Re: Backup Scheduling

[Steve Harris]

Whoops!!

Looks like I got it backwards.  The example in the help under define copygroup is a 
little confusing and could be interpreted either way (I did check before I posted)

One reason to do a full backup is to consolidate all active files onto as small a set 
of media as possible in order to facilitate a quick restore.

Steve. 

>>> Andrew Raibeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 27/07/2001 10:51:24 >>>
Steve,

I'm not sure I follow the FREQUENCY recommendation.

FREQUENCY indicates the minimum number of days that must pass before the
file is eligible for backup, regardless of whether it has changed. So if
FREQUENCY is set to 30, then the file will not be backed up until at least
30 days have transpired since the last time it was backed up, even if it
changes every day. If the file does not change at all, then it will not be
backed up via incremental backup, regardless of FREQUENCY.

The easiest way to get a full backup would be to set the management
class(es) MODE parameter to ABSOLUTE (normally it is set to CHANGEDONLY,
which causes normal incremental backup behavior). The MODE=ABSOLUTE says
to back up the file regardless of whether it has changed. (Note that this
does not change how EXCLUDE statements work; if the file is EXCLUDEd, it
will not be backed up at all).

Assuming that the only reason for running weekly or monthly "full" backups
is for the sake of getting a full backup... well, I'm not sure there's
much point to doing that. But if weekly or monthly backups are required to
be kept for a longer period of time, then this would (most likely) be a
task better suited to ARCHIVE or GENERATE BACKUPSET.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Tivoli Systems
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
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Randall,

You can get a full backup by running a "selective" rather than
"incremental", however there is another way if you are willing to
sacrifice the exact day on which a full backup is done.

Specify a FREQUENCY parameter of say 30 days in the copygroup for these
files. Then run your daily incrementals. Any file that changes will be
backed up, and any file that hasn't been backed up in 30 days will also be
backed up again.  Provided you stagger your implementation, this should
prove as effective as a monthly full.

There is a caveat in that if you manage retention by number of versions
rather than by retention period, each selective or backup due to frequency
will push the oldest retained version off the list and it will no longer
be available. It will probably make no difference, but you should be
aware.

Regards

Steve Harris
AIX and TSM Admin
Queensland Health, Brisbane Australia



>>> Randal L Riedinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 27/07/2001
3:41:19 >>>
I'm new to TSM and I am setting up a system for the first time.  We
have around 4,000 desk top systems and 200 servers.  Most of the
desk top systems will have weekly backups of a selected directory tree.
The
rest will have monthly full backups and daily incrementals. We have
10/100 Ethernet to most of the systems and FDDI to some of the servers.
We currently have a 100 bps FDDI backbone linking the routers but we are
upgrading to 1GB Ethernet.  The TSM server has 1GB Ethernet off of
the new backbone.  We can do the small full backups on week nights and
the large ones over the week end.  The weekly backups will need to
be staggered through out the month.  If a full backup fails it needs to
be rescheduled for some number of retries with notification of the
failures.
How do I do this?  My next question is how do I set up the schedules?  I
can
visualize defining 7 weekly schedules for each day of the week and 31
monthly
schedules for each day of the month and associating the nodes to them.  Is
there
a better way to do this?  What do you have to do to get a full backup
verses an
incremental?

Re: Backup Scheduling

[Andrew Raibeck]

Steve,

I'm not sure I follow the FREQUENCY recommendation.

FREQUENCY indicates the minimum number of days that must pass before the
file is eligible for backup, regardless of whether it has changed. So if
FREQUENCY is set to 30, then the file will not be backed up until at least
30 days have transpired since the last time it was backed up, even if it
changes every day. If the file does not change at all, then it will not be
backed up via incremental backup, regardless of FREQUENCY.

The easiest way to get a full backup would be to set the management
class(es) MODE parameter to ABSOLUTE (normally it is set to CHANGEDONLY,
which causes normal incremental backup behavior). The MODE=ABSOLUTE says
to back up the file regardless of whether it has changed. (Note that this
does not change how EXCLUDE statements work; if the file is EXCLUDEd, it
will not be backed up at all).

Assuming that the only reason for running weekly or monthly "full" backups
is for the sake of getting a full backup... well, I'm not sure there's
much point to doing that. But if weekly or monthly backups are required to
be kept for a longer period of time, then this would (most likely) be a
task better suited to ARCHIVE or GENERATE BACKUPSET.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Tivoli Systems
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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"The command line is your friend"

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Randall,

You can get a full backup by running a "selective" rather than
"incremental", however there is another way if you are willing to
sacrifice the exact day on which a full backup is done.

Specify a FREQUENCY parameter of say 30 days in the copygroup for these
files. Then run your daily incrementals. Any file that changes will be
backed up, and any file that hasn't been backed up in 30 days will also be
backed up again.  Provided you stagger your implementation, this should
prove as effective as a monthly full.

There is a caveat in that if you manage retention by number of versions
rather than by retention period, each selective or backup due to frequency
will push the oldest retained version off the list and it will no longer
be available. It will probably make no difference, but you should be
aware.

Regards

Steve Harris
AIX and TSM Admin
Queensland Health, Brisbane Australia



>>> Randal L Riedinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 27/07/2001
3:41:19 >>>
I'm new to TSM and I am setting up a system for the first time.  We
have around 4,000 desk top systems and 200 servers.  Most of the
desk top systems will have weekly backups of a selected directory tree.
The
rest will have monthly full backups and daily incrementals. We have
10/100 Ethernet to most of the systems and FDDI to some of the servers.
We currently have a 100 bps FDDI backbone linking the routers but we are
upgrading to 1GB Ethernet.  The TSM server has 1GB Ethernet off of
the new backbone.  We can do the small full backups on week nights and
the large ones over the week end.  The weekly backups will need to
be staggered through out the month.  If a full backup fails it needs to
be rescheduled for some number of retries with notification of the
failures.
How do I do this?  My next question is how do I set up the schedules?  I
can
visualize defining 7 weekly schedules for each day of the week and 31
monthly
schedules for each day of the month and associating the nodes to them.  Is
there
a better way to do this?  What do you have to do to get a full backup
verses an
incremental?

Re: Backup Scheduling

[Steve Harris]

Randall,

You can get a full backup by running a "selective" rather than "incremental", however 
there is another way if you are willing to sacrifice the exact day on which a full 
backup is done.

Specify a FREQUENCY parameter of say 30 days in the copygroup for these files. Then 
run your daily incrementals. Any file that changes will be backed up, and any file 
that hasn't been backed up in 30 days will also be backed up again.  Provided you 
stagger your implementation, this should prove as effective as a monthly full.

There is a caveat in that if you manage retention by number of versions rather than by 
retention period, each selective or backup due to frequency will push the oldest 
retained version off the list and it will no longer be available. It will probably 
make no difference, but you should be aware.

