Re: Thoughts on really old clients and newer servers...

2001-08-03 Thread Sheelagh Treweek

This is a big problem for us at Oxford and we are pretty cautious
in our approach to rolling out new client software.

There is a clear case to use the latest client code when there for
new platform support.  It is much less clear that persuading people
who are happy and working well on the old version that life will be
better if they use new code.

It has been our experience that new is not always better ...

An example (I am almost, but not quite ashamed to admit) is that on
my Solaris workstation I am using 3.1.0.7.  A great vintage and it
is working well will TSM 4.1 server.  Ian (my nice colleague) has a
brand new Solaris workstation and is running a 4.1 flavour - sadly,
his scheduler has died several times in the last two weeks with no
clues.  A recent PMR has highlighted that common code in one of the
4.1 versions (we saw the problem first at AIX) has memory leaks.

It is difficult.  What we really need to know is why the 3.1 client
(or even earlier) is not actually going to work with later server
versions?  And is this really true for all older platforms?  As well,
not all our users can afford new kit, new versions of OS and gain a
natural opportunity to upgrade to the latest TSM.

Another issue I am not very comfortable with is releasing client code
which is more in advance than the server code - again, the technical
issues relating to this would be appreciated.  What policy do others
have on this?

Regards, Sheelagh
--
Sheelagh Treweek
Oxford University Computing Services
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3rd copy of dbvol on other Volumegroup

2001-08-03 Thread Pothula S Paparao

Hi all,
Im having 2 dbvolume copies on same VG called tsmvg. Im intrsted in keeping
the third copy of the DBvol in rootvg instead in TSMvg . My view in this is
to recover latest dbvolume from rootvg incase of  TSMvg corruption.
Can i keep 3rd copy on rootvg. if so, please let me know the steps involed.

Help in this regard is highly appriciated.
THanks and regards
sreekumar.



SV: TSM Win2K 4.2.0 client scheduler problems

2001-08-03 Thread Henrik Bach Gravesen

I have the excact same experience - and have found no other solution than to
go back to TSM v4.1 lev. 2.19. Then the problem was gone.

Server: TSM v4.1 lev 1.0 on OS/390
Client: Windows NT 4.0, SP6

Henrik Bach Gravesen
Jyske Bank A/S, Denmark
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


 A user of mine is using the TSM Win2K 4.2.0 client acceptor
 service to manage
 the client scheduler.  The acceptor service wakes the
 scheduler every 12 hours
 and starts the scheduled backup with no problems.  All is well except
 that she is getting the error code 4099 in the application
 event log every time
 the scheduler wakes up (every 12 hours).  In dsmerrorlog,
SessOpen: Error 137 from signon authentication   (3 times)

 Password is set to generate.  GUI, command line, and
 scheduled backups all
 run fine.  The user is not prompted for the password.  So
 there must not be
 any authenication problems and the password is stored in the registry.

 Has anyone seen this with their W2K 4.2.0 clients?  Is this
 normal behavior?

 server - TSM 4.1.3 on AIX 4.3.3
 client - Windows 2000 4.2.0

 Thanks in advance,
 Eliza Lau
 Virginia Tech Computing Center
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 540-231-9399




Antwort: Stop/Restart Scheduler on NT Client

2001-08-03 Thread Juergen Heinrich

Hi,

please try the following
1. create a script for all your NT clients

Script example:

@echo off
REM TSM Client Scheduler Restart script
REM --
REM File location:   C:\tsm\baclient
REM File name:  schedrestart.cmd
REM Location of log file: C:\tsm\baclient
REM Log file name:   schedrestart.log
REM --
echo *** BEGIN TSM Client Scheduler restart *** 1
C:\tsm\baclient\schedrestart.log 21
date /t 1 C:\tsm\baclient\schedrestart.log 21
time /t 1 C:\tsm\baclient\schedrestart.log 21
net stop TSM Client Scheduler 1 C:\tsm\baclient\schedrestart.log 21
net start TSM Client Scheduler 1 C:\tsm\baclient\schedrestart.log 21
echo *** END   TSM Client Scheduler restart *** 1
C:\tsm\baclient\schedrestart.log 21

2. copy this script to all your TSM Clients

3.  create a client scheduler script with a command and expiration date

Scheduler example:
def sched domain NT_sched_restart Type=Client desc=NT TSM Client Scheduler
Restart action=command objects=C:\tsm\baclient\schedrestart.cmd
startd=08/15/01 startt=07:00:00 expiration=08/15/01

4. associate your  NT clients with the scheduler

def assoc domain NT_sched_restart NTClient1,NTClient2, ...

Sincerly

Juergen Heinrich

Verdi Information Consult GmbH
Systemsmanagement
Niederlassung Berlin
Wittestraße 30K
D-13509 Berlin
http://www.verdi-ag.de



Re: Recovery Log size / roll forward benefits

2001-08-03 Thread Sheelagh Treweek

I agree with Paul, it is pretty rare - but it can happen.  You can't
guarantee to prevent software or hardware corruption : you just have
to plan the recovery path ...

The last corruption I had was on a (pretty large) test DB when trying
to see the impact of a problem I had at 3.7 (live) on the 4.1 (test)
DB.  Well, the 4.1 DB got corrupted, the server crashed and it wouldn't
restart - I won't bore you with the details.  The point is, I was able
to recover the DB using the last FULL, INCRs and recovery log.  This
level of protection is essential for us.

