Re: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT)
I don't understand the question. This utility should be able to delete a file / directory which has special name in it, eg: "prn", or contains invisible hex characters. On 5/7/06, Jose Medeiros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Irwin, Does this utilty do a block level based replication or is it only file level? Jose - Original Message - From: "Irwan Hadi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) You can try to run dir /x and see the short name of that directory, or you can also try to use this product Delete FXP Files from http://www.jrtwine.com/Products/DelFXPFiles/index.htm On 4/30/06, Tom Kern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, I've rebooted the server,ran a chkdsk, and still the dir will not > disappear. > > I've run Process Explorer and Filemon and nothing is acessing this dir. > > Yet I can delete it and its missing the security tab(its on an ntfs vol). > > How the heck can I get rid of this dir? > > Has anyone had an issue like this? > > Thanks again > > > > 4/6/06, Bruyere, Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > I got something similar but with a PDF file. The solution > > was > to reboot the server… > > > > > > > > > > > > ________ > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Tom Kern > > Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 9:18 AM > > > > To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > > > > Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No one has this folder open. > > > > > > I've run Process Explorer and Filemon and nothing is accessing this > folder. > > > > > > > > > > > > I can't delete it or share it out and its missing the security tab. > > > > > > > > > > > > anything else I should look for? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > On 4/5/06, Mark Parris < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I have seen this if another PC has explorer open on that folder and you > try and delete from another. > > > > Mark > > -Original Message- > > From: "Steve Rochford" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 16:37:03 > > To:< ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org> > > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) > > > > This seems to happen when the folder is in the process of being deleted > but hasn't quite gone. Sometimes, just waiting a while will clear the > problem - I suspect that a process is holding open the folder (or, > possibly, > a file in the folder). More than once I've hit this and gone to use > Sysinternals process explorer to find out which process is guilty. By the > time I've run up the program and searched for the folder name there's > nothing there. going back to the folder finds that it's either gone or can > now be deleted. > > > > In your case, I'd guess that robocopy had started creating folders and > when it got interrupted, something took a while for things to get tidied > up > - if the helpdesk guy hasn't yet unmapped the drives he was using then I > think that this might help. > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Tom Kern > > Sent: 05 April 2006 15:45 > > To: activedirectory > > Subject: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) > > > > > > > > I have a strange issue. > > I had a help desk admin robocopy a dir from one server to another. > > During the copy, for whatever reason, he canceled the robocopy job. > > When he went to the target server a empty dir was created which now > > cannot > be deleted. > > I can't delete it through explorer or the command console at the server > and get an error of "cannot delete file:cannot read from the source file > or > disk". > > > > If i do a RD /s, i get "The system cannot find the file specified." > > > > However the dir shows up in a dir listing or explorer. > > The weird thing is also, the dir has no "security" tab(and its on an > > ntfs > file system). > > > > Some backround on the robocopy job- > > the admin mapped 2 drives from his local box(win2k). > > One drive to the root of the volume on the source server and another to > the root on the target. > > he then CD'ed to the source and ran robocopy with the "/E" and "/V" > switches. > > after sometime, he killed the job and now I'm stuck with this > > undeletable > DIR. > > > > Any insight would be great. > > thanks > > > > > > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT)
File level only. Steve Evans -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jose Medeiros Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 10:33 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) Hi Irwin, Does this utilty do a block level based replication or is it only file level? Jose - Original Message - From: "Irwan Hadi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) You can try to run dir /x and see the short name of that directory, or you can also try to use this product Delete FXP Files from http://www.jrtwine.com/Products/DelFXPFiles/index.htm On 4/30/06, Tom Kern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, I've rebooted the server,ran a chkdsk, and still the dir will not > disappear. > > I've run Process Explorer and Filemon and nothing is acessing this dir. > > Yet I can delete it and its missing the security tab(its on an ntfs vol). > > How the heck can I get rid of this dir? > > Has anyone had an issue like this? > > Thanks again > > > > 4/6/06, Bruyere, Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > I got something similar but with a PDF file. The solution > > was > to reboot the server. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Tom Kern > > Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 9:18 AM > > > > To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > > > > Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No one has this folder open. > > > > > > I've run Process Explorer and Filemon and nothing is accessing this > folder. > > > > > > > > > > > > I can't delete it or share it out and its missing the security tab. > > > > > > > > > > > > anything else I should look for? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > On 4/5/06, Mark Parris < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I have seen this if another PC has explorer open on that folder and you > try and delete from another. > > > > Mark > > -Original Message- > > From: "Steve Rochford" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 16:37:03 > > To:< ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org> > > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) > > > > This seems to happen when the folder is in the process of being deleted > but hasn't quite gone. Sometimes, just waiting a while will clear the > problem - I suspect that a process is holding open the folder (or, > possibly, > a file in the folder). More than once I've hit this and gone to use > Sysinternals process explorer to find out which process is guilty. By the > time I've run up the program and searched for the folder name there's > nothing there. going back to the folder finds that it's either gone or can > now be deleted. > > > > In your case, I'd guess that robocopy had started creating folders and > when it got interrupted, something took a while for things to get tidied > up > - if the helpdesk guy hasn't yet unmapped the drives he was using then I > think that this might help. > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Tom Kern > > Sent: 05 April 2006 15:45 > > To: activedirectory > > Subject: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) > > > > > > > > I have a strange issue. > > I had a help desk admin robocopy a dir from one server to another. > > During the copy, for whatever reason, he canceled the robocopy job. > > When he went to the target server a empty dir was created which now > > cannot > be deleted. > > I can't delete it through explorer or the command console at the server > and get an error of "cannot delete file:cannot read from the source file > or > disk". > > > > If i do a RD /s, i get "The system cannot find the file specified." > > > > However the dir shows up in a dir listing or explorer. > > The weird thing is also, the dir has no "security" tab(and its on an > > ntfs > file system). > > > > Some backround on the robocopy job- > > the admin mapped 2 drives from his local box(win2k). > > One drive to the root of the volume on the source server and another to > the root on the target. > > he then CD'ed to the source and ran robocopy with the "/E" and "/V" > switches. > > after sometime, he killed the job and now I'm stuck with this > > undeletable > DIR. > > > > Any insight would be great. > > thanks > > > > > > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
Re: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT)
