tape drive unavailable WHEN THEY ARE!!!!!

[Joe Faracchio]

Just moved my 1200 user production system to a new system and
I've gotta solve this before my diskpool fills up completely!!

I'm having a whole lot of problems with tape mounts and was wondering
if anyone can summarize the known problems fixes for this.
(what combination of devices.rte and TSM work without problems)

I'm on AIX 4.3.3 with TSM 4.1.3. Its a 3466 NSM
I've got a 3494 with two 3590s.

In a nutshell:
I can do a:
  backup stg diskpool copypool
with NO PROBLEMS.  But if I do:

  upd stg diskpool hi=1 low=0 migproc=2

I get :
 ANR8447E No drives are currently available in library  3494LIB.
 ANR1401W Mount request denied for volume 200332 - mount
  failed.

I've also seen this with onsite and offsite reclamations.

any help would be much appreciated.

thanks  joe.f.

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Numberformat

[Michel Engels]

Resubmitting this message because until now I did not receive any reaction. Is
this problem with the numberformat really a bug or did I forget something.

This could really help me simplifying a number of scripts.

M Engels
-- Forwarded by Michel Engels/BE/Devoteam on 08/15/2001
07:56 AM ---


MICHEL ENGELS
08/07/2001 09:56 AM

To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:

Subject:  Numberformat

Environment:
server: mvs 2.9 TSM 3.7.1
client: WinNT TSM 4.1.0


This client is used as an administrative client. A number of reports are
generated and send to the conserned people. Now on the server the numberformat
is set to 3 to display the numbers as "1 234.6". This works fine in the
administrative GUI directly on the MVS but not on the client. What is missing or
is this a bug?

Michel Engels
TSM Consultant
Devoteam Belgium

Re: backing up only 1 directory on Windows

[Andrew Raibeck]

Hm... I'm surprised you didn't get a syntax error on the "include.dir"
statement, as that is not a supported option.

The following isn't pretty, but it might do what you need:

   * Exclude all files in root of each drive.
   exclude *:\*

   * Exclude all directories on all drives other than C:.
   exclude.dir [abd-z]:\*

   * Exclude all directories on C: except for C:\Users.
   exclude.dir c:\[a-tv-z0-9]*
   exclude.dir c:\U[a-rt-z0-9]*
   exclude.dir c:\Us[a-df-z0-9]*
   exclude.dir c:\Use[a-qs-z0-9]*
   exclude.dir c:\User[a-rt-z0-9]*
   exclude.dir c:\Users?*

This should catch most of the stuff. If you use other characters in
directory names, you can stick them between the square brackets as well.
For example, to prevent backing up a hypothetical directory named
C:\user$, you could rewrite the EXCLUDE.DIRs as:

   exclude.dir C:\[a-tv-z0-9$]*
   exclude.dir C:\U[a-rt-z0-9$]*
   ...etc.

Then C:\Users and its files and subdirectories will be backed up by
default.

If you want to add a little extra protection, you could do this:

   * Exclude all files except C:\Users and its subdirectories.
   exclude *:\...\*
   include c:\users\...\*

   * Exclude all directories on all drives other than C:.
   exclude.dir [abd-z]:\*

   * Exclude all directories on C: except for C:\Users.
   exclude.dir c:\[a-tv-z0-9$]*
   exclude.dir c:\U[a-rt-z0-9$]*
   exclude.dir c:\Us[a-df-z0-9$]*
   exclude.dir c:\Use[a-qs-z0-9$]*
   exclude.dir c:\User[a-rt-z0-9$]*
   exclude.dir c:\Users?*

Then if someone slips in a name similar to C:\Users, but with a character
not covered in the list between the brackets (C:\User%, for example), at
least only the directory structure will be backed up, but not the files.

Yes, an include.dir option would be nice...

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Tivoli Systems
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
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Subject:backing up only 1 directory on Windows



I have a Windows system running TSM client 4.2.0.0 from which I want to
backup just the directory 'C:\Users' and all of its subdirectories and
files.  I don't want to backup any other directories or files from that
system.  I tried these dsm.opt specifications:

   exclude.dir "C:\*"
   include.dir "C:\Users\...*"

A gui initiated incremental backup, excluded everything, including
C:\Users\...\*, from the C: drive.

Can you suggest the settings that will do what I want?

Re: Archiving vs. Incremental strategy

[Jack McKinney]

Big Brother tells me that Eduardo Martinez wrote:
> Im trying to define a backup strategy that involves backing up my boxes
> on a daily, weekly, monthly (full) and yearly  (full) basis.
> Daily backups will last only 3 days, weekly ones only three weeks,
> monthly 3 months and yearly 3 years (because of taxes purposes).
> 
> Is it a good strategy to mix archiving and incremental back ups with
> this schema?
> Since monthly and yearly are the ones which last more, will it be
> convinient to archive these, and do an incremental on the other ones?
> 
> I havent used too much the archive option, so I havent seen a real
> useful usage of this option.

A lot depends on how much data you actualy have, but...
I would recommend that you do regular incremental backups of your
data, and periodically make backupsets of your nodes (see GENERATE
BACKUPSET).  Alternately, you can EXPORT NODE FILEDATA=ALL all of your
nodes to a set of tapes, which you can then date and store.
Either of these will give you point in time restores to any point
in time in which you exported or made a backupset.

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backing up only 1 directory on Windows

[Joel Fuhrman]

I have a Windows system running TSM client 4.2.0.0 from which I want to
backup just the directory 'C:\Users' and all of its subdirectories and
files.  I don't want to backup any other directories or files from that
system.  I tried these dsm.opt specifications:

   exclude.dir "C:\*"
   include.dir "C:\Users\...*"

A gui initiated incremental backup, excluded everything, including
C:\Users\...\*, from the C: drive.

Can you suggest the settings that will do what I want?

Archiving vs. Incremental strategy

[Eduardo Martinez]

Im trying to define a backup strategy that involves backing up my boxes
on a daily, weekly, monthly (full) and yearly  (full) basis.
Daily backups will last only 3 days, weekly ones only three weeks,
monthly 3 months and yearly 3 years (because of taxes purposes).

Is it a good strategy to mix archiving and incremental back ups with
this schema?
Since monthly and yearly are the ones which last more, will it be
convinient to archive these, and do an incremental on the other ones?

I havent used too much the archive option, so I havent seen a real
useful usage of this option.

Thanks in advance

Regards.


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Re: Expiring DB2 backups

[Gyula Bereczky]

On Wed, Aug 15, 2001 at 12:39:06AM +0200, Eduardo Martinez wrote:
> As you know, when you backup DB2 it stamps an unique id to its backup,
> making it an active version forever, then you can't expire that backup.
> Does anyone know how to expire this kind of backups?

Use db2adutl's delete command to mark older versions for expiration.
You can find the description of db2adutl in the db2 admin guide.