Like Paul, we have also had problems with the recovery log filling up
too quickly (as well as the occasional 'pinned' logtail).  Recently,
we have escaped by the skin of our teeth when the recovery log hit 99%
and the triggered INCR could not complete fast enough ( - trigger now
lowered and we split expire inventory into a twice weekly run).  I too
have reservations about the 13GB log (although we certainly intend to
use it) and I have been looking at timings for triggered INCRs; 13GB
may take rather a long time ...

Regards, Sheelagh
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Oxford University Computing Services
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Re: Missing Message-text

2001-08-03 Thread Ramboux, Jean-Claude

Hello,
Check if the fileset tivoli.tsm.msg.en_US.server is as the same level than
the fileset tivoli.tsm.server.*.

Regards.

-Original Message-
From: Christoph Pilgram
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Sent: vendredi 3 août 2001 14:51
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Missing Message-text


Hy all,

on our TSM-Server this message appears in the act-log everytime a tape could
not be checked in into the library.
We have just upgraded to Version 4.14 on an AIX 4.33-Server.

Does anybody know, how to get the full-text for this message-number ?

 Message number 8376 not available for language EN_US 

Thanks
Christoph



Re: Question on Novell Problems

2001-08-03 Thread Alan Davenport

4.11 SP6 or 4.2 original release as per my network folks.

-=-Original Message-
-=
-=
-=What Service Pack Level are your NW Servers ?
-=
-=__
-=
-=Regards
-=
-=Dave Clifford
-=
-=
-=
-= [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/08/01 13:38:42 
-=I posted this the other day but I have not seen a response. Here is a
-=repost. Can anyone help?
-=
-=+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+
-=
-=Hello, I have been experiencing a couple problems with our Novell clients
-=that I'm wondering if you experts can help me with. First, my
-=environment is
-=Server: OS/390 4.1.0.0, Novell v4.2 and Novell Client 4.1.2.13.
-=
-=Problem number one deals with the schedule log. DSMC SCHED is constantly
-=getting locked out of its log file (DSMSCHED.LOG). The file is locked and
-=DSMC is unable to write to it. The error received is:
-=
-=ANS0118C LogSchedMsg: Unable to open schedule log file '(path and name of
-=file)' for output.
-=
-=Quitting the scheduling service then restarting it cures the problem but
-=only for a while. Eventually on ALL of our Novell servers the
-=schedule log
-=file gets locked and the above error is displayed on the console.
-=
-=The second problem is in reference to DSMC SCHED not releasing
-=all resources
-=when the NLM is quit. This only occurs when problem #1 above occurs. The
-=following error messages are displayed:
-=
-=Threads-4.11-076 DSMC.NLM filed to close handle 18.
-=Contact the supplier of the NLM.
-=Threads-4.11-076 DSMC.NLM filed to close handle 19.
-=Contact the supplier of the NLM.
-=
-=08-01-01 9:26.52 am:  SERVER-04.11.2715
-=   Module did not release 480 resources
-=   Module: Tivoli Distributed Storage Manager
-=   Resource: Small Memory Allocations
-=   Description: Alloc Memory (Bytes)
-=
-=Can anyone offer any advice on a possible cure for these problems?
-=
-=Thank you!
-=Alan Davenport
-=Selective Insurance
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Re: Server Down

2001-08-03 Thread PINNI, BALANAND (SBCSI)

I had this problem first I used dsmfmt to create log
and then extended log from dsmserv.
PL go to adsm.org and search for log .U will get many mails archives.

-Original Message-
From: Cook, Dwight E [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 7:05 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Server Down


I don't know if this is available to 3.1 or if it came about in 3.7 but
DSMSERV EXTEND LOG (Emergency Log Extension)
Use this command to extend the size of the recovery log when you need
additional log
space to restart the server. After the server is running, you can do the
following:
v Back up the database, which frees the recovery log space.
v Adjust the size of the recovery log, the database backup trigger full
percentage, or
both to allow for successful future database backups.
Note: Use the DSMFMT utility to format a new recovery log volume.
Syntax
 DSMSERV EXTEND LOG volume_name megabytes

-Original Message-
From: Phil Stockton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 2:16 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Server Down


Hi,

Im running ADSM 3.1.2.90 on AIX 4.3.2 ona RS6000 H70

Overnight the log became full.  I ran a dsmfmt to assign another log file
and then dsmserv to extend it.

When I try to bring up the server it falls over.  Bringing it up in single
user mode via ./dsmserv I get the following message

ANRD logsec.c(498) log space has been overcommited (no empty segment
found) base LSN =358650.0.0
Server operation terminated.

Anyone got any ideas ?

Regards

Phil Stockton
RS Components


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Re: vaulting problem

2001-08-03 Thread Nicholas Cassimatis

Yes, you should feel comfortable with your vendor, but don't.  The worst
time to find out your inventory is off is when you are trying to recover
from a disaster.  I highly recommend (and this is from experience) that you
audit your vault at least twice a year.  Even with all the safeguards,
problems can happen.

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Today is the tomorrow of yesterday.