Hi Irwin, Does this utilty do a block level based replication or is it only file level? Jose - Original Message - From: "Irwan Hadi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) You can try to run dir /x and see the short name of that directory, or you can also try to use this product Delete FXP Files from http://www.jrtwine.com/Products/DelFXPFiles/index.htm On 4/30/06, Tom Kern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well, I've rebooted the server,ran a chkdsk, and still the dir will not disappear. I've run Process Explorer and Filemon and nothing is acessing this dir. Yet I can delete it and its missing the security tab(its on an ntfs vol). How the heck can I get rid of this dir? Has anyone had an issue like this? Thanks again 4/6/06, Bruyere, Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > I got something similar but with a PDF file. The solution > was to reboot the server… > > > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Kern > Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 9:18 AM > > To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > > Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) > > > > > > > > No one has this folder open. > > > I've run Process Explorer and Filemon and nothing is accessing this folder. > > > > > > I can't delete it or share it out and its missing the security tab. > > > > > > anything else I should look for? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > On 4/5/06, Mark Parris < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have seen this if another PC has explorer open on that folder and you try and delete from another. > > Mark > -Original Message- > From: "Steve Rochford" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 16:37:03 > To:< ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org> > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) > > This seems to happen when the folder is in the process of being deleted but hasn't quite gone. Sometimes, just waiting a while will clear the problem - I suspect that a process is holding open the folder (or, possibly, a file in the folder). More than once I've hit this and gone to use Sysinternals process explorer to find out which process is guilty. By the time I've run up the program and searched for the folder name there's nothing there. going back to the folder finds that it's either gone or can now be deleted. > > In your case, I'd guess that robocopy had started creating folders and when it got interrupted, something took a while for things to get tidied up - if the helpdesk guy hasn't yet unmapped the drives he was using then I think that this might help. > > Steve > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Tom Kern > Sent: 05 April 2006 15:45 > To: activedirectory > Subject: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) > > > > I have a strange issue. > I had a help desk admin robocopy a dir from one server to another. > During the copy, for whatever reason, he canceled the robocopy job. > When he went to the target server a empty dir was created which now > cannot be deleted. > I can't delete it through explorer or the command console at the server and get an error of "cannot delete file:cannot read from the source file or disk". > > If i do a RD /s, i get "The system cannot find the file specified." > > However the dir shows up in a dir listing or explorer. > The weird thing is also, the dir has no "security" tab(and its on an > ntfs file system). > > Some backround on the robocopy job- > the admin mapped 2 drives from his local box(win2k). > One drive to the root of the volume on the source server and another to the root on the target. > he then CD'ed to the source and ran robocopy with the "/E" and "/V" switches. > after sometime, he killed the job and now I'm stuck with this > undeletable DIR. > > Any insight would be great. > thanks > > > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
Re: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT)
You can try to run dir /x and see the short name of that directory, or you can also try to use this product Delete FXP Files from http://www.jrtwine.com/Products/DelFXPFiles/index.htm On 4/30/06, Tom Kern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well, I've rebooted the server,ran a chkdsk, and still the dir will not disappear. I've run Process Explorer and Filemon and nothing is acessing this dir. Yet I can delete it and its missing the security tab(its on an ntfs vol). How the heck can I get rid of this dir? Has anyone had an issue like this? Thanks again 4/6/06, Bruyere, Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > I got something similar but with a PDF file. The solution was to reboot the server… > > > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Kern > Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 9:18 AM > > To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > > Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) > > > > > > > > No one has this folder open. > > > I've run Process Explorer and Filemon and nothing is accessing this folder. > > > > > > I can't delete it or share it out and its missing the security tab. > > > > > > anything else I should look for? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > On 4/5/06, Mark Parris < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have seen this if another PC has explorer open on that folder and you try and delete from another. > > Mark > -Original Message- > From: "Steve Rochford" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 16:37:03 > To:< ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org> > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) > > This seems to happen when the folder is in the process of being deleted but hasn't quite gone. Sometimes, just waiting a while will clear the problem - I suspect that a process is holding open the folder (or, possibly, a file in the folder). More than once I've hit this and gone to use Sysinternals process explorer to find out which process is guilty. By the time I've run up the program and searched for the folder name there's nothing there. going back to the folder finds that it's either gone or can now be deleted. > > In your case, I'd guess that robocopy had started creating folders and when it got interrupted, something took a while for things to get tidied up - if the helpdesk guy hasn't yet unmapped the drives he was using then I think that this might help. > > Steve > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Tom Kern > Sent: 05 April 2006 15:45 > To: activedirectory > Subject: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) > > > > I have a strange issue. > I had a help desk admin robocopy a dir from one server to another. > During the copy, for whatever reason, he canceled the robocopy job. > When he went to the target server a empty dir was created which now cannot be deleted. > I can't delete it through explorer or the command console at the server and get an error of "cannot delete file:cannot read from the source file or disk". > > If i do a RD /s, i get "The system cannot find the file specified." > > However the dir shows up in a dir listing or explorer. > The weird thing is also, the dir has no "security" tab(and its on an ntfs file system). > > Some backround on the robocopy job- > the admin mapped 2 drives from his local box(win2k). > One drive to the root of the volume on the source server and another to the root on the target. > he then CD'ed to the source and ran robocopy with the "/E" and "/V" switches. > after sometime, he killed the job and now I'm stuck with this undeletable DIR. > > Any insight would be great. > thanks > > > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT)
Thanks for the reply. I've tried exactly this approach. Works great for files. Not so well for folders. Executing move source-folder destination-folder yields "The system cannot find the file specified". Thomas From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ross StingleySent: Friday, May 05, 2006 11:15 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Re: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) Back in the days of DOS, you could delete a file that had invalid characters or spaces in the file name by first renaming the file substituting a "?" for the invalid characters or spaces to a valid file name, you could then delete the file. HTH - Original Message - From: Thomas O'Brien To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 9:57 AM Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) Is there a trailing space at the end of the folder name?I got bit by this one and didn't really understand why at first because the trailing space was almost unnoticeable. To date I have not been able to remove the folder.I found a number of tools that address deleting files with trailing spaces, but not a lot of help for folders.If anyone solves this, I'd sure like to know how. Mostly, it's a tidiness issue for me. Thomas From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rocky HabeebSent: Friday, May 05, 2006 9:11 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) Tough to do if it's at the root. I would try this, have the originating user log on to the originating machine that originally mapped the two drives and disconnect the target's mapped drive, if not already done, then reboot it. Have him log back on, map the target again using the same drive letter and same security credential and have him see if the folder in question shows up. If so, have him try whacking it. RH _ -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Tyson LeslieSent: Friday, May 05, 2006 11:58 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) I've seen this in NT4, but not recently. In our case, the fix was to share out a parent folder, and delete the offending sub-folder from another machine via the share. Tyson. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom KernSent: Friday, May 05, 2006 9:24 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Re: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) Subinacl,Xacls(which I stated I used already, Brian),and Setowner all give the same error- "The system cannot find the file specified". Chkdsk with a reboot didn't help at all. Thanks On 5/5/06, Brian Desmond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Cacls Xcacls Subinacl Format –q c: rm –rf / a consultant google set ownership tools perhaps too Thanks,Brian Desmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] c - 312.731.3132 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tom KernSent: Friday, May 05, 2006 9:14 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) How can I take ownership of it? It doesn't have a security tab and xcacls doesn't "see" the folder.. Thanks On 5/4/06, joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Wonder if you have a dorked up ACL, what happens if you try to take ownership of it? O'Reilly Active Directory Third Edition - http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tom Kern Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 8:58 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) Well, I've rebooted the server,ran a chkdsk, and still the dir will not disappear. I've run Process Explorer and Filemon and nothing is acessing this dir. Yet I can delete it and its missing the security tab(its on an ntfs vol). How the heck cn I get rid of this dir? Has anyone had an issue like this? Thanks again 4/6/06, Bruyere, Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: Hi, I got something similar but with a PDF file. The solution was to reboot the server…
Re: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT)
Back in the days of DOS, you could delete a file that had invalid characters or spaces in the file name by first renaming the file substituting a "?" for the invalid characters or spaces to a valid file name, you could then delete the file. HTH - Original Message - From: Thomas O'Brien To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 9:57 AM Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) Is there a trailing space at the end of the folder name?I got bit by this one and didn't really understand why at first because the trailing space was almost unnoticeable. To date I have not been able to remove the folder.I found a number of tools that address deleting files with trailing spaces, but not a lot of help for folders.If anyone solves this, I'd sure like to know how. Mostly, it's a tidiness issue for me. Thomas From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rocky HabeebSent: Friday, May 05, 2006 9:11 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) Tough to do if it's at the root. I would try this, have the originating user log on to the originating machine that originally mapped the two drives and disconnect the target's mapped drive, if not already done, then reboot it. Have him log back on, map the target again using the same drive letter and same security credential and have him see if the folder in question shows up. If so, have him try whacking it. RH _ -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Tyson LeslieSent: Friday, May 05, 2006 11:58 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) I've seen this in NT4, but not recently. In our case, the fix was to share out a parent folder, and delete the offending sub-folder from another machine via the share. Tyson. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom KernSent: Friday, May 05, 2006 9:24 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Re: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) Subinacl,Xacls(which I stated I used already, Brian),and Setowner all give the same error- "The system cannot find the file specified". Chkdsk with a reboot didn't help at all. Thanks On 5/5/06, Brian Desmond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Cacls Xcacls Subinacl Format q c: rm rf / a consultant google set ownership tools perhaps too Thanks,Brian Desmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] c - 312.731.3132 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tom KernSent: Friday, May 05, 2006 9:14 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) How can I take ownership of it? It doesn't have a security tab and xcacls doesn't "see" the folder.. Thanks On 5/4/06, joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Wonder if you have a dorked up ACL, what happens if you try to take ownership of it? O'Reilly Active Directory Third Edition - http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tom Kern Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 8:58 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) Well, I've rebooted the server,ran a chkdsk, and still the dir will not disappear. I've run Process Explorer and Filemon and nothing is acessing this dir. Yet I can delete it and its missing the security tab(its on an ntfs vol). How the heck cn I get rid of this dir? Has anyone had an issue like this? Thanks again 4/6/06, Bruyere, Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: Hi, I got something similar but with a PDF file. The solution was to reboot the server From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tom KernSent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 9:18 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) No one has this folder open. I've run Process Explorer and Filemon and nothing is accessing this folder.
RE: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT)
Is there a trailing space at the end of the folder name?I got bit by this one and didn't really understand why at first because the trailing space was almost unnoticeable. To date I have not been able to remove the folder.I found a number of tools that address deleting files with trailing spaces, but not a lot of help for folders.If anyone solves this, I'd sure like to know how. Mostly, it's a tidiness issue for me. Thomas From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rocky HabeebSent: Friday, May 05, 2006 9:11 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) Tough to do if it's at the root. I would try this, have the originating user log on to the originating machine that originally mapped the two drives and disconnect the target's mapped drive, if not already done, then reboot it. Have him log back on, map the target again using the same drive letter and same security credential and have him see if the folder in question shows up. If so, have him try whacking it. RH _ -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Tyson LeslieSent: Friday, May 05, 2006 11:58 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) I've seen this in NT4, but not recently. In our case, the fix was to share out a parent folder, and delete the offending sub-folder from another machine via the share. Tyson. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom KernSent: Friday, May 05, 2006 9:24 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Re: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) Subinacl,Xacls(which I stated I used already, Brian),and Setowner all give the same error- "The system cannot find the file specified". Chkdsk with a reboot didn't help at all. Thanks On 5/5/06, Brian Desmond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Cacls Xcacls Subinacl Format –q c: rm –rf / a consultant google set ownership tools perhaps too Thanks,Brian Desmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] c - 312.731.3132 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tom KernSent: Friday, May 05, 2006 9:14 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) How can I take ownership of it? It doesn't have a security tab and xcacls doesn't "see" the folder.. Thanks On 5/4/06, joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Wonder if you have a dorked up ACL, what happens if you try to take ownership of it? O'Reilly Active Directory Third Edition - http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tom Kern Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 8:58 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) Well, I've rebooted the server,ran a chkdsk, and still the dir will not disappear. I've run Process Explorer and Filemon and nothing is acessing this dir. Yet I can delete it and its missing the security tab(its on an ntfs vol). How the heck cn I get rid of this dir? Has anyone had an issue like this? Thanks again 4/6/06, Bruyere, Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: Hi, I got something similar but with a PDF file. The solution was to reboot the server… From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tom KernSent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 9:18 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) No one has this folder open. I've run Process Explorer and Filemon and nothing is accessing this folder. I can't delete i or share it out and its missing the security tab. anything else I should look for? Thanks On 4/5/06, Mark Parris < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have seen this if another PC has explorer open on that folder and you try and delete from another.Mark-Original Message-From: "Steve Rochford" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 16:37:03To:< ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org >Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT)This seems to happen when the folder is in the process of being deleted but hasn't quite gone. Sometimes, just waiting a while will clear the problem - I suspect that a process is holding open the folder (or, possibly, a file in the folder). More