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Re: Database volhist

[Eduardo Martinez]

You can create a couple of admin schedules in order to get control over
which volumes you use for TSM Database Backup:
For example:

a) backup db type=full devclass=your_dev_class
volumenames=TAPE1,TAPE2,TAPE3,TAPE4

b) delete volhist type=dbbackup todate=today-3

You can schedule the delete volhist first, lets say 5 minutes before
backup runs, in this way you ensure you have at least one tape
available for your database backup.

Hope this helps.
Regards.




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Tue, 14 Aug 2001 14:13:35 -0300
> Responder a: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> De: Christian Astuni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Asunto:  Database volhist
> Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> I have a backup trigger as backup of ADSM database, and i have a pool
> of 7
> volumes and I use one per day.
> I run a backup full all the days.
> When i want to reuse the first volumen, appearce a mesage as this:
>
> Scratch volume  from library 3590LIB rejected - volume name is
> already
> in use.
>
> I want to delete this volume of the volume history, but I can't. I
> specified al the parameters, but i receive a follow mesage:
> 0 sequencial volume history entries were successfully deleted
>
>
> Thank you very much for your help.
> Regards Christian
>
>
> Christian Astuni
> IBM Global Services
>
>
>

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Sleep Mode for MAC/PC

[Rajesh Oak]

Does Tivoli wake up a MAC/PC from the sleep mode for a prompted schedule?
How do I make this work, since Energy Saving is a major issue at my site.
I have TSM Server 4.1 on Win2000 Server. Clients are MAC (75%) and PC(25%). People are 
used to Retrospect Backup which works even when the MAC is in the sleep mode.

Any help is appreciated.

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Expiring DB2 backups

[Eduardo Martinez]

Hi *SMers.

As you know, when you backup DB2 it stamps an unique id to its backup,
making it an active version forever, then you can't expire that backup.
Does anyone know how to expire this kind of backups?
Thanks in advance.

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Re: AIX 4.3.3 list of excludable files & filesystems

[Joel Fuhrman]

Is the windows 2000 version available yet?

On Mon, 13 Aug 2001, Ray Schafer wrote:

> The Bare Metal Restore product from The Kernel Group
> (http://www.tkg.com/products/bmr/tsm) has the ability to use the backup
> data in TSM to recover your server.  The "prepare to restore" operation
> can be issued with a single command and will create a customized restore
> procedure that will automatically recover the entire machine, or if you
> prefer, just the rootvg.  The prepare to restore operation will also
> allocate the BMR file and boot server components so they will answer the
> network boot and NFS requests of the server being recovered.
>
> It works well, and the restore is automated: prepare to restore and
> network boot.  That's it.
>
> Lisa Cabanas wrote:
>
> >Thanks for your reply, Herfried.  It brings to mind some other questions
> >regarding other volume groups.  Say you have all your Oracle stuff on one
> >or two different vgs.  Would you need to have done a savevg sometime in
> >the past to get the vg back, or at bare metal time would you need to
> >manually create the volume group and lvs and fss associated with it, and
> >then fill it with the data from TSM?
> >
> >I went and looked for a bare metal Redbook for AIX and found the one from
> >1997 that deals with AIX 4.1-- is it still pretty applicable to 4.3.3?  I
> >wonder if TSM still "supports" a bare metal for AIX, or if it is now
> >unsupported like Win2K is?
> >
> >
> >thanks
> >lisa
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Herfried Abel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >08/09/2001 01:52 AM
> >Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"
> >
> >
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >cc: (bcc: Lisa Cabanas/SC/MODOT)
> >Subject:Re: AIX 4.3.3 list of excludable files & filesystems
> >
> >
> >
> >Lisa,
> >
> >All the filesystems within the rootvg are backed up with a mksysb as long
> >as they are not explicit excluded from rthe mksysb. In general AIX does
> >not
> >delete (major) files on reboot as other UNIX's do ( eg /tmp ).
> >This is how we do the restore of an AIX machine :
> >1) restore mksysb
> >2) restore "OS-definitions" via TSM ( rootvg filesystems eg. /etc ) ( TSM
> >Client already restored by mksysb )
> >3) restore filesystems (non rootvg) via TSM
> >4) restore application-data ( DBs eg. ORACLE,SAPDB, MSSQL etc ) via TDP
> >Agents in necessary.
> >
> >Step 2) depends on the time-difference between the mksysb and the last
> >config changes of AIX. Should not be necessary if you make a mksysb after
> >every config change , as all of the sysadmins do :-)
> >
> >So what we do, we dont exclude files from the rootvg in the TSM backup (
> >AIX-OS is not really need much space ) but we exclude lots of temporary
> >application files. We think that at this point we can find a lot of
> >temporary data (eg. SAP rollfiles ).Of cause you have to know your
> >application / Datebase very well, so that you dont exclude a file by
> >mistake.
> >
> >herfried
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Lisa Cabanas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@VM.MARIST.EDU> on 08.08.2001
> >18:20:26
> >
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> >
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> >cc:
> >
> >Subject:  AIX 4.3.3 list of excludable files & filesystems
> >
> >
> >Has anyone ever compiled a list of files and/or file systems that can be
> >excluded from backup either because they are dynamically created by the OS
> >at
> >reboot/syncvg etc
> >or because they are included in a mksysb?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Need different files backuped on same Unix client.

[Lindsay Morris]

OK, OK.  Swapping inclexcl files is a bad idea.
We all get one thoughtless post per year, don't we?  ;-}

> -Original Message-
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Richard Sims
> Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 4:42 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Need different files backuped on same Unix client.
>
>
> >Well, Andy's right, of course. But if all you're doing is backing up
> >ADDITIONAL files on Sunday, then the WEEKDAY files would still
> be included.
>
> Swapping your include/exclude file is also problematic in that it does not
> necessarily represent your full set of include-excludes: when
> contemplating
> changes to client options files always keep in mind that there may be
> server-based Client Option Sets - or could suddenly be if there
> aren't now,
> depending upon server changes.
>
>   Richard Sims, BU
>

Re: Need different files backuped on same Unix client.

[Richard Sims]

>Well, Andy's right, of course. But if all you're doing is backing up
>ADDITIONAL files on Sunday, then the WEEKDAY files would still be included.

Swapping your include/exclude file is also problematic in that it does not
necessarily represent your full set of include-excludes: when contemplating
changes to client options files always keep in mind that there may be
server-based Client Option Sets - or could suddenly be if there aren't now,
depending upon server changes.

  Richard Sims, BU

SCSI Multiplexer

[Mauricio Angelino Massa]

TSMers,

Is there any kind of restriction/know problem to interface a TSM Server and
a tape library using a SCSI Multiplexer?

Thanks, regards,

Mauricio

TSM 4.2 client and UNICODE

[Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU]

I was just bitten by the UNICODE issue ("fioScanDirEntry(): Can't map
object") with the TSM 4.2 client and a W2K server client.  I did not
realize there was a requirement to use the 4.2 client  that also required
the 4.2 server (no, I cannot install the TSM 4.2 server on OS390. Since it
is a COST upgrade, I could not justfy it. The only way I got to 4.1.3 was
because 3.1 had long expired).

