Re: devtype=FILE ?
Yes, the 5.1.1.0 client supports NetWare. -- Joshua S. Bassi IBM Certified - AIX 4/5L, SAN, Shark Tivoli Certified Consultant - ADSM/TSM eServer Systems Expert -pSeries HACMP AIX, HACMP, Storage, TSM Consultant Cell (831) 595-3962 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Mario Behring [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 11:45 AM To: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: devtype=FILE ? Hi Joshua, The backup db is already running Ok with the devtype=FILE. There are some considerations though, like the Administrator must have the same password in both machines and, at the NT machine, the TSM Server1 service must log on as Administrator and the administrator must have the permission "Log on as a Service". At the W2k machine this permission is granted automatically when you configure the TSM Server service to log on as local administrator. Let's see now how the restore will behave !! By the way, I intend to migrate this TSM Server to 5.1.X afterwards. Do you know if 5.1.X version supports Novell NetWare, I mean, is there 5.1.X agents for NetWare ?? Thank you. Mario Behring Tivoli Consultant Cell: 55 11 9540-8383 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Joshua Bassi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes doing this is definitely feasible. It's one way to backup the DB, > but I would recommend sending a copy offsite in case of a disaster. > > -- > Joshua S. Bassi > IBM Certified - AIX 4/5L, SAN, Shark > Tivoli Certified Consultant - ADSM/TSM > eServer Systems Expert -pSeries HACMP > > AIX, HACMP, Storage, TSM Consultant > Cell (831) 595-3962 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -Original Message- > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of > Mario Behring > Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 10:24 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: devtype=FILE ? > > Paul, > > Can I create a device with devtype=FILE and point it to a mapped drive > (from another server) ? > > This way I could execute the database full backub (from the old server > which does not have any space left) in this device and then restore it > on > the new server without having to fight the IBM library. > > Just a thought. > > Mario Behring > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More > http://faith.yahoo.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com
Re: devtype=FILE ?
Hi Joshua, The backup db is already running Ok with the devtype=FILE. There are some considerations though, like the Administrator must have the same password in both machines and, at the NT machine, the TSM Server1 service must log on as Administrator and the administrator must have the permission "Log on as a Service". At the W2k machine this permission is granted automatically when you configure the TSM Server service to log on as local administrator. Let's see now how the restore will behave !! By the way, I intend to migrate this TSM Server to 5.1.X afterwards. Do you know if 5.1.X version supports Novell NetWare, I mean, is there 5.1.X agents for NetWare ?? Thank you. Mario Behring Tivoli Consultant Cell: 55 11 9540-8383 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Joshua Bassi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes doing this is definitely feasible. It's one way to backup the DB, > but I would recommend sending a copy offsite in case of a disaster. > > -- > Joshua S. Bassi > IBM Certified - AIX 4/5L, SAN, Shark > Tivoli Certified Consultant - ADSM/TSM > eServer Systems Expert -pSeries HACMP > > AIX, HACMP, Storage, TSM Consultant > Cell (831) 595-3962 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -Original Message- > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of > Mario Behring > Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 10:24 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: devtype=FILE ? > > Paul, > > Can I create a device with devtype=FILE and point it to a mapped drive > (from another server) ? > > This way I could execute the database full backub (from the old server > which does not have any space left) in this device and then restore it > on > the new server without having to fight the IBM library. > > Just a thought. > > Mario Behring > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More > http://faith.yahoo.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com
Re: Off site copy with one drive???
May I try to express an opinion here. Why should we scare the newcomers in TSM world - TSM is not a tool for companies able to spend tens and hundreds thousand dollars. This is high-class product which can provide the best not only for Fortune 500 companies but even for Small and Meduim Enterprises. Of course standard limitations apply - more you invest in your IT infrastructure, more it will pay back. If ADSM/(I)TSM was targeted only to installations able to buy a many-drives libraries why developers spent additional time to have LIBTYPE=MANUAL, mount requests and replies, reclamation stgpools, etc. During the decades IBM showed many times that is targeting mainly high-end markets but cannot behave like mass market does not exist. Example of how they learned this was creation of IBM PC. Another example is the famous old joke about how IT companies will make toasters - IBM will create a toaster producing 20 toasts/day and will plan market for 5-6 such toasters in year :-) IMO this is not true anymore - IBM had to change and definitely have changed. In fact I do agree in some parts with both Etienne and Mark: - TSM can work with standalone drives and autoloaders. I have made some posts on the list about such configurations. If IBM/Tivoli would count my vote it is to improve offsite reclamation with some sort of reclamation stgpool. But even without it currently ITSM is still worth the money and SMEs can buy ITSM Base Edition (no SAN/Library sharing, no DRM, no big libraries) and benefit over full/incrmental/differential backup tools. For example in mass market ITSM is much better than BackupExec and has comparable price. A centure ago the cars were luxury, now they are not. - I completely agree single drive is having less functionality than multi-drive library. However there are a lot of companies needing only the base functionaly and excess one is of no significant benefit to them. Many many others will do themselves a BIG favour if buy more drives (this year we convinced only two such companies, next year maybe more :-) A penny invested even with 1000% profit will return less than the return of a hundred with just 20-30% profit. Each company/organization is specific. Ones prefer more automation and less human interaction while others admit lower investment with little bit more human work. It is just matter of policy and a really good product (I think TSM *is* such a product) can successfully target both types. Some of my posts on this list also were very emotional and sometimes even offensive. I hope they were forgiven. Zlatko Krastev IT Consultant Mark Stapleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 02.10.2002 16:26 Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Off site copy with one drive??? ... I guess it all comes down to what's more important--the cost of a proper library vs. the ability to dependably make multiple backups of your valuable data. > I completely agree with you that a three drive (or at least two drives) > library is far more practical with TSM but it is very expensive. In > addition, what is the use of buying a 2 or 3 Tbytes library when you need > only 200 or 300 Gbytes. You buy a smaller, scaled-down library. I stated earlier that single-drive libraries were pretty much worthless. I should have said that they "were pretty much worthless when used with TSM". ...