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Tough to do if it's at the root. I would try this, have the originating user log on to the originating machine that originally mapped the two drives and disconnect the target's mapped drive, if not already done, then reboot it. Have him log back on, map the target again using the same drive letter and same security credential and have him see if the folder in question shows up. If so, have him try whacking it. RH _ -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Tyson LeslieSent: Friday, May 05, 2006 11:58 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) I've seen this in NT4, but not recently. In our case, the fix was to share out a parent folder, and delete the offending sub-folder from another machine via the share. Tyson. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom KernSent: Friday, May 05, 2006 9:24 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Re: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) Subinacl,Xacls(which I stated I used already, Brian),and Setowner all give the same error- "The system cannot find the file specified". Chkdsk with a reboot didn't help at all. Thanks On 5/5/06, Brian Desmond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Cacls Xcacls Subinacl Format –q c: rm –rf / a consultant google set ownership tools perhaps too Thanks,Brian Desmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] c - 312.731.3132 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tom KernSent: Friday, May 05, 2006 9:14 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) How can I take ownership of it? It doesn't have a security tab and xcacls doesn't "see" the folder.. Thanks On 5/4/06, joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Wonder if you have a dorked up ACL, what happens if you try to take ownership of it? O'Reilly Active Directory Third Edition - http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tom Kern Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 8:58 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) Well, I've rebooted the server,ran a chkdsk, and still the dir will not disappear. I've run Process Explorer and Filemon and nothing is acessing this dir. Yet I can delete it and its missing the security tab(its on an ntfs vol). How the heck cn I get rid of this dir? Has anyone had an issue like this? Thanks again 4/6/06, Bruyere, Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: Hi, I got something similar but with a PDF file. The solution was to reboot the server… From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tom KernSent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 9:18 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) No one has this folder open. I've run Process Explorer and Filemon and nothing is accessing this folder. I can't delete i or share it out and its missing the security tab. anything else I should look for? Thanks On 4/5/06, Mark Parris < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have seen this if another PC has explorer open on that folder and you try and delete from another.Mark-Original Message-From: "Steve Rochford" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 16:37:03To:< ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org >Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT)This seems to happen when the folder is in the process of being deleted but hasn't quite gone. Sometimes, just waiting a while will clear the problem - I suspect that a process is holding open the folder (or, possibly, a file in the folder). More than once I've hit this and gone to use Sysinternals process explorer to find out which process is guilty. By the time I've run up the program and searched for the folder name there's nothing there. going back to the folder finds that it's either gone or can now be deleted. In your case, I'd guess that robocopy had started creating folders and when it got interrupted, something took a while for things to get tidied up - if the helpdesk guy hasn't yet unmapped the drives he was using then I think that this might help. SteveFrom: [EMAIL P
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I've seen this in NT4, but not recently. In our case, the fix was to share out a parent folder, and delete the offending sub-folder from another machine via the share. Tyson. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom KernSent: Friday, May 05, 2006 9:24 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Re: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) Subinacl,Xacls(which I stated I used already, Brian),and Setowner all give the same error- "The system cannot find the file specified". Chkdsk with a reboot didn't help at all. Thanks On 5/5/06, Brian Desmond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Cacls Xcacls Subinacl Format –q c: rm –rf / a consultant google set ownership tools perhaps too Thanks,Brian Desmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] c - 312.731.3132 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tom KernSent: Friday, May 05, 2006 9:14 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) How can I take ownership of it? It doesn't have a security tab and xcacls doesn't "see" the folder.. Thanks On 5/4/06, joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Wonder if you have a dorked up ACL, what happens if you try to take ownership of it? O'Reilly Active Directory Third Edition - http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tom Kern Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 8:58 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) Well, I've rebooted the server,ran a chkdsk, and still the dir will not disappear. I've run Process Explorer and Filemon and nothing is acessing this dir. Yet I can delete it and its missing the security tab(its on an ntfs vol). How the heck cn I get rid of this dir? Has anyone had an issue like this? Thanks again 4/6/06, Bruyere, Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: Hi, I got something similar but with a PDF file. The solution was to reboot the server… From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tom KernSent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 9:18 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) No one has this folder open. I've run Process Explorer and Filemon and nothing is accessing this folder. I can't delete i or share it out and its missing the security tab. anything else I should look for? Thanks On 4/5/06, Mark Parris < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have seen this if another PC has explorer open on that folder and you try and delete from another.Mark-Original Message-From: "Steve Rochford" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 16:37:03To:< ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org >Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT)This seems to happen when the folder is in the process of being deleted but hasn't quite gone. Sometimes, just waiting a while will clear the problem - I suspect that a process is holding open the folder (or, possibly, a file in the folder). More than once I've hit this and gone to use Sysinternals process explorer to find out which process is guilty. By the time I've run up the program and searched for the folder name there's nothing there. going back to the folder finds that it's either gone or can now be deleted. In your case, I'd guess that robocopy had started creating folders and when it got interrupted, something took a while for things to get tidied up - if the helpdesk guy hasn't yet unmapped the drives he was using then I think that this might help. SteveFrom: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Tom KernSent: 05 April 2006 15:45To: activedirectory Subject: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT)I have a strange issue.I had a help desk admin robocopy a dir from one server to another. During the copy, for whatever reason, he canceled the robocopy job.When he went to the target server a empty dir was created which now cannot be deleted.I can't delete it through explorer or the command console at the server and get an error of "cannot delete file:cannot read from the source file or disk". If i do a RD /s, i get "The system cannot find the file specified."However the dir shows up in a dir listing or explorer.The weird thing is also, the dir has no "security" tab(and its on an ntfs file system). Some backround on the robocopy job-the admin mapped 2 drives from his local box(win2k).One drive to the root of the volume on the source server and another to the root on the target.he then CD'ed to the source and ran robocopy with the "/E" and "/V" switches. after sometime, he killed the job and now I'm stuck with this undeletable DIR.Any insight would be great.thanks