In fact, I thing the UNICODE issue has caused this client to go from 4-5GB
backup to over 20GB (I canceled it after I saw all the errors in the
DSMERROR.LOG file as well as the numerous blank and screwy entries in the
DSMSCHED.LOG file).

No, I can not ask the server owner to turn off UNICODE support since this
is a university (note the "versity" part, as in "diversity").

Any way to get around this issue ?   So far, the only thing I can figure
is going back to the 4.1.3 client.

===
Zoltan Forray
Virginia Commonwealth University
University Computing Center
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
voice: 804-828-4807

Re: Need different files backuped on same Unix client.

[Lindsay Morris]

Well, Andy's right, of course. But if all you're doing is backing up
ADDITIONAL files on Sunday, then the WEEKDAY files would still be included.

Of course the SUNDAY files would be EXcluded on Monday, go into inactive
status, and use the expiration versions/date parameters for deleted
fileswhich, again, might be OK as long as you're aware of that.



> -Original Message-
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Andrew Raibeck
> Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 3:35 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Need different files backuped on same Unix client.
>
>
> I would definitely not recommend swapping include/exclude lists, as the
> results are bound to be undesirable. The main reason is because EXCLUDE
> not only excludes files from backup, but also expires any existing backup
> versions of the excluded files.
>
> If you are looking to back up only a directory (or handful of
> directories/files) during the week, then you might try this:
>
> 1) Define an incremental backup schedule that runs only on Sunday to back
> up the entire machine.
>
> 2) Define a second backup schedule (incremental or selective, depending on
> your needs) that runs on week-days, but also add the desired directories
> to the OBJECTS setting in the schedule. For example:
>
>OBJECTS="/mylogs/"
>
> or
>
>OBJECTS="/mylogs/ /otherdir/*.log"
>
> etc.
>
> If you need to process subdirectories, then add the -SUBDIR=YES option to
> the OPTIONS setting in the schedule.
>
> Don't exclude any files in your include/exclude list, unless they are
> files that you *never* want to back up.
>
> Now the week-day schedule will back up only the files specified in the
> schedule's OBJECTS setting, and the week-end schedule will process the
> entire system.
>
> Regards,
>
> Andy
>
> Andy Raibeck
> IBM Tivoli Systems
> Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
> e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
> The command line is your friend.
> "Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.
>
>
>
>
>
> Lindsay Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 08/14/2001 12:03
> Please respond to lmorris
>
>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> cc:
> Subject:Re: Need different files backuped on same
> Unix client.
>
>
>
> If you create two clients, TSM will treat them like two different
> machines,
> and you'll double the amount of storage used.
> Maybe you're OK with that...
>
> What I'd try is setting up a cron job on sunday morning to run a script
> like
> this (untested - off top of head here):
>
> #!/bin/sh
> # usage: chgincludes [ sunday | weekday ]
> cd /usr/tivoli/tsm/client/ba/bin
> cp inclexcl.$1 inclexcl
> kill `ps -ef | fgrep dsmc sched | awk '{print $2}' `
> nohup dsmc sched &
>
> And in crontab
> 0 0 * * 0 /my/scripts-dir/chgincludes sunday
> 0 0 * * 1-6 /my/scripts-dir/chgincludes weekday
>
> And of course you'd have to manually set up your two include-exclude files
> and name them inclexcl.sunday and inclexcl.weekday.  And this assumes that
> dsm.sys has a line in it like "inclexcl
> /usr/tivoli/tsm/client/ba/bin/inclexcl"
>
> You could do the same trick using client option sets on the server, and an
> administrative schedule instead of crontab.
> > -Original Message-
> > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > Joe Spade
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 2:51 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Need different files backuped on same Unix client.
> >
> >
> > We are running TSM 4.1.3 server on a AIX system.  The client on the same
> > system is run with a schedule everynight to backup up certain log
> > files.  On Sunday we do an archive backup of all of the files.  Thie
> > archive backup takes to long (12 hours) and we would like to cut it down
> > by using the normal incremental backup.  I need to find a way to change
> > the include-exclude file list on Sunday morning to insure a complete
> > backup.  I had heard that you can create two clients on the same
> > system.  If so, does anyone know how to do it and also how do you point
> > it to a different dsm.sys and dsm.opt file?
> >
> > J. Spade
> > R & L Carriers, Inc.
>

Re: Need different files backuped on same Unix client.

[Andrew Raibeck]

I would definitely not recommend swapping include/exclude lists, as the
results are bound to be undesirable. The main reason is because EXCLUDE
not only excludes files from backup, but also expires any existing backup
versions of the excluded files.

If you are looking to back up only a directory (or handful of
directories/files) during the week, then you might try this:

1) Define an incremental backup schedule that runs only on Sunday to back
up the entire machine.

2) Define a second backup schedule (incremental or selective, depending on
your needs) that runs on week-days, but also add the desired directories
to the OBJECTS setting in the schedule. For example:

   OBJECTS="/mylogs/"

or

   OBJECTS="/mylogs/ /otherdir/*.log"

etc.

If you need to process subdirectories, then add the -SUBDIR=YES option to
the OPTIONS setting in the schedule.

Don't exclude any files in your include/exclude list, unless they are
files that you *never* want to back up.

Now the week-day schedule will back up only the files specified in the
schedule's OBJECTS setting, and the week-end schedule will process the
entire system.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Tivoli Systems
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
"Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.





Lindsay Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
08/14/2001 12:03
Please respond to lmorris


To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:
Subject:Re: Need different files backuped on same Unix client.



If you create two clients, TSM will treat them like two different
machines,
and you'll double the amount of storage used.
Maybe you're OK with that...

What I'd try is setting up a cron job on sunday morning to run a script
like
this (untested - off top of head here):

#!/bin/sh
# usage: chgincludes [ sunday | weekday ]
cd /usr/tivoli/tsm/client/ba/bin
cp inclexcl.$1 inclexcl
kill `ps -ef | fgrep dsmc sched | awk '{print $2}' `
nohup dsmc sched &

And in crontab
0 0 * * 0 /my/scripts-dir/chgincludes sunday
0 0 * * 1-6 /my/scripts-dir/chgincludes weekday

And of course you'd have to manually set up your two include-exclude files
and name them inclexcl.sunday and inclexcl.weekday.  And this assumes that
dsm.sys has a line in it like "inclexcl
/usr/tivoli/tsm/client/ba/bin/inclexcl"

You could do the same trick using client option sets on the server, and an
administrative schedule instead of crontab.
> -Original Message-
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Joe Spade
> Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 2:51 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Need different files backuped on same Unix client.
>
>
> We are running TSM 4.1.3 server on a AIX system.  The client on the same
> system is run with a schedule everynight to backup up certain log
> files.  On Sunday we do an archive backup of all of the files.  Thie
> archive backup takes to long (12 hours) and we would like to cut it down
> by using the normal incremental backup.  I need to find a way to change
> the include-exclude file list on Sunday morning to insure a complete
> backup.  I had heard that you can create two clients on the same
> system.  If so, does anyone know how to do it and also how do you point
> it to a different dsm.sys and dsm.opt file?
>
> J. Spade
> R & L Carriers, Inc.

