Re: TSM API
Hi Jose, > Hi - Has anyone had any experience with using the Tivoli Api. We are > embarking on exploring the API and its effectiveness > Please let me know i took the "butc" source-code from TRANSARC-AFS and included Tivoli Api calls to backup AFS-Volumes to TSM instead to tape. (like former buta from IBM and now tbutc from IBM-TRANSARC). It works under AIX 4.3 ,SOLARIS 7 and W2K. On LINUX 2.2 there have to be excluded the pthered library and replaced with dummy calles but it works also fine. Elmar Dr. Elmar Abeln email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Universitaetsrechenzentrum Im Neuenheimer Feld 293 phone: +49 (6221) 54 4513 D 69120 Heidelberg fax: +49 (6221) 54 5581 ---
Re: DLT 80 GB only gets 43GB of data on it.
Please put subjects on your questions so we can follow the discussion. OK, Native storage versus compressed numbers are a marketing game. The Magstar K-Tape is a 40GB native (120GB compressed), yet I see data stored as low as 75GB and as high as 240GB. It just depends on how compressable the data is. If the data is already compressed, the size when it is stored to tape can actually increase. DLT is a much poorer compression performer than Magstar so getting these numbers does not surprise me. Are you using client compression? There is a another possibility. You may have compression turned off, though I doubt it. -Original Message- From: Patrick Sheehan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 11:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Hey TSM'rs I was wondering why I think I should be able to utilize the 80 GIG capabilities of my tapes but it appears I am not. I average around 43 gig on most. I have a Compaq TL891 10 tape library. Anyone else have this config ??? TIA Patrick
Re: Where would I begin to answer these questions?
Ike, I have done this a little differently. What I do is identify all the cost associated with the backup process, backup servers, additional switch capacity, disk pools, tape drives, and libraries and add that up to a total dollar number. Tapes are figured separately. This infrastructure will support so many GB of disk storage on the clients involved, round numbers. This can be used to calculate a normalized cost/GB on average. You can play with the numbers of tapes and amount stored data per node to adjust a client up or down. Ultimately, the cost relates to the total number of GBs. The tape is adjusted based on the version requirements of the application/customer. If you come to Share in Nashville, I will show you how I do this for a tape library solution. -Original Message- From: Hunley, Ike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 12:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Where would I begin to answer these questions? The problem I have, is that NT servers don't report on filenames, specifying *.PST files... How much data is currently stored on file servers? - $ per GB stored How much is backed up through TSM (was daily now weekly) soft $'s associated with network traffic Does TSM store to dasd first? if so, for how long - $ per Terabyte stored When archived to tape silo's, for how long? - $ per Terabyte stored Blue Cross Blue Shield of Florida, Inc., and its subsidiary and affiliate companies are not responsible for errors or omissions in this e-mail message. Any personal comments made in this e-mail do not reflect the views of Blue Cross Blue Shield of Florida, Inc.
How do I omitt files from being backed up for one time only?
Opps! I sent my reply to the directly to mrkirra2001 rather than to the listserv. The only way that I can think of to achive this is to have two nodes. Node A backing up everything else but the directory. Node B excluding everything but the directory. Sais __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com
Re: Include/Exclude (again)
You could also specify as an object D:\whatever\whatever\whatever in the
scheduled command on the server.
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From: Alex Paschal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 2:27 PM
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Subject: Re: Include/Exclude (again)
Andrea,
You might try...
exclude *:\...\*
include D:\Oracle\backup\dev8i.dmp MCBKUP4
Alex Paschal
Storage Administrator
Freightliner, LLC
(503) 745-6850 phone/vmail
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Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 8:44 AM
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Subject: Include/Exclude (again)
Hello SMS'ers
Question again about include exclude. Server is AIX 4.3.3 tsm version is
4.2.1.9 Client is NT . The customer wants to include only the one file in
the include and exclude all the rest. Following to this is the DSM.OPT file
and this should run. Need some assistance and insight on this one.
Thanks
Andrea Mac Murray
Sen. Systems Administrator
ConAgra Foods Inc.
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Omaha,NE, 68122
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Re: AIX error ADSM_DD_LOG4
I believe this sense data indicates that the import/export element was access on your tape library. If so, it would be nothing to worry about. ..Paul At 02:48 PM 2/25/2002 +1100, Subash, Chandra wrote: >Hi guys > >I get this error . TSM runs fine . Is it something to worry about ? > >LABEL: ADSM_DD_LOG4 >IDENTIFIER: 4225DB66 > >Date/Time: Mon Feb 25 11:17:10 >Sequence Number: 14254 >Machine Id: 00408ABA4C00 >Node Id: iduna >Class: H >Type:TEMP >Resource Name: lb0 >Resource Class: library >Resource Type: ADSM-SCSI-LB >Location:30-60-00-15,0 > >Description >OPERATOR INTERVENTION REQUIRED > >Probable Causes >ATTACHED SCSI TARGET DEVICE > >Failure Causes >ATTACHED SCSI TARGET DEVICE > > Recommended Actions > CORRECT THEN RETRY > CHECK POWER > CHECK PHYSICAL INSTALLATION > >Detail Data >COMMAND >060F 1600 >STATUS CODE > >SENSE DATA >0102 7000 0600 000C 2801 4000 > > > > > > > >ERROR CODE >0 >RETURN CODE >0 >REFERENCE CODE > > > > > > >Regards >Chandra Subash >Unix/ Oracle Database Administrator >Teletech International >154 Pacific Highway, St Leonards >NSW 2065 >Tel 02 -99301569 >Sydney, Australia >E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DataBase File Spaces and Selective Backups
I forgot about this option mainly because I logged it away as not very useful until now. This is the way to go. Then we just put an include in the dsm.opt and run incrementals for each directory/drive. I remember dealing with this before. Actually, the documentation is wrong in this area and it is being corrected, but not related to the documentation area for selective that you are referencing. Thanks. -Original Message- From: Alex Paschal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 5:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: DataBase File Spaces and Selective Backups Paul, One thing I notice is that in the Admin Guide for 4.2, it says that Selective backups are subject to the incl/excl list (Chapt. 12, Implementing Policies for Client Data > How Tivoli Storage Manager Selects Files for Policy Operations, page 248). I don't think the exclude /fsmnt/.../* & Selective will work, unless that paragraph is wrong. How about making a mgmtclass with copygroup MODE=ABSOLUTE and running the incremental and include/bind to that mgmtclass? The absolute mode will force it to back up whether it has changed or not, to fit your DR Media rotations. You won't have to run two backups, so you won't have to worry about expiring the old versions because they'll just be included instead of excluded. Would that work for you? I think it fits the criteria and is more easily supported if someone has to figure out what is going on. Alex -Original Message- From: Seay, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 1:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: DataBase File Spaces and Selective Backups Actually, the question is, if the include is not there will an incremental backup expire our selective backups that specified what is on the include? Inclexcl contents: exclude /fsmountpout/.../* DSMC Commands: incr /fsmountpoint selective /fsmountpoint/flatfilepath/flatfile.backup Will the above expire the inactive backup revisions? And if it does will the selective reinstate them? I know this sounds crazy but we have a very good reason for doing this. Occasionally, the modified dates on files are not changed. The way we want do our DR media rotations of database files requires everything to get backed up. A Selective guarantees this. -Original Message- From: Alex Paschal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 2:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: DataBase File Spaces and Selective Backups Paul, exclude /fsmountpoint/.../* include /fsmountpoint/flatfilepath/flatfile.backup Ah, in NT-ese, exclude f:\...\* include f:\flatfilepath\flatfile.backup This way you'll be doing an incremental of the filesystem, but the only thing you should actually backup are your flat file backups. Would that accomplish your objectives? Alex Paschal Storage Administrator Freightliner, LLC (503) 745-6850 phone/vmail -Original Message- From: Seay, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 7:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: DataBase File Spaces and Selective Backups Right now we do a lot of our database backups offline without a TDP. Many of these will stay that way because they are very small databases and setting up the TDP is just too much work and cost. However, we are concerned about what this means from a filespace and backups point of view. First of all, because we never perform an incremental against these filespaces we have no filespace statistics. Second, it is very difficult to monitor selective backups because you have to search the backups table for the entire filespace name and pick the last backup from it to get something similar. We have excepted these restrictions but we started thinking about what does this mean if an incremental accidentally got run so we are considering another approach. We believe we should be doing an incremental on every database filespace no matter what except do an exclude of every file, not directory, but file, ie. do not use the exclude.dir. However, we are concerned that this may expire all the selective backups. Before we tried it we thought we would ask what everyone else is doing. The other option would be to do a selective and then an incremental which would backup nothing because it did not change. There are only 150 files max in these filespaces anyway, so it is no big deal. You may wonder why we want to do it this way. Our plan is to segregate the database storage pools here so we can eliminate the reclamation churn. Basically, everything would expire all at once and the tape would be immediately empty. However, to make that happen, we must backup everything every time. 99% of the data files change anyway so incremental would do nothing. Paul D. Seay, Jr. Technical Specialist Naptheon, INC 757-688-8180
TSM - Image Backup on UNIX - any success stories or gotchas to share ?
