RE: [ActiveDir] Roaming Profiles and DFS
All I can add is putting our roaming profiles on DFS was a nightmare and I have gone back to not having it on DFS. I now use %variables% instead. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of EdwinSent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 7:04 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ActiveDir] Roaming Profiles and DFS Last week I sent the below question to this thread. I apologize for having to resend it but my mail server experience problems and I am not sure if there were any replies to my question. If there were any posts to my question, would someone please resubmit it to the list so that I can read it? Below is what I previously wrote. Thank you. Edwin Currently I am working in a test environment with 2 Win2K3 DCs and 1 Win2K3 member server (all standard Edition). The member server is intended to be a File server where a users roaming profiles are stored. On our production environment has this same exact setup. The reason why I want to use DFS is because the user profiles are stored on a single IDE drive. The company did not want to spend more money on RAID. Before you ask, Yes, the OS is RAIDed. It is just the IDE drive I am immediately concerned about. In the test environment I setup DFS and all appears to be good. Now I create a user and setup the profile to point to the path \\ad.testdomain.com\sharedfiles$\%username% where \\ad.testdomain.com\sharedfiles$\ is the DFS root that I established. When I attempt to login, I am presented with an error message stating that the default profile will be used and any changes made to the profile will be lost because permission is denied. My question is if this is the way that DFS is intended to be? From what I gather, I am only able to write to the DFS root of the file server if I call the machine that directly i.e. \\testserver\sharedfiles$ and have replication take over from there. Shouldnt I be able to write to the DFS root directly? Thank you all for your responses. Edwin ~~This e-mail is confidential, may contain proprietary informationof the Cooper Cameron Corporation and its operating Divisionsand may be confidential or privileged.This e-mail should be read, copied, disseminated and/or used onlyby the addressee. If you have received this message in error pleasedelete it, together with any attachments, from your system.~~
RE: [ActiveDir] Roaming Profiles and DFS
Edwin, It is not recommended to store user profiles on DFS volumes. The reason is because there could be a replication issue that could corrupt the volume. Here are two good articles that cover profiles. The last one has a best practice guide. http://www.lsa.umich.edu/lsait/TrainingDoc/Documents/Win2k/User_Profiles.doc http://www.winnetmag.com/Windows/Articles/ArticleID/39193/pg/1/1.html Todd Myrick From: Edwin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 8:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ActiveDir] Roaming Profiles and DFS Last week I sent the below question to this thread. I apologize for having to resend it but my mail server experience problems and I am not sure if there were any replies to my question. If there were any posts to my question, would someone please resubmit it to the list so that I can read it? Below is what I previously wrote. Thank you. Edwin Currently I am working in a test environment with 2 Win2K3 DCs and 1 Win2K3 member server (all standard Edition). The member server is intended to be a File server where a users roaming profiles are stored. On our production environment has this same exact setup. The reason why I want to use DFS is because the user profiles are stored on a single IDE drive. The company did not want to spend more money on RAID. Before you ask, Yes, the OS is RAIDed. It is just the IDE drive I am immediately concerned about. In the test environment I setup DFS and all appears to be good. Now I create a user and setup the profile to point to the path \\ad.testdomain.com\sharedfiles$\%username% where \\ad.testdomain.com\sharedfiles$\ is the DFS root that I established. When I attempt to login, I am presented with an error message stating that the default profile will be used and any changes made to the profile will be lost because permission is denied. My question is if this is the way that DFS is intended to be? From what I gather, I am only able to write to the DFS root of the file server if I call the machine that directly i.e. \\testserver\sharedfiles$ and have replication take over from there. Shouldnt I be able to write to the DFS root directly? Thank you all for your responses. Edwin
RE: [ActiveDir] Roaming Profiles and DFS
Hi, See also http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/techinfo/overview/dfsfaq.mspx Here they also adviseagainst using roaming profiles with DFS. It is also not supported Regards, Jorge From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rimmerman, RussSent: woensdag 24 november 2004 14:32To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Roaming Profiles and DFS All I can add is putting our roaming profiles on DFS was a nightmare and I have gone back to not having it on DFS. I now use %variables% instead. