Re: [ActiveDir] Upgrading W2K3 standard to enterprise edition
Upgrading W2K3 standard to enterprise editionYeah, you can upgrade std. to ent.
One of my implementation guys accidently built a load of boxes for me as Std.,
so I got him to upgrade them to Ent.
Worked fine. He did have issues doing this on a different project where there
was a stupidly small C partition though (4GB I think). I think Ent. needs more
room, or at least it does if you're using HPs server installation CDROM...
--Paul
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Subject: [ActiveDir] Upgrading W2K3 standard to enterprise edition
I remember there being a simple upgrade from nt4 standard to nt4 enterprise
but don't remember reading of any similar upgrade path for w2k.
Apparently such an upgrade path *does* now exist once again, for w2k3
(including the R2 edition).
Can anyone confirm or deny that such an upgrade is possible?
Thanks,
neil
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RE: [ActiveDir] Upgrading W2K3 standard to enterprise edition
Yes it does work, I have done a few on HP/Compaq here, as a test, but
its not a standard practice, if its built wrong, just wipe it, and
rebuild only takes an hour max.
Z
Edward E. Ziots
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
MCSE,MCSA,MCP+I,M.E,CCA,Network+, Security +
email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
cell:401-639-3505
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Williams
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 9:13 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Upgrading W2K3 standard to enterprise edition
Yeah, you can upgrade std. to ent.
One of my implementation guys accidently built a load of boxes for me as
Std., so I got him to upgrade them to Ent.
Worked fine. He did have issues doing this on a different project where
there was a stupidly small C partition though (4GB I think). I think
Ent. needs more room, or at least it does if you're using HPs server
installation CDROM...
--Paul
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 11:38 AM
Subject: [ActiveDir] Upgrading W2K3 standard to enterprise
edition
I remember there being a simple upgrade from nt4 standard to nt4
enterprise but don't remember reading of any similar upgrade path for
w2k.
Apparently such an upgrade path *does* now exist once again, for
w2k3 (including the R2 edition).
Can anyone confirm or deny that such an upgrade is possible?
Thanks,
neil
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Re: [ActiveDir] Upgrading W2K3 standard to enterprise edition
Upgrading W2K3 standard to enterprise editionWell, the length of time depends
on the type of build used, and the components installed. As an example, on the
last project I worked on we used OpsWare to deploy standard servers based on a
number of templates. A Windows server that matched our default build, took
closer to two hours, due to the number of post-installation scripts and
customisations. We use HP Radia now, and again, with a relatively standard
build table this is usally closer to two hours than one.
In any environment where allowed, scripted builds should always be favoured
over manual. The percentage of 100% successfully completed manual builds, when
there's a large number of instructions, is very, very few indeed.
Also, if we're talking a branch office site, it's probably much easier to
upgrade out there (and maintain applications and settings) then bring back to
the data centre and rebuild and then take back out to the branch.
Although many enterprises have the facilities to perform bare metal builds at
the branch, there are always smaller sites whereby there's a factor to stop
this, which ultimately results in the server needing to be returned to one of
the staging areas.
--Paul
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From: Ziots, Edward
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 2:22 PM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Upgrading W2K3 standard to enterprise edition
Yes it does work, I have done a few on HP/Compaq here, as a test, but its not
a standard practice, if its built wrong, just wipe it, and rebuild only takes
an hour max.
Z
Edward E. Ziots
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
MCSE,MCSA,MCP+I,M.E,CCA,Network+, Security +
email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
cell:401-639-3505
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Williams
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 9:13 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Upgrading W2K3 standard to enterprise edition
Yeah, you can upgrade std. to ent.
One of my implementation guys accidently built a load of boxes for me as
Std., so I got him to upgrade them to Ent.
Worked fine. He did have issues doing this on a different project where
there was a stupidly small C partition though (4GB I think). I think Ent.
needs more room, or at least it does if you're using HPs server installation
CDROM...
--Paul
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 11:38 AM
Subject: [ActiveDir] Upgrading W2K3 standard to enterprise edition
I remember there being a simple upgrade from nt4 standard to nt4 enterprise
but don't remember reading of any similar upgrade path for w2k.
Apparently such an upgrade path *does* now exist once again, for w2k3
(including the R2 edition).
Can anyone confirm or deny that such an upgrade is possible?