We have an application that basically just continues to collect documents in a series of volumes/containers, 1 container at a time, beginning to end, until the container is full. Then it "freezes" that container and moves onto the next. One container could be >150GB (if we don't argue hard enough against it), and could contain 10's (maybe 100's) of millions of extremely small files in a very broad, very deep directory structure. Over 2 TeraBytes of these containers have been spec'd for this application. The overhead of taking a full backup is monumental and is likely to exceed a backup cycle if performed at the OS filesystem level. However, since the "used/full" containers become static and only one container is active at a time, this seems to be an ideal opportunity to utilize TSM Image Backup on a just-frozen container. I'm looking for a few brief success stories on the use of TSM Image Backup - please include time-savings, volume-sizing considerations, and any problems or precautions regarding image backupand image restore (please don't exclude that part of the story!) -thanks Kent Monthei GlaxoSmithKline
Compaq SAN and Bus Numbers beyond 7
Gang, We reconfigured a SAN to include more storage shelves. In the process, it appears that the bus number assigned to the library and drives moved from 0 to 9. Within device manager we can see the devices and within TSM we can see the devices, but the adsmscsi device driver won't start. I'm thinking it has a limitation of eight buses, 0-7 and can't actually see 9. Anybody have any ideas? Thanks, Kelly J. Lipp Storage Solutions Specialists, Inc. PO Box 51313 Colorado Springs, CO 80949 [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.storsol.com or www.storserver.com (719)531-5926 Fax: (240)539-7175
Re: Downlevel client code version
someone (you?) used nodename of AIX node on Win 2K...now you have 2 choices: delete/recreate node or manually edit TSM db to clear up unicode enabled flag. I believe that you'd better call IBM to do this for you...though this not difficult at all. Good Luck! --- Diciommo Fabio EDS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Are you experienced about this problem: > > On client side: > > 25/02/02 16:34:22 cuSignOnResp: Server rejected session; result > code: 57 > 25/02/02 16:34:22 sessOpen: Error 57 receiving SignOnResp verb from > server > 25/02/02 16:34:22 ANS1357S Session rejected: Downlevel client code > version > > On server side: > > Inside client parameters, on my TSM rel. 4.2.1.9, I see with much > surprise > client Platform is Win2K ( Client OS level 5 ), but client is AIX > platform. > I tried to update the node, but I can't modify platform type field. > How can I do ??? > Thanks to all. > > Fabio __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com
Re: DataBase File Spaces and Selective Backups
Paul, One thing I notice is that in the Admin Guide for 4.2, it says that Selective backups are subject to the incl/excl list (Chapt. 12, Implementing Policies for Client Data > How Tivoli Storage Manager Selects Files for Policy Operations, page 248). I don't think the exclude /fsmnt/.../* & Selective will work, unless that paragraph is wrong. How about making a mgmtclass with copygroup MODE=ABSOLUTE and running the incremental and include/bind to that mgmtclass? The absolute mode will force it to back up whether it has changed or not, to fit your DR Media rotations. You won't have to run two backups, so you won't have to worry about expiring the old versions because they'll just be included instead of excluded. Would that work for you? I think it fits the criteria and is more easily supported if someone has to figure out what is going on. Alex -Original Message- From: Seay, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 1:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: DataBase File Spaces and Selective Backups Actually, the question is, if the include is not there will an incremental backup expire our selective backups that specified what is on the include? Inclexcl contents: exclude /fsmountpout/.../* DSMC Commands: incr /fsmountpoint selective /fsmountpoint/flatfilepath/flatfile.backup Will the above expire the inactive backup revisions? And if it does will the selective reinstate them? I know this sounds crazy but we have a very good reason for doing this. Occasionally, the modified dates on files are not changed. The way we want do our DR media rotations of database files requires everything to get backed up. A Selective guarantees this. -Original Message- From: Alex Paschal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 2:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: DataBase File Spaces and Selective Backups Paul, exclude /fsmountpoint/.../* include /fsmountpoint/flatfilepath/flatfile.backup Ah, in NT-ese, exclude f:\...\* include f:\flatfilepath\flatfile.backup This way you'll be doing an incremental of the filesystem, but the only thing you should actually backup are your flat file backups. Would that accomplish your objectives? Alex Paschal Storage Administrator Freightliner, LLC (503) 745-6850 phone/vmail -Original Message- From: Seay, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 7:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: DataBase File Spaces and Selective Backups Right now we do a lot of our database backups offline without a TDP. Many of these will stay that way because they are very small databases and setting up the TDP is just too much work and cost. However, we are concerned about what this means from a filespace and backups point of view. First of all, because we never perform an incremental against these filespaces we have no filespace statistics. Second, it is very difficult to monitor selective backups because you have to search the backups table for the entire filespace name and pick the last backup from it to get something similar. We have excepted these restrictions but we started thinking about what does this mean if an incremental accidentally got run so we are considering another approach. We believe we should be doing an incremental on every database filespace no matter what except do an exclude of every file, not directory, but file, ie. do not use the exclude.dir. However, we are concerned that this may expire all the selective backups. Before we tried it we thought we would ask what everyone else is doing. The other option would be to do a selective and then an incremental which would backup nothing because it did not change. There are only 150 files max in these filespaces anyway, so it is no big deal. You may wonder why we want to do it this way. Our plan is to segregate the database storage pools here so we can eliminate the reclamation churn. Basically, everything would expire all at once and the tape would be immediately empty. However, to make that happen, we must backup everything every time. 99% of the data files change anyway so incremental would do nothing. Paul D. Seay, Jr. Technical Specialist Naptheon, INC 757-688-8180
W2K and the System Objects
How do I stop the system objects (specifically the *.EXE's, *.DLL's, etc in the WINNT directory structure...) from being backed up EVERY time I do a backup on a W2K machine? These system objects are over 120MB in size and is taking up bandwidth, disk and tape space unnecessarily as they do not change that frequently. I'd be happy to back them up once a week, or ideally, when they change, as TSM was (classically) designed to do... Thanks /gjs
How do I omitt files from being backed up for one time only?
I want to run a backup of all of a hard drive, but leave out a specific subdirectory for later backing up, as that directory has files currently changing and I'll back them up later. If I use EXCLUDE, then that means the directory will NEVER be backed up, where as I do want to back up the files at some point. Thanks /gjs
How does client open files for backup?
How does the Windows NT client (v4.2) open files for backing up? Last night we had a situation that TSM was backing up a file and another application wanted to open that file for read/writing and the second app crashed. I thought TSM open the file so that it allows all other processes to also open the file for either reading or writing. Why else detect that a file has changed if this wasn't the case? Thanks /gjs
Re: DataBase File Spaces and Selective Backups
Active/inactive backup versions are processed the same, whether they came from an incremental or from a selective backup. So yes, if you normally keep only 2 versions, and do: March 1 selective March 2 incremental March 3 selective Assuming the file changed and the March 2 backup DOES send a backup version to the server: after the backup on March 3, you have ONLY the versions from March 2 and March 3. If the file didn't change after the backup on March 2, then you have two identical copies. -Original Message- From: Seay, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 4:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: DataBase File Spaces and Selective Backups Actually, the question is, if the include is not there will an incremental backup expire our selective backups that specified what is on the include? Inclexcl contents: exclude /fsmountpout/.../* DSMC Commands: incr /fsmountpoint selective /fsmountpoint/flatfilepath/flatfile.backup Will the above expire the inactive backup revisions? And if it does will the selective reinstate them? I know this sounds crazy but we have a very good reason for doing this. Occasionally, the modified dates on files are not changed. The way we want do our DR media rotations of database files requires everything to get backed up. A Selective guarantees this. -Original Message- From: Alex Paschal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 2:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: DataBase File Spaces and Selective Backups Paul, exclude /fsmountpoint/.../* include /fsmountpoint/flatfilepath/flatfile.backup Ah, in NT-ese, exclude f:\...\* include f:\flatfilepath\flatfile.backup This way you'll be doing an incremental of the filesystem, but the only thing you should actually backup are your flat file backups. Would that accomplish your objectives? Alex Paschal Storage Administrator Freightliner, LLC (503) 745-6850 phone/vmail -Original Message- From: Seay, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 7:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: DataBase File Spaces and Selective Backups Right now we do a lot of our database backups offline without a TDP. Many of these will stay that way because they are very small databases and setting up the TDP is just too much work and cost. However, we are concerned about what this means from a filespace and backups point of view. First of all, because we never perform an incremental against these filespaces we have no filespace statistics. Second, it is very difficult to monitor selective backups because you have to search the backups table for the entire filespace name and pick the last backup from it to get something similar. We have excepted these restrictions but we started thinking about what does this mean if an incremental accidentally got run so we are considering another approach. We believe we should be doing an incremental on every database filespace no matter what except do an exclude of every file, not directory, but file, ie. do not use the exclude.dir. However, we are concerned that this may expire all the selective backups. Before we tried it we thought we would ask what everyone else is doing. The other option would be to do a selective and then an incremental which would backup nothing because it did not change. There are only 150 files max in these filespaces anyway, so it is no big deal. You may wonder why we want to do it this way. Our plan is to segregate the database storage pools here so we can eliminate the reclamation churn. Basically, everything would expire all at once and the tape would be immediately empty. However, to make that happen, we must backup everything every time. 99% of the data files change anyway so incremental would do nothing. Paul D. Seay, Jr. Technical Specialist Naptheon, INC 757-688-8180
TDP SQL 2.2, Dr. Watson error
I am installing TSM Client 4.2.1.20 and TDP SQL 2.2.0.0 on NT 4.0 SP5 with SQL server 7.0. TSM Server is 4.2.1.9 and I have a handfule of clients like this one operating o.k. The B/A client works fine. However when stating the TDP GUI, I get the initial window displayed and then real soon a Dr. Watson Application error. Error in tdpsql.exe Exception: access violation (0xc0005), Address 78001562. When I looked at Event viewer, the only additional info was Event ID 4097, and Address 78001562 (wcslen). I have totally cleaned off the old Tivoli and resinstalled this again with same results. Tivoli website only had one that sounded close, relating to TDP 1.1 and corrupt sql.log. I deleted the tdpsql.log (It was new anyhow) and tried again - same results. Thanks for help,' David B. Longo System Administrator Health First, Inc. 3300 Fiske Blvd. Rockledge, FL 32955-4305 PH 321.434.5536 Pager 321.634.8230 Fax:321.434.5525 [EMAIL PROTECTED] "MMS " made the following annotations on 02/25/02 16:46:33 -- This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary, or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it, and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. Health First reserves the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views or opinions expressed in this message are solely those of the individual sender, except (1) where the message states such views or opinions are on behalf of a particular entity; and (2) the sender is authorized by the entity to give such views or opinions. ==
Re: Atape driver level for 4.2 TSM Server
ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com/storage/devdrvr/AIX/ -Original Message- From: Nguyen, Hoa V (SAIC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 4:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Atape driver level for 4.2 TSM Server Hi Paul, Would you show me how to get to the latest Atape & atldd please. (Is there a web-side for it?) Thanks. Hoa. -Original Message- From: Seay, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 2:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Atape driver level for 4.2 TSM Server You should use the latest no matter what. -Original Message- From: Sean M English [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 3:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Atape driver level for 4.2 TSM Server *SMers, Does anyone know what Atape level I need to be at or what the recommended level is, for a TSM 4.2 server? Thanks for the help. Regards, Sean Sean M. English You can't change the wind, but you can adjust the sails.