Re: Need different files backuped on same Unix client.

[Richard Sims]

> We are running TSM 4.1.3 server on a AIX system.  The client on the same
> system is run with a schedule everynight to backup up certain log
> files.  On Sunday we do an archive backup of all of the files.  Thie
> archive backup takes to long (12 hours) and we would like to cut it down
> by using the normal incremental backup.  I need to find a way to change
> the include-exclude file list on Sunday morning to insure a complete
> backup.  I had heard that you can create two clients on the same
> system.  If so, does anyone know how to do it and also how do you point
> it to a different dsm.sys and dsm.opt file?

Joe - I would approach the everynight differently, to simplify things.
  Nightly, I would run a Selective backup to back up the log files,
eliminating the need for the Include spec that otherwise complicates
your life.  The Sunday Incremental would thus process the whole file
system without impediment.

  Richard Sims, BU

Re: Need different files backuped on same Unix client.

[Lindsay Morris]

If you create two clients, TSM will treat them like two different machines,
and you'll double the amount of storage used.
Maybe you're OK with that...

What I'd try is setting up a cron job on sunday morning to run a script like
this (untested - off top of head here):

#!/bin/sh
# usage: chgincludes [ sunday | weekday ]
cd /usr/tivoli/tsm/client/ba/bin
cp inclexcl.$1 inclexcl
kill `ps -ef | fgrep dsmc sched | awk '{print $2}' `
nohup dsmc sched &

And in crontab
0 0 * * 0 /my/scripts-dir/chgincludes sunday
0 0 * * 1-6 /my/scripts-dir/chgincludes weekday

And of course you'd have to manually set up your two include-exclude files
and name them inclexcl.sunday and inclexcl.weekday.  And this assumes that
dsm.sys has a line in it like "inclexcl
/usr/tivoli/tsm/client/ba/bin/inclexcl"

You could do the same trick using client option sets on the server, and an
administrative schedule instead of crontab.
> -Original Message-
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Joe Spade
> Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 2:51 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Need different files backuped on same Unix client.
>
>
> We are running TSM 4.1.3 server on a AIX system.  The client on the same
> system is run with a schedule everynight to backup up certain log
> files.  On Sunday we do an archive backup of all of the files.  Thie
> archive backup takes to long (12 hours) and we would like to cut it down
> by using the normal incremental backup.  I need to find a way to change
> the include-exclude file list on Sunday morning to insure a complete
> backup.  I had heard that you can create two clients on the same
> system.  If so, does anyone know how to do it and also how do you point
> it to a different dsm.sys and dsm.opt file?
>
> J. Spade
> R & L Carriers, Inc.
>

Need different files backuped on same Unix client.

[Joe Spade]

We are running TSM 4.1.3 server on a AIX system.  The client on the same
system is run with a schedule everynight to backup up certain log
files.  On Sunday we do an archive backup of all of the files.  Thie
archive backup takes to long (12 hours) and we would like to cut it down
by using the normal incremental backup.  I need to find a way to change
the include-exclude file list on Sunday morning to insure a complete
backup.  I had heard that you can create two clients on the same
system.  If so, does anyone know how to do it and also how do you point
it to a different dsm.sys and dsm.opt file?

J. Spade
R & L Carriers, Inc.

Re: Database volhist

[Christian Astuni]

Yes Richard, when I need to delete one volume to the backup series, because
I need to reuse the volume.
When run the comman " q volhist t=dbb" I saw the 7 volumes with series 1
... 2 ... 3 ... up to 7.
How is the correct form to delete this ? Because i try with the command "
delete volhist t=dbb tod=, and i can't ...

Thnk yuo very much.


Christian Astuni
IBM Global Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tel. 4898-4621
Hipolito Yrigoyen 2149  - Martínez (1640) Bs. As. - Argentina



   

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>I have a backup trigger as backup of ADSM database, and i have a pool of 7
>volumes and I use one per day.
>I run a backup full all the days.
>When i want to reuse the first volumen, appearce a mesage as this:
>
>Scratch volume  from library 3590LIB rejected - volume name is already
>in use.
>
>I want to delete this volume of the volume history, but I can't. I
>specified al the parameters, but i receive a follow mesage:
>0 sequencial volume history entries were successfully deleted

Christian - I suspect that you are trying to delete one volume from a
Backup Series, as in the Full that the subsequent
Incremental(s)
is/are dependent upon.  Use Query VOLHistory to inspect it in context.
Try to invoke DELete VOLHistory so that one whole, old Series is deleted.

  Richard Sims, BU

Re: Database volhist

[Christian Astuni]

I try to delete with grafich interface and the command line with: delete
volhist tod=x t=dbb




Christian Astuni
IBM Global Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tel. 4898-4621
Hipolito Yrigoyen 2149  - Martínez (1640) Bs. As. - Argentina



   
  
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-Original Message-
From: Christian Astuni [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 1:14 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Database volhist


I have a backup trigger as backup of ADSM database, and i have a pool of 7
volumes and I use one per day.
I run a backup full all the days.
When i want to reuse the first volumen, appearce a mesage as this:

Scratch volume  from library 3590LIB rejected - volume name is already
in use.

I want to delete this volume of the volume history, but I can't. I
specified al the parameters, but i receive a follow mesage:
0 sequencial volume history entries were successfully deleted


Thank you very much for your help.
Regards Christian


Christian Astuni
IBM Global Services

Re: Database volhist

[Richard Sims]

>I have a backup trigger as backup of ADSM database, and i have a pool of 7
>volumes and I use one per day.
>I run a backup full all the days.
>When i want to reuse the first volumen, appearce a mesage as this:
>
>Scratch volume  from library 3590LIB rejected - volume name is already
>in use.
>
>I want to delete this volume of the volume history, but I can't. I
>specified al the parameters, but i receive a follow mesage:
>0 sequencial volume history entries were successfully deleted

Christian - I suspect that you are trying to delete one volume from a
Backup Series, as in the Full that the subsequent Incremental(s)
is/are dependent upon.  Use Query VOLHistory to inspect it in context.
Try to invoke DELete VOLHistory so that one whole, old Series is deleted.

  Richard Sims, BU

Re: Database volhist

[Prather, Wanda]

What command did you use?

-Original Message-
From: Christian Astuni [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 1:14 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Database volhist


I have a backup trigger as backup of ADSM database, and i have a pool of 7
volumes and I use one per day.
I run a backup full all the days.
When i want to reuse the first volumen, appearce a mesage as this:

Scratch volume  from library 3590LIB rejected - volume name is already
in use.