Regards

Steve Harris
AIX and TSM Admin
Queensland Health, Brisbane Australia 



>>> Randal L Riedinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 27/07/2001 3:41:19 >>>
I'm new to TSM and I am setting up a system for the first time.  We
have around 4,000 desk top systems and 200 servers.  Most of the
desk top systems will have weekly backups of a selected directory tree. The
rest will have monthly full backups and daily incrementals. We have
10/100 Ethernet to most of the systems and FDDI to some of the servers.
We currently have a 100 bps FDDI backbone linking the routers but we are
upgrading to 1GB Ethernet.  The TSM server has 1GB Ethernet off of
the new backbone.  We can do the small full backups on week nights and
the large ones over the week end.  The weekly backups will need to
be staggered through out the month.  If a full backup fails it needs to
be rescheduled for some number of retries with notification of the failures.
How do I do this?  My next question is how do I set up the schedules?  I can
visualize defining 7 weekly schedules for each day of the week and 31 monthly
schedules for each day of the month and associating the nodes to them.  Is
there
a better way to do this?  What do you have to do to get a full backup
verses an
incremental?

TSM client installation on SUN, errors starting up

[Chuck Lam]

Just installed TSM 4.1.0 on a Sun Sparc running
Solaris 2.7.  Installation showed no errors. When I
typed 'dsmc', I got the following errors:

 ld.so.1:dsmc:fatal:relocation error: file dsmc:
symbol  _ex_register64: referenced symbol not found
 Killed.

Reinstallation still produced the same errors.

Has anyone come across this error? Please advise.

TIA

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Include/Exclude needed for Mac?

[Prather, Wanda]

I am NOT Mac literate -
Would someone kindly share with me their INCLUDE/EXCLUDE list for Mac
clients?

There is a small set in the "Using the Mac Clients" book, but it looks to me
like there are other directories that can be exluded, like Netscape cache?
or the Spool Folder? Temporary Items?

Thanks!

Re: Expire Logs "C" Program for Tivoli 4.2 and Informix

[Matthew A. Bacchi]

Fred,
From what I have read and been told by IBM support, you will want to 
use the TSM 3.7 API no matter what version of the other TSM client code you 
use.  Apparently the API for 4.1 and above has major problems, this will be 
fixed, but for now just use the 3.7 API.

-Matt

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Re: Magstar 3570

[Ford, Phillip]

You could logically divide up the client system in to two.  Register two
nodes with *SM.  Make two opt file sets (includes/excludes, pre and posts,
and proper stanzas in sys file) with proper domains and excludes/includes
(one for first half and one for the other).  These should be able to run at
the same time as long as the client has enough horsepower.

Hope that helps


--
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Senior Software Specialist
Corporate Computer Center
Schering-Plough Corp.
(901) 320-4462
(901) 320-4856 FAX
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-Original Message-
From: Bill Wheeler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 2:12 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Magstar 3570


Hello *SMers,

Here is a situation that we are trying to look at to hopefully cut
down our archive time.  I was wondering if any of you have an idea if it
would be possible.

Currently we are running TSM 4.1.2.0 on an AIX 4.3.3.0

We run a nightly archive of 70 GB that is taking just over 8 hours
uncompressed.   In our Magstar 3570 we have two different tape drives.   My
question follows:   Is it possible to be running two different archives at
the same time to cut down the processing time?   If it is possible how would
you go at it?   I know I see allot of *SMers talking about backup clients at
the same time, but the information we back up comes off of one RS/6000 AIX
server.Is it possible to be running two sessions off the same machine at
the same time?


Any help would be grateful.

Thanks in Advance,

Bill Wheeler
AIX Administrator
La-Z-Boy Incorporated
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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Re: Magstar 3570

[David Longo]

Yes, you can have two sessions running at the same time.  On the client
in the dsm.opt file, there is a parameter you can add -
RESOURCEUTILIZATION X
Where X is the number of sessions you want (really 2x the number).
See docs on Clients for info on this.  Generally if you want 2 sessions 
set X to 4.

If you are running direct to tape then you don't want more 
sessions than drives available.


David B. Longo
System Administrator
Health First, Inc.
3300 Fiske Blvd.
Rockledge, FL 32955-4305
PH  321.434.5536
Pager  321.634.8230
Fax:321.434.5525
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/26/01 03:12PM >>>
Hello *SMers,

Here is a situation that we are trying to look at to hopefully cut
down our archive time.  I was wondering if any of you have an idea if it
would be possible.

Currently we are running TSM 4.1.2.0 on an AIX 4.3.3.0

We run a nightly archive of 70 GB that is taking just over 8 hours
uncompressed.   In our Magstar 3570 we have two different tape drives.   My
question follows:   Is it possible to be running two different archives at
the same time to cut down the processing time?   If it is possible how would
you go at it?   I know I see allot of *SMers talking about backup clients at
the same time, but the information we back up comes off of one RS/6000 AIX
server.Is it possible to be running two sessions off the same machine at
the same time?


Any help would be grateful.

Thanks in Advance,

Bill Wheeler
AIX Administrator
La-Z-Boy Incorporated
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 



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Re: Copy storage pools

[Jack McKinney]

Big Brother tells me that Liberio, Nick (XEB) wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I am a newbie to all this and I am wondering if it is possilbe to create a
> copy storage pool and have it write to optical media instead of
> magnetic(tape).  The reason being is that I would like to have a backup set
> of opticals that I would like to store offsite.

 Create a FILE class with a 650MB limit, and then burn the files it
creates onto CD...

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1024D/D68F2C07 4096g/38AEF076

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Re: export multiple nodes, but only import one?

[Jack McKinney]

Big Brother tells me that Matthew A. Bacchi wrote:
>
> If you export your node data to a FILE device class, then tar all that data to 
> your tapes(spanning tapes if necessary), you get the greatest efficiency and 
> can later untar just what you desire before importing to TSM.  The only 
> problem you may have is that your disk capacity is not enough to handle the 
> exports from the TSM server.

This was my first solution.  The problem is that I don't have any disk
space sitting around that I can export to.  I have a 240G DISK stgpool,
and one of the nodes that I need to export is 9G.  I wanted to export them
to a FILE class with 650MB limit to burn to CD.  However, then only place
I can do this to is an NFS directory on another machine.  When I discovered
that we had a 5G 8mm tape drive lying around, I rejoiced!

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server to server

[Steven P Roder]

Hi All,

 I am having a problem with a server-to-server setup.  I am able to
export a client, and it create a virtual volumes on the source server,
with the data going over to the target, but with I start the import on the
target, I get error positioning the volume.  Both servers are TSM 4.1.2.0
under AIX 4.3.3.  Has anyone seen this before?  Here are the logs:

export:

07/26/01 14:55:38 ANR2017I Administrator RODER issued command: EXPORT NODE
tkssteve.cc.BUFFALO.-
07/26/01 14:55:38 EDU filespace=* do=* filedata=all preview=no
devclass=2luke scratch=yes
07/26/01 14:55:38 ANR0984I Process 30 for EXPORT NODE started in the
BACKGROUND at 14:55:38.
07/26/01 14:55:38 ANR0402I Session 1019 started for administrator RODER
(Server) (Memory IPC).
07/26/01 14:55:38 ANR8340I SERVER volume 2LUKE.EXP.996173738 mounted.
07/26/01 14:55:38 ANR1360I Output volume 2LUKE.EXP.996173738 opened
(sequence number 1).
07/26/01 14:55:38 ANR0610I EXPORT NODE started by RODER as process 30.
07/26/01 14:55:39 ANR0635I EXPORT NODE: Processing node
TKSSTEVE.CC.BUFFALO.EDU in domain
07/26/01 14:55:39 UBMASTER.
07/26/01 14:55:39 ANR0637I EXPORT NODE: Processing file space
\oemcomputerc$ for node
07/26/01 14:55:39 TKSSTEVE.CC.BUFFALO.EDU.

q pr on source shows:

 30 EXPORT NODE  ANR0648I Have copied the following: 1
Nodes  1
   Filespaces  264 Backup Files  98212
Bytes  (0
   errors have been detected).