Thanks,
neil
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RE: [ActiveDir] Upgrading W2K3 standard to enterprise edition
Humm Radia, you got the info on that, is that the next version of there
Smart Start Scripting toolkit? I heard of Opsware but never used it. I
do the server builds and usually only takes about 1-2 hrs for a
bare-metal build and needed customizations. ( Patches, AV, Registry
updates, and Security templates)
Z
Edward E. Ziots
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
MCSE,MCSA,MCP+I,M.E,CCA,Network+, Security +
email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
cell:401-639-3505
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Williams
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 10:26 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Upgrading W2K3 standard to enterprise edition
Well, the length of time depends on the type of build used, and the
components installed. As an example, on the last project I worked on we
used OpsWare to deploy standard servers based on a number of templates.
A Windows server that matched our default build, took closer to two
hours, due to the number of post-installation scripts and
customisations. We use HP Radia now, and again, with a relatively
standard build table this is usally closer to two hours than one.
In any environment where allowed, scripted builds should always be
favoured over manual. The percentage of 100% successfully completed
manual builds, when there's a large number of instructions, is very,
very few indeed.
Also, if we're talking a branch office site, it's probably much easier
to upgrade out there (and maintain applications and settings) then bring
back to the data centre and rebuild and then take back out to the
branch.
Although many enterprises have the facilities to perform bare metal
builds at the branch, there are always smaller sites whereby there's a
factor to stop this, which ultimately results in the server needing to
be returned to one of the staging areas.
--Paul
- Original Message -
From: Ziots, Edward mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 2:22 PM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Upgrading W2K3 standard to enterprise
edition
Yes it does work, I have done a few on HP/Compaq here, as a
test, but its not a standard practice, if its built wrong, just wipe it,
and rebuild only takes an hour max.
Z
Edward E. Ziots
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
MCSE,MCSA,MCP+I,M.E,CCA,Network+, Security +
email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
cell:401-639-3505
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Williams
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 9:13 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Upgrading W2K3 standard to enterprise
edition
Yeah, you can upgrade std. to ent.
One of my implementation guys accidently built a load of boxes
for me as Std., so I got him to upgrade them to Ent.
Worked fine. He did have issues doing this on a different
project where there was a stupidly small C partition though (4GB I
think). I think Ent. needs more room, or at least it does if you're
using HPs server installation CDROM...
--Paul
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 11:38 AM
Subject: [ActiveDir] Upgrading W2K3 standard to
enterprise edition
I remember there being a simple upgrade from nt4
standard to nt4 enterprise but don't remember reading of any similar
upgrade path for w2k.
Apparently such an upgrade path *does* now exist once
again, for w2k3 (including the R2 edition).
Can anyone confirm or deny that such an upgrade is
possible?
Thanks,
neil
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Re: [ActiveDir] Upgrading W2K3 standard to enterprise edition
Upgrading W2K3 standard to enterprise editionHP Open View Radia is HPs
enterprise systems management product. It's like OpsWare.
It's not a replacement for Smart Start.
I've had a quick look on HPs site for you, but can't find it, which suggests
the name's changed again... :P
--Paul
- Original Message -
From: Ziots, Edward
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 3:34 PM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Upgrading W2K3 standard to enterprise edition
Humm Radia, you got the info on that, is that the next version of there Smart
Start Scripting toolkit? I heard of Opsware but never used it. I do the server
builds and usually only takes about 1-2 hrs for a bare-metal build and needed
customizations. ( Patches, AV, Registry updates, and Security templates)
Z
Edward E. Ziots
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
MCSE,MCSA,MCP+I,M.E,CCA,Network+, Security +
email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
cell:401-639-3505
--
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Williams
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 10:26 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Upgrading W2K3 standard to enterprise edition
Well, the length of time depends on the type of build used, and the
components installed. As an example, on the last project I worked on we used
OpsWare to deploy standard servers based on a number of templates. A Windows
server that matched our default build, took closer to two hours, due to the
number of post-installation scripts and customisations. We use HP Radia now,
and again, with a relatively standard build table this is usally closer to two
hours than one.
In any environment where allowed, scripted builds should always be favoured
over manual. The percentage of 100% successfully completed manual builds, when
there's a large number of instructions, is very, very few indeed.