I want to delete this volume of the volume history, but I can't. I
specified al the parameters, but i receive a follow mesage:
0 sequencial volume history entries were successfully deleted


Thank you very much for your help.
Regards Christian


Christian Astuni
IBM Global Services

Re: Client Backup Issue

[Andrew Raibeck]

Hi Richard,

I was a customer at the time ADSM came out, so I was not privy to the
original design. However, it is likely that the answer lies, at least in
part, with RESTORE syntax, where we need to know whether the file spec is
a directory or file (i.e. do we search high-level names or low-level names
in the TSM database). Also, it is possible to have a file named 'A', back
it up, delete it, create a directory called 'A', then back it up. So now
you would have a directory named 'A' and a file named 'A'. The terminating
backslash helps resolve the ambiguity.

Another case is when you wish to restore to an alternate location. You
need to specify the backslash on the target file spec (if it does not
exist on the client file system) to indicate that the target is a
directory, not a file name. For example, if I have a directory named DIR
with nothing else in it except for a file named FILE, then I could say,

   res c:\dir\file c:\dir\x

or

   res c:\dir\file c:\dir\x\

In the first case, the file would be restored as name 'x' in the 'DIR'
directory.

In the second case, the file would be restored as name 'file' in the DIR\x
directory.

Requiring the backslash on the backup file spec when dealing with a
directory helps keep the syntax consistent.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Tivoli Systems
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
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>In the schedule settings, you should change the OBJECTS from:
>
>   C:\TSM Backup
>
>to
>
>   C:\TSM Backup\
>
>unless you only want to back up the single file or directory named "TSM
>Backup", but I doubt that is what you want.

Andy - I have to ask: why does the software require customers to add
   a slash or backslash (depending upon architecture type) to the
end of a specification for the client to know that the object is a
directory?  As a programmer, I would write the software to simply test
for the actual object being a directory or not, rather than silently
fail to process the directory.  That is, if the customer said to back
up XYZ, I would do so upon discovering the existence of the object,
be it a file or directory.

The slash-backslash requirement is counter-intuitive for customers in
general, where operating system commands never require adding a special
character to the end of a spec to say that the object is a directory:
such commands simply proceed to honor the invoker's request and process
the object as found.  This special TSM requirement needlessly confuses
many customers, and is a pet peeve with the product.

  Richard Sims, BU

Database volhist

[Christian Astuni]

I have a backup trigger as backup of ADSM database, and i have a pool of 7
volumes and I use one per day.
I run a backup full all the days.
When i want to reuse the first volumen, appearce a mesage as this:

Scratch volume  from library 3590LIB rejected - volume name is already
in use.

I want to delete this volume of the volume history, but I can't. I
specified al the parameters, but i receive a follow mesage:
0 sequencial volume history entries were successfully deleted


Thank you very much for your help.
Regards Christian


Christian Astuni
IBM Global Services

Re: TSM Win2K 4.2.0 client scheduler problems

[Andrew Raibeck]

Check the adsm-l archives at www.adsm.org for my response back on August 9
with regard to this issue.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Tivoli Systems
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
"Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.





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This sounds like a bad design.  How about a Correction of the Design
process?

Jeff Bach



-Original Message-
From:   Eliza Lau [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, August 09, 2001 3:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: TSM Win2K 4.2.0 client scheduler problems

I just got off the phone with TSM level 2 support.  This is a
known
problem
with the Windows 2000 4.2.0 client.  It is a timing issue.  The
client
can't get the password from the server and tries 3 times.  A
second
later it gets it.  The developers have no fixes for this, no APAR
either.  They may just document it as "working as designed".
Beside
getting
these erroneous errors in dsmerror.log and the event log,
scheduled
backup
works just fine.

Eliza


>
> I have the excact same experience - and have found no other
solution than to
> go back to TSM v4.1 lev. 2.19. Then the problem was gone.
>
> Server: TSM v4.1 lev 1.0 on OS/390
> Client: Windows NT 4.0, SP6
>
> Henrik Bach Gravesen
> Jyske Bank A/S, Denmark
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> >
> > A user of mine is using the TSM Win2K 4.2.0 client acceptor
> > service to manage
> > the client scheduler.  The acceptor service wakes the
> > scheduler every 12 hours
> > and starts the scheduled backup with no problems.  All is well
except
> > that she is getting the error code 4099 in the application
> > event log every time
> > the scheduler wakes up (every 12 hours).  In dsmerrorlog,
> >SessOpen: Error 137 from signon authentication   (3 times)
> >
> > Password is set to generate.  GUI, command line, and
> > scheduled backups all
> > run fine.  The user is not prompted for the password.  So
> > there must not be
> > any authenication problems and the password is stored in the
registry.
> >
> > Has anyone seen this with their W2K 4.2.0 clients?  Is this
> > normal behavior?
> >
> > server - TSM 4.1.3 on AIX 4.3.3
> > client - Windows 2000 4.2.0
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Eliza Lau
> > Virginia Tech Computing Center
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 540-231-9399
> >
>


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Re: TSM Job "release"

[Richard Sims]

>...The nightly scheduling of administrator
>scripts will not work for me as the window for running
>the jobs varies from night to night, thus the need to
>"release" or run these scripts at appropriate
>(varying) times. Anyone met this challenge?

Rod - You could try a variant of the "bkup_stg_db" server script
  which is provided at the bottom of the scripts.smp file,
which detects a certain deterring condition and reschedules itself
to try again in 20 minutes.  That is, you can have a server script
scheduled to start trying at a certain time of night, and keep
trying if a given condition is met...something as trivial as an
operator session present/absent, to trigger the job.  Lots of
flexibility there.

  Richard Sims, BU

Re: Strange message from API client

[Del Hoobler]

> We have Version 1.1 of Tivoli Data Protection for Microsoft SQL Server
> installed on a Windows NT system here. Yesterday I attempted to obtain
> a list of database backups using the command 'sqldsmc /adsmquerydb'.
> The command failed with the message 'ANS1245E Format unknown'. This
> is strange on two counts. The message is documented as coming from the
> command line client of the TSM client code. The message is documented
> as occuring during attempts to retrieve or restore files, not during
> queries. Can anyone shed any light on this?

Thomas,

This usually means that you have back-leveled your TSM API
in some fashion or another.  Once you use a later level
TSM API to run backups, many times you cannot use a
lower level TSM API anymore because the data is
stored in a new "format" that older levels of the
TSM API do not know about.  Make sense at all?

The message is coming from the TSM API and displayed
by TDP for SQL.  Upgrade your TSM API and retry.

Thanks,

Del



Del Hoobler
IBM Corporation
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TDP for Oracle

[Gill, Geoffrey L.]