Re: vaulting problem

2001-08-03 Thread Robin Sharpe

We will be assigned a range of slots.  We tell them what tapes to put in
what slots, so it's under our control -- but we also have to keep track.

I suppose it would be possible to write a basic script to manage that.  It
would have to keep its own database of course (although probably a single
flat file would work).  Check out Autovault... it may handle that for you
(for a price).

Speaking of bad vault vendors,  the one we had a couple of years ago (who
shall remain nameless) when we first started using ADSM, actually placed
their own hand-written gummed labels over our barcodes!  I mean, how dumb
is that?

Needless to say, we have taken our business elsewhere... to Vital Records
Inc., who I can highly recommend.

Robin Sharpe
Berlex Laboratories



Re: Server Down

2001-08-03 Thread Cook, Dwight E

I don't know if this is available to 3.1 or if it came about in 3.7 but
DSMSERV EXTEND LOG (Emergency Log Extension)
Use this command to extend the size of the recovery log when you need
additional log
space to restart the server. After the server is running, you can do the
following:
v Back up the database, which frees the recovery log space.
v Adjust the size of the recovery log, the database backup trigger full
percentage, or
both to allow for successful future database backups.
Note: Use the DSMFMT utility to format a new recovery log volume.
Syntax
 DSMSERV EXTEND LOG volume_name megabytes

-Original Message-
From: Phil Stockton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 2:16 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Server Down


Hi,

Im running ADSM 3.1.2.90 on AIX 4.3.2 ona RS6000 H70

Overnight the log became full.  I ran a dsmfmt to assign another log file
and then dsmserv to extend it.

When I try to bring up the server it falls over.  Bringing it up in single
user mode via ./dsmserv I get the following message

ANRD logsec.c(498) log space has been overcommited (no empty segment
found) base LSN =358650.0.0
Server operation terminated.

Anyone got any ideas ?

Regards

Phil Stockton
RS Components


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Question on Novell Problems

2001-08-03 Thread Alan Davenport

I posted this the other day but I have not seen a response. Here is a
repost. Can anyone help?

+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+

Hello, I have been experiencing a couple problems with our Novell clients
that I'm wondering if you experts can help me with. First, my environment is
Server: OS/390 4.1.0.0, Novell v4.2 and Novell Client 4.1.2.13.

Problem number one deals with the schedule log. DSMC SCHED is constantly
getting locked out of its log file (DSMSCHED.LOG). The file is locked and
DSMC is unable to write to it. The error received is:

ANS0118C LogSchedMsg: Unable to open schedule log file '(path and name of
file)' for output.

Quitting the scheduling service then restarting it cures the problem but
only for a while. Eventually on ALL of our Novell servers the schedule log
file gets locked and the above error is displayed on the console.

The second problem is in reference to DSMC SCHED not releasing all resources
when the NLM is quit. This only occurs when problem #1 above occurs. The
following error messages are displayed:

Threads-4.11-076 DSMC.NLM filed to close handle 18.
Contact the supplier of the NLM.
Threads-4.11-076 DSMC.NLM filed to close handle 19.
Contact the supplier of the NLM.

08-01-01 9:26.52 am:  SERVER-04.11.2715
   Module did not release 480 resources
   Module: Tivoli Distributed Storage Manager
   Resource: Small Memory Allocations
   Description: Alloc Memory (Bytes)

Can anyone offer any advice on a possible cure for these problems?

Thank you!
Alan Davenport
Selective Insurance
973-948-1306
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Missing Message-text

2001-08-03 Thread Christoph Pilgram

Hy all,

on our TSM-Server this message appears in the act-log everytime a tape could
not be checked in into the library.
We have just upgraded to Version 4.14 on an AIX 4.33-Server.

Does anybody know, how to get the full-text for this message-number ?

 Message number 8376 not available for language EN_US 

Thanks
Christoph



Re: Question on Novell Problems

2001-08-03 Thread David Clifford

What Service Pack Level are your NW Servers ?

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I posted this the other day but I have not seen a response. Here is a
repost. Can anyone help?

+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+

Hello, I have been experiencing a couple problems with our Novell clients
that I'm wondering if you experts can help me with. First, my environment is
Server: OS/390 4.1.0.0, Novell v4.2 and Novell Client 4.1.2.13.

Problem number one deals with the schedule log. DSMC SCHED is constantly
getting locked out of its log file (DSMSCHED.LOG). The file is locked and
DSMC is unable to write to it. The error received is:

ANS0118C LogSchedMsg: Unable to open schedule log file '(path and name of
file)' for output.

Quitting the scheduling service then restarting it cures the problem but
only for a while. Eventually on ALL of our Novell servers the schedule log
file gets locked and the above error is displayed on the console.

The second problem is in reference to DSMC SCHED not releasing all resources
when the NLM is quit. This only occurs when problem #1 above occurs. The
following error messages are displayed:

Threads-4.11-076 DSMC.NLM filed to close handle 18.
Contact the supplier of the NLM.
Threads-4.11-076 DSMC.NLM filed to close handle 19.
Contact the supplier of the NLM.

08-01-01 9:26.52 am:  SERVER-04.11.2715
   Module did not release 480 resources
   Module: Tivoli Distributed Storage Manager
   Resource: Small Memory Allocations
   Description: Alloc Memory (Bytes)

Can anyone offer any advice on a possible cure for these problems?