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of EdwinSent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 7:04 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ActiveDir] Roaming Profiles and DFS Last week I sent the below question to this thread. I apologize for having to resend it but my mail server experience problems and I am not sure if there were any replies to my question. If there were any posts to my question, would someone please resubmit it to the list so that I can read it? Below is what I previously wrote. Thank you. Edwin Currently I am working in a test environment with 2 Win2K3 DCs and 1 Win2K3 member server (all standard Edition). The member server is intended to be a File server where a users roaming profiles are stored. On our production environment has this same exact setup. The reason why I want to use DFS is because the user profiles are stored on a single IDE drive. The company did not want to spend more money on RAID. Before you ask, Yes, the OS is RAIDed. It is just the IDE drive I am immediately concerned about. In the test environment I setup DFS and all appears to be good. Now I create a user and setup the profile to point to the path \\ad.testdomain.com\sharedfiles$\%username% where \\ad.testdomain.com\sharedfiles$\ is the DFS root that I established. When I attempt to login, I am presented with an error message stating that the default profile will be used and any changes made to the profile will be lost because permission is denied. My question is if this is the way that DFS is intended to be? From what I gather, I am only able to write to the DFS root of the file server if I call the machine that directly i.e. \\testserver\sharedfiles$ and have replication take over from there. Shouldnt I be able to write to the DFS root directly? Thank you all for your responses. Edwin ~~This e-mail is confidential, may contain proprietary informationof the Cooper Cameron Corporation and its operating Divisionsand may be confidential or privileged.This e-mail should be read, copied, disseminated and/or used onlyby the addressee. If you have received this message in error pleasedelete it, together with any attachments, from your system.~~ This e-mail and any attachment is for authorised use by the intended recipient(s) only. It may contain proprietary material, confidential information and/or be subject to legal privilege. It should not be copied, disclosed to, retained or used by, any other party. If you are not an intended recipient then please promptly delete this e-mail and any attachment and all copies and inform the sender. Thank you.
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RE: [ActiveDir] Roaming Profiles and DFS
Than you guys for your quick responses. This list rocks! I have noticed problems with DFS and roaming profiles on the test domain that I have but I wasnt sure if it was because of my lack of knowledge. As of now, I am beginning to use RoboCopy to where I will have the job run every 3 hours or maybe 6 hours. On the test domain, it looks good so far and I am about to begin using it on the production domain if I do not hear any objects. I was possibly thinking of having it run as part of a log off script. Would there be any objections to using RoboCopy? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jorge de Almeida Pinto Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 8:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Roaming Profiles and DFS Hi, See also http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/techinfo/overview/dfsfaq.mspx Here they also adviseagainst using roaming profiles with DFS. It is also not supported Regards, Jorge From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rimmerman, Russ Sent: woensdag 24 november 2004 14:32 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Roaming Profiles and DFS All I can add is putting our roaming profiles on DFS was a nightmare and I have gone back to not having it on DFS. I now use %variables% instead. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edwin Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 7:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ActiveDir] Roaming Profiles and DFS Last week I sent the below question to this thread. I apologize for having to resend it but my mail server experience problems and I am not sure if there were any replies to my question. If there were any posts to my question, would someone please resubmit it to the list so that I can read it? Below is what I previously wrote. Thank you. Edwin Currently I am working in a test environment with 2 Win2K3 DCs and 1 Win2K3 member server (all standard Edition). The member server is intended to be a File server where a users roaming profiles are stored. On our production environment has this same exact setup. The reason why I want to use DFS is because the user profiles are stored on a single IDE drive. The company did not want to spend more money on RAID. Before you ask, Yes, the OS is RAIDed. It is just the IDE drive I am immediately concerned about. In the test environment I setup DFS and all appears to be good. Now I create a user and setup the profile to point to the path \\ad.testdomain.com\sharedfiles$\%username% where \\ad.testdomain.com\sharedfiles$\ is the DFS root that I established. When I attempt to login, I am presented with an error message stating that the default profile will be used and any changes made to the profile will be lost because permission is denied. My question is if this is the way that DFS is intended to be? From what I gather, I am only able to write to the DFS root of the file server if I call the machine that directly i.e. \\testserver\sharedfiles$ and have replication take over from there. Shouldnt I be able to write to the DFS root directly? Thank you all for your responses. Edwin ~~ This e-mail is confidential, may contain proprietary information of the Cooper Cameron Corporation and its operating Divisions and may be confidential or privileged. This e-mail should be read, copied, disseminated and/or used only by the addressee. If you have received this message in error please delete it, together with any attachments, from your system. ~~ This e-mail and any attachment is for authorised use by the intended recipient(s) only. It may contain proprietary material, confidential information and/or be subject to legal privilege. It should not be copied, disclosed to, retained or used by, any other party. If you are not an intended recipient then please promptly delete this e-mail and any attachment and all copies and inform the sender. Thank you.