Re: DataBase File Spaces and Selective Backups
Actually, the question is, if the include is not there will an incremental backup expire our selective backups that specified what is on the include? Inclexcl contents: exclude /fsmountpout/.../* DSMC Commands: incr /fsmountpoint selective /fsmountpoint/flatfilepath/flatfile.backup Will the above expire the inactive backup revisions? And if it does will the selective reinstate them? I know this sounds crazy but we have a very good reason for doing this. Occasionally, the modified dates on files are not changed. The way we want do our DR media rotations of database files requires everything to get backed up. A Selective guarantees this. -Original Message- From: Alex Paschal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 2:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: DataBase File Spaces and Selective Backups Paul, exclude /fsmountpoint/.../* include /fsmountpoint/flatfilepath/flatfile.backup Ah, in NT-ese, exclude f:\...\* include f:\flatfilepath\flatfile.backup This way you'll be doing an incremental of the filesystem, but the only thing you should actually backup are your flat file backups. Would that accomplish your objectives? Alex Paschal Storage Administrator Freightliner, LLC (503) 745-6850 phone/vmail -Original Message- From: Seay, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 7:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: DataBase File Spaces and Selective Backups Right now we do a lot of our database backups offline without a TDP. Many of these will stay that way because they are very small databases and setting up the TDP is just too much work and cost. However, we are concerned about what this means from a filespace and backups point of view. First of all, because we never perform an incremental against these filespaces we have no filespace statistics. Second, it is very difficult to monitor selective backups because you have to search the backups table for the entire filespace name and pick the last backup from it to get something similar. We have excepted these restrictions but we started thinking about what does this mean if an incremental accidentally got run so we are considering another approach. We believe we should be doing an incremental on every database filespace no matter what except do an exclude of every file, not directory, but file, ie. do not use the exclude.dir. However, we are concerned that this may expire all the selective backups. Before we tried it we thought we would ask what everyone else is doing. The other option would be to do a selective and then an incremental which would backup nothing because it did not change. There are only 150 files max in these filespaces anyway, so it is no big deal. You may wonder why we want to do it this way. Our plan is to segregate the database storage pools here so we can eliminate the reclamation churn. Basically, everything would expire all at once and the tape would be immediately empty. However, to make that happen, we must backup everything every time. 99% of the data files change anyway so incremental would do nothing. Paul D. Seay, Jr. Technical Specialist Naptheon, INC 757-688-8180
Re: Include/Exclude (again)
OK, thanks. It helps to know the context of the question. :-)
The EXCLUDE statement (without and . extension) excludes only files, not
directories. So include/exclude statements like this:
exclude *:\...\*
INCLUDE D:\Oracle\backup\dev8i.dmp MCBKUP4
Will back up the one file plus all directories. It should *not* back up
other files, though. But it is true that traversing the directories could
take a while.
Some ideas to get around this:
- Create a schedule just for this client (if it isn't already dedicated to
the one client) and use the OBJECTS option to indicate the one file you
want to process:
OBJECTS="D:\Oracle\backup\dev8i.dmp MCBKUP4"
- Create a text file, say, C:\BACKUP.LIST, on the client machine that
contains just the fully-qualified name of the file you wish to back up.
Create a schedule just for this client (if it isn't already dedicated to
the one client) and code the OPTIONS setting like this:
OPTIONS="-FILELIST=C:\BACKUP.LIST"
This will cause the client to process only the file(s) listed in
C:\BACKUP.LIST.
See Mark Morrison's post for yet another solution.
There was a not-too-dissimilar discussion about this last year. You can
find a post I made at http://msgs.adsm.org/cgi-bin/get/adsm0108/451.html.
Regards,
Andy
Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
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Subject:Re: Include/Exclude (again)
The problem is that TSM is still backing up all the data on the client. As
I
understand we shold be able to exclude everything but one file. This is
what
we are trying to do.
-Original Message-
From: Andrew Raibeck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 2:34 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Include/Exclude (again)
Could you please explain specifically what the problem is that you are
seeing with your current configuration?
Regards,
Andy
Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
"Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.
"MacMurray, Andrea (CC-ETS Ent Storage Svcs)"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
02/25/2002 13:27
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:
Subject:Re: Include/Exclude (again)
We tried this already and in addition to this we tried:
Exclude *:\...\*
Exclude *:\...\*.*
Exclude *:\*
Exclude *:\*.*
Andrea
-Original Message-
From: Alex Paschal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 1:27 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Include/Exclude (again)
Andrea,
You might try...
exclude *:\...\*
include D:\Oracle\backup\dev8i.dmp MCBKUP4
Alex Paschal
Storage Administrator
Freightliner, LLC
(503) 745-6850 phone/vmail
-Original Message-
From: MacMurray, Andrea (CC-ETS Ent Storage Svcs)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 8:44 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Include/Exclude (again)
Hello SMS'ers
Question again about include exclude. Server is AIX 4.3.3 tsm version is
4.2.1.9 Client is NT . The customer wants to include only the one file in
the include and exclude all the rest. Following to this is the DSM.OPT
file
and this should run. Need some assistance and insight on this one.
Thanks
Andrea Mac Murray
Sen. Systems Administrator
ConAgra Foods Inc.
7300 World Communication Dr.
Omaha,NE, 68122
Ph:(402) 577-3603
Fax;(402) 577-3515
ERRORLOGRETENTION 5 D
SCHEDLOGRETENTION 5 D
PASSWORDACCESS GENERATE
LARGECOMMBUFFERSNO
COMMMETHOD TCPIP
TCPSERVERADDRESScagadsm3.conagra.cag
TCPPORT 1500
TCPBUFFSIZE 31
TCPWINDOWSIZE 24
DOMAIN D:
EXCLUDE.DIR \\*\*\*
EXCLUDE {abcd}:*
EXCLUDE.DIR {abcd}:*
INCLUDE.FILE D:\Oracle\backup\dev8i.dmp MCBKUP4
VERBOSE
DIRMC MCBKUP4
Re: Atape driver level for 4.2 TSM Server
Hi Paul, Would you show me how to get to the latest Atape & atldd please. (Is there a web-side for it?) Thanks. Hoa. -Original Message- From: Seay, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 2:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Atape driver level for 4.2 TSM Server You should use the latest no matter what. -Original Message- From: Sean M English [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 3:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Atape driver level for 4.2 TSM Server *SMers, Does anyone know what Atape level I need to be at or what the recommended level is, for a TSM 4.2 server? Thanks for the help. Regards, Sean Sean M. English You can't change the wind, but you can adjust the sails.
Re: Atape driver level for 4.2 TSM Server
You should use the latest no matter what. -Original Message- From: Sean M English [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 3:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Atape driver level for 4.2 TSM Server *SMers, Does anyone know what Atape level I need to be at or what the recommended level is, for a TSM 4.2 server? Thanks for the help. Regards, Sean Sean M. English You can't change the wind, but you can adjust the sails.
Atape driver level for 4.2 TSM Server
*SMers, Does anyone know what Atape level I need to be at or what the recommended level is, for a TSM 4.2 server? Thanks for the help. Regards, Sean Sean M. English You can't change the wind, but you can adjust the sails.
Re: Include/Exclude (again)
The problem is that TSM is still backing up all the data on the client. As I
understand we shold be able to exclude everything but one file. This is what
we are trying to do.
-Original Message-
From: Andrew Raibeck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 2:34 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Include/Exclude (again)
Could you please explain specifically what the problem is that you are
seeing with your current configuration?
Regards,
Andy
Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
"Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.
"MacMurray, Andrea (CC-ETS Ent Storage Svcs)"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
02/25/2002 13:27
Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:
Subject:Re: Include/Exclude (again)
We tried this already and in addition to this we tried:
Exclude *:\...\*
Exclude *:\...\*.*
Exclude *:\*
Exclude *:\*.*
Andrea
-Original Message-
From: Alex Paschal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 1:27 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Include/Exclude (again)
Andrea,
You might try...
exclude *:\...\*
include D:\Oracle\backup\dev8i.dmp MCBKUP4
Alex Paschal
Storage Administrator
Freightliner, LLC
(503) 745-6850 phone/vmail
-Original Message-
From: MacMurray, Andrea (CC-ETS Ent Storage Svcs)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 8:44 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Include/Exclude (again)
Hello SMS'ers
Question again about include exclude. Server is AIX 4.3.3 tsm version is
4.2.1.9 Client is NT . The customer wants to include only the one file in
the include and exclude all the rest. Following to this is the DSM.OPT
file
and this should run. Need some assistance and insight on this one.
Thanks
Andrea Mac Murray
Sen. Systems Administrator
ConAgra Foods Inc.