Does anyone know the answer to the following:

Will Tivoli be implementing TDP for Oracle on True 64 anytime in the near
future/or at all? You would think since Oracle spent time and money to
develop Oracle to run on it Tivoli would too

Geoff Gill
TSM Administrator
NT Systems Support Engineer
SAIC
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TSM Job "release"

[rh]

I'm looking for a way to have my operators run my
nightly DB backup and Copypool backup scripts at an
appropriate time. Set times available via
administrator schedules will not work for me. The
other challenge is to allow my operators to run
nightly scripts without having an authority other than
operator. I believe at least the DB backup requires
more than operator priviledge (maybe system), and I
don't want to give them the ability to compromise my
system. The nightly scheduling of administrator
scripts will not work for me as the window for running
the jobs varies from night to night, thus the need to
"release" or run these scripts at appropriate
(varying) times. Anyone met this challenge?

Rod Hroblak
ADP

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Strange message from API client

[Thomas Denier]

We have Version 1.1 of Tivoli Data Protection for Microsoft SQL Server
installed on a Windows NT system here. Yesterday I attempted to obtain
a list of database backups using the command 'sqldsmc /adsmquerydb'.
The command failed with the message 'ANS1245E Format unknown'. This
is strange on two counts. The message is documented as coming from the
command line client of the TSM client code. The message is documented
as occuring during attempts to retrieve or restore files, not during
queries. Can anyone shed any light on this?

Re: ADSM Monitor ...

[Schilling, Walt]

Yes, I would like a copy.

Thanks,

Walt Schilling

 -Original Message-
From:   Sean Voyce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Monday, August 13, 2001 10:11 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:ADSM Monitor ...

Hi,

A long time ago, I offered the list my ADSM Monitor. Today I'm offering my
new improved deluxe version to anyone who wants a copy.

This is an HTML interface to a monitor that checks at regular intervals for
outstanding tape mounts. The "Lazy Operator" (that's me) can then mount the
tape and click a button on his/her favorite browser to keep ADSM happy.
Outstanding requests etc are effectively highlighted ;-)

There are of course plenty of other features to make life easier, and this
version also traps some of the common errors that our site manages to
produce. (Adding more traps is easy to do).

A slight re-write has made the whole thing a bit more "user friendly",
halved the code base, saved a few dolphins and bought peace to computer
rooms the world over.

To run this you will need (or be able to convert from) ...

A *nix machine (ours is AIX on RS/6000) capable of issuing "dsmadmc"
commands (ie running ADSM) from a shell script, running a web server (we're
using Apache), and PERL. (I'm sure I can ditch the PERL - it's only used in
a very small cgi script. More research needed).

I don't have an install script, and you will need to change a few settings
here and there to suit your site. I have tried to make this as easy as
possible though - maybe an hour to install and make any required changes.

If you would like a copy, email me (seanv) at woolworths.co.nz - I'll
respond ASAP. (It is of course FREE and less than 140k in size).

To those who tried the old version - this one looks pretty much the same ...
more functions & better code though. Well worth an upgrade.

Sean Voyce.
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Re: ADSM versions

[Kelly J. Lipp]

http://www.tivoli.com/support/storage_mgr/requirements.html

Will get you close.

http://www.tivoli.com/support/storage_mgr/clients.html#hp

Will get you dead on.

Tons of information available here.

Kelly J. Lipp
Storage Solutions Specialists, Inc.
PO Box 51313
Colorado Springs CO 80949-1313
(719) 531-5926
Fax: (240) 539-7175
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www.storsol.com
www.storserver.com


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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Evans, William C
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 8:51 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ADSM versions


Listers,
  I need to know  the latest version of the ADSM client that will run on an
HP v10.20 server.
TIA,
Bill Evans, UNIX System Administrator
Phone: 719.535.4194
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pager: 1-800-pagemci  PIN 1438754
AIM: bievans4194

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ADSM versions

[Evans, William C]

Listers,
  I need to know  the latest version of the ADSM client that will run on an
HP v10.20 server.
TIA,
Bill Evans, UNIX System Administrator
Phone: 719.535.4194
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pager: 1-800-pagemci  PIN 1438754
AIM: bievans4194

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Stan Vernaillen is out of the office

[Stan Vernaillen]

I will be out of the office from 13/08/2001 until 20/08/2001.

If you have any RS6000, E-server Pseries, AIX, Unix, SAP, APO, TSM, Milestone,
Whatever issues, Please Contact

Bruno Misseeuw at +32 2 529 14 28
or
The ESC
or
< anyone but me >

Re: Upgrade Causes 30% more data?

[Prather, Wanda]

1.  What are the clients and client software levels?

If there are a number of Win2K clients running at least TSM 3.7.2, changing
the server from 3.1 to TSM 4.1 turns on the support for "SYSTEM OBJECT"
backups, which causes most of the .dll and .exe files in the
Windows/system32 directory to be backed up every day, whether changed or
not.  It's about 200MB per client per day additional, IF you have
compression turned on, more without compression.  We have 200+ Win2K
clients;  caused us a significant increase in the amount of data per day,
plus significant growth of the TSM data base..

2.  Don't know

3.  1 implies 3

4.  2 will cause 4


-Original Message-
From: Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 6:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Upgrade Causes 30% more data?


Hi all

My customer upgraded ADSM 3.1 to TSM 4.1. Since the upgrade he has a number
of problems which I believe could all be interelated.

The symptoms are as follows:

1. 30% more data.
2. Less expiration going on.
3. Running out of scratch tapes
4. Reclamation used to free up scratch tape but this seems to be happening
less frequently.

Any ideas folks?

Mark

media mount not possible

[Lawrence Clark]

Hi:

I've
1). added a copy group for archives of Novell files
2). validated and activated the policy

When the Novell admin goes to do archives he gets:
ANS1312E Server media mount not possible, yet the drives are available.
Any suggestions?


Policy Domain Name: NOVELL
   Policy Set Name: ACTIVE
   Mgmt Class Name: NOVCLASS
   Copy Group Name: STANDARD
   Copy Group Type: Archive
Retain Version: 60
Copy Serialization: Dynamic
Copy Frequency: CMD
 Copy Mode: Absolute
  Copy Destination: NOVARCHIV
Last Update by (administrator): ADMIN
 Last Update Date/Time: 08/13/01   13:23:32
  Managing profile:

  Storage Pool Name: NOVARCHIV
   Storage Pool Type: Primary
   Device Class Name: 3494BTAPE
 Estimated Capacity (MB): 0.0
Pct Util: 0.0
Pct Migr: 0.0
 Pct Logical: 100.0
High Mig Pct: 90
 Low Mig Pct: 70
 Migration Delay: 0
  Migration Continue: Yes
   Migration Processes:
   Next Storage Pool:
Reclaim Storage Pool:
  Maximum Size Threshold: No Limit
  Access: Read/Write
 Description: Novell arch
   Overflow Location:
   Cache Migrated Files?:
  Collocate?: No
   Reclamation Threshold: 60
 Maximum Scratch Volumes Allowed: 60
   Delay Period for Volume Reuse: 0 Day(s)
  Migration in Progress?: No
Amount Migrated (MB): 0.00
Elapsed Migration Time (seconds): 0
Reclamation in Progress?: No
 Volume Being Migrated/Reclaimed:
  Last Update by (administrator): ADMIN
   Last Update Date/Time: 08/13/01   13:20:40