   Current output volume:
2LUKE.EXP.996173738.

q sesssion on target:

 2,725   Tcp/Ip   MediaW58 S  3.1 K   506   NodeAIX-RS/-
ADSM

export completes:

07/26/01 15:17:19 ANR1361I Output volume 2LUKE.EXP.996173738 closed.
07/26/01 15:17:19 ANR0617I EXPORT NODE: Processing completed with status
SUCCESS.
07/26/01 15:17:19 ANR0626I EXPORT NODE: Copied 1 node definitions.
07/26/01 15:17:19 ANR0627I EXPORT NODE: Copied 1 file space 6 archive
files, 41323 backup files,
07/26/01 15:17:19 and 0 space managed files.
07/26/01 15:17:19 ANR0629I EXPORT NODE: Copied 3347646298 bytes of data.
07/26/01 15:17:19 ANR0611I EXPORT NODE started by RODER as process 30 has
ended.
07/26/01 15:17:19 ANR4006I EXPORT NODE: Volume 1 written by process is
2LUKE.EXP.996173738.
07/26/01 15:17:19 ANR0986I Process 30 for EXPORT NODE running in the
BACKGROUND processed 41331
07/26/01 15:17:19 items for a total of 3,347,646,298 bytes with a
completion state of SUCCESS at
07/26/01 15:17:19 15:17:19.


..a tape is mounted, and the data is written.  Then, I go to the target
server, and issue the import command:

07/26/01 15:25:13 ANR2017I Administrator RODER issued command: IMPORT NODE
tkssteve.cc.BUFFALO.-
07/26/01 15:25:13 EDU filespace=* do=ubmaster filedata=all devclass=2luke
preview=no dates=abso-
07/26/01 15:25:13 lute vol=2LUKE.EXP.996173738
07/26/01 15:25:13 ANR0984I Process 440 for IMPORT NODE started in the
BACKGROUND at 15:25:13.
07/26/01 15:25:13 ANR0402I Session 2740 started for administrator RODER
(Server) (Memory IPC).
07/26/01 15:25:13 ANR0406I Session 2742 started for node ADSM
(AIX-RS/6000) (Tcp/Ip 128.205.7.8-
07/26/01 15:25:13 0(56589)).
07/26/01 15:25:13 ANR8340I SERVER volume 2LUKE.EXP.996173738 mounted.
07/26/01 15:25:13 ANRD pvrserv.c(650): Error positioning SERVER volume
2LUKE.EXP.996173738 to
07/26/01 15:25:13 1:0.
07/26/01 15:25:13 ANRD xibf.c(902): Error 5 encountered in opening
import stream.
07/26/01 15:25:13 ANR0661E IMPORT NODE: Internal error encountered in
accessing data storage.
07/26/01 15:25:13 ANR0985I Process 440 for IMPORT NODE running in the
BACKGROUND completed with
07/26/01 15:25:13 completion state FAILURE at 15:25:13.
07/26/01 15:25:13 ANR0568W Session 2740 for admin RODER (Server)
terminated - connection with
07/26/01 15:25:13 client severed.

If I do a q mount, the virtual volumes is mounted:

tsm: ADSM_AIX>q mount
ANR8332I SERVER volume 2LUKE.EXP.996173738 is mounted R/O, status: IDLE.

Has anyone seen this error before, and know it's cause?  I have tried
multiple exports, both with the data going to disk, and tape on the target
server, to no avail.  Is this a bug in 4.1.2.0?  I did this sucsessfully
from a Solaris 3.7.3 to AIX 4.1.2.0.

Thanks for any help.

Steve Roder, University at Buffalo
HOD Service Coordinator
VM Systems Programmer
UNIX Systems Administrator (Solaris and AIX)
TSM/ADSM Administrator
([EMAIL PROTECTED] | (716)645-3564 | http://ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu/~tkssteve)

Magstar 3570

[Bill Wheeler]

Hello *SMers,

Here is a situation that we are trying to look at to hopefully cut
down our archive time.  I was wondering if any of you have an idea if it
would be possible.

Currently we are running TSM 4.1.2.0 on an AIX 4.3.3.0

We run a nightly archive of 70 GB that is taking just over 8 hours
uncompressed.   In our Magstar 3570 we have two different tape drives.   My
question follows:   Is it possible to be running two different archives at
the same time to cut down the processing time?   If it is possible how would
you go at it?   I know I see allot of *SMers talking about backup clients at
the same time, but the information we back up comes off of one RS/6000 AIX
server.Is it possible to be running two sessions off the same machine at
the same time?


Any help would be grateful.

Thanks in Advance,

Bill Wheeler
AIX Administrator
La-Z-Boy Incorporated
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Re: Copy storage pools

[David Longo]

Check and make sure the Optical Library you plan to use is
supported by your *SM version.

David Longo

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/26/01 02:46PM >>>
On Thu, 26 Jul 2001, Liberio, Nick (XEB) wrote:

> I am a newbie to all this and I am wondering if it is possilbe to create a
> copy storage pool and have it write to optical media instead of
> magnetic(tape).

I have never tried, but don't see why you would not be able to do it.
As far as I understand TSM really doesn't care about media types for most
operations. If you can define a storage pool with volumes of optical disk,
then you surely can use it as a copy/storage pool. That, as I see it, is
one of the beauties of TSM.



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Retrieving Associated Volumes from Off-Site

[Ruth Robertson]

My copy storage pool volumes go off-site.  Once a week, I start reclamation
for the off-site volumes: I list out volumes where percent reclaimable space
>= 95, I retrieve those volumes from off-site, check them in, and set
reclamation to 95.  Works great...except for a few volumes that complain
about an associated volume before they'll be reclaimed.  The associated
volumes don't show up in the reclamation list, and are therefore not
retrieved from off-site.  How do I get the list of volumes associated with
those in the reclamation list?
Since I only receive the ADSM-L Digest, please email me directly.
Thanks!
Ruth Robertson, Unix Administrator
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: scratch volumes

[Robin Sharpe]

See below for my replies...



>In your experience is restore actually faster with collocation?

That depends (I hate saying that!)  The data will not be transferred
faster, if that's what you mean.  If you're comparing a restore from a
non-collocated storage pool that contains 50 nodes, vs. a restore from a
collocated storage pool, you'll probably have fewer tape mounts with the
collocated pool.
Fewer tape mounts = less media wait = faster restore.  And that is how
collocation is supposed to work.

>The strategy I am considering is to use TSM for mostly short term storage
>for the bulk of my data and to use a different system for monthly backups.