7300 World Communication Dr.
Omaha,NE, 68122
Ph:(402) 577-3603
Fax;(402) 577-3515
ERRORLOGRETENTION 5 D
SCHEDLOGRETENTION 5 D
PASSWORDACCESS GENERATE
LARGECOMMBUFFERSNO
COMMMETHOD TCPIP
TCPSERVERADDRESScagadsm3.conagra.cag
TCPPORT 1500
TCPBUFFSIZE 31
TCPWINDOWSIZE 24
DOMAIN D:
EXCLUDE.DIR \\*\*\*
EXCLUDE {abcd}:*
EXCLUDE.DIR {abcd}:*
INCLUDE.FILE D:\Oracle\backup\dev8i.dmp MCBKUP4
VERBOSE
DIRMC MCBKUP4
Re: Include/Exclude (again)
Why don't you do a command line call from the tsm scheduler and only have the one file
to back up from the command line. I use this and it works fine.
Here is "hrarchive.cmd" located on the server. I call this using TSM command
scheduler:
set path=%path%;c:\progra~1\tivoli\tsm\baclient
set dsm_config=c:\progra~1\tivoli\tsm\oraclescripts\dsmhr.opt
set dsm_dir=c:\progra~1\tivoli\tsm\baclient
Echo "" >> c:\progra~1\tivoli\tsm\hrarchive.log
Echo "" >> c:\progra~1\tivoli\tsm\hrarchive.log.
Echo "archive backup starting..." >> c:\progra~1\tivoli\tsm\hrarchive.log
Date /t >> c:\progra~1\tivoli\tsm\hrarchive.log
time /t >> c:\progra~1\tivoli\tsm\hrarchive.log
c:\progra~1\tivoli\tsm\baclient\dsmc inc f:\archive\specific file here -subdir=yes >>
c:\progra~1\tivoli\tsm\hrarchive.log
echo "archive backup ending..." >> c:\progra~1\tivoli\tsm\hrarchive.log
date /t >> c:\progra~1\tivoli\tsm\hrarchive.log
time /t >> c:\progra~1\tivoli\tsm\hrarchive.log
"dsmhr.opt"
NODENAME "ServerName"
LANG AMENG
COMPRESSION NO
TCPNODELAY NO
*RESOURCEUTILIZATION 6
COMMMETHOD TCPIP
TCPSERVERADDRESS 192.168.1.2
TXNBYTELIMIT 25600
TCPBUFFSIZE 512
TCPWINDOWSIZE 2048
TCPPORT 1500
HTTPPORT 1581
PASSWORDACCESS GENERATE
GUITREEVIEWAFTERBACKUP YES
QUERYSCHEDPERIOD 1
SCHEDMODE POLLING
errorlogname c:\progra~1\tivoli\tsm\hourerr.log
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/25 3:27 PM >>>
We tried this already and in addition to this we tried:
Exclude *:\...\*
Exclude *:\...\*.*
Exclude *:\*
Exclude *:\*.*
Andrea
-Original Message-
From: Alex Paschal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 1:27 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Include/Exclude (again)
Andrea,
You might try...
exclude *:\...\*
include D:\Oracle\backup\dev8i.dmp MCBKUP4
Alex Paschal
Storage Administrator
Freightliner, LLC
(503) 745-6850 phone/vmail
-Original Message-
From: MacMurray, Andrea (CC-ETS Ent Storage Svcs)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 8:44 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Include/Exclude (again)
Hello SMS'ers
Question again about include exclude. Server is AIX 4.3.3 tsm version is
4.2.1.9 Client is NT . The customer wants to include only the one file in
the include and exclude all the rest. Following to this is the DSM.OPT file
and this should run. Need some assistance and insight on this one.
Thanks
Andrea Mac Murray
Sen. Systems Administrator
ConAgra Foods Inc.
7300 World Communication Dr.
Omaha,NE, 68122
Ph:(402) 577-3603
Fax;(402) 577-3515
ERRORLOGRETENTION 5 D
SCHEDLOGRETENTION 5 D
PASSWORDACCESS GENERATE
LARGECOMMBUFFERSNO
COMMMETHOD TCPIP
TCPSERVERADDRESScagadsm3.conagra.cag
TCPPORT 1500
TCPBUFFSIZE 31
TCPWINDOWSIZE 24
DOMAIN D:
EXCLUDE.DIR \\*\*\*
EXCLUDE {abcd}:*
EXCLUDE.DIR {abcd}:*
INCLUDE.FILE D:\Oracle\backup\dev8i.dmp MCBKUP4
VERBOSE
DIRMC MCBKUP4
TSM API
Hi - Has anyone had any experience with using the Tivoli Api. We are embarking on exploring the API and its effectiveness Please let me know Thanks Jose Rivera *** This message and any attachments is solely for the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, disclosure, copying, use, or distribution of the information included in this message is prohibited -- please immediately and permanently delete this message.
Re: Include/Exclude (again)
Could you please explain specifically what the problem is that you are
seeing with your current configuration?
Regards,
Andy
Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
"Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.
"MacMurray, Andrea (CC-ETS Ent Storage Svcs)"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
02/25/2002 13:27
Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:
Subject:Re: Include/Exclude (again)
We tried this already and in addition to this we tried:
Exclude *:\...\*
Exclude *:\...\*.*
Exclude *:\*
Exclude *:\*.*
Andrea
-Original Message-
From: Alex Paschal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 1:27 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Include/Exclude (again)
Andrea,
You might try...
exclude *:\...\*
include D:\Oracle\backup\dev8i.dmp MCBKUP4
Alex Paschal
Storage Administrator
Freightliner, LLC
(503) 745-6850 phone/vmail
-Original Message-
From: MacMurray, Andrea (CC-ETS Ent Storage Svcs)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 8:44 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Include/Exclude (again)
Hello SMS'ers
Question again about include exclude. Server is AIX 4.3.3 tsm version is
4.2.1.9 Client is NT . The customer wants to include only the one file in
the include and exclude all the rest. Following to this is the DSM.OPT
file
and this should run. Need some assistance and insight on this one.
Thanks
Andrea Mac Murray
Sen. Systems Administrator
ConAgra Foods Inc.
7300 World Communication Dr.
Omaha,NE, 68122
Ph:(402) 577-3603
Fax;(402) 577-3515
ERRORLOGRETENTION 5 D
SCHEDLOGRETENTION 5 D
PASSWORDACCESS GENERATE
LARGECOMMBUFFERSNO
COMMMETHOD TCPIP
TCPSERVERADDRESScagadsm3.conagra.cag
TCPPORT 1500
TCPBUFFSIZE 31
TCPWINDOWSIZE 24
DOMAIN D:
EXCLUDE.DIR \\*\*\*
EXCLUDE {abcd}:*
EXCLUDE.DIR {abcd}:*
INCLUDE.FILE D:\Oracle\backup\dev8i.dmp MCBKUP4
VERBOSE
DIRMC MCBKUP4
Re: Include/Exclude (again)
We tried this already and in addition to this we tried:
Exclude *:\...\*
Exclude *:\...\*.*
Exclude *:\*
Exclude *:\*.*
Andrea
-Original Message-
From: Alex Paschal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 1:27 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Include/Exclude (again)
Andrea,
You might try...
exclude *:\...\*
include D:\Oracle\backup\dev8i.dmp MCBKUP4
Alex Paschal
Storage Administrator
Freightliner, LLC
(503) 745-6850 phone/vmail
-Original Message-
From: MacMurray, Andrea (CC-ETS Ent Storage Svcs)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 8:44 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Include/Exclude (again)
Hello SMS'ers
Question again about include exclude. Server is AIX 4.3.3 tsm version is
4.2.1.9 Client is NT . The customer wants to include only the one file in
the include and exclude all the rest. Following to this is the DSM.OPT file
and this should run. Need some assistance and insight on this one.
Thanks
Andrea Mac Murray
Sen. Systems Administrator
ConAgra Foods Inc.
7300 World Communication Dr.
Omaha,NE, 68122
Ph:(402) 577-3603
Fax;(402) 577-3515
ERRORLOGRETENTION 5 D
SCHEDLOGRETENTION 5 D
PASSWORDACCESS GENERATE
LARGECOMMBUFFERSNO
COMMMETHOD TCPIP
TCPSERVERADDRESScagadsm3.conagra.cag
TCPPORT 1500
TCPBUFFSIZE 31
TCPWINDOWSIZE 24
DOMAIN D:
EXCLUDE.DIR \\*\*\*
EXCLUDE {abcd}:*
EXCLUDE.DIR {abcd}:*
INCLUDE.FILE D:\Oracle\backup\dev8i.dmp MCBKUP4
VERBOSE
DIRMC MCBKUP4
Re: Spontaneous management class rebinding - how to resolve?
Wanda, you're right - setting the original/default Management Class
retention settings 1 higher/longer resolved the problem. After changing
the settings, the first thing we did was clean up the mess - we emptied
all the unwanted TDP_OFFSITE volumes (those with 0.0 percent full) using move data
vol# DISKPOOL, then migrated the misplaced data to TAPEPOOL where it belonged in the
first place.
- thanks !
Kent Monthei
GlaxoSmithKline
"Prather, Wanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
25-Feb-2002 11:45
Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: ADSM-L
cc:
Subject:Re: Spontaneous management class rebinding - how to resolve?
You've almost got it - it probably IS a "longest-retention issue".
Andy Raibeck discussed this at length in Oct 2001 (if you want to go back
and search www.adsm.org, search on :
Raibeck Strange Behaviour
Andy said:
"If two or more management classes have the largest RETONLY setting,
then it is
undocumented as to which class will be selected."
"Undocumented" means, I think, random results. TSM is not smart enough to
prefer the DEFAULT, if the RETONLY settings are the same.
Change your DEFAULT class to be 1 day longer than the others, and I bet
the
problem goes away.
-Original Message-
From: Kent Monthei [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 6:52 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Spontaneous management class rebinding - how to resolve?
We're having a problem with Notes transaction logging on a Notes Domino
server, so turned off Notes transaction logging and planned to perform
full backups directly to a new, collocated off-site tapepool TDP_OFFSITE
defined for this purpose and this one problem node.