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Subinacl,Xacls(which I stated I used already, Brian),and Setowner all give the same error- "The system cannot find the file specified". Chkdsk with a reboot didn't help at all. Thanks On 5/5/06, Brian Desmond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Cacls Xcacls Subinacl Format –q c: rm –rf / a consultant google set ownership tools perhaps too Thanks,Brian Desmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] c - 312.731.3132 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tom KernSent: Friday, May 05, 2006 9:14 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) How can I take ownership of it? It doesn't have a security tab and xcacls doesn't "see" the folder.. Thanks On 5/4/06, joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Wonder if you have a dorked up ACL, what happens if you try to take ownership of it? -- O'Reilly Active Directory Third Edition - http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tom Kern Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 8:58 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) Well, I've rebooted the server,ran a chkdsk, and still the dir will not disappear. I've run Process Explorer and Filemon and nothing is acessing this dir. Yet I can delete it and its missing the security tab(its on an ntfs vol). How the heck can I get rid of this dir? Has anyone had an issue like this? Thanks again 4/6/06, Bruyere, Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: Hi, I got something similar but with a PDF file. The solution was to reboot the server… From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tom KernSent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 9:18 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) No one has this folder open. I've run Process Explorer and Filemon and nothing is accessing this folder. I can't delete it or share it out and its missing the security tab. anything else I should look for? Thanks On 4/5/06, Mark Parris < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have seen this if another PC has explorer open on that folder and you try and delete from another.Mark-Original Message-From: "Steve Rochford" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 16:37:03To:< ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org >Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT)This seems to happen when the folder is in the process of being deleted but hasn't quite gone. Sometimes, just waiting a while will clear the problem - I suspect that a process is holding open the folder (or, possibly, a file in the folder). More than once I've hit this and gone to use Sysinternals process explorer to find out which process is guilty. By the time I've run up the program and searched for the folder name there's nothing there. going back to the folder finds that it's either gone or can now be deleted. In your case, I'd guess that robocopy had started creating folders and when it got interrupted, something took a while for things to get tidied up - if the helpdesk guy hasn't yet unmapped the drives he was using then I think that this might help. SteveFrom: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Tom KernSent: 05 April 2006 15:45To: activedirectory Subject: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT)I have a strange issue.I had a help desk admin robocopy a dir from one server to another. During the copy, for whatever reason, he canceled the robocopy job. When he went to the target server a empty dir was created which now cannot be deleted.I can't delete it through explorer or the command console at the server and get an error of "cannot delete file:cannot read from the source file or disk". If i do a RD /s, i get "The system cannot find the file specified."However the dir shows up in a dir listing or explorer.The weird thing is also, the dir has no "security" tab(and its on an ntfs file system). Some backround on the robocopy job-the admin mapped 2 drives from his local box(win2k).One drive to the root of the volume on the source server and another to the root on the target.he then CD'ed to the source and ran robocopy with the "/E" and "/V" switches. after sometime, he killed the job and now I'm stuck with this undeletable DIR.Any insight would be great.thanks
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Cacls Xcacls Subinacl Format –q c: rm –rf / a consultant google set ownership tools perhaps too Thanks, Brian Desmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] c - 312.731.3132 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Kern Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 9:14 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) How can I take ownership of it? It doesn't have a security tab and xcacls doesn't "see" the folder.. Thanks On 5/4/06, joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Wonder if you have a dorked up ACL, what happens if you try to take ownership of it? -- O'Reilly Active Directory Third Edition - http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tom Kern Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 8:58 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) Well, I've rebooted the server,ran a chkdsk, and still the dir will not disappear. I've run Process Explorer and Filemon and nothing is acessing this dir. Yet I can delete it and its missing the security tab(its on an ntfs vol). How the heck can I get rid of this dir? Has anyone had an issue like this? Thanks again 4/6/06, Bruyere, Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: Hi, I got something similar but with a PDF file. The solution was to reboot the server… From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tom Kern Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 9:18 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) No one has this folder open. I've run Process Explorer and Filemon and nothing is accessing this folder. I can't delete it or share it out and its missing the security tab. anything else I should look for? Thanks On 4/5/06, Mark Parris < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have seen this if another PC has explorer open on that folder and you try and delete from another. Mark -Original Message- From: "Steve Rochford" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 16:37:03 To:< ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) This seems to happen when the folder is in the process of being deleted but hasn't quite gone. Sometimes, just waiting a while will clear the problem - I suspect that a process is holding open the folder (or, possibly, a file in the folder). More than once I've hit this and gone to use Sysinternals process explorer to find out which process is guilty. By the time I've run up the program and searched for the folder name there's nothing there. going back to the folder finds that it's either gone or can now be deleted. In your case, I'd guess that robocopy had started creating folders and when it got interrupted, something took a while for things to get tidied up - if the helpdesk guy hasn't yet unmapped the drives he was using then I think that this might help. Steve From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Tom Kern Sent: 05 April 2006 15:45 To: activedirectory Subject: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) I have a strange issue. I had a help desk admin robocopy a dir from one server to another. During the copy, for whatever reason, he canceled the robocopy job. When he went to the target server a empty dir was created which now cannot be deleted. I can't delete it through explorer or the command console at the server and get an error of "cannot delete file:cannot read from the source file or disk". If i do a RD /s, i get "The system cannot find the file specified." However the dir shows up in a dir listing or explorer. The weird thing is also, the dir has no "security" tab(and its on an ntfs file system). Some backround on the robocopy job- the admin mapped 2 drives from his local box(win2k). One drive to the root of the volume on the source server and another to the root on the target. he then CD'ed to the source and ran robocopy with the "/E" and "/V" switches. after sometime, he killed the job and now I'm stuck with this undeletable DIR. Any insight would be great. thanks