I'm guessing you want to keep a month's worth of daily backups, and a
year's worth of monthly backups, or some variation on that theme.  That's a
typical "traditional" backup scenario.  I suggest you avoid it if possible
(although we do that in some cases).  The main reason to do that is
everyone is afraid of having to buy and track and store thousands of tape
cartridges.  The problem with it is, after that month of dailies is gone,
you only have the state of the client as it was on the day when the monthly
was taken.  If you do your monthly on the 30th, and someone needs a file
that was created last January 10th, then deleted on January 20th, you can't
help them.  That kind of request is really an archive/retrieve situation.
TSM's backup/restore is really intended to bring a
file/filesystem/drive/machine back after some loss (hardware, accidental
delete, etc.) and usually you want the latest version, which TSM is very
good at handling with daily incrementals.

This could turn into a political/philosophical debate, but really, the
owner of the data (the end user) is responsible for archiving it for long
term storage.  You as the TSM admin can facilitate that for them, but
policy needs to be set regarding how much to archive, how frequently, and
for how long, and the data owner should foot the bill for the media.

(Soap box mode off)

>Alternatively I am considering using Archives for my long term.

That's what we do for our Domino servers, for the reason stated above (too
many tapes).  I had lengthy discussions with the Domino admins about it,
and they accept that they only have monthly snapshots, and probably will
have to say "I'm sorry" someday when someone needs that email they lost on
January 15th.  But, you know what?  It'll probably never happen ;)

>Previously ADSM was not very good for Point in time or "snapshots".

It is cumbersome at times.  In the past we have done PIT restores in
Disaster Recovery tests.  We have one coming up next week, and this time
we're opting for a straight restore (active versions).  That's probably
what we would do in a real disaster anyway.

>Even if there was a way to move all data from a node to a storage pool,
>this may be able to do the defragmentation.

I've never tried it, but maybe an export/import would do the trick?

>I would also like to have a way to see where the data from a file space is
>(i.e. storage pools, tapes).

You can get some of that with "q contents", "q backups", and "q
volumeusage", but they take a real long time to run.  What you can't get
(at least I haven't found a way) is "What tape is version #5 of file
xyz.txt on?".  TSM can get this of course, because it always knows
immediately what tape to mount when you restore that file.  As many have
said before, what we need is a way to preview what tapes will be needed for
a restore, like the "restore volume" command has.


Robin Sharpe
Berlex Laboratories

Re: scratch volumes

[Francisco Reyes]

On Thu, 26 Jul 2001, Robin Sharpe wrote:

> So collocation, in general will use more scratch tapes, and will have more
> tapes FILLING, than the same nodes in a non-collocated pool.  The payback
> of collocation is supposed to be faster restores due to not having to wade
> through other nodes' data.  However, in practice, after many months or
> years of backups, a restore will still have to go through its own inactive
> files to find the active ones to restore (or the correct inactive ones for
> a Point In Time restore).

In your experience is restore actually faster with collocation?
The strategy I am considering is to use TSM for mostly short term storage
for the bulk of my data and to use a different system for monthly backups.

Alternatively I am considering using Archives for my long term.
I had been away from TSM/ADSM for 2 years and just getting back to it.
Previously ADSM was not very good for Point in time or "snapshots".
It seems there are some new facilities, but have not got a chance
to check them yet... to busy just getting the existing setup into shape.
The previous admins left kind of a mess.


> Perhaps what we need is a way to "defragment" a node's already backed up
> data... resort it by active/inactive then by date... so all the active
> versions are contiguous.

Even if there was a way to move all data from a node to a storage pool,
this may be able to do the defragmentation.

I would also like to have a way to see where the data from a file space is
(i.e. storage pools, tapes).

Expire Logs "C" Program for Tivoli 4.2 and Informix

[Prose, Fred]

Does anyone have an upgraded versions of the expire_logs "C" program that
works with 4.x Tivoli and Informix (prefer AIX).  We had been using a
version of this program on ADSM 3.7 version and I've had no luck converting
it to 4.2 Tivoli.  It would appear that some of the structures and changed
and I'll admit I'm no "C" programmer.

Fred Prose

Re: Copy storage pools

[Francisco Reyes]

On Thu, 26 Jul 2001, Liberio, Nick (XEB) wrote:

> I am a newbie to all this and I am wondering if it is possilbe to create a
> copy storage pool and have it write to optical media instead of
> magnetic(tape).

I have never tried, but don't see why you would not be able to do it.
As far as I understand TSM really doesn't care about media types for most
operations. If you can define a storage pool with volumes of optical disk,
then you surely can use it as a copy/storage pool. That, as I see it, is
one of the beauties of TSM.

Re: Tape volume list ?

[Francisco Reyes]

On Thu, 26 Jul 2001, Richard Sims wrote:
> Francisco - This TSM server command should show all your storage pool volumes.

Simmilar to "Query Volume"?
The sample output someone sent to the list seemed like it only gives info
for a library.

I usually use "q stgpool" to see my pools and "q vol" to see my volumes.

Re: Tape volume list ?

[Francisco Reyes]

On Thu, 26 Jul 2001, David Longo wrote:

> Here a sample from my system - TSM server 3.7.4.0
>
> tsm: ADSM>q media stg=*  f=d
>
>Volume Name: 016D14
>  State: Mountable in library
> Last Update Date/Time: 07/24/01   14:42:14
>Location:
>   Storage Pool Name: BKUPTAPE
> Automated LibName: 3575LIB1
>  Volume Status: Full
> Access: Read-Only
>   Last Reference Date: 07/25/01   21:48:57

Does that command only applies to tape libraries?
I only get "No match found using this criteria"

Re: Tape volume list ?

[Tab Trepagnier]

David / all,

The scheme you describe using predefined storage pool volumes is one we've
used for several years.  After checking in the scratch tapes, you then
Define Volume them to the storage pool.  They enter the pool with status
= "empty."
Until their first use, they still show as "scratch" in the libvolume list.
Once the volume has been touched with data, it becomes a private volume.
If emptied through reclamation, etc., it toggles to "pending" then back to
"empty."  It never leaves the storage pool.
There are three advantages to doing things that way:
1) You can check the number of empty/pending tapes in the pool to get a
accurate count of remaining capacity;
2) MaxScratch is irrelevant; the pool uses all the tapes; period;
3) Volume mount counts are cumulative and never reset to zero.

However, there is no free lunch.  Disadvantages include:
1) The requirement to perform TWO operations every time a tape is added to
a library (Label Libv and Define Vol);
2) If the library is shared among multiple data streams, this amounts to a
hard wall between partitions.  For example, our 3575-L18 is set up this way
because it receives exactly one data stream-a set of backups to one storage
pool.  Every tape within that library holds data from that stream.  Our DLT
library is NOT set up that way because it receives three data streams:
Copypool, Permanent Archives, and DB backups.  In the DLT library we use
the traditional setup with all scratch volumes so that whichever stream
needs a fresh volume can pick one from the scratch supply.

We are gradually moving away from an all-private-volume setup.

Tab Trepagnier
TSM Administrator
Laitram Corporation









David Longo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@VM.MARIST.EDU> on 07/26/2001
12:29:10 PM

Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Subject:  Re: Tape volume list ?


I agree with the other comments mode so far on this, you can't keep
track of ALL volumes.  There is one thing you can do to help some
though.  Instead of having just a batch of SCRATCH volumes, you
can assign emopty violumes to a specific STGPOOL with the DEF VOL
command.  I haven't used but I believe they won't go back to scratch
when empty and you may be able to query them with Q commands.