We defined a second management class TDPTAPE in the existing policyset,
with a destination of TDP_OFFSITE instead of diskpool. The original
Management Class still points to diskpool and is the Default Management
Class for the domain/policyset.
We then defined a new schedule, associated that 1 client with it and added
the TDPTAPE Management Class binding to the 'include' statements in the
TDP-Domino 'dsm.opt' file.
Everything worked for this client as expected. The full (TDP 'selective')
backup went directly to the new TDP_OFFSITE tapepool.
However, much to our surprise (& I know you experienced ADSM/TSM'ers out
there have heard this before), a whole bunch of other clients also started
mounting scratch tapes for the new TDP_OFFSITE tapepool and dumping small
amounts of data - probably directory info. Almost 30 tapes were written,
most with 0.0 percent utilization. The TSM Server's tape library also
thrashed all night mounting/unmounting/remounting tapes over 30 times
each.
I'm certain that this is due to spontaneous Management Class rebinding. I
just don't know what caused it. I'm aware of the "longest-retention"
issue. However, the verexists/verdeleted/retextra/retonly settings on the
new Management Class's copygroups are identical to the default Management
Class's copygroups, so it shouldn't be rebinding to the new Management
Class for that reason (right??).
What gives?
One more thing - none of the clients have optionsets ('DIRMC' not set).
Doesn't 'DIRMC' default to the Default Management Class, as long as its
copygroups' retention settings aren't exceeded by some other Management
Class's copygroups' settings? Which retention setting triggers MC
rebinding? Does 'DIRMC' need to be set for all those other servers, to
ensure that they backup everything to the default Management Class ?
-rsvp, thanks (experienced help appreciated)
Kent Monthei
GlaxoSmithKline
Re: Include/Exclude (again)
Andrea,
You might try...
exclude *:\...\*
include D:\Oracle\backup\dev8i.dmp MCBKUP4
Alex Paschal
Storage Administrator
Freightliner, LLC
(503) 745-6850 phone/vmail
-Original Message-
From: MacMurray, Andrea (CC-ETS Ent Storage Svcs)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 8:44 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Include/Exclude (again)
Hello SMS'ers
Question again about include exclude. Server is AIX 4.3.3 tsm version is
4.2.1.9 Client is NT . The customer wants to include only the one file in
the include and exclude all the rest. Following to this is the DSM.OPT file
and this should run. Need some assistance and insight on this one.
Thanks
Andrea Mac Murray
Sen. Systems Administrator
ConAgra Foods Inc.
7300 World Communication Dr.
Omaha,NE, 68122
Ph:(402) 577-3603
Fax;(402) 577-3515
ERRORLOGRETENTION 5 D
SCHEDLOGRETENTION 5 D
PASSWORDACCESS GENERATE
LARGECOMMBUFFERSNO
COMMMETHOD TCPIP
TCPSERVERADDRESScagadsm3.conagra.cag
TCPPORT 1500
TCPBUFFSIZE 31
TCPWINDOWSIZE 24
DOMAIN D:
EXCLUDE.DIR \\*\*\*
EXCLUDE {abcd}:*
EXCLUDE.DIR {abcd}:*
INCLUDE.FILE D:\Oracle\backup\dev8i.dmp MCBKUP4
VERBOSE
DIRMC MCBKUP4
Re: DataBase File Spaces and Selective Backups
Paul, exclude /fsmountpoint/.../* include /fsmountpoint/flatfilepath/flatfile.backup Ah, in NT-ese, exclude f:\...\* include f:\flatfilepath\flatfile.backup This way you'll be doing an incremental of the filesystem, but the only thing you should actually backup are your flat file backups. Would that accomplish your objectives? Alex Paschal Storage Administrator Freightliner, LLC (503) 745-6850 phone/vmail -Original Message- From: Seay, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 7:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: DataBase File Spaces and Selective Backups Right now we do a lot of our database backups offline without a TDP. Many of these will stay that way because they are very small databases and setting up the TDP is just too much work and cost. However, we are concerned about what this means from a filespace and backups point of view. First of all, because we never perform an incremental against these filespaces we have no filespace statistics. Second, it is very difficult to monitor selective backups because you have to search the backups table for the entire filespace name and pick the last backup from it to get something similar. We have excepted these restrictions but we started thinking about what does this mean if an incremental accidentally got run so we are considering another approach. We believe we should be doing an incremental on every database filespace no matter what except do an exclude of every file, not directory, but file, ie. do not use the exclude.dir. However, we are concerned that this may expire all the selective backups. Before we tried it we thought we would ask what everyone else is doing. The other option would be to do a selective and then an incremental which would backup nothing because it did not change. There are only 150 files max in these filespaces anyway, so it is no big deal. You may wonder why we want to do it this way. Our plan is to segregate the database storage pools here so we can eliminate the reclamation churn. Basically, everything would expire all at once and the tape would be immediately empty. However, to make that happen, we must backup everything every time. 99% of the data files change anyway so incremental would do nothing. Paul D. Seay, Jr. Technical Specialist Naptheon, INC 757-688-8180
Re: MS SQL TDP help
> The problem is, that the scheduler performs both backups, but the one that > is supposed to be a TDP backup, remains a regular windows backup. It does > not backup the database, but the same windows files that the regular ba > client performs. Bob, What kind of schedule do you have defined for TDP for SQL? It should be a "COMMAND" type schedule. The COMMAND type schedule will call a specific batch file that you have set up that runs the specific TDP for SQL command. It sounds like you just have another BA client type "full" or "incremental" schedule set up instead of the kind required (ACTION=COMMAND) for TDP for SQL. Please read Appendix C in the TDP for SQL User's Guide for exact details on setting this up. Thanks, Del Del Hoobler IBM Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Celebrate we will. Life is short but sweet for certain..." -- Dave
Re: MS SQL TDP help
I think the main thing is that the schedule you have set up for the TDP SQL backup is defined as ACTION : INCREMENTAL as a normal backup. For TDP backups ACTION should be COMMAND and in the OBJECTS parameter shoukld be something like "C:\Progra~1\Tivoli\TSM\TDPSql\sqlfull.cmd" You have an sqlfull.smp files as installed, need to copy this to sqlfull.cmd and make any needed changes. Also make changes to the dsm.opt file in TDPSql dir. Make entries for INCLUDE statements to reflect the management class you want backups to be bound to. The way this all works has changed significantly from TDP SQL 1.1, if you had it. Note also that TDP 2.2 will not work with SQL 6.5 DB's or lower, if you have any. Suggest download the TDP SQL 2.2 PDF manual from www.tivoli.com. You don't need online acount to do this. David Longo >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/25/02 01:37PM >>> I am hoping someone can give some insight into problems I am having getting the MS SQL TDP V2 to run on a Windows 2K box. The main problem I am having is with the scheduler. The box runs both normal backups, and TDP backups via a scheduler service. The TDP options file lists a separate port '1502' for the TCPclientport, and the box is listening on both 1501 (normal) and 1502 (TDP) in it's netstat listing. The TDP options file also lists a different node name for the TDP backup. The problem is, that the scheduler performs both backups, but the one that is supposed to be a TDP backup, remains a regular windows backup. It does not backup the database, but the same windows files that the regular ba client performs. I am a TDP newbie, and I don't do windows, so I am kind of at a loss as to where to start on this one. We have tried removing the node, the schedule, and starting over. If you run the backup by hand, the system lists the node as a TDP type client, but once the schedule runs, it reverts back to WinNT, and backs up C$ and D$. The client does not seem to be invoking the TDP module for this schedule, but we can't figure out why. The server is AIX V4.3.3 running TSM 4.1.5. Thanks for any assistance. Bob "MMS " made the following annotations on 02/25/02 14:10:57 -- This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary, or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it, and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. Health First reserves the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views or opinions expressed in this message are solely those of the individual sender, except (1) where the message states such views or opinions are on behalf of a particular entity; and (2) the sender is authorized by the entity to give such views or opinions. ==
Re: MS SQL TDP help
Bob, when you schedule the backup on the TSM server what action are you scheduling? I know with the Exchange TDP it must be COMMAND and you must have a batch file on the Exchange server that actually does the backup. Mark -Original Message- From: Bob Booth - UIUC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 1:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MS SQL TDP help I am hoping someone can give some insight into problems I am having getting the MS SQL TDP V2 to run on a Windows 2K box. The main problem I am having is with the scheduler. The box runs both normal backups, and TDP backups via a scheduler service. The TDP options file lists a separate port '1502' for the TCPclientport, and the box is listening on both 1501 (normal) and 1502 (TDP) in it's netstat listing. The TDP options file also lists a different node name for the TDP backup. The problem is, that the scheduler performs both backups, but the one that is supposed to be a TDP backup, remains a regular windows backup. It does not backup the database, but the same windows files that the regular ba client performs. I am a TDP newbie, and I don't do windows, so I am kind of at a loss as to where to start on this one. We have tried removing the node, the schedule, and starting over. If you run the backup by hand, the system lists the node as a TDP type client, but once the schedule runs, it reverts back to WinNT, and backs up C$ and D$. The client does not seem to be invoking the TDP module for this schedule, but we can't figure out why. The server is AIX V4.3.3 running TSM 4.1.5. Thanks for any assistance. Bob Confidentiality Note: The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to whom or which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this in error, please delete this material immediately.