RE: [ActiveDir] Roaming Profiles and DFS
You want to use Robocopy to copy the profiles to a DFS Share, or between the two DC and the file server? Todd From: Edwin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 8:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Roaming Profiles and DFS Than you guys for your quick responses. This list rocks! I have noticed problems with DFS and roaming profiles on the test domain that I have but I wasnt sure if it was because of my lack of knowledge. As of now, I am beginning to use RoboCopy to where I will have the job run every 3 hours or maybe 6 hours. On the test domain, it looks good so far and I am about to begin using it on the production domain if I do not hear any objects. I was possibly thinking of having it run as part of a log off script. Would there be any objections to using RoboCopy? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jorge de Almeida Pinto Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 8:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Roaming Profiles and DFS Hi, See also http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/techinfo/overview/dfsfaq.mspx Here they also adviseagainst using roaming profiles with DFS. It is also not supported Regards, Jorge From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rimmerman, Russ Sent: woensdag 24 november 2004 14:32 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Roaming Profiles and DFS All I can add is putting our roaming profiles on DFS was a nightmare and I have gone back to not having it on DFS. I now use %variables% instead. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edwin Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 7:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ActiveDir] Roaming Profiles and DFS Last week I sent the below question to this thread. I apologize for having to resend it but my mail server experience problems and I am not sure if there were any replies to my question. If there were any posts to my question, would someone please resubmit it to the list so that I can read it? Below is what I previously wrote. Thank you. Edwin Currently I am working in a test environment with 2 Win2K3 DCs and 1 Win2K3 member server (all standard Edition). The member server is intended to be a File server where a users roaming profiles are stored. On our production environment has this same exact setup. The reason why I want to use DFS is because the user profiles are stored on a single IDE drive. The company did not want to spend more money on RAID. Before you ask, Yes, the OS is RAIDed. It is just the IDE drive I am immediately concerned about. In the test environment I setup DFS and all appears to be good. Now I create a user and setup the profile to point to the path \\ad.testdomain.com\sharedfiles$\%username% where \\ad.testdomain.com\sharedfiles$\ is the DFS root that I established. When I attempt to login, I am presented with an error message stating that the default profile will be used and any changes made to the profile will be lost because permission is denied. My question is if this is the way that DFS is intended to be? From what I gather, I am only able to write to the DFS root of the file server if I call the machine that directly i.e. \\testserver\sharedfiles$ and have replication take over from there. Shouldnt I be able to write to the DFS root directly? Thank you all for your responses. Edwin ~~ This e-mail is confidential, may contain proprietary information of the Cooper Cameron Corporation and its operating Divisions and may be confidential or privileged. This e-mail should be read, copied, disseminated and/or used only by the addressee. If you have received this message in error please delete it, together with any attachments, from your system. ~~ This e-mail and any attachment is for authorised use by the intended recipient(s) only. It may contain proprietary material, confidential information and/or be subject to legal privilege. It should not be copied, disclosed to, retained or used by, any other party. If you are not an intended recipient then please promptly delete this e-mail and any attachment and all copies and inform the sender. Thank you.
RE: [ActiveDir] Roaming Profiles and DFS
Robocopy is excellent, I've used it in many circumstances. The only problem you might find with running it from a logoff script is the extra time it will take the PC to shut down or log off. I'd run it regularly on the server, making sure you're only mirroring newer documents. Greg ---This e-mail message may contain privileged, confidential and/or proprietary information intended only for the person(s) named. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy this message, and any attachments, and notify the sender by return e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient(s), or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, disclosure or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited.--- From: Edwin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 8:57 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Roaming Profiles and DFS Than you guys for your quick responses. This list rocks! I have noticed problems with DFS and roaming profiles on the test domain that I have but I wasn't sure if it was because of my lack of knowledge. As of now, I am beginning to use RoboCopy to where I will have the job run every 3 hours or maybe 6 hours. On the test domain, it looks good so far and I am about to begin using it on the production domain if I do not hear any objects. I was possibly thinking of having it run as part of a log off script. Would there be any objections to using RoboCopy? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jorge de Almeida PintoSent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 8:43 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Roaming Profiles and DFS Hi, See also http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/techinfo/overview/dfsfaq.mspx Here they also adviseagainst using roaming profiles with DFS. It is also not supported Regards, Jorge From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rimmerman, RussSent: woensdag 24 november 2004 14:32To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Roaming Profiles and DFS All I can add is putting our roaming profiles on DFS was a nightmare and I have gone back to not having it on DFS. I now use %variables% instead. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of EdwinSent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 7:04 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ActiveDir] Roaming Profiles and DFS Last week I sent the below question to this thread. I apologize for having to resend it but my mail server experience problems and I am not sure if there were any replies to my question. If there were any posts to my question, would someone please resubmit it to the list so that I can read it? Below is what I previously wrote. Thank you. Edwin Currently I am working in a test environment with 2 Win2K3 DC's and 1 Win2K3 member server (all standard Edition). The member server is intended to be a File server where a users roaming profiles are stored. On our production environment has this same exact setup. The reason why I want to use DFS is because the user profiles are stored on a single IDE drive. The company did not want to spend more money on RAID. Before you ask, "Yes, the OS is RAID'ed. It is just the IDE drive I am immediately concerned about. In the test environment I setup DFS and all appears to be good. Now I create a user and setup the profile to point to the path \\ad.testdomain.com\sharedfiles$\%username% where \\ad.testdomain.com\sharedfiles$\ is the DFS root that I established. When I attempt to login, I am presented with an error message stating that the default profile will be used and any changes made to the profile will be lost because permission is denied. My question is if this is the way that DFS is intended to be? From what I gather, I am only able to write to the DFS root of the file server if I call the machine that directly i.e. \\testserver\sharedfiles$ and have replication take over from there. Shouldn't I be able to write to the DFS root directly? Thank you all for your responses. Edwin ~~This e-mail is confidential, may contain proprietary informationof the Cooper Cameron Corporation and its operating Divisionsand may be confidential or privileged.This e-mail should be read, copied, disseminated and/or used onlyby the addressee. If you have rec
RE: [ActiveDir] Roaming Profiles and DFS
Todd, I want to have Robocopy copy the files from the single IDE drive found on the file server to the single IDE drive found on each of the domain controllers. Lara, I have never really had a use of Robocopy until now. I tested it and it worked great! The fact that it copies over ACLs is great! I have a scheduled job set to run every 3 hours on both of the DCs to connect to a UNC path with is where the file server is. Now if in the even that the file server goes down where the users roaming profiles are stored, I can just highlight a bunch of users and update their paths all at once to the new location. I wasnt aware of DFS and user profile problems except for the problems that I was having with them. I think using Robocopy is my best solution so far. Thank you everyone for your replies. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lara, Greg Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 9:58 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Roaming Profiles and DFS Robocopy is excellent, I've used it in many circumstances. The only problem you might find with running it from a logoff script is the extra time it will take the PC to shut down or log off. I'd run it regularly on the server, making sure you're only mirroring newer documents. Greg --- This e-mail message may contain privileged, confidential and/or proprietary information intended only for the person(s) named. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy this message, and any attachments, and notify the sender by return e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient(s), or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, disclosure or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. --- From: Edwin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 8:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Roaming Profiles and DFS Than you guys for your quick responses. This list rocks! I have noticed problems with DFS and roaming profiles on the test domain that I have but I wasn't sure if it was because of my lack of knowledge. As of now, I am beginning to use RoboCopy to where I will have the job run every 3 hours or maybe 6 hours. On the test domain, it looks good so far and I am about to begin using it on the production domain if I do not hear any objects. I was possibly thinking of having it run as part of a log off script. Would there be any objections to using RoboCopy? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jorge de Almeida Pinto Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 8:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Roaming Profiles and DFS Hi, See also http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/techinfo/overview/dfsfaq.mspx Here they also adviseagainst using roaming profiles with DFS. It is also not supported Regards, Jorge From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rimmerman, Russ Sent: woensdag 24 november 2004 14:32 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Roaming Profiles and DFS All I can add is putting our roaming profiles on DFS was a nightmare and I have gone back to not having it on DFS. I now use %variables% instead. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edwin Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 7:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ActiveDir] Roaming Profiles and DFS Last week I sent the below question to this thread. I apologize for having to resend it but my mail server experience problems and I am not sure if there were any replies to my question. If there were any posts to my question, would someone please resubmit it to the list so that I can read it? Below is what I previously wrote. Thank you. Edwin Currently I am working in a test environment with 2 Win2K3 DC's and 1 Win2K3 member server (all standard Edition). The member server is intended to be a File server where a users roaming profiles are stored. On our production environment has this same exact setup. The reason why I want to use DFS is because the user profiles are stored on a single IDE drive. The company did not want to spend more money on RAID. Before you ask, Yes, the OS is RAID'ed. It is just the IDE drive I am immediately concerned about. In the test environment I setup DFS and all appears to be good. Now I create a user and setup the profile to point to the path \\ad.testdomain.com\sharedfiles$\%username% where \\ad.testdomain.com\sharedfiles$\ is the DFS root that I established. When I attempt to login, I am presented with an error message stating that the default profile will be used and any changes made to the profile