This would only be if you can reasonably know how many volumes are
needed for each of your SEQ STG POOLS.  You would still need some
as SCRATCH for DB BACKUPS, I don't think they can be assigned.

Just another thought.

David Longo

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/26/01 05:35AM >>>
Hi again Matthew ;)

The thing is that i'm not interested in the Storage pool volumes or volumes
in the library,...
I want to know ALL volumes.
Also the DB backups, the scratch tapes in the desk of the Media team, ...
Basicly every tape that has ever been labeled on that server.

How else do you know what label to give to a new tape ?
I know I've labeled tape ec0001 through eC0100, but if a colleague wants to
label ten more, how does he know they have to be ec0101 to ec0110 if q
vol,.. shows the highest volume in use, or the library to be ec0071 ?

Is there a way to do that ?

Stan






Matthew Large <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 25/07/2001 15:02:11

Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:(bcc: Stan Vernaillen/BE/CCE)
Subject:  Re: Tape volume list ?



q volume shows all volumes known to the server - onsite or offsite.
q libv  displays all volumes inside the library.

-Original Message-
From: Stan Vernaillen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 25 July 2001 13:21
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Tape volume list ?


All,



Does anyone know of a way to have a list of all tape volumes known to the
  server?

I mean not only the tape volumes in the library , but also the ones stored
  offsite, on the scratch rack,...



The reason I'm asking is to know which numbers to use when labeling new
  tapes.

Using 3.7.4 on AIX



Any comments welcome,

Stan


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Re: Backup Scheduling

[Francisco Reyes]

On Thu, 26 Jul 2001, Randal L Riedinger wrote:

> We can do the small full backups on week nights and
> the large ones over the week end.

Although you can force "full" backups I recommend you only do incremental
backups. The TSM server will only backup what has changed since it's last
backup, yet have a complete set of data available for restores. There is
no need to backup ALL your data every time.


>The weekly backups will need to be staggered through out the month.

I think what you wrote above is not exactly correct. If these "weekly"
backups need to be scattered, it would be througout the week, not month.
Otherwise these are monthly backups not weekly.
You could just set 3 groups and distribute your clients amongst these 3
groups. I recommend against going crazy and creating 7 events. TSM has a
number of facilities to control how many processes and when they are run.
For instance you can specify you only want up to 20 processes running.
Your 3 sessions will all be set to the same time and you can specify a
window when the jobs can start of 4 hours. TSM does some level of
randomization so not all jobs actually start at the same time, then as the
different times are trigered only as many jobs as the max you defined will
start. The other jobs will wait until jobs complete as long as the window
specified has not elapsed.


> If a full backup fails it needs to
> be rescheduled for some number of retries with notification of the failures.

There are 3 modes of backup. Look at the online help when defining the
backup types. I don't recall the names but basically you can set them to
not backup open files (I think name of one is static), try to backup open
files at the end of the backup run and retry up to a number of retries
which you can specify and lastly you can tell TSM to backup the files
regardless of whether they are open.

> how do I set up the schedules?

>From the web GUI
Object View
automation
Client Schedules

>I can visualize defining 7 weekly schedules for each day of the week and 31 monthly
> schedules for each day of the month and associating the nodes to them.  Is

For starters I don't advise you do 7 weekly schedules. I think 2 or 3 is
probably enough. You could also try just doing it all at once. How much of
the data on the local machines changes? If it is just a few megs daily
then you could even do them all in one night.

The only issue with having 7 schedules is that it becomes more difficult
to maintain. Same for the monthly. You could probably just do 2 or 3
schedules and put all clients in them.


>  What do you have to do to get a full backup
> verses an incremental?

That is a parameter you define when doing the backup.

I highly recommend you "play" with the different options and parameters
when setting up the clients and schedules. Although you can get a lot of
god advice from this list, but nothing will be as good as just doing some
work, trying different settings and determining what works for you.

Re: Backup Scheduling

[Lindsay Morris]

We get this question often, full vs incremental.  We need a paradigm-shift
whitepaper, explaining how TSM never needs a full backup.  The best I know
of is the Storage Vision paper,
http://www.tivoli.com/products/documents/whitepapers/storage_vision.html,
section 3.3.1.1.2.


> -Original Message-
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Randal L Riedinger
> Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 1:41 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Backup Scheduling
>
>
> I'm new to TSM and I am setting up a system for the first time.  We
> have around 4,000 desk top systems and 200 servers.  Most of the
> desk top systems will have weekly backups of a selected directory
> tree. The
> rest will have monthly full backups and daily incrementals. We have
> 10/100 Ethernet to most of the systems and FDDI to some of the servers.
> We currently have a 100 bps FDDI backbone linking the routers but we are
> upgrading to 1GB Ethernet.  The TSM server has 1GB Ethernet off of
> the new backbone.  We can do the small full backups on week nights and
> the large ones over the week end.  The weekly backups will need to
> be staggered through out the month.  If a full backup fails it needs to
> be rescheduled for some number of retries with notification of
> the failures.
> How do I do this?  My next question is how do I set up the
> schedules?  I can
> visualize defining 7 weekly schedules for each day of the week
> and 31 monthly
> schedules for each day of the month and associating the nodes to them.  Is
> there
> a better way to do this?  What do you have to do to get a full backup
> verses an
> incremental?
> 
> 
> ---
> --
>  
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> MS142-4 tab> >| phone: (216)
> 433-8951 
> ACS Government Solutions Group  | pager: (216)
> 705-0505 
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> Center  |
> fax:  
> (216) 433-8000 
> 21000 Brookpark
> Road  &nbs
> p; &n
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Re: scratch volumes

[Robin Sharpe]

>>I understand this - it's the effect of collocation.

>I am not sure this statement is correct.
>Collocation attempts to keep data for a particular node either all in one
>tape or all data for one file space in one tape. This is not directly
>related to how many scratch tapes are used.

Sure it is.  Suppose you have three nodes collocated in a brand new storage
pool, you have several tapes in the scratch pool, and the storage pool has
a high maxscratch value.  The first backups on each node will go to
separate tapes -- so far, three tapes used in the pool.  Let's say NODE1
has used 80% of VOL001, NODE2 has used 25% of VOL002, and NODE3 has used
only 5% of VOL003.  Next backup on NODE1 (which is a very volatile machine)
needs to backup 50% of it's data again.  So it mounts VOL001 and writes
until the volume is full.  But there is still more to backup... but NODE1
can't use VOL002 or VOL003 because of collocation, so it grabs a new
scratch tape (VOL004).

So collocation, in general will use more scratch tapes, and will have more
tapes FILLING, than the same nodes in a non-collocated pool.  The payback
of collocation is supposed to be faster restores due to not having to wade
through other nodes' data.  However, in practice, after many months or
years of backups, a restore will still have to go through its own inactive
files to find the active ones to restore (or the correct inactive ones for
a Point In Time restore).

Perhaps what we need is a way to "defragment" a node's already backed up
data... resort it by active/inactive then by date... so all the active
versions are contiguous.