Policy Domain Name: NOVELL
   Policy Set Name: ACTIVE
   Default Mgmt Class Name: NOVCLASS
   Description:
Last Update by (administrator): ADMIN
 Last Update Date/Time: 06/25/01   14:33:33
  Managing profile:


Policy Domain Name: NOVELL
   Policy Set Name: NOVELLPOL
   Default Mgmt Class Name: NOVCLASS

   Description:
Last Update by (administrator): ADMIN
 Last Update Date/Time: 06/25/01   14:33:33
  Managing profile:

tsm: BACKUP>q copy type=arch

PolicyPolicyMgmt  CopyRetain
DomainSet Name  Class Group  Version
NameName  Name
- - - - 
NOVELLACTIVENOVCLASS  STANDARD60
NOVELLNOVELLPOL NOVCLASS  STANDARD60

Re: TSM Win2K 4.2.0 client scheduler problems

[Jeff Bach]

This sounds like a bad design.  How about a Correction of the Design
process?

Jeff Bach



-Original Message-
From:   Eliza Lau [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, August 09, 2001 3:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: TSM Win2K 4.2.0 client scheduler problems

I just got off the phone with TSM level 2 support.  This is a known
problem
with the Windows 2000 4.2.0 client.  It is a timing issue.  The
client
can't get the password from the server and tries 3 times.  A second
later it gets it.  The developers have no fixes for this, no APAR
either.  They may just document it as "working as designed".  Beside
getting
these erroneous errors in dsmerror.log and the event log, scheduled
backup
works just fine.

Eliza


>
> I have the excact same experience - and have found no other
solution than to
> go back to TSM v4.1 lev. 2.19. Then the problem was gone.
>
> Server: TSM v4.1 lev 1.0 on OS/390
> Client: Windows NT 4.0, SP6
>
> Henrik Bach Gravesen
> Jyske Bank A/S, Denmark
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> >
> > A user of mine is using the TSM Win2K 4.2.0 client acceptor
> > service to manage
> > the client scheduler.  The acceptor service wakes the
> > scheduler every 12 hours
> > and starts the scheduled backup with no problems.  All is well
except
> > that she is getting the error code 4099 in the application
> > event log every time
> > the scheduler wakes up (every 12 hours).  In dsmerrorlog,
> >SessOpen: Error 137 from signon authentication   (3 times)
> >
> > Password is set to generate.  GUI, command line, and
> > scheduled backups all
> > run fine.  The user is not prompted for the password.  So
> > there must not be
> > any authenication problems and the password is stored in the
registry.
> >
> > Has anyone seen this with their W2K 4.2.0 clients?  Is this
> > normal behavior?
> >
> > server - TSM 4.1.3 on AIX 4.3.3
> > client - Windows 2000 4.2.0
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Eliza Lau
> > Virginia Tech Computing Center
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 540-231-9399
> >
>


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Re: cann't start adsm serv---Urgent

[MUSTAFA BAYTAR]

Yes , after upgrade to ver 3.7.4 dsmserv started successfuly.Thanks to all for help.



Thomas Gaines
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13:14
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Mustafa,

I encountered the same problem after installing drivers for ATM NIC's on  TSM
v3.7.3; NT. I didn't want to restore the database, since the last one that had
run had failed. Since it was unlikely support would address it until it was the
latest fix level, I installed v.3.7.4 patch. The server started up fine after
this.

Cheers,

Thomas.






MUSTAFA BAYTAR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 08/14/2001 07:31:00 PM

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Subject:  cann't start adsm serv---Urgent



Hi TSM'ers

wneh im traying to  start TSM server it stops at the  Recovery log volume mount
in progress and
cannot continue.
that happened after EMC Fibre Channel interface driver installation.

[tivolisrv@root]dsmserv
ANR7800I DSMSERV generated at 23:08:28 on Apr 22 2000.

Tivoli Storage Manager for AIX-RS/6000
Version 3, Release 7, Level 3.0

Licensed Materials - Property of IBM

5697-TSM (C) Copyright IBM Corporation 1999. All rights reserved.
U.S. Government Users Restricted Rights - Use, duplication or disclosure
restricted by GSA ADP Schedule Contract with IBM Corporation.

ANR0900I Processing options file dsmserv.opt.
ANR0990I Server restart-recovery in progress.
ANR0200I Recovery log assigned capacity is 600 megabytes.
ANR0201I Database assigned capacity is 1000 megabytes.
ANR0306I Recovery log volume mount in progress.


any ideas

Re: SQL-BACKTRACK & ORACLE

[Richard L. Rhodes]

We use sql-backtrack for Sybase, but not Oracle - never wanted to
spend the money.  We've also looked at RMAN, but rejected it for
various reasons.  The incremental hot seems good, but you're still
just pulling out changed blocks, which is basically whats in the logs.

The vast majority of our oracle databases run a hot once a week and
full export on the other 6 nights as an integrity check.  Logs are
backed up nightly to tsm.

On certain large and active databases, we run hots 3 times a week
with 4 full exports.  There is a lot of log activity on these
systems, so we backup the logs to tsm each hour.

All of our Hot backups are performed by a multi-threaded ksh script
that creates a compressed backup on disk.  The current project is to
modify this script to handle raw volumes.

Rick



On 13 Aug 2001, at 15:49, Thiha Than wrote:
> hi,
>
> >Our oracle DBA claims that 'hot' incremental backups of Oracle takes as =
> >long as 'hot' full backups using SQL-BACKTRACK. Instead he does weekly =
> >full 'hot' backups of the database and backups of the redo logs thru the
> =
> >week.
>
> >Is that how others using SQL-BACKTRACK and ORACLE do thier backups?
>
>
> It's the same for backing up oracle databases using RMAN, incremental
> takes almost as long as a full backup.  I have never used sql-backtrack
> before so I cannot comment on it.  With RMAN, it has to scan through every
> single Oracle data block to find the changed block.  So the incremental
> backup will take a long time, but the amount of data sent through can be
> significantly less.
>
> regards,
> Thiha
>

Re: EMC, Timefinder, Oracle, and TSM

[Richard L. Rhodes]

In general, yes you can.

How were you planning to perform the bcv split?  The
normal ways are to either shutdown Oracle (cold backup)
or put Oracle into backup mode (hot backup).  Either way,
once restored you can force oracle into recovery mode and
roll forward through any logs.  Yes, you will have to run
in archive-log mode.

Rick

On 13 Aug 2001, at 20:52, E. J. wrote:

> I have an Oracle DB on Sun in an EMC with Timefinder.
> The plan is to use Timefinder to create BCV's of the
> DB and then back up the BCV's to TSM.  Question:  How
> can I use the BCV's and still provide the ability to
> restore to the most recent point in time?  If the
> entire database is backed-up by attaching the BCV's to
> a Backup Server then out to TSM, can the redo logs
> created on the DB Server be applied to the full DB
> backup taken via the BCVs and Backup Server?
>
> EJ
>
>
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Re: Off Topic 3494 question.