Thank you!
Alan Davenport
Selective Insurance
973-948-1306
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Latest LTO firmware levels ?

2001-08-03 Thread Othonas Xixis

Hi,
does anyone know the latest firmware levels for the 3584 LTO library, and
3580 LTO drives ?
My tape drives are at version: 16E0 ,
and my 3584 is at version: 1450 .

Pls adv.

Brgds,
Othonas Xixis



Re: vaulting problem

2001-08-03 Thread Alex Paschal

Here's a little bit of code to get you started.

Alex

#!/bin/ksh
#
#   This is a simple script to process vault slotting for ADSM DR Media
#   The slot file has to be generated first, and looks something like
#
#   A001   -Empty
#   A002   -Empty
#
#

#set -x

function usage {
   print
   print usage:  vault [-r|-v] file1 file2
   print usage:  vault [-o|-e] file2
   print usage:  vault [-s] string file2
   print
   print -- -r return from vault
   print -- -v send to vault
   print -- -o print contents of slots
   print -- -c free slot count
   print -- -s search slots for a string
   print -- -e edit the slot list
   print string search string
   print file1  filename of the list of tapes to send or return
   print file2  filename of the list of slots
}

function unslot_tapes {
   tapes=$1
   slots=$2
   grep -f $tapes $slots | awk '{print $1 -Empty}'  slots.empty
   grep -vf $tapes $slots  slots.unchanged
   cat slots.empty  slots.unchanged
   awk '{print $1}' slots.empty  tmp3.$$
   grep -f tmp3.$$ $slots
   rm tmp3.$$
   sort +0 -1 slots.unchanged  $slots
   rm slots.unchanged
}

function slot_tapes {
   tapes=$1
   slots=$2
   grep -f $tapes $slots  slots.vaulted
   awk '{print $2}' slots.vaulted  tmp.$$
   grep -vf tmp.$$ $tapes  tapes.2
   grep -vf tmp.$$ $slots  tmp2.$$
   cat tmp2.$$  $slots
   rm tmp2.$$
   rm tmp.$$
   exec 3 tapes.2
   grep \-Empty $slots | awk '{print $1}' | while read slotnum; do
  if read -u3 volume; then
 print $slotnum $volume `date +%m/%d/%y`  slots.vaulted
  else
 break;
  fi
   done
   awk '{print $1}' slots.vaulted  tmp.$$
   grep -vf tmp.$$ $slots  slots.unchanged
   rm tmp.$$
   cat slots.vaulted  slots.unchanged
   sort +0 -1 slots.unchanged  $slots
   rm tapes.2 slots.unchanged
   cat slots.vaulted
}

if [[ ! $# -gt 1 ]]; then
   usage
   return 1
elif [[ $1 = -c ]]; then
   if [[ ! -s $2 ]]; then print unable to open file $2; return 1; fi
   grep -c \-Empty $2
elif [[ $1 = -o ]]; then
   if [[ ! -s $2 ]]; then print unable to open file $2; return 1; fi
   grep -v \-Empty $2 2/dev/null
elif [[ $1 = -e ]]; then
   if [[ ! -s $2 ]]; then print unable to open file $2; return 1; fi
   vi $2
elif [[ ! $# -eq 3 ]]; then
   usage
   return 1
elif [[ $1 = -s ]]; then
   if [[ ! -s $3 ]]; then print unable to open file $3; return 1; fi
   grep $2 $3 2/dev/null
   if [[ ! $? -eq 0 ]]; then
  print Unable to find pattern
  return 1
   fi
elif [[ ! ( -s $2  -s $3 ) ]]; then
   print one of the files, $2 or $3, doesn\'t exist.
   return 1
elif [[ $1 = -r ]]; then
   unslot_tapes $2 $3
elif [[ $1 = -v ]]; then
   slot_tapes $2 $3
fi

-Original Message-
From: Adam J. Boyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 2:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: vaulting problem


We will be assigned a range of slots.  We tell them what tapes to put in
what slots, so it's under our control -- but we also have to keep track.




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Re: Latest LTO firmware levels ?

2001-08-03 Thread Rick Pruitt

The latest 3584 firmware is 1450.





The latest 3580 firmware is 16E0.





Rick Pruitt
Distributed Storage Management
IBM Global Services, KY

``Most human beings have an almost infinite capacity for taking things for
granted.'' - Aldous Huxley


Othonas Xixis/Raleigh/Contr/IBM@[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 08/03/2001 01:09:59
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Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Hi,
does anyone know the latest firmware levels for the 3584 LTO library, and
3580 LTO drives ?
My tape drives are at version: 16E0 ,
and my 3584 is at version: 1450 .

Pls adv.

Brgds,
Othonas Xixis



bufpoolsize and AIX

2001-08-03 Thread Richard L. Rhodes

Our bufpool hit ratio has been running in the mid 90% and I would
like to increase it's size.  Currently, it's set to:

   dsmserv.opt: BUFPoolsize 1048576

Our tsm server is a hand-me-down with lots of memory - 12GB.  I
decided to double the bufpoolsize parm to 2048576.  When I tried to
start tsm it complained that it couldn't acquire this memory and
failed to start.  I tried to set it to just a few hundred mb more,
but had the same result.  I finally just put it back to the origional
value and got our server up and running.