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CHKDSK? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Kern Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 6:14 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) How can I take ownership of it? It doesn't have a security tab and xcacls doesn't "see" the folder.. Thanks On 5/4/06, joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Wonder if you have a dorked up ACL, what happens if you try to take ownership of it? -- O'Reilly Active Directory Third Edition - http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tom Kern Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 8:58 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) Well, I've rebooted the server,ran a chkdsk, and still the dir will not disappear. I've run Process Explorer and Filemon and nothing is acessing this dir. Yet I can delete it and its missing the security tab(its on an ntfs vol). How the heck can I get rid of this dir? Has anyone had an issue like this? Thanks again 4/6/06, Bruyere, Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: Hi, I got something similar but with a PDF file. The solution was to reboot the server… From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tom Kern Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 9:18 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) No one has this folder open. I've run Process Explorer and Filemon and nothing is accessing this folder. I can't delete it or share it out and its missing the security tab. anything else I should look for? Thanks On 4/5/06, Mark Parris < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have seen this if another PC has explorer open on that folder and you try and delete from another. Mark -Original Message- From: "Steve Rochford" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 16:37:03 To:< ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) This seems to happen when the folder is in the process of being deleted but hasn't quite gone. Sometimes, just waiting a while will clear the problem - I suspect that a process is holding open the folder (or, possibly, a file in the folder). More than once I've hit this and gone to use Sysinternals process explorer to find out which process is guilty. By the time I've run up the program and searched for the folder name there's nothing there. going back to the folder finds that it's either gone or can now be deleted. In your case, I'd guess that robocopy had started creating folders and when it got interrupted, something took a while for things to get tidied up - if the helpdesk guy hasn't yet unmapped the drives he was using then I think that this might help. Steve From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Tom Kern Sent: 05 April 2006 15:45 To: activedirectory Subject: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) I have a strange issue. I had a help desk admin robocopy a dir from one server to another. During the copy, for whatever reason, he canceled the robocopy job. When he went to the target server a empty dir was created which now cannot be deleted. I can't delete it through explorer or the command console at the server and get an error of "cannot delete file:cannot read from the source file or disk". If i do a RD /s, i get "The system cannot find the file specified." However the dir shows up in a dir listing or explorer. The weird thing is also, the dir has no "security" tab(and its on an ntfs file system). Some backround on the robocopy job- the admin mapped 2 drives from his local box(win2k). One drive to the root of the volume on the source server and another to the root on the target. he then CD'ed to the source and ran robocopy with the "/E" and "/V" switches. after sometime, he killed the job and now I'm stuck with this undeletable DIR. Any insight would be great. thanks
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You could try 1. subinacl 2. script 3. search the web for various ACL mod tools plus I seem to recall one tool specifically for taking ownership out on the web somewhere, I believe it was called setowner. If none of those work I see your options as A. If the file is external disk such as a SAN/NAS type device, see if the vendor has a way to tap the file. B. Open a support ticket with MSFT C. Bring someone knowledgeable other than MSFT in to start looking at the problem D. Reformatting the partition -- O'Reilly Active Directory Third Edition - http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom KernSent: Friday, May 05, 2006 9:14 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Re: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) How can I take ownership of it? It doesn't have a security tab and xcacls doesn't "see" the folder.. Thanks On 5/4/06, joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Wonder if you have a dorked up ACL, what happens if you try to take ownership of it? -- O'Reilly Active Directory Third Edition - http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tom Kern Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 8:58 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) Well, I've rebooted the server,ran a chkdsk, and still the dir will not disappear. I've run Process Explorer and Filemon and nothing is acessing this dir. Yet I can delete it and its missing the security tab(its on an ntfs vol). How the heck can I get rid of this dir? Has anyone had an issue like this? Thanks again 4/6/06, Bruyere, Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: Hi, I got something similar but with a PDF file. The solution was to reboot the server… From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tom KernSent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 9:18 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) No one has this folder open. I've run Process Explorer and Filemon and nothing is accessing this folder. I can't delete it or share it out and its missing the security tab. anything else I should look for? Thanks On 4/5/06, Mark Parris < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have seen this if another PC has explorer open on that folder and you try and delete from another.Mark-Original Message-From: "Steve Rochford" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 16:37:03To:< ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org>Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT)This seems to happen when the folder is in the process of being deleted but hasn't quite gone. Sometimes, just waiting a while will clear the problem - I suspect that a process is holding open the folder (or, possibly, a file in the folder). More than once I've hit this and gone to use Sysinternals process explorer to find out which process is guilty. By the time I've run up the program and searched for the folder name there's nothing there. going back to the folder finds that it's either gone or can now be deleted. In your case, I'd guess that robocopy had started creating folders and when it got interrupted, something took a while for things to get tidied up - if the helpdesk guy hasn't yet unmapped the drives he was using then I think that this might help. SteveFrom: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Tom KernSent: 05 April 2006 15:45To: activedirectory Subject: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT)I have a strange issue.I had a help desk admin robocopy a dir from one server to another. During the copy, for whatever reason, he canceled the robocopy job.When he went to the target server a empty dir was created which now cannot be deleted.I can't delete it through explorer or the command console at the server and get an error of "cannot delete file:cannot read from the source file or disk". If i do a RD /s, i get "The system cannot find the file specified."However the dir shows up in a dir listing or explorer.The weird thing is also, the dir has no "security" tab(and its on an ntfs file system). Some backround on the robocopy job-the admin mapped 2 drives from his local box(win2k).One drive to the root of the volume on the source server and another to the root on the target.he then CD'ed to the source and ran robocopy with the "/E" and "/V" switches. after sometime, he killed the job and now I'm stuck with this undeletable DIR.Any insight would be great.thanks
Re: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT)
How can I take ownership of it? It doesn't have a security tab and xcacls doesn't "see" the folder.. Thanks On 5/4/06, joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Wonder if you have a dorked up ACL, what happens if you try to take ownership of it? -- O'Reilly Active Directory Third Edition - http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tom Kern Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 8:58 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) Well, I've rebooted the server,ran a chkdsk, and still the dir will not disappear. I've run Process Explorer and Filemon and nothing is acessing this dir. Yet I can delete it and its missing the security tab(its on an ntfs vol). How the heck can I get rid of this dir? Has anyone had an issue like this? Thanks again 4/6/06, Bruyere, Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: Hi, I got something similar but with a PDF file. The solution was to reboot the server… From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tom KernSent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 9:18 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) No one has this folder open. I've run Process Explorer and Filemon and nothing is accessing this folder. I can't delete it or share it out and its missing the security tab. anything else I should look for? Thanks On 4/5/06, Mark Parris < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have seen this if another PC has explorer open on that folder and you try and delete from another.Mark-Original Message-From: "Steve Rochford" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 