MS SQL TDP help
I am hoping someone can give some insight into problems I am having getting the MS SQL TDP V2 to run on a Windows 2K box. The main problem I am having is with the scheduler. The box runs both normal backups, and TDP backups via a scheduler service. The TDP options file lists a separate port '1502' for the TCPclientport, and the box is listening on both 1501 (normal) and 1502 (TDP) in it's netstat listing. The TDP options file also lists a different node name for the TDP backup. The problem is, that the scheduler performs both backups, but the one that is supposed to be a TDP backup, remains a regular windows backup. It does not backup the database, but the same windows files that the regular ba client performs. I am a TDP newbie, and I don't do windows, so I am kind of at a loss as to where to start on this one. We have tried removing the node, the schedule, and starting over. If you run the backup by hand, the system lists the node as a TDP type client, but once the schedule runs, it reverts back to WinNT, and backs up C$ and D$. The client does not seem to be invoking the TDP module for this schedule, but we can't figure out why. The server is AIX V4.3.3 running TSM 4.1.5. Thanks for any assistance. Bob
Re: backup of win2k system files fails
> One windows 2000 server backup fails when trying to backup the system > files. > The backup is being run under the administrator account. Nothing of > interest is logged in the TSM folders or in the TSM server application > log. > The windows application log contains the following entry. Any suggestions > as how to solve this problem would be appreciated. > > Event Type: Warning > Event Source: PerfProc > Event Category: None > Event ID: 2002 > Date: 2/24/2002 > Time: 10:45:35 PM > User: N/A > Computer: A23 > Description: > Unable to open the job object Winlogon Job 0-298f2 for query access. The > calling process may not have permission to open this Job. The status > returned is data DWORD 0. > Data: > : 02 00 00 00 > Hello , what does the dsmsched.log say? are only system objects failing or the complete backup? Which client-version do you use? I made the expierience whith early 4.1.x -Version, that only backing up system object of W2k-Clients failed. MfG Michael -- GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net
Include/Exclude (again)
Hello SMS'ers
Question again about include exclude. Server is AIX 4.3.3 tsm version is
4.2.1.9 Client is NT . The customer wants to include only the one file in
the include and exclude all the rest. Following to this is the DSM.OPT file
and this should run. Need some assistance and insight on this one.
Thanks
Andrea Mac Murray
Sen. Systems Administrator
ConAgra Foods Inc.
7300 World Communication Dr.
Omaha,NE, 68122
Ph:(402) 577-3603
Fax;(402) 577-3515
ERRORLOGRETENTION 5 D
SCHEDLOGRETENTION 5 D
PASSWORDACCESS GENERATE
LARGECOMMBUFFERSNO
COMMMETHOD TCPIP
TCPSERVERADDRESScagadsm3.conagra.cag
TCPPORT 1500
TCPBUFFSIZE 31
TCPWINDOWSIZE 24
DOMAIN D:
EXCLUDE.DIR \\*\*\*
EXCLUDE {abcd}:*
EXCLUDE.DIR {abcd}:*
INCLUDE.FILE D:\Oracle\backup\dev8i.dmp MCBKUP4
VERBOSE
DIRMC MCBKUP4
FW: Include/Exclude (again)
> -Original Message-
> From: MacMurray, Andrea (CC-ETS Ent Storage Svcs)
> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 10:44 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Include/Exclude (again)
>
> Hello SMS'ers
> Question again about include exclude. Server is AIX 4.3.3 tsm version is
> 4.2.1.9 Client is NT . The customer wants to include only the one file in
> the include and exclude all the rest. Following to this is the DSM.OPT
> file and this should run. Need some assistance and insight on this one.
>
> Thanks
>
> Andrea Mac Murray
> Sen. Systems Administrator
> ConAgra Foods Inc.
> 7300 World Communication Dr.
> Omaha,NE, 68122
> Ph:(402) 577-3603
> Fax;(402) 577-3515
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ERRORLOGRETENTION 5 D
> SCHEDLOGRETENTION 5 D
> PASSWORDACCESSGENERATE
>
> LARGECOMMBUFFERS NO
> COMMMETHODTCPIP
> TCPSERVERADDRESS cagadsm3.conagra.cag
> TCPPORT 1500
> TCPBUFFSIZE 31
> TCPWINDOWSIZE 24
>
> DOMAIND:
>
> EXCLUDE.DIR \\*\*\*
> EXCLUDE {abcd}:*
> EXCLUDE.DIR {abcd}:*
>
> INCLUDE.FILE D:\Oracle\backup\dev8i.dmp MCBKUP4
>
> VERBOSE
>
> DIRMC MCBKUP4
Re: After Restoring a Volume?
If the restore had been COMPLETEly successful, ADSM would have gone ahead and deleted the volume (i.e., returned it to scratch) when the RESTORE completed. So there must be some data left on it. First list the contents and see what is there. Then I would try a MOVE DATA one more time, just to see if you can read any of what is left. Then if you are sure you can't get that data back, do the DELETE VOLUME DISCARDDATA=YES, understanding that you no longer have backups of those things in the CONTENTS list. If you got the original error while reading the label, then by all means, relabel it; you will also have to specify OVERWRITE=YES on your label libv command. But if the original error was down in the middle of the tape, relabelling probably won't do anything for you. I would just check it back in as SCRATCH, let TSM write over it again. -Original Message- From: Mark Bertrand [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 12:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: After Restoring a Volume? We have successfully restored a volume and ADSM has kindly marked it as destroyed as advertised. What do I need to do next, do I need to DELETE VOLUME DISCARDDATA=YES before I can try to run it through again? If that works, then what, do I do a re-label as in, label libvol lto1 search=bulk checkin=scratch labelsource=barcode? Thanks, Mark Bertrand
Re: Select Stmts. in TSM: What is an OUTER JOIN
Is anyone else getting multiple (about one an hour) of this message from Paul? -Original Message- From: Seay, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 2:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Select Stmts. in TSM: What is an OUTER JOIN An OUTER join really does not apply to an application like TSM. There is a right, left and plain. An OUTER basically keeps the left or right select (or both) and joins what it can with the items that do not match having null results. -Original Message- From: Prather, Wanda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Select Stmts. in TSM Here is a script that does a join; it's just std SQL syntax. /* Show filespaces not backed up in 6 months w/space on server */ /* This query runs a long time; suggest writing output to a file */ /* Also strongly recommend running in commadelimited mode*/ select oc.node_name, oc.filespace_name as filespace, - physical_mb as "mbytes " , stgpool_name as stgpool, - date(fs.backup_start) as bkup_date - from occupancy oc, filespaces fs - where oc.node_name=fs.node_name - and oc.filespace_name=fs.filespace_name - and cast((current_timestamp-backup_start)days as integer)>=183 - order by stgpool_name, oc.node_name, oc.filespace_name You can't do an "outer join" (whatever that is... I'm just learning this stuff...) Wanda Prather The Johns Hopkins Applied Physics Lab 443-778-8769 [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Intelligence has much less practical application than you'd think" - Scott Adams/Dilbert -Original Message- From: Peppers, Holly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 12:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Select Stmts. in TSM Has anybody tried to do a join in the TSM tables? I went looking thru the help utility and the manuals, but did not see the syntax of how to do this. Let me know please. Thanks. Holly L. Peppers Blue Cross & Blue Shield of Florida [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blue Cross Blue Shield of Florida, Inc., and its subsidiary and affiliate companies are not responsible for errors or omissions in this e-mail message. Any personal comments made in this e-mail do not reflect the views of Blue Cross Blue Shield of Florida, Inc.
After Restoring a Volume?
We have successfully restored a volume and ADSM has kindly marked it as destroyed as advertised. What do I need to do next, do I need to DELETE VOLUME DISCARDDATA=YES before I can try to run it through again? If that works, then what, do I do a re-label as in, label libvol lto1 search=bulk checkin=scratch labelsource=barcode? Thanks, Mark Bertrand
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Thanks Gabriel I have 4 Nodes all NT and All Domino servers using TDP for Domino to do so. I don't use collocation or archiving and use a direct to tape methodology. Any recommendations??? TIA Patrick Gabriel Wiley <[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .COM>cc: Sent by: Subject: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] IST.EDU> 02/25/2002 10:57 AM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" Patrick, Is collocation turned on? How many nodes do you back up? What type of backup services are you providing? (i.e. TDP LNOTES/MSSQL/DB2/ORACLE ) ?? How many primary --to---> copypools do you have on your TSM server? Are you archiving? Each of those could have an effect on why your tapes aren't utilized the way you would like them to be... Gabriel C. Wiley ADSM/TSM Administrator AIX Support Phone 1-614-308-6709 Pager 1-877-489-2867 Fax 1-614-308-6637 Cell 1-740-972-6441 Siempre Hay Esperanza
L700 Library
We are trying, as earlier email indicated, to run an STK L700 library with TSM 4.1.50 running on AIX 4.3.3. The library originally shipped with Seagate Viper 200 drives. We had the library configured via smitty/TSM Devices and it was listed as available but the Seagate drives were not because in preparation for IBM drives, we had installed Atape. However, we had requested IBM Ultrium drives so the drives were replaced with the IBM's and now, the drives are available to the system, but the library is not. The error message received after running cfgmgr inidcates that the package 'devices.scsi' is not installed. Anybody ever see this? Any help would be appreciated... Thanks so much! Kelli Jones Chesterfield County Information Systems Technology [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 804-748-1951 fax: 804-748-1571
Re: Specifying files to archive/backup in a file
I think you are talking about the -FILELIST client option. Check it out in the "Using the Backup-Archive Client" book, chapter 9 "Using Options with Commands". Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. "Good enough" is the enemy of excellence. Andy Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 02/25/2002 10:09 Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Specifying files to archive/backup in a file I seem to remember, unless I had a very vivid dream of this, that Tivoli introduced a way to get the filenames for a backup/archive from a file on the command line. I know I can do something like xargs -n 20 command http://andyc.dyndns.org/animal.html
Re: include.encrypt statements with TDP
hi, include.encription is not supported by TSM API. So it will not work for any TDP. regards, Thiha Date:Sat, 23 Feb 2002 00:15:14 -0500 From:"Seay, Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: include.encrypt statements with TDP I cannot find any reason why the inclexcl dsm.sys cannot have the include.encrypt used for TDP for Oracle. The dsm.sys is used by the TDP for Oracle. -Original Message- From: Dave Canan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: include.encrypt statements with TDP Is it possible to encrypt data using these include statements on the TDP agents? Specifically, I want to know if I can place these in a inclexcl file and encrypt Oracle databases being backed up with TDP for Oracle.