Robin Sharpe
Berlex Laboratories

Backup Scheduling

[Randal L Riedinger]

I'm new to TSM and I am setting up a system for the first time.  We
have around 4,000 desk top systems and 200 servers.  Most of the
desk top systems will have weekly backups of a selected directory tree. The
rest will have monthly full backups and daily incrementals. We have
10/100 Ethernet to most of the systems and FDDI to some of the servers.
We currently have a 100 bps FDDI backbone linking the routers but we are
upgrading to 1GB Ethernet.  The TSM server has 1GB Ethernet off of
the new backbone.  We can do the small full backups on week nights and
the large ones over the week end.  The weekly backups will need to
be staggered through out the month.  If a full backup fails it needs to
be rescheduled for some number of retries with notification of the failures.
How do I do this?  My next question is how do I set up the schedules?  I can
visualize defining 7 weekly schedules for each day of the week and 31 monthly
schedules for each day of the month and associating the nodes to them.  Is
there
a better way to do this?  What do you have to do to get a full backup
verses an
incremental?


-
 
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MS142-4| phone: (216)
433-8951 
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705-0505 
NASA Glenn Research
Center  | fax:  
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Re: Tape volume list ?

[David Longo]

I agree with the other comments mode so far on this, you can't keep
track of ALL volumes.  There is one thing you can do to help some
though.  Instead of having just a batch of SCRATCH volumes, you
can assign emopty violumes to a specific STGPOOL with the DEF VOL
command.  I haven't used but I believe they won't go back to scratch
when empty and you may be able to query them with Q commands.

This would only be if you can reasonably know how many volumes are
needed for each of your SEQ STG POOLS.  You would still need some
as SCRATCH for DB BACKUPS, I don't think they can be assigned.

Just another thought.

David Longo

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/26/01 05:35AM >>>
Hi again Matthew ;)

The thing is that i'm not interested in the Storage pool volumes or volumes
in the library,...
I want to know ALL volumes.
Also the DB backups, the scratch tapes in the desk of the Media team, ...
Basicly every tape that has ever been labeled on that server.

How else do you know what label to give to a new tape ?
I know I've labeled tape ec0001 through eC0100, but if a colleague wants to
label ten more, how does he know they have to be ec0101 to ec0110 if q
vol,.. shows the highest volume in use, or the library to be ec0071 ?

Is there a way to do that ?

Stan






Matthew Large <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 25/07/2001 15:02:11

Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
cc:(bcc: Stan Vernaillen/BE/CCE)
Subject:  Re: Tape volume list ?



q volume shows all volumes known to the server - onsite or offsite.
q libv  displays all volumes inside the library.

-Original Message-
From: Stan Vernaillen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 25 July 2001 13:21
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Tape volume list ?


All,



Does anyone know of a way to have a list of all tape volumes known to the
  server?

I mean not only the tape volumes in the library , but also the ones stored
  offsite, on the scratch rack,...



The reason I'm asking is to know which numbers to use when labeling new
  tapes.

Using 3.7.4 on AIX



Any comments welcome,

Stan


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Oracle Question

[Thiha Than]

hi,

You can issue server sql commands to see the information you want.  The
commands will work for any kind of backup, not only for Oracle.

> select * from backups where node_name='your-nodename-in-cap-letters' AND
filespace_name='your-file-space-name-as-it-is'

another command:
> select * from contents where node_name='your-nodename-in-cap-letters'
AND filespace_name='your-file-space-name-as-it-is'

For example, if your nodename is test and filespace name is /adsmorc:

> select * from backups where node_name='TEST' AND
filespace_name='/adsmorc'

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Subject:  Oracle Question


We have oracle database on NT and TSM on AIX. Looking at the client node,
under FileSpace Name I find \adsmorc which does not show the size.  How
can
I find out how much is backed up?

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Re: Tape volume list ?

[David Longo]

Here a sample from my system - TSM server 3.7.4.0

tsm: ADSM>q media stg=*  f=d

   Volume Name: 016D14
 State: Mountable in library
Last Update Date/Time: 07/24/01   14:42:14
   Location: 
  Storage Pool Name: BKUPTAPE
Automated LibName: 3575LIB1
 Volume Status: Full
Access: Read-Only
  Last Reference Date: 07/25/01   21:48:57


David Longo

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/26/01 12:12PM >>>
On Wed, 25 Jul 2001, Richard Sims wrote:

> Stan - You may find  Query MEDia STGpool=* [Format=Detailed]
>to be of use.
>   Richard Sims, BU

What is that supposed to display? I just tried and got "No Match Found
using this criteria".



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Re: Tape volume list ?

[Richard Sims]

>> Stan - You may find  Query MEDia STGpool=* [Format=Detailed]
>>to be of use.
>>   Richard Sims, BU
>
>What is that supposed to display? I just tried and got "No Match Found
>using this criteria".

Francisco - This TSM server command should show all your storage pool volumes.
See the output samples in the Admin Ref manual.
Presuming that you have some storage pools, did you invoke it from an operating
system command line, perhaps, such that the '*' was implicitly expanded?

You can take advantage of commands you might not otherwise think of using, to
report on your resources.  For example, though you may not have the DRM
component installed, you can certainly use the Query DRMedia command as a
convenient way to display all your copy storage pool and dbbackup volumes.

  Richard Sims, BU

Copy storage pools

[Liberio, Nick (XEB)]

Hi all,

I am a newbie to all this and I am wondering if it is possilbe to create a
copy storage pool and have it write to optical media instead of
magnetic(tape).  The reason being is that I would like to have a backup set
of opticals that I would like to store offsite.

Any insight would be appreciated.



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Re: scratch volumes

[Richard Sims]

> TSM grabs the scratch tapes for the tape pools even though there are
> lots of tapes only partially full.

Watch out for Filling tapes frozen in that state by virtue of their
Access mode being other than Readwrite (because of tape I/O errors
or other causes).

Re: Tape volume list ?

[Francisco Reyes]

On Wed, 25 Jul 2001, Richard Sims wrote:

> Stan - You may find  Query MEDia STGpool=* [Format=Detailed]
>to be of use.
>   Richard Sims, BU

What is that supposed to display? I just tried and got "No Match Found
using this criteria".

Re: scratch volumes

[Francisco Reyes]

On Wed, 25 Jul 2001, Richard L. Rhodes wrote:

> We have TSM setup with several tape pools in our 3494.  The tape
> pools are collocated.  When we add scratch volumes to the library,
> TSM grabs the scratch tapes for the tape pools even though there are
> lots of tapes only partially full.

Look at the setting "Maximun Scratch Volumes Allowed".
>From the Web Gui it is under:
Server Storage
Storage Pools
Sequientrial Access Storage Pools

You then select the storage pool to which the 3494 belongs to and set the
number scratch tapes there.

>I understand this - it's the effect of collocation.

I am not sure this statement is correct.
Collocation attempts to keep data for a particular node either all in one
tape or all data for one file space in one tape. This is not directly
related to how many scratch tapes are used.

Re: !!!Novell Client Stability!!!!

[Jim Kirkman]

I would concur with Juergen, it's not so much the client code as it is the tsa
level. We've had good results with the tsa5up6 release as well.