16:37:03To:< ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org>Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT)This seems to happen when the folder is in the process of being deleted but hasn't quite gone. Sometimes, just waiting a while will clear the problem - I suspect that a process is holding open the folder (or, possibly, a file in the folder). More than once I've hit this and gone to use Sysinternals process explorer to find out which process is guilty. By the time I've run up the program and searched for the folder name there's nothing there. going back to the folder finds that it's either gone or can now be deleted. In your case, I'd guess that robocopy had started creating folders and when it got interrupted, something took a while for things to get tidied up - if the helpdesk guy hasn't yet unmapped the drives he was using then I think that this might help. SteveFrom: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Tom KernSent: 05 April 2006 15:45To: activedirectory Subject: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT)I have a strange issue.I had a help desk admin robocopy a dir from one server to another. During the copy, for whatever reason, he canceled the robocopy job. When he went to the target server a empty dir was created which now cannot be deleted.I can't delete it through explorer or the command console at the server and get an error of "cannot delete file:cannot read from the source file or disk". If i do a RD /s, i get "The system cannot find the file specified."However the dir shows up in a dir listing or explorer.The weird thing is also, the dir has no "security" tab(and its on an ntfs file system). Some backround on the robocopy job-the admin mapped 2 drives from his local box(win2k).One drive to the root of the volume on the source server and another to the root on the target.he then CD'ed to the source and ran robocopy with the "/E" and "/V" switches. after sometime, he killed the job and now I'm stuck with this undeletable DIR.Any insight would be great.thanks
RE: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT)
Wonder if you have a dorked up ACL, what happens if you try to take ownership of it? -- O'Reilly Active Directory Third Edition - http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom KernSent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 8:58 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Re: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) Well, I've rebooted the server,ran a chkdsk, and still the dir will not disappear. I've run Process Explorer and Filemon and nothing is acessing this dir. Yet I can delete it and its missing the security tab(its on an ntfs vol). How the heck can I get rid of this dir? Has anyone had an issue like this? Thanks again 4/6/06, Bruyere, Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, I got something similar but with a PDF file. The solution was to reboot the server… From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tom KernSent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 9:18 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) No one has this folder open. I've run Process Explorer and Filemon and nothing is accessing this folder. I can't delete it or share it out and its missing the security tab. anything else I should look for? Thanks On 4/5/06, Mark Parris < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have seen this if another PC has explorer open on that folder and you try and delete from another.Mark-Original Message-From: "Steve Rochford" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 16:37:03To:< ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org>Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT)This seems to happen when the folder is in the process of being deleted but hasn't quite gone. Sometimes, just waiting a while will clear the problem - I suspect that a process is holding open the folder (or, possibly, a file in the folder). More than once I've hit this and gone to use Sysinternals process explorer to find out which process is guilty. By the time I've run up the program and searched for the folder name there's nothing there. going back to the folder finds that it's either gone or can now be deleted. In your case, I'd guess that robocopy had started creating folders and when it got interrupted, something took a while for things to get tidied up - if the helpdesk guy hasn't yet unmapped the drives he was using then I think that this might help. SteveFrom: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Tom KernSent: 05 April 2006 15:45To: activedirectory Subject: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT)I have a strange issue.I had a help desk admin robocopy a dir from one server to another. During the copy, for whatever reason, he canceled the robocopy job.When he went to the target server a empty dir was created which now cannot be deleted.I can't delete it through explorer or the command console at the server and get an error of "cannot delete file:cannot read from the source file or disk". If i do a RD /s, i get "The system cannot find the file specified."However the dir shows up in a dir listing or explorer.The weird thing is also, the dir has no "security" tab(and its on an ntfs file system). Some backround on the robocopy job-the admin mapped 2 drives from his local box(win2k).One drive to the root of the volume on the source server and another to the root on the target.he then CD'ed to the source and ran robocopy with the "/E" and "/V" switches. after sometime, he killed the job and now I'm stuck with this undeletable DIR.Any insight would be great.thanks
Re: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT)
Well, I've rebooted the server,ran a chkdsk, and still the dir will not disappear. I've run Process Explorer and Filemon and nothing is acessing this dir. Yet I can delete it and its missing the security tab(its on an ntfs vol). How the heck can I get rid of this dir? Has anyone had an issue like this? Thanks again 4/6/06, Bruyere, Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, I got something similar but with a PDF file. The solution was to reboot the server… From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tom KernSent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 9:18 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) No one has this folder open. I've run Process Explorer and Filemon and nothing is accessing this folder. I can't delete it or share it out and its missing the security tab. anything else I should look for? Thanks On 4/5/06, Mark Parris < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have seen this if another PC has explorer open on that folder and you try and delete from another.Mark-Original Message-From: "Steve Rochford" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 16:37:03To:< ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org>Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT)This seems to happen when the folder is in the process of being deleted but hasn't quite gone. Sometimes, just waiting a while will clear the problem - I suspect that a process is holding open the folder (or, possibly, a file in the folder). More than once I've hit this and gone to use Sysinternals process explorer to find out which process is guilty. By the time I've run up the program and searched for the folder name there's nothing there. going back to the folder finds that it's either gone or can now be deleted. In your case, I'd guess that robocopy had started creating folders and when it got interrupted, something took a while for things to get tidied up - if the helpdesk guy hasn't yet unmapped the drives he was using then I think that this might help. SteveFrom: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Tom KernSent: 05 April 2006 15:45To: activedirectory Subject: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT)I have a strange issue.I had a help desk admin robocopy a dir from one server to another. During the copy, for whatever reason, he canceled the robocopy job. When he went to the target server a empty dir was created which now cannot be deleted.I can't delete it through explorer or the command console at the server and get an error of "cannot delete file:cannot read from the source file or disk". If i do a RD /s, i get "The system cannot find the file specified."However the dir shows up in a dir listing or explorer.The weird thing is also, the dir has no "security" tab(and its on an ntfs file system). Some backround on the robocopy job-the admin mapped 2 drives from his local box(win2k).One drive to the root of the volume on the source server and another to the root on the target.he then CD'ed to the source and ran robocopy with the "/E" and "/V" switches. after sometime, he killed the job and now I'm stuck with this undeletable DIR.Any insight would be great.thanks
RE: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT)