[Richard Sims]

>I have an AS400 connected to two drives in the 3494 which I theoretically
>control. I use the other two drives for TSM on an RS6000.  This AS400 is not
>configured to communicate with the library and they are having trouble doing so
>- for the last 9 months.  They back up by opening the library and inserting
>tapes directly into the drives.

Good grief!  In the absence of a 3494 device driver for AS/400, I would simply
set up a mount server agent for them on your AIX system, which would perform
mounts using either the 'mtlib' command or directly via ioctl() C functions,
with filtration to assure that they don't conflict with your two drives (or
tapes), and don't try to mount over an already-busy drive of theirs.  I'm not
familiar with AS/400 facilities: maybe they could use rsh to send their mount
requests to your AIX-based agent - or at very worst case, email requests (yes,
I've had to work with even that type).  Dismounts are strictly drive-oriented
events, so you would not have to be involved in that phase.  Ejections from the
library could also be handled by your agent.

Email me directly, Steve, if you would like to hash this over more.

   Richard Sims, BU   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

24x7 Policies and Procedures

[Diana Noble]

Hi Everyone -

Does anyone have documented policies and procedures for a 24x7 operation
with TSM.  I've been asked to put something together on what it would take
to have 24x7 coverage for TSM.  I don't need the "how to" docs for specific
TSM procedures.  Or if there is a manual or website you could point me to,
that would be great also.

Thanks,

Diana

Re: cann't start adsm serv---Urgent

[Richard Sims]

>wneh im traying to  start TSM server it stops at the  Recovery log volume mount in 
>progress and
>cannot continue.

You'll see many such postings in the www.adsm.org archives,
with customers at 3.7.3, as you are.  Going to 3.7.4 has
solved such problems in the past, though your recent
Fibre Channel interface driver installation may pose an
additional issue for you.

  Richard Sims, BU

Re: Client Backup Issue

[Richard Sims]

>In the schedule settings, you should change the OBJECTS from:
>
>   C:\TSM Backup
>
>to
>
>   C:\TSM Backup\
>
>unless you only want to back up the single file or directory named "TSM
>Backup", but I doubt that is what you want.

Andy - I have to ask: why does the software require customers to add
   a slash or backslash (depending upon architecture type) to the
end of a specification for the client to know that the object is a
directory?  As a programmer, I would write the software to simply test
for the actual object being a directory or not, rather than silently
fail to process the directory.  That is, if the customer said to back
up XYZ, I would do so upon discovering the existence of the object,
be it a file or directory.

The slash-backslash requirement is counter-intuitive for customers in
general, where operating system commands never require adding a special
character to the end of a spec to say that the object is a directory:
such commands simply proceed to honor the invoker's request and process
the object as found.  This special TSM requirement needlessly confuses
many customers, and is a pet peeve with the product.

  Richard Sims, BU

Re: cann't start adsm serv---Urgent

[Lambelet,Rene,VEVEY,GL-IS/CIS]

Hi,

is it still running ? It can take a long time. Normally you get an error
message in case of problems (in TSM, in the OS, in the EMC subsystem...)

Regards,

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> -Original Message-
> From: MUSTAFA BAYTAR [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 11:31 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  cann't start adsm serv---Urgent
> 
> Hi TSM'ers
> 
> wneh im traying to  start TSM server it stops at the  Recovery log volume
> mount in progress and
> cannot continue.
> that happened after EMC Fibre Channel interface driver installation.
> 
> [tivolisrv@root]dsmserv
> ANR7800I DSMSERV generated at 23:08:28 on Apr 22 2000.
> 
> Tivoli Storage Manager for AIX-RS/6000
> Version 3, Release 7, Level 3.0
> 
> Licensed Materials - Property of IBM
> 
> 5697-TSM (C) Copyright IBM Corporation 1999. All rights reserved.
> U.S. Government Users Restricted Rights - Use, duplication or disclosure
> restricted by GSA ADP Schedule Contract with IBM Corporation.
> 
> ANR0900I Processing options file dsmserv.opt.
> ANR0990I Server restart-recovery in progress.
> ANR0200I Recovery log assigned capacity is 600 megabytes.
> ANR0201I Database assigned capacity is 1000 megabytes.
> ANR0306I Recovery log volume mount in progress.
> 
> 
> any ideas

Re: cann't start adsm serv---Urgent

[Thomas Gaines]

Mustafa,

I encountered the same problem after installing drivers for ATM NIC's on  TSM
v3.7.3; NT. I didn't want to restore the database, since the last one that had
run had failed. Since it was unlikely support would address it until it was the
latest fix level, I installed v.3.7.4 patch. The server started up fine after
this.

Cheers,

Thomas.






MUSTAFA BAYTAR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 08/14/2001 07:31:00 PM

Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Subject:  cann't start adsm serv---Urgent



Hi TSM'ers

wneh im traying to  start TSM server it stops at the  Recovery log volume mount
in progress and
cannot continue.
that happened after EMC Fibre Channel interface driver installation.

[tivolisrv@root]dsmserv
ANR7800I DSMSERV generated at 23:08:28 on Apr 22 2000.

Tivoli Storage Manager for AIX-RS/6000
Version 3, Release 7, Level 3.0

Licensed Materials - Property of IBM

5697-TSM (C) Copyright IBM Corporation 1999. All rights reserved.
U.S. Government Users Restricted Rights - Use, duplication or disclosure
restricted by GSA ADP Schedule Contract with IBM Corporation.

ANR0900I Processing options file dsmserv.opt.
ANR0990I Server restart-recovery in progress.
ANR0200I Recovery log assigned capacity is 600 megabytes.
ANR0201I Database assigned capacity is 1000 megabytes.
ANR0306I Recovery log volume mount in progress.


any ideas

cann't start adsm serv---Urgent

[MUSTAFA BAYTAR]

Hi TSM'ers

wneh im traying to  start TSM server it stops at the  Recovery log volume mount in 
progress and
cannot continue.
that happened after EMC Fibre Channel interface driver installation.

[tivolisrv@root]dsmserv
ANR7800I DSMSERV generated at 23:08:28 on Apr 22 2000.

Tivoli Storage Manager for AIX-RS/6000
Version 3, Release 7, Level 3.0

Licensed Materials - Property of IBM

5697-TSM (C) Copyright IBM Corporation 1999. All rights reserved.
U.S. Government Users Restricted Rights - Use, duplication or disclosure
restricted by GSA ADP Schedule Contract with IBM Corporation.

ANR0900I Processing options file dsmserv.opt.
ANR0990I Server restart-recovery in progress.
ANR0200I Recovery log assigned capacity is 600 megabytes.
ANR0201I Database assigned capacity is 1000 megabytes.
ANR0306I Recovery log volume mount in progress.


any ideas