Juergen Heinrich wrote:

> Hi Scott,
>
> our costumers do have the same environment as you and the netware TSM clients
> are stable.
>
> At the beginning we had problems with the backup of the NDS volume.
> The costumers NDS volume is very big and with the proposed versions of
>  the smdr.nlm, tsa500.nlm and tsands.nlm we had no success (the server has been
> crashed).
>
> After a look into the client  readme file in chapter "Novell NetWare Specific
> Known Problems"
> we have decided to use newer modules.
> Currently we are sucessfull using the tsa5up6 package from the novell web site
> and the tsm clients
> are working well.
>
> There is only one exception! Do not use compression, because the backup time
> increases much more
> than you can expect.
>
> Sincerly
>
> Juergen Heinrich
>
> Verdi Information Consult GmbH
> Systemsmanagement
> Niederlassung Berlin
> Wittestraße 30K
> D-13509 Berlin

--
Jim Kirkman
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UNC-Chapel Hill
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Re: export multiple nodes, but only import one?

[Matthew A. Bacchi]

Jack,

> This creates two questions.  If I export a dozen nodes to a tape,
>and then later someone needs data from node XYZ, can I stick the tape
>in and "IMPORT NODE XYZ DEVCLASS=8MM_CLASS" and it will ignore the
>other nodes?

In my experience this works exactly as you describe.  You can specify what 
node will be imported even though multiple nodes have been exported to one 
tape.

>EXPORT NODE A,B,CFILEDATA=ALL 8MM_CLASS SCRATCH=YES
>EXPORT NODE D FILESPACE=D1,D2,D3 FILEDATA=ALL 8MM_CLASS SCRATCH=YES
>
> Will this back it all up to the same tape and then allow me to
>put in the tape and import one specific node or filespace?

This scenario on the other hand is more of a stretch.  I don't know for sure 
if this will work as you expect.  The main reason for this, is that the two 
export commands might want to start from the beginning of the tape.  If you 
are interested in utilizing the tapes efficiently, you may want to approach 
this problem from a slightly different angle.
If you export your node data to a FILE device class, then tar all that data to 
your tapes(spanning tapes if necessary), you get the greatest efficiency and 
can later untar just what you desire before importing to TSM.  The only 
problem you may have is that your disk capacity is not enough to handle the 
exports from the TSM server.

Good luck.

-Matt

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Novell Netware v5 cluster - one volume of the set will not back u p

[Frost, Dave]

Hello *smers,

We are currently having a problem with backing up one particular volume out
of several in a Novell Netware v5 cluster; tsm client version 4.1.1.0, tsm
server version 4.1.3.0

We can backup all the other clustered volumes without any problem except for
the volume containing (and called) GROUPWISE.  When trying to backup this
volume, we get a tsa error message:
"tsa500-x-306 unable to open datastream, check user rights."
for every single file, along with an "ane4007e access denied" message echoed
to the tsm server - so many in fact that the server slows to a crawl, with
the actlog up to 20 minutes behind on its updating.

We do not think that this is a problem with user rights, since the backup
user can happily copy, rename and delete files on the GROUPWISE volume.  The
problem occurs for ALL files on the volume.  From the backup user, we have
also copied in files from another volume, and these in turn fail to backup.
Similarly, files copied by the backup user FROM the GROUPWISE volume to one
of the other volumes backup successfully.

This points to some adverse interaction between the tsa and the volume
definition, but we have been unable to track it down so far.

Has anybody seen this sort of thing? And what was the cure?

tia


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Re: Tape volume list ?

[Robin Sharpe]

>The thing is that i'm not interested in the Storage pool volumes or
volumes
>in the library,...
>I want to know ALL volumes.
>Also the DB backups, the scratch tapes in the desk of the Media team, ...
>Basicly every tape that has ever been labeled on that server.

>How else do you know what label to give to a new tape ?
>I know I've labeled tape ec0001 through eC0100, but if a colleague wants
to
>label ten more, how does he know they have to be ec0101 to ec0110 if q
>vol,.. shows the highest volume in use, or the library to be ec0071 ?

Stan,

Unfortunately, you've uncovered one the, u, "clumsy" parts of TSM.  The
way TSM manages scratch tapes, that is, tapes that are now empty and ready
to be re-used, is to not manage them at all!  What TSM does when a tape
becoms empty and is brought back onsite, is delete it from the volumes
table.  It will not be known to TSM again until it is checked into a
library as a scratch, and then it will be in the libvolumes table.
However, the volhistory table (do a "q volhist", the output may be large)
does keep a record of when the tape was used and deleted.  If the tape has
been re-used five times, there should be ten records in volhistory -- a
"STGNEW" and a "STGDELETE" for each use.  This table is also where TSM DB
backups and backupsets are managed (they do not belong to any storage pool,
and are not in the volumes table).

You also said you need to track the tapes in the drawer of your media
group... TSM cannot do that, you'll have to do it manually.  Those tapes
are the ones that were deleted when they came back from the vault, and will
not be seen again until they get checked in.  Ideally, in TSM, you should
check ALL tapes back into the library as soon as possible (maybe keep a
couple on hand in case you need to do a quick backup and have no
scratches).  This presumes of course that your library is large enough to
hold all of your tapes (ours isn't, so we're in process of upgrading to a
larger library).

As for knowing what label to allocate next, you'll have to manually track
that also.  As Matt said, I think most of us use pre-printed barcode
labels, and that is basically the "volser number tracking system".

Sorry I can't give any better advice... we've been down the same road,
trying to locate missing tapes.  They are a fact of life, I guess.  That's
what originally prompted me to write the qtapet Perl script.

Robin Sharpe
Berlex Laboratories

Re: Several WebSessions killing the Server

[Richard Sims]

>sometimes when I try an action over the Admin. Web client, several
>WebSessions are opened and can't be canceled. And the
>real problem is: these sessions kill my server, an OS/390 R10 TSM
>Server V 4.1, which starts using between 10 and 40% of the CPU.

Robert - See past discussions of this problem at www.adsm.org.
 Customers have reported it in conjunction with use of
Internet Explorer. Going to a higher level of IE resolved the problem
according to their reports.

Re: AIX TSM scheduler problem

[Richard Sims]

>TSM scheduler is started from inittab , backup of filesystems is running withou
>any problem. I prepared simple script for SAP backup - script do su to db admin
>account and starts adabas backup to TSM - but I receive rc=1 from scheduled
>event ( command ) in dsmsched.log . I tried to start dsmc sched in foreground
>and schedule runs OK . Is there some special setting for Korn scripts started
>from TSM scheduler ?

Petr - I think you need to post an illustration of what it is you are
   attempting.  General advice when starting a Unix process to run
in the background is to redirect Stdin, Stdout, and Stderr, like:
  someprogram > /dev/null 2>&1 < /dev/null  &
(or send Stdout and Stderr to a file, to see any msgs).
Be aware that inittab runs things under sh, not ksh.  See man page.

   Richard Sims, BU

Re: Several WebSessions killing the Server

[David McClelland]

Hi Guys,

Would persuading all Web Admin Client sessions to go via the TSM SWAP
(Secure Web Admin Proxy) prevent this from happening?

The clients would no longer be connecting directly to the TSM server - it's
really very simple to set up, and probably less of a risk than upgrading IE
on your client machines.