Hi, I got something similar but with a PDF file. The solution was to reboot the server… From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Kern Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 9:18 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) No one has this folder open. I've run Process Explorer and Filemon and nothing is accessing this folder. I can't delete it or share it out and its missing the security tab. anything else I should look for? Thanks On 4/5/06, Mark Parris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have seen this if another PC has explorer open on that folder and you try and delete from another. Mark -Original Message- From: "Steve Rochford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 16:37:03 To:< ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) This seems to happen when the folder is in the process of being deleted but hasn't quite gone. Sometimes, just waiting a while will clear the problem - I suspect that a process is holding open the folder (or, possibly, a file in the folder). More than once I've hit this and gone to use Sysinternals process explorer to find out which process is guilty. By the time I've run up the program and searched for the folder name there's nothing there. going back to the folder finds that it's either gone or can now be deleted. In your case, I'd guess that robocopy had started creating folders and when it got interrupted, something took a while for things to get tidied up - if the helpdesk guy hasn't yet unmapped the drives he was using then I think that this might help. Steve From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Tom Kern Sent: 05 April 2006 15:45 To: activedirectory Subject: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) I have a strange issue. I had a help desk admin robocopy a dir from one server to another. During the copy, for whatever reason, he canceled the robocopy job. When he went to the target server a empty dir was created which now cannot be deleted. I can't delete it through explorer or the command console at the server and get an error of "cannot delete file:cannot read from the source file or disk". If i do a RD /s, i get "The system cannot find the file specified." However the dir shows up in a dir listing or explorer. The weird thing is also, the dir has no "security" tab(and its on an ntfs file system). Some backround on the robocopy job- the admin mapped 2 drives from his local box(win2k). One drive to the root of the volume on the source server and another to the root on the target. he then CD'ed to the source and ran robocopy with the "/E" and "/V" switches. after sometime, he killed the job and now I'm stuck with this undeletable DIR. Any insight would be great. thanks
Re: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT)
No one has this folder open. I've run Process Explorer and Filemon and nothing is accessing this folder. I can't delete it or share it out and its missing the security tab. anything else I should look for? Thanks On 4/5/06, Mark Parris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have seen this if another PC has explorer open on that folder and you try and delete from another. Mark-Original Message-From: "Steve Rochford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 16:37:03To:< ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org>Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT)This seems to happen when the folder is in the process of being deleted but hasn't quite gone. Sometimes, just waiting a while will clear the problem - I suspect that a process is holding open the folder (or, possibly, a file in the folder). More than once I've hit this and gone to use Sysinternals process explorer to find out which process is guilty. By the time I've run up the program and searched for the folder name there's nothing there. going back to the folder finds that it's either gone or can now be deleted. In your case, I'd guess that robocopy had started creating folders and when it got interrupted, something took a while for things to get tidied up - if the helpdesk guy hasn't yet unmapped the drives he was using then I think that this might help. SteveFrom: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Tom KernSent: 05 April 2006 15:45To: activedirectorySubject: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT)I have a strange issue.I had a help desk admin robocopy a dir from one server to another. During the copy, for whatever reason, he canceled the robocopy job.When he went to the target server a empty dir was created which now cannot be deleted.I can't delete it through explorer or the command console at the server and get an error of "cannot delete file:cannot read from the source file or disk". If i do a RD /s, i get "The system cannot find the file specified."However the dir shows up in a dir listing or explorer.The weird thing is also, the dir has no "security" tab(and its on an ntfs file system). Some backround on the robocopy job-the admin mapped 2 drives from his local box(win2k).One drive to the root of the volume on the source server and another to the root on the target.he then CD'ed to the source and ran robocopy with the "/E" and "/V" switches. after sometime, he killed the job and now I'm stuck with this undeletable DIR.Any insight would be great.thanks
Re: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT)
I have seen this if another PC has explorer open on that folder and you try and delete from another. Mark -Original Message- From: "Steve Rochford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 16:37:03 To: Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) This seems to happen when the folder is in the process of being deleted but hasn't quite gone. Sometimes, just waiting a while will clear the problem - I suspect that a process is holding open the folder (or, possibly, a file in the folder). More than once I've hit this and gone to use Sysinternals process explorer to find out which process is guilty. By the time I've run up the program and searched for the folder name there's nothing there. going back to the folder finds that it's either gone or can now be deleted. In your case, I'd guess that robocopy had started creating folders and when it got interrupted, something took a while for things to get tidied up - if the helpdesk guy hasn't yet unmapped the drives he was using then I think that this might help. Steve From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Kern Sent: 05 April 2006 15:45 To: activedirectory Subject: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) I have a strange issue. I had a help desk admin robocopy a dir from one server to another. During the copy, for whatever reason, he canceled the robocopy job. When he went to the target server a empty dir was created which now cannot be deleted. I can't delete it through explorer or the command console at the server and get an error of "cannot delete file:cannot read from the source file or disk". If i do a RD /s, i get "The system cannot find the file specified." However the dir shows up in a dir listing or explorer. The weird thing is also, the dir has no "security" tab(and its on an ntfs file system). Some backround on the robocopy job- the admin mapped 2 drives from his local box(win2k). One drive to the root of the volume on the source server and another to the root on the target. he then CD'ed to the source and ran robocopy with the "/E" and "/V" switches. after sometime, he killed the job and now I'm stuck with this undeletable DIR. Any insight would be great. thanks
RE: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT)
This seems to happen when the folder is in the process of being deleted but hasn't quite gone. Sometimes, just waiting a while will clear the problem - I suspect that a process is holding open the folder (or, possibly, a file in the folder). More than once I've hit this and gone to use Sysinternals process explorer to find out which process is guilty. By the time I've run up the program and searched for the folder name there's nothing there. going back to the folder finds that it's either gone or can now be deleted. In your case, I'd guess that robocopy had started creating folders and when it got interrupted, something took a while for things to get tidied up - if the helpdesk guy hasn't yet unmapped the drives he was using then I think that this might help. Steve From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom KernSent: 05 April 2006 15:45To: activedirectorySubject: [ActiveDir] Robocopy(OT) I have a strange issue. I had a help desk admin robocopy a dir from one server to another. During the copy, for whatever reason, he canceled the robocopy job. When he went to the target server a empty dir was created which now cannot be deleted. I can't delete it through explorer or the command console at the server and get an error of "cannot delete file:cannot read from the source file or disk". If i do a RD /s, i get "The system cannot find the file specified." However the dir shows up in a dir listing or explorer. The weird thing is also, the dir has no "security" tab(and its on an ntfs file system). Some backround on the robocopy job- the admin mapped 2 drives from his local box(win2k). One drive to the root of the volume on the source server and another to the root on the target. he then CD'ed to the source and ran robocopy with the "/E" and "/V" switches. after sometime, he killed the job and now I'm stuck with this undeletable DIR. Any insight would be great. thanks