The doc states that the limit on the bufpoolsize parm is the size of
your virtual memory.  I'm well under that!

Any idea what limit I might be hitting?  I think I must be hitting an
AIX (4.3.3) limit of some kind.


Thanks

Rick



Re: copypools using tsm server to server

2001-08-03 Thread Cook, Dwight E

1) well, this is why I set up a domain just for remote servers, they have no
backup copy group and their archive copy group has a default of never
expiring archives.  (I'm big on covering my a$$)
2) IT is always nice to easily see just what in the heck is going on
utilization wise with a remote server,  by sticking it into an isolated
storage pool, it is real easy to look at things.

additional question answer... to delete a filespace of a source server over
on the target server you can't get away with just
del file other_server_node
you are forced to use
del file other_server_node TYPE=SERVER
it is just a CYA in TSM... (which I like ! )
If that is part of a def that you still are having problems with...
I've found it is possible to clean up everything on either end no matter
what order things were deleted/removed
You just have to get the specific commands right with the specific
options...
more along the lines of having to specify type=server with a del file,
that sort of stuff
but I've had some pretty UGLY situations and I've been able to clear them
all up...
also remember there are volumereusedelays you might have to wait on once
you purge data from tapes  the such...
Oh, and I'm at TSM Srv 3.7 currently.

hope this helps
later,
Dwight


-Original Message-
From: Steve Bennett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 1:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: copypools using tsm server to server


Fellow *SMers,

I have two TSM 4.1.3 servers in different cities and would like to use
themn each for offsite storage for the other. Bandwidth considerations
aside I have some other questions based upon things I have read in the
server to server redbook.
This can get a bit convoluted so get ready to wade through my verbage.

1) The book indicates that the virtual vols on the target server are
only deleted at the request of the source server and at no time will the
archive retention of the target server management class cause the
virtual vol archive to be deleted. Have any of you verified this?

2) I would like to have server-1 backup it's primary stgpools to target
server-2 and vice versa. Given that all primary pools for server-1
reside on server-1 is there any reason I shouldn't let the copypool data
from source server-1 comingle with the data in the primary stgpools on
target server-2?

One additional question that might be related to #1 is that at one time
I had some server to server virtual vols defined for primary pool
migration. That has since been abandoned and some of the server to
server and node defs deleted. However there are some parts of the defs
that I cannot delete because it says there are still inventory
references, in particular the other server def. I suspect that because
part of the defs were already deleted there is no way for the source
server to tell the target server to delete the archives and when I try
to do it manually it slaps my hand. Is there any way to delete those
inventory references so I can delete the other server def?

TIA

--

Steve Bennett, (907) 465-5783
State of Alaska, Information Technology Group, Technical Services
Section



Help please, how to format log and db with adsm 3.1 under OS/390

2001-08-03 Thread Lambelet,Rene,VEVEY,GL-IS/CIS

Hello,
under OS/390, I have to format 1 log data set and 10 db data sets. The total
length of all these names is more than 100 caracters. How can I give such a
long string of caracters on the EXEC card, the OS/390 refuses it  when
exceeding 100 car.?

FORMAT 1 ADSM.RCVRYLO1 10 ADSM.DB1 ADSM.DB2 . ADSM.DB10'

Is it possible to extend this limit or use a DD card ?

Thanks for any help

René Lambelet
Nestec S.A. / Informatique du Centre 
55, av. Nestlé  CH-1800 Vevey (Switzerland) 
*+41'21'924'35'43  7+41'21'924'28'88  * K4-117
email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Transfer Rate

2001-08-03 Thread Prather, Wanda

No, you have to turn it on.
Run a Q STATUS command; one of the lines show ACCOUNTING either ON or OFF.
To turn it on, just enter:  SET ACCOUNTING ON

It will stay on across any server restarts, until you turn it off.
We have a script that runs every month that copies the dsmaccnt.log file
elsewhere (or you could archive it) then clears it.
You will want to do something similar so the file won't grow forever.

The dsmaccnt.log file is a simple comma-delimited format; the fields are
described in the admin guide.



-Original Message-
From: Francisco Reyes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 5:13 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Transfer Rate


On Thu, 2 Aug 2001, Lindsay Morris wrote:
 If you really want to speed up your backups, you need to
 look at the accounting log records (.../server/bin/dsmaccnt.log - see
admin
 guide for layout)
 to see which of your clients suffer most from idle wait, media wait, or
comm
 wait.

Is this accounting file created by default? I don't see one in my bin
directory.



Re: Help please, how to format log and db with adsm 3.1 under OS/ 390

2001-08-03 Thread Lambelet,Rene,VEVEY,GL-IS/CIS

exactly what I needed !

thanks a  lot

René Lambelet
Nestec S.A. / Informatique du Centre 
55, av. Nestlé  CH-1800 Vevey (Switzerland) 
*+41'21'924'35'43  7+41'21'924'28'88  * K4-117
email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 -Original Message-
 From: Bill Colwell [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 11:12 PM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: Help please, how to format log and db with adsm 3.1
 under OS/390
 
 Rene,
 
 Use the indirect list-of-names method as in the sample below.
 