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Patrick, Is collocation turned on? How many nodes do you back up? What type of backup services are you providing? (i.e. TDP LNOTES/MSSQL/DB2/ORACLE ) ?? How many primary --to---> copypools do you have on your TSM server? Are you archiving? Each of those could have an effect on why your tapes aren't utilized the way you would like them to be... Gabriel C. Wiley ADSM/TSM Administrator AIX Support Phone 1-614-308-6709 Pager 1-877-489-2867 Fax 1-614-308-6637 Cell 1-740-972-6441 Siempre Hay Esperanza
Specifying files to archive/backup in a file
I seem to remember, unless I had a very vivid dream of this, that Tivoli introduced a way to get the filenames for a backup/archive from a file on the command line. I know I can do something like xargs -n 20 command http://andyc.dyndns.org/animal.html
Where would I begin to answer these questions?
The problem I have, is that NT servers don't report on filenames, specifying *.PST files... How much data is currently stored on file servers? - $ per GB stored How much is backed up through TSM (was daily now weekly) soft $'s associated with network traffic Does TSM store to dasd first? if so, for how long - $ per Terabyte stored When archived to tape silo's, for how long? - $ per Terabyte stored Blue Cross Blue Shield of Florida, Inc., and its subsidiary and affiliate companies are not responsible for errors or omissions in this e-mail message. Any personal comments made in this e-mail do not reflect the views of Blue Cross Blue Shield of Florida, Inc.
Downlevel client code version
Are you experienced about this problem: On client side: 25/02/02 16:34:22 cuSignOnResp: Server rejected session; result code: 57 25/02/02 16:34:22 sessOpen: Error 57 receiving SignOnResp verb from server 25/02/02 16:34:22 ANS1357S Session rejected: Downlevel client code version On server side: Inside client parameters, on my TSM rel. 4.2.1.9, I see with much surprise client Platform is Win2K ( Client OS level 5 ), but client is AIX platform. I tried to update the node, but I can't modify platform type field. How can I do ??? Thanks to all. Fabio
Re: IP change on AIX
It's not clear from your message, are you changing just the servers IP or all the Novell clients also? If just the server, then you also have to change the servers IP in any client's dsm.opt that connects to server by IP, unless you havd server name instead of IP. A stop and restart of scheduler on each of the clients that you change will be necessary. If you change the IP of any client then most likley you will reboot that client to set new IP and if scheduler is set to start automatically on reboot, then it should contect the server and the server will get the clients new IP. David Longo >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/25/02 09:51AM >>> Hello everyone, This is not directly related to TSM, but we are in the process of changing all of our IP addresses. On our TSM server, we are running AIX 4.3.2. Most of our file servers are Novell, so it's much easier to change IP. Is there a simple one time program to run , that will make the changes for me Thanks! Thanks, Mark Hayden Network Administrator E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "MMS " made the following annotations on 02/25/02 11:48:14 -- This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary, or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it, and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. Health First reserves the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views or opinions expressed in this message are solely those of the individual sender, except (1) where the message states such views or opinions are on behalf of a particular entity; and (2) the sender is authorized by the entity to give such views or opinions. ==
Starting Scheduler on an NT box
I am getting an internal error when I try to start up a Windows NT 4.0 Server. The error code is 2140. I am using TSM version 4.2.1. Is there any ideas on what could be my problem? Thanks Aaron Bontrager
SV:
Hi ! Your 80GB is compressed capacity. DLT-8000 offers 40GB plus compression. But the drive will not be able to compress data that are already compressed. So if you are using client compresssion on your TSM nodes, 43GB is not that bad. Regards, Jesper Matthiesen WISEhouse Denmark A/S -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Pa vegne af Patrick Sheehan Sendt: 25. februar 2002 17:26 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Hey TSM'rs I was wondering why I think I should be able to utilize the 80 GIG capabilities of my tapes but it appears I am not. I average around 43 gig on most. I have a Compaq TL891 10 tape library. Anyone else have this config ??? TIA Patrick
Re: Spontaneous management class rebinding - how to resolve?
You've almost got it - it probably IS a "longest-retention issue".
Andy Raibeck discussed this at length in Oct 2001 (if you want to go back
and search www.adsm.org, search on :
Raibeck Strange Behaviour
Andy said:
"If two or more management classes have the largest RETONLY setting,
then it is
undocumented as to which class will be selected."
"Undocumented" means, I think, random results. TSM is not smart enough to
prefer the DEFAULT, if the RETONLY settings are the same.
Change your DEFAULT class to be 1 day longer than the others, and I bet the
problem goes away.
-Original Message-
From: Kent Monthei [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 6:52 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Spontaneous management class rebinding - how to resolve?
We're having a problem with Notes transaction logging on a Notes Domino
server, so turned off Notes transaction logging and planned to perform
full backups directly to a new, collocated off-site tapepool TDP_OFFSITE
defined for this purpose and this one problem node.
We defined a second management class TDPTAPE in the existing policyset,
with a destination of TDP_OFFSITE instead of diskpool. The original
Management Class still points to diskpool and is the Default Management
Class for the domain/policyset.
We then defined a new schedule, associated that 1 client with it and added
the TDPTAPE Management Class binding to the 'include' statements in the
TDP-Domino 'dsm.opt' file.
Everything worked for this client as expected. The full (TDP 'selective')
backup went directly to the new TDP_OFFSITE tapepool.
However, much to our surprise (& I know you experienced ADSM/TSM'ers out
there have heard this before), a whole bunch of other clients also started
mounting scratch tapes for the new TDP_OFFSITE tapepool and dumping small
amounts of data - probably directory info. Almost 30 tapes were written,
most with 0.0 percent utilization. The TSM Server's tape library also
thrashed all night mounting/unmounting/remounting tapes over 30 times
each.
I'm certain that this is due to spontaneous Management Class rebinding. I
just don't know what caused it. I'm aware of the "longest-retention"
issue. However, the verexists/verdeleted/retextra/retonly settings on the
new Management Class's copygroups are identical to the default Management
Class's copygroups, so it shouldn't be rebinding to the new Management
Class for that reason (right??).
What gives?
One more thing - none of the clients have optionsets ('DIRMC' not set).
Doesn't 'DIRMC' default to the Default Management Class, as long as its
copygroups' retention settings aren't exceeded by some other Management
Class's copygroups' settings? Which retention setting triggers MC
rebinding? Does 'DIRMC' need to be set for all those other servers, to
ensure that they backup everything to the default Management Class ?
-rsvp, thanks (experienced help appreciated)
Kent Monthei
GlaxoSmithKline
AW: Performance problems with AIX PTFs
Thanks for your reply! We installed bos.rte.libc.4.3.3.80, rebooted the server - but nothing changed. I noticed that the backup sessions are always in session state "RecvW" and CPU utilization of the SAP server for backint.exe ist about 7%. Has anyone else seen this problem before? Kind regards Thomas Rupp Vorarlberger Illwerke AG MAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TEL:++43/5574/4991-251 FAX:++43/5574/4991-820-8251 > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: Flemming Larsen [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Gesendet am: Sonntag, 24. Februar 2002 18:13 > An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Betreff: Re: Performance problems with AIX PTFs > > After applying maintenance level 9 you need at least to update libc. > > See this APAR : > > Customers are encouraged to move to AIX 4.3.3 Maintenance level 09 but > there is a LARGE performance bug due to a memory leak in libc = just about > every process in AIX. Make sure the bos.rte.libc.4.3.3.77 software is > installed for ML09 > > > after AIX 433_09 aix_ml then this apar for memory leak issue. >15 > . > OF > The apar iy22308 MEMORY LEAK IN FCLOSE() SUBROUTINE > 19 > ERROR DESCRIPTION: > applications doing many file opens and closes will see an > increase in memory use and a decrease in performance > LOCAL FIX: > PROBLEM SUMMARY: > Memory leak in fclose() > PROBLEM CONCLUSION: > Fixed file threadsafe macros > . > OID > now is included in this filesets. > BDC > . > bos.adt.prof.4.3.3.77 > . > PAGE > bos.rte.libc.4.3.3.77 > > > - Original Message - > From: "Rupp Thomas (Illwerke)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 2:59 PM > Subject: Performance problems with AIX PTFs > > > > Hi TSM gurus, > > > > Our IBM SE moved our AIX TSM Server from 4.3.3.0 to PTF level 9. > > The result was that our TDP for SAP backups now take 6 hours - before > > they finished after 1 hour. > > I'm running a H50 and a 3494 with two 3590E11 drives. > > > > Has anyone else seen such dramatic performance problems after applying > > AIX PTF's? > > > > Kind regards > > Thomas Rupp > > Vorarlberger Illwerke AG > > MAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > TEL:++43/5574/4991-251 > > FAX:++43/5574/4991-820-8251 > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Dieses eMail wurde auf Viren geprueft. > > > > Vorarlberger Illwerke AG > > > -- > > > -- Dieses eMail wurde auf Viren geprueft. Vorarlberger Illwerke AG --