Rgds,

David McClelland
---
Tivoli Storage Management Team
IBM EMEA Technical Centre,
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>sometimes when I try an action over the Admin. Web client, several
>WebSessions are opened and can't be canceled. And the
>real problem is: these sessions kill my server, an OS/390 R10 TSM
>Server V 4.1, which starts using between 10 and 40% of the CPU.

Robert - See past discussions of this problem at www.adsm.org.
 Customers have reported it in conjunction with use of
Internet Explorer. Going to a higher level of IE resolved the problem
according to their reports.

Several WebSessions killing the Server

[Robert Fijan]

Hi.

I've got the following problem:


sometimes when I try an action over the Admin. Web client, several
WebSessions are opened and can't be canceled. And the
real problem is: these sessions kill my server, an OS/390 R10 TSM Server V
4.1, which starts using between 10 and 40% of the CPU.

The only way to come out is to stop and restart the TSM-Server.

Can anyone tell me what the problem is.

Here is the errormessage from the log:


ANR2017I Administrator V230033 issued command: CANCEL SESSION 1389
ANRD OUTINIT(704): Invalid stream descriptor in outCancelStream().


Mit freundlichen Grüßen
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Re: TDP for Domino

[Brian L. Nick]

Del,

 Thanks for the info. I had asked my Domino admin if they could look up the
error but they did not. I will readdress this issue with them.
Unfortunately I am not sure when we will be able to re-boot this server as
it is a production replication server.

 Thanks again for the information.

 Brian




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>
>'ACD5130E Could not initialize the connection to Lotus Domino properly.
>error=416'
>
> The Lotus Domino folks ensure me that they have not changed anything and
I
>have not touched TDP since last week, our backups were working fine until
>22:00 on Monday night.
>
> Does anyone have any hints for me that might address this issue?
>

Brian,

I just looked up error 416 in the Lotus API documentation.
It says:

   "Too many concurrent users of the Notes API package."

Are there other applications running against the
Domino server? It could be that some of the sessions
are not getting cleaned up.
There might be some way to find out who owns all
of the current "connections" to the Domino Server.
Maybe your Domino admin will know.
Stopping and restarting your Domino server will
probably do the trick... If it happens again,
we should see if we have sessions being created
by some application and not letting go.

Thanks,

Del



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Re: Tape volume list ?

[Richard Sims]

>How else do you know what label to give to a new tape ?

I think most of us order barcode labels, and simply keep track of
the range numbers in each bundle.  No need to query the inventory
of tapes.

Re: Tape volume list ?

[Stan Vernaillen]

Hi again Matthew ;)

The thing is that i'm not interested in the Storage pool volumes or volumes
in the library,...
I want to know ALL volumes.
Also the DB backups, the scratch tapes in the desk of the Media team, ...
Basicly every tape that has ever been labeled on that server.

How else do you know what label to give to a new tape ?
I know I've labeled tape ec0001 through eC0100, but if a colleague wants to
label ten more, how does he know they have to be ec0101 to ec0110 if q
vol,.. shows the highest volume in use, or the library to be ec0071 ?

Is there a way to do that ?

Stan






Matthew Large <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 25/07/2001 15:02:11

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Subject:  Re: Tape volume list ?



q volume shows all volumes known to the server - onsite or offsite.
q libv  displays all volumes inside the library.

-Original Message-
From: Stan Vernaillen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 25 July 2001 13:21
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Tape volume list ?


All,



Does anyone know of a way to have a list of all tape volumes known to the
  server?

I mean not only the tape volumes in the library , but also the ones stored
  offsite, on the scratch rack,...



The reason I'm asking is to know which numbers to use when labeling new
  tapes.

Using 3.7.4 on AIX



Any comments welcome,

Stan


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Re: Tracing a Restore

[Matthew Large]

With ALL the traceflags active you will inevitably get a large file.
Depending on your problem, and your knowledge of trace reading, limiting
your output file to what you need is best.
why are you tracing? WHAT are you tracing? I might be able to suggest some
more effective flags.

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I'm having a problem tracing a restore, I've placed the following line in
my dsm.opt file..

traceflags all
tracefile d:\ibm\adsm\trace.out

The output file from the trace however is 4GB!  I'm tracing one particular
restore because I get an error when applying transaction logs, I've also
tried the trace with the traceflag set to 'error' but this provides me with
no output?


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AIX TSM scheduler problem

[Petr Přerost]

Dear *SMers ,
I am unable to solve problem with TSM scheduler on AIX - I have to say I am
far from AIX expert.

My configuration is following : TSM server 4.1.3.2 on AIX 4.3.3
   TSM client 4.1.2 on AIX 4.3.3
with SAP on Adabas.

TSM scheduler is started from inittab , backup of filesystems is running
withou any problem. I prepared simple script for SAP backup - script do su
to db admin
account and starts adabas backup to TSM - but I receive rc=1 from
scheduled event ( command ) in dsmsched.log . I tried to start dsmc sched in
foreground and schedule runs OK . Is there some special setting for Korn
scripts started from TSM scheduler ?  Where can I find rc from Korn shell on
AIX ?
I tried to redirect output from dsmc sched in inittab to file - but there is
no additional information , I add some ls commands to script and script runs
them correctly and ends on su  .


Thank you for any idea

Petr Prerost
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Re: Backup Failure with USER ABORT

[ML FB6 - Tivoli Storage Manager]

Hello *SMers,

the problem has mysteriously disappeared. I have no explanation because i
did not change anything.

Volker

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Hi Volker,

look at this:
* IC29845 Client terminates the backup if it tries to back up a drive it
*
* can not access (such as the Microsoft Exchange Installable
*
* File System).  

I found it in the readme1st file of the TSM client version 4.1.2.17. Maybe
this is the error that makes the client to terminate the backup.

Otherwise should the error you described be fixed in version 4.1.2.12 (look
at the IC no. of the readme1st):

* IC29368 ERRONEOUS 'USER ABORT' ANS1074I OR ANS5011I
*
* DURING BACKUP. 

I would try to update the TSM client with version 4.1.2.19 or 4.2 (I use
many 4.1.2.19 and a 4.2 on my machine and they are working very well!) and
run the backup again.

Many greetings

Thomas Anthon-Kiel
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WISEhouse Denmark A/S


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Emne: Backup Failure with USER ABORT


Hello *SMers,

a few days ago our daily incremental backup on one of our NT clients started
to abort. Only 1/5 of the data objects is backed up. The backup process
terminates somewhere in the middle with a user abort. This can only be seen
in the event log of the NT client. The event log entry is 4099
AdsmClientService, ANS1074I *** User Abort ***.
The actlog on the TSM server shows a corresponding ANR2579E schedule failed
with return code 4.

Enironment Info:
TSM Server 4.1.2.1 on NT4, SP5
TSM Client 4.1.2.12 on NT4, SP5

Any ideas ?

With kindest regards

Volker


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Tracing a Restore

[Marc Lowers]

I'm having a problem tracing a restore, I've placed the following line in
my dsm.opt file..

traceflags all
tracefile d:\ibm\adsm\trace.out

The output file from the trace however is 4GB!  I'm tracing one particular
restore because I get an error when applying transaction logs, I've also
tried the trace with the traceflag set to 'error' but this provides me with
no output?