 Hope this help,
 
 
 -- 
 --
 Bill Colwell
 C. S. Draper Lab
 Cambridge, Ma.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 --
 
 --- begin sample ---
 // --- job card -- 
 //*- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
 
 //*
 
 //* FORMAT THE LOG PRIOR TO A LOADDB JOB.
 
 //*
 
 //*- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
 
 //SERVER   EXEC PGM=ANRSERV,
 
 // PARM='/FORMAT 1 FILE:DD:LN 16 FILE:DD:DN',
 
 // DYNAMNBR=300
 
 //* - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
 
 //* FOR TSM 3.7.40
 
 //* - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
 
 //STEPLIB  DD  DSN=ADSM.V3R7M40.LINKLIB,DISP=SHR
 
 //IMAGES   DD  DSN=ADSM.V3R7M40.SANRIMG(ADSMSERV),DISP=SHR
 
 //DSMAMENG DD  DSN=ADSM.V3R7M40.SANRMSG(ANRMENU),DISP=SHR
 
 //HLPAMENG DD  DSN=ADSM.V3R7M40.SANRHLP(ANRHENU),DISP=SHR
 
 //* - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
 
 //* PERMANENT FILES
 
 //* - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
 
 //OPT  DD  DSN=ADSM.V3R7.PROD.OLDSERVR.OPTIONS,DISP=SHR,FREE=CLOSE
 
 //DSK  DD  DSN=ADSM.PRODGA.DISKLOG3,DISP=SHR
 
 //SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
 
 //SYSTERM  DD  SYSOUT=*
 
 //LN   DD *
 
 ADSM.PROD.RLA.AL100F
 
 //DN   DD *
 
 ADSM.PROD.DB.AD101F
 
 ADSM.PROD.DB.AD102F
 
 ADSM.PROD.DB.AD103F
 
 ADSM.PROD.DB.AD104F
 
 ADSM.PROD.DB.AD105F
 
 ADSM.PROD.DB.AD106F
 
 ADSM.PROD.DB.AD107F
 
 ADSM.PROD.DB.AD108F
 
 ADSM.PROD.DB.AD121F
 
 ADSM.PROD.DB.AD122F
 
 ADSM.PROD.DB.AD123F
 
 ADSM.PROD.DB.AD124F
 
 ADSM.PROD.DB.AD125F
 
 ADSM.PROD.DB.AD126F
 
 ADSM.PROD.DB.AD127F
 
 ADSM.PROD.DB.AD128F
 
 
 --- end sample ---
 
 In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on
 08/03/01 
at 05:11 PM, Lambelet,Rene,VEVEY,GL-IS/CIS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 said:
 
 Hello,
 under OS/390, I have to format 1 log data set and 10 db data sets. The
 total
 length of all these names is more than 100 caracters. How can I give such
 a
 long string of caracters on the EXEC card, the OS/390 refuses it  when
 exceeding 100 car.?
 
 FORMAT 1 ADSM.RCVRYLO1 10 ADSM.DB1 ADSM.DB2 . ADSM.DB10'
 
 Is it possible to extend this limit or use a DD card ?
 
 Thanks for any help
 
 René Lambelet
 Nestec S.A. / Informatique du Centre 
 55, av. Nestlé  CH-1800 Vevey (Switzerland) 
 *+41'21'924'35'43  7+41'21'924'28'88  * K4-117
 email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Visit our site: http://www.nestle.com
 
 This message is intended only for the use of the addressee and 
 may contain information that is privileged and confidential.



TSm and Frame Relay Network?

2001-08-03 Thread Prather, Wanda

Any body out there doing some backups over Frame Relay that would be willing
to answer a few questions?
We have a customer that is planning to do it with some NT clients and is a
little nervous.

Are you doing it?
Approx. how many clients?
About how much data per day?

Any major problems other than the obvious issue that speed is slower than
for local backups?



Re: Help please, how to format log and db with adsm 3.1 under OS/390

2001-08-03 Thread John Erik Svendsen

Hi René,

Use pgm=DSMFMT instead - one step per dataset:

example:

//*   pre-format ADSM.DB6
//FMTDB6   EXEC PGM=DSMFMT,DYNAMNBR=300,
// PARM='/SYS3.ADSM.DB6'
//DSMAMENG  DD  DSN=SYS1.SANRMSG(ANRMENU),DISP=SHR
//SYSPRINT  DD  SYSOUT=*
//SYSTERM   DD  SYSOUT=*

best regards
John Svendsen
DMdata a/s


   

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Hello,
under OS/390, I have to format 1 log data set and 10 db data sets. The
total
length of all these names is more than 100 caracters. How can I give such a
long string of caracters on the EXEC card, the OS/390 refuses it  when
exceeding 100 car.?

FORMAT 1 ADSM.RCVRYLO1 10 ADSM.DB1 ADSM.DB2 . ADSM.DB10'

Is it possible to extend this limit or use a DD card ?