Also, if we're talking a branch office site, it's probably much easier to
upgrade out there (and maintain applications and settings) then bring back to
the data centre and rebuild and then take back out to the branch.
Although many enterprises have the facilities to perform bare metal builds at
the branch, there are always smaller sites whereby there's a factor to stop
this, which ultimately results in the server needing to be returned to one of
the staging areas.
--Paul
- Original Message -
From: Ziots, Edward
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 2:22 PM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Upgrading W2K3 standard to enterprise edition
Yes it does work, I have done a few on HP/Compaq here, as a test, but its
not a standard practice, if its built wrong, just wipe it, and rebuild only
takes an hour max.
Z
Edward E. Ziots
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
MCSE,MCSA,MCP+I,M.E,CCA,Network+, Security +
email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
cell:401-639-3505
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Williams
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 9:13 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Upgrading W2K3 standard to enterprise edition
Yeah, you can upgrade std. to ent.
One of my implementation guys accidently built a load of boxes for me as
Std., so I got him to upgrade them to Ent.
Worked fine. He did have issues doing this on a different project where
there was a stupidly small C partition though (4GB I think). I think Ent.
needs more room, or at least it does if you're using HPs server installation
CDROM...
--Paul
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 11:38 AM
Subject: [ActiveDir] Upgrading W2K3 standard to enterprise edition
I remember there being a simple upgrade from nt4 standard to nt4
enterprise but don't remember reading of any similar upgrade path for w2k.
Apparently such an upgrade path *does* now exist once again, for w2k3
(including the R2 edition).
Can anyone confirm or deny that such an upgrade is possible?
Thanks,
neil
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RE: [ActiveDir] Upgrading W2K3 standard to enterprise edition
Ahh, Openview, yeah dont use that just too big of a product. I am happy with CIM worked right most of the time. Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP+I,M.E,CCA,Network+, Security + email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] cell:401-639-3505 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Williams Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 12:48 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Upgrading W2K3 standard to enterprise edition HP Open View Radia is HPs enterprise systems management product. It's like OpsWare. It's not a replacement for Smart Start. I've had a quick look on HPs site for you, but can't find it, which suggests the name's changed again... :P --Paul - Original Message - From: Ziots, Edward mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 3:34 PM Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Upgrading W2K3 standard to enterprise edition Humm Radia, you got the info on that, is that the next version of there Smart Start Scripting toolkit? I heard of Opsware but never used it. I do the server builds and usually only takes about 1-2 hrs for a bare-metal build and needed customizations. ( Patches, AV, Registry updates, and Security templates) Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP+I,M.E,CCA,Network+, Security + email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] cell:401-639-3505 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Williams Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 10:26 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Upgrading W2K3 standard to enterprise edition Well, the length of time depends on the type of build used, and the components installed. As an example, on the last project I worked on we used OpsWare to deploy standard servers based on a number of templates. A Windows server that matched our default build, took closer to two hours, due to the number of post-installation scripts and customisations. We use HP Radia now, and again, with a relatively standard build table this is usally closer to two hours than one. In any environment where allowed, scripted builds should always be favoured over manual. The percentage of 100% successfully completed manual builds, when there's a large number of instructions, is very, very few indeed. Also, if we're talking a branch office site, it's probably much easier to upgrade out there (and maintain applications and settings) then bring back to the data centre and rebuild and then take back out to the branch. Although many enterprises have the facilities to perform bare metal builds at the branch, there are always smaller sites whereby there's a factor to stop this, which ultimately results in the server needing to be returned to one of the staging areas. --Paul - Original Message - From: Ziots, Edward mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 2:22 PM Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Upgrading W2K3 standard to enterprise edition Yes it does work, I have done a few on HP/Compaq here, as a test, but its not a standard practice, if its built wrong, just wipe it, and rebuild only takes an hour max. Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP+I,M.E,CCA,Network+, Security + email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] cell:401-639-3505 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Williams Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 9:13 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Upgrading W2K3 standard to enterprise edition Yeah, you can upgrade std. to ent. One of my implementation guys accidently built a load of boxes for me as Std., so I got him to upgrade them to Ent. Worked fine. He did have issues doing this on a different project where there was a stupidly small C partition though (4GB I think). I think Ent. needs more room, or at least it does if you're using HPs server installation CDROM... --Paul - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED