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Hey TSM'rs I was wondering why I think I should be able to utilize the 80 GIG capabilities of my tapes but it appears I am not. I average around 43 gig on most. I have a Compaq TL891 10 tape library. Anyone else have this config ??? TIA Patrick
Re: backup of win2k system files fails
I'm not sure that the PerfProc warning is what is causing you problems. We see this message on servers that are backing up fine. We just ran into a problem when backing up sysfiles when system files - ntldr, boot.ini etc are on a drive other than C: drive. See apar below. Search for a drwatsn32.log file to see if this is your problem. APAR= IC32636 SER=IN INCORROUT DR. WATSON IS WITNESSED WHEN BACKING UP SYSFILES IF SYSTEM FILES NTLDR, BOOT.INI, ETC. ARE ON A DRIVE OTHER THAN C: STAT= CLOSED PER FESN0907344- CTID= SJ0291 ISEV= 1 SB02/01/17 RC02/01/18 CL02/01/24 PD SEV= 1 PE= TYPE= F RCOMP= 5698TSMCLTIVOLI STR MGR RREL= R42W FCOMP= 5698TSMCLTIVOLI STR MGR PFREL= F999 TREL= T ACTION= SEC/INT= DUP/ USPTF= PDPTF= DUPS 0 DW02/01/17 RT02/01/18 SC FT RE PT UP LP PV02/01/24 AP EN FL LC02/01/24 RU02/01/24 OT CT FR TD TYPE OF SOLUTION= PROJECTED CLOSE CODE=CUST INST LVL/SU= 42W FAILING MODULE: DSMC FAILING LVL/SU= 42W SYSROUTE OF: RET APAR= PS= S STATUS DETAIL= RELIEF AVAILABLE= SCP: UNIXPLATFORM: UNIX HIPER SYMPTOMS: DATALOSS/N SYSTEMOUTAGE/NFUNCTIONLOSS/N PERFORMANCE/N PERVASIVE/N XSYSTEM/N SPEC/ATTN/N SYSRES= SYSIN= SYSOUT= CPU= RE-IPL= OPTYPE= SPECIAL ACTIVITY= REGRESSION= PRE-SCREEN NO.= RSCP= RS42W ERROR DESCRIPTION: When performing a backup of the sysfiles a Dr. Watson is witnessed: if using the Scheduler: FAULT ->004482ff 8b590cmov ebx,[ecx+0xc] ds:0083d5d2=0 if using the GUI: FAULT ->004c7c1f 8b590cmov ebx,[ecx+0xc] ds:0083d5d2=? if using the CommandLine Client: FAULT ->0044620f 8b590cmov ebx,[ecx+0xc] ds:0083d5d2=? The Dr. Watson is witnessed if the sysfiles are requested for backup directly or as part of the systemobject. The problem has been seen on NT and on NT Citrix Metaframe. For the NT machine drive D: was the boot drive when this problem was witnessed. For the Citrix machines the C: is changed to a drive suchas M: or O: during the citrix installation. LOCAL FIX: Can use the SUBST command to remap the C: drive as the location that contains the system files. SUBST C: M: . Ensure that the system boot files are on C: "ntldr", "boot.ini", "ntbootdd.sys","ntdetect.com","arcldr.exe", "arcsetup.exe" PROBLEM SUMMARY: * USERS AFFECTED: Win NT/2k/XP * * PROBLEM DESCRIPTION: DR. WATSON IS WITNESSED WHEN BACKING* * UP SYSFILES IF SYSTEM FILESNTLDR, * * BOOT.INI, ETC. ARE ON A DRIVE OTHER* * THAN C: * * RECOMMENDATION: * DR. WATSON IS WITNESSED WHEN BACKING UP SYSFILES IF SYSTEM FILESNTLDR, BOOT.INI, ETC. ARE ON A DRIVE OTHER THAN C: PROBLEM CONCLUSION: The source of the problem was fixed by IC31758. This is an additional fix to the main fix from defect 30954 for IC31758. TEMPORARY FIX: COMMENTS: MODULES/MACROS: DSMC DSM DSMSVC SRLS: NONE RTN CODES: APPLICABLE COMPONENT LEVEL/SU: R42W PSY UP CIRCUMVENTION: MESSAGE TO SUBMITTER: CUST NAME= ALLEGHENY ENERGY SERVICECORP CUST NO= 0138405 STREET=PROB NO= 48559,111 CITY=LICENSE= ZIP= CUST REP= Mark Basenback PHONE= 724 830 5389 BO NAME= NCMD PITTSBURGH CENTRAL AREA =AR# 04 IBM BLDG. 4 ALLEGHENY CENTERB.O. NO=B SP7 PITTSBURGH, PA. COUNTRY=C 000 X15212AST CT= IP CT=2 WONG, CHRISTOPHER K. / 56041 Y B 999 AR# 99 C 000 PANG, KATHY/ 86156 Y B 344 AR# 02 C 000 TRACKING: CREATED CR02/01/17 CRSJ0291 INCIDENT TRANSFER 1743 RECEIPT RT02/01/18 RTSJ0291 1048 RECEIVED RC02/01/18 RCSJ0291 1048 ASSIGN AS02/01/18 ASSJ0291 99 UQ21048 ASSIGN AS02/01/18 ASSJ0291 MINSK 1050 EDIT SB02/01/18 SB109714 INTERESTED PARTY PAGE 2 1523 ASSIGN AS02/01/21 ASSJ0291 MINSK/BELYAVSKY 0253 EDIT SB02/01/23 SB974547 INTERESTED PARTY PAGE 2 1426 CLOSED CL02/01/24 CLSJ0291 PER 0543 -Original Message- From: Joel Fuhrman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 1:12 AM To: [EMAIL P
Re: IP change on AIX
If u need to change IP .First shutdown -m in maintenance mode so that all services are shut down. U ARE in SINGLE USER MODE .Now go to smitty and communication services and select minimum config and change Ip ADDRESS.Be careful ur default gateway should be on same network address. Then say init 2 to go multi-user mode Thanks Balanand -Original Message- From: Mark Hayden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 8:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: IP change on AIX Hello everyone, This is not directly related to TSM, but we are in the process of changing all of our IP addresses. On our TSM server, we are running AIX 4.3.2. Most of our file servers are Novell, so it's much easier to change IP. Is there a simple one time program to run , that will make the changes for me Thanks! Thanks, Mark Hayden Network Administrator E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IP change on AIX
Mark, one way to change the AIXs IP is: 1) stop all applications (eg TSM) 2) run sh /etc/tcp.clean and sh /etc/nfs.clean ( from the console cause this stopps AIX networking ) 3) remove Network devices ( eg. rmdev -l en0 -d and rmdev -l ent0 -d ) 4) run cfgmgr to recreate the devices ( the are now *very* clean ) 5) run smitty tcpip-> minimum configuration and startup ( fill in all required information ) - starts the network 6) check /etc/hosts for possible inconsistences ( e.g. doubled hostname ) 7) retsart you applications be carfull to also update your client dsm.sys if you are not using DNS resolution - otherwise keep your DNS info in a consitent state. herfried Mark Hayden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@VM.MARIST.EDU> on 25.02.2002 15:51:07 Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: IP change on AIX Hello everyone, This is not directly related to TSM, but we are in the process of changing all of our IP addresses. On our TSM server, we are running AIX 4.3.2. Most of our file servers are Novell, so it's much easier to change IP. Is there a simple one time program to run , that will make the changes for me Thanks! Thanks, Mark Hayden Network Administrator E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The information contained in this transmission, which may be confidential and proprietary, is only for the intended recipients. Unauthorized use is strictly prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please notify me immediately by telephone or electronic mail and confirm that you deleted this transmission and the reply from your electronic mail system.
IP change on AIX
Hello everyone, This is not directly related to TSM, but we are in the process of changing all of our IP addresses. On our TSM server, we are running AIX 4.3.2. Most of our file servers are Novell, so it's much easier to change IP. Is there a simple one time program to run , that will make the changes for me Thanks! Thanks, Mark Hayden Network Administrator E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
TSM Client
Hi, Does TSM Client 4.1.00 work with TSM Server 4.2.00 without any problems? Thanks. Nazir Najjar Itautec-Philco SA - Seguranga Internet [EMAIL PROTECTED] 55 11 6097-3959
Re: Restore Database with a 3494 library
It is a software bug that you have to be required to use libtype=manual... tivoli will be fixing this. -Original Message- From: Fred Johanson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 10:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fwd: Re: Restore Database with a 3494 library This has come up a number of times recently. To repeat what the Tivoli support person told me when I ran into in real life, I should keep another version of my devconfig file handy in which the 3494 definition is replaced by DEF LIBrary tsmlib libtaype=manual. When a DB restore is necessary in either V3R7 or V4R1, use the special devconfig file, mount the backup tape(s) manually with mtlib etc, and run the restore. After the restore, whcih seems to be completed when the system actually does the commit (I guess that tells it when it's done), switch back to the reguylar devconfig file and bring up the system. Quoting Farren Minns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi TSMers > > Running TSM 3.7.3.8 on Solaris 2.7 attached to two 3590 drives housed in a > 3494 automated library. > > This is not something I am having to do at the moment, but something that I > want to get clear in case the need arrises. Let's assume the database is > corrupt and I cannot sign on to the TSM server. I need to issue the dsmc > restore db from the command line. > > Baring in mind the device configuration below, what is the correct syntax I > should use? Also, what does the commit=yes/no option mean? The reason I > ask, is that I'm not sure If I need to manually change the state of the > drive to manual or something before issuing the command. > > This may be a bit vague, and if so please let me know any other information > you require. > > Thanks ever so much in advance. > > Kind Regards > > Farren Minns > Trainne Solaris System and TSM admin - John Wiley & Sons > > /* Device Configuration */ > DEFINE DEVCLASS 3590CLASS1 DEVTYPE=3590 FORMAT=DRIVE MOUNTLIMIT=DRIVES > MOUNTWAIT=60 MOUNTRETENTION=2 PREFIX=ADSM LIBRARY=3494A > SET SERVERNAME SERVER1 > DEFINE LIBRARY 3494A LIBTYPE=349X DEVICE=3494a PRIVATECATEGORY=300 > SCRATCHCATEGORY=301 > DEFINE DRIVE 3494A DRIVE1 DEVICE=/dev/rmt/3stc ONLINE=Yes > DEFINE DRIVE 3494A DRIVE2 DEVICE=/dev/rmt/5stc ONLINE=Yes > - End forwarded message - Fred Johanson
Re: Client Computability list
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