Thanks for any help

René Lambelet
Nestec S.A. / Informatique du Centre
55, av. Nestlé  CH-1800 Vevey (Switzerland)
*+41'21'924'35'43  7+41'21'924'28'88  * K4-117
email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Visit our site: http://www.nestle.com

This message is intended only for the use of the addressee and
may contain information that is privileged and confidential.




copypools using tsm server to server

2001-08-03 Thread Steve Bennett

Fellow *SMers,

I have two TSM 4.1.3 servers in different cities and would like to use
themn each for offsite storage for the other. Bandwidth considerations
aside I have some other questions based upon things I have read in the
server to server redbook.
This can get a bit convoluted so get ready to wade through my verbage.

1) The book indicates that the virtual vols on the target server are
only deleted at the request of the source server and at no time will the
archive retention of the target server management class cause the
virtual vol archive to be deleted. Have any of you verified this?

2) I would like to have server-1 backup it's primary stgpools to target
server-2 and vice versa. Given that all primary pools for server-1
reside on server-1 is there any reason I shouldn't let the copypool data
from source server-1 comingle with the data in the primary stgpools on
target server-2?

One additional question that might be related to #1 is that at one time
I had some server to server virtual vols defined for primary pool
migration. That has since been abandoned and some of the server to
server and node defs deleted. However there are some parts of the defs
that I cannot delete because it says there are still inventory
references, in particular the other server def. I suspect that because
part of the defs were already deleted there is no way for the source
server to tell the target server to delete the archives and when I try
to do it manually it slaps my hand. Is there any way to delete those
inventory references so I can delete the other server def?

TIA

--

Steve Bennett, (907) 465-5783
State of Alaska, Information Technology Group, Technical Services
Section



Moving vol

2001-08-03 Thread Patrick Sheehan

Hello TSM'ers

 I need to move some volumes from one devclass to another and then
delete the devclass. I can't seem to find the right order of commands to
accomplish this.What's the easiest way??


Patrick



Re: Moving vol

2001-08-03 Thread Cook, Dwight E

The device classes probably are not compatible ??? right  ???
like 8mm tape  DLT tape or 3590 tape ???
you would have to do
move data old_vol_ser  stg=stg_pool_using_some_other_devclass
like
move data AAA001 stg=diskpool
hope this helps
later, Dwight

-Original Message-
From: Patrick Sheehan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 1:46 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Moving vol


Hello TSM'ers

 I need to move some volumes from one devclass to another and then
delete the devclass. I can't seem to find the right order of commands to
accomplish this.What's the easiest way??


Patrick



Re: copypools using tsm server to server

2001-08-03 Thread Nicholas Cassimatis

Steve,

For #2, no, you don't want to do that, as you'd be making copies of this
data back to the original server - making copies of you copy pool data.
You'd never finish updating the copy pools, as you'd always be creating
more data in the primary pool.  It's a circular path for the data, and it
would keep going around and around and around and around...  You definitely
want to make a second storage pool for the remote servers data storage.

Nick Cassimatis
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Today is the tomorrow of yesterday.



Re: bufpoolsize and AIX

2001-08-03 Thread Richard Sims

Our tsm server is a hand-me-down with lots of memory - 12GB.  I
decided to double the bufpoolsize parm to 2048576.  When I tried to
start tsm it complained that it couldn't acquire this memory and
failed to start.  I tried to set it to just a few hundred mb more,
but had the same result.  I finally just put it back to the origional
value and got our server up and running.

Any idea what limit I might be hitting?  I think I must be hitting an
AIX (4.3.3) limit of some kind.

Rick - Good intuition.  Your prevailing Unix Resource Limits are probably your
   hindrance.  Do 'ulimit -a' to check.  See the ulimit man page as a
lead-in to information.  Also look into those pesky AIX Segments.  Here are
some notes I have:

If a Unix system, check Unix Limits values.  Assure that the system is
not running out of virtual storage.  If AIX, you may be in need of more
than the single memory segment that AIX allows by default, which you can
go beyond via Large Program Support conventions.  The scoop:
 The amount of memory that the process needs may exceed the size of one
 data segment (256 MB), which is the default number of segments a
 process may use.  The process is in this case killed by the system.
 The work-around for this is to enable the program to be able to use
 more than one data segment by enabling Large Program Support, using the
 following commands:
cp -p Pgm_Name Pgm_Name.orig
cd /usr/lpp/adsm/bin
/usr/bin/echo '\0200\0\0\0' |
 dd of=Pgm_Name bs=4 count=1 seek=19 conv=notrunc
 which causes the XCOFF o_maxdata field (see aouthdr.h) to be updated.
 This allows the program to use the maximum of 8 data segments (2 GB).
 Choose the string to use for a given number of data segments from
 the following table:
# segmentsvm size   string

8 2 GB  '\0200\0\0\0'
6 1.5 GB'\0140\0\0\0'
4 1 GB  '\0100\0\0\0'
2 512 MB'\040\0\0\0'

 Richard Sims, BU



Re: Help please, how to format log and db with adsm 3.1 under OS/ 390

2001-08-03 Thread Cook, Dwight E

ONLY DO A SINGLE LOG  A SINGLE DB !
I ran into the same thing... I exceeded the max continuation of a EXEC card
!
Just to the single log  single db vol
then do formats of the other db vols like normal and go into the running tsm
that you started with the single log  single db vol and add in the
additional db vols

hope this helps
later, 
Dwight

-Original Message-
From: Lambelet,Rene,VEVEY,GL-IS/CIS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 3:45 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Help please, how to format log and db with adsm 3.1 under
OS/390


Hello,
under OS/390, I have to format 1 log data set and 10 db data sets. The total
length of all these names is more than 100 caracters. How can I give such a
long string of caracters on the EXEC card, the OS/390 refuses it  when
exceeding 100 car.?

FORMAT 1 ADSM.RCVRYLO1 10 ADSM.DB1 ADSM.DB2 . ADSM.DB10'

Is it possible to extend this limit or use a DD card ?

Thanks for any help

René Lambelet
Nestec S.A. / Informatique du Centre 
55, av. Nestlé  CH-1800 Vevey (Switzerland) 
*+41'21'924'35'43  7+41'21'924'28'88  * K4-117
email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Visit our site: http://www.nestle.com

This message is intended only for the use of the addressee and 
may contain information that is privileged and confidential.



Re: Help please, how to format log and db with adsm 3.1 under OS/390

2001-08-03 Thread Bill Colwell

Rene,

Use the indirect list-of-names method as in the sample below.

Hope this help,


-- 
--
Bill Colwell
C. S. Draper Lab
Cambridge, Ma.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--

--- begin sample ---
// --- job card -- 
//*- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -  
//* 
//* FORMAT THE LOG PRIOR TO A LOADDB JOB.   
//* 
//*- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -  
//SERVER   EXEC PGM=ANRSERV,
// PARM='/FORMAT 1 FILE:DD:LN 16 FILE:DD:DN',   
// DYNAMNBR=300 
//* - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -   
//* FOR TSM 3.7.40  
//* - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -   
//STEPLIB  DD  DSN=ADSM.V3R7M40.LINKLIB,DISP=SHR
//IMAGES   DD  DSN=ADSM.V3R7M40.SANRIMG(ADSMSERV),DISP=SHR  
//DSMAMENG DD  DSN=ADSM.V3R7M40.SANRMSG(ANRMENU),DISP=SHR  
//HLPAMENG DD  DSN=ADSM.V3R7M40.SANRHLP(ANRHENU),DISP=SHR  
//* - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -   
//* PERMANENT FILES 
//* - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -   
//OPT  DD  DSN=ADSM.V3R7.PROD.OLDSERVR.OPTIONS,DISP=SHR,FREE=CLOSE  
//DSK  DD  DSN=ADSM.PRODGA.DISKLOG3,DISP=SHR
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=* 
//SYSTERM  DD  SYSOUT=* 
//LN   DD * 
ADSM.PROD.RLA.AL100F
//DN   DD * 
ADSM.PROD.DB.AD101F 
ADSM.PROD.DB.AD102F 
ADSM.PROD.DB.AD103F 
ADSM.PROD.DB.AD104F 
ADSM.PROD.DB.AD105F 
ADSM.PROD.DB.AD106F 
ADSM.PROD.DB.AD107F 
ADSM.PROD.DB.AD108F 
ADSM.PROD.DB.AD121F 
ADSM.PROD.DB.AD122F 
ADSM.PROD.DB.AD123F 
ADSM.PROD.DB.AD124F 
ADSM.PROD.DB.AD125F 
ADSM.PROD.DB.AD126F 
ADSM.PROD.DB.AD127F 
ADSM.PROD.DB.AD128F 

--- end sample ---

In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 08/03/01 
   at 05:11 PM, Lambelet,Rene,VEVEY,GL-IS/CIS [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

Hello,
under OS/390, I have to format 1 log data set and 10 db data sets. The total
length of all these names is more than 100 caracters. How can I give such a
long string of caracters on the EXEC card, the OS/390 refuses it  when
exceeding 100 car.?

FORMAT 1 ADSM.RCVRYLO1 10 ADSM.DB1 ADSM.DB2 . ADSM.DB10'

Is it possible to extend this limit or use a DD card ?

Thanks for any help

René Lambelet
Nestec S.A. / Informatique du Centre 
55, av. Nestlé  CH-1800 Vevey (Switzerland) 
*+41'21'924'35'43  7+41'21'924'28'88  * K4-117
email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Visit our site: http://www.nestle.com

This message is intended only for the use of the addressee and 
may contain information that is privileged and confidential.



Re: Transfer Rate

2001-08-03 Thread Francisco Reyes

On Thu, 2 Aug 2001, Lindsay Morris wrote:
 If you really want to speed up your backups, you need to
 look at the accounting log records (.../server/bin/dsmaccnt.log - see admin
 guide for layout)
 to see which of your clients suffer most from idle wait, media wait, or comm
 wait.

Is this accounting file created by default? I don't see one in my bin
directory.



Re: Moving vol

2001-08-03 Thread Prather, Wanda

You can't change the device class of a volume that already exists.

Define your new device class.
Define a new storage pool that uses the device class.
MOVE DATA volname stgpool=newstgpool

ONce the volumes are empty, they will be delete (go back to scratch)
automatically.
Then you can delete the old stgpool.
Then you can delete the old device class.


-Original Message-
From: Patrick Sheehan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 2:46 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Moving vol


Hello TSM'ers

 I need to move some volumes from one devclass to another and then
delete the devclass. I can't seem to find the right order of commands to
accomplish this.What's the easiest way??


Patrick