Re: devtype=FILE ?
Yes doing this is definitely feasible. It's one way to backup the DB, but I would recommend sending a copy offsite in case of a disaster. -- Joshua S. Bassi IBM Certified - AIX 4/5L, SAN, Shark Tivoli Certified Consultant - ADSM/TSM eServer Systems Expert -pSeries HACMP AIX, HACMP, Storage, TSM Consultant Cell (831) 595-3962 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mario Behring Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 10:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: devtype=FILE ? Paul, Can I create a device with devtype=FILE and point it to a mapped drive (from another server) ? This way I could execute the database full backub (from the old server which does not have any space left) in this device and then restore it on the new server without having to fight the IBM library. Just a thought. Mario Behring __ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com
devtype=FILE ?
Paul, Can I create a device with devtype=FILE and point it to a mapped drive (from another server) ? This way I could execute the database full backub (from the old server which does not have any space left) in this device and then restore it on the new server without having to fight the IBM library. Just a thought. Mario Behring __ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com
Re: TSM Client V4.2.xxx Costs per license
Paul, since 27-th August new processor-based licensing is back in business. EVBP licensing scheme introduced on 9-th April was temporarily frozen on 28-th May but in August was re-enabled. With introduction of ITSM eXtended Edition (5698-ISX) HSM client is again separated as it was (former Tivoli Space manager is now ITSM for HSM). DRM, Managed Libraries and Library Sharing are still in eXtended Edition as were in Enterprise Edition. The new fact is now MgSysSAN are separated in new product (ITSM for SAN). On the end VBP (point-based) licensing will be available through 3-td February 2003 but IBM is trying to convince customers to switch to the new scheme earlier. In fact for many configurations new processor licenses are cheaper than points (but for sure there are many others where the opposite is true). Zlatko Krastev IT Consultant "Seay, Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 05.10.2002 04:18 Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: TSM Client V4.2.xxx Costs per license If it is the desktop type license it is $124 US. A "server" license is $217 US for up to 4 CPUs on Intel and everything else is $465 US unless it is the HP SuperDome or over 23 CPUs. Paul D. Seay, Jr. Technical Specialist Naptheon Inc. 757-688-8180 -Original Message- From: Peppers, Holly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 12:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: TSM Client V4.2.xxx Costs per license Hi All!! Can anyone out there please tell me how much it is for TSM Client Code V4.2.xxx?? If anyone knows this off the top of their head, please let me know. Thanks. Holly L. Peppers BCBSFL 58481 Technical Services Blue Cross Blue Shield of Florida, Inc., and its subsidiary and affiliate companies are not responsible for errors or omissions in this e-mail message. Any personal comments made in this e-mail do not reflect the views of Blue Cross Blue Shield of Florida, Inc.
Re: restore database operation fail
Raghu, Below is the devcnfg.out file I am using. I tried the MANUAL option but the error persists. Any ideas ?? /* Device Configuration */ DEFINE DEVCLASS 359CLASS1 DEVTYPE=3590 FORMAT=3590E-C MOUNTLIMIT=DRIVES MOUNTWAIT=60 MOUNTRETENTION=5 PREFIX=ADSM LIBRARY=LB1.1.0.2 SET SERVERNAME MBRA109_Server DEFINE LIBRARY LB1.1.0.2 LIBTYPE=MANUAL DEVICE=LB1.1.0.2 SHARED=YES DEFINE DRIVE LB1.1.0.2 MT1.0.0.2 DEVICE=MT1.0.0.2 ONLINE=Yes Thanks. Mario Behring --- Raghu S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Mario > > I too faced similar problem.Try this and let me know it worked or not. > > copy the devcnfg file to devcnfg.orig > > change the library definition from scsi to manual in devcnfg file ( def > library libtype=manual > > define a single drive ( if your library has multiple drives) to the > library > > Load the database volume into the defined drive > Perform the restore db with the command you mentioned > > After sccessfull restoration copy devcnfg.orig to devcnfg > > Hope this works > > Regards > > Raghu S Nivas > Consultant - TSM > DCM Data Systems Ltd > New Delhi > India. > > e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Mario Behring > YAHOO.COM>cc: > Sent by: Subject: Re: restore > database operation > "ADSM: Dist fail > Stor Manager" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > IST.EDU> > > > 10/04/2002 > 12:46 PM > Please respond > to "ADSM: Dist > Stor Manager" > > > > > > Avi, > > Thank you. The file dsmsrv.opt was not at the ...\server directory. I > out > it there and now I have another error: > > > D:\TSM421\server>dsmserv restore db volume=T00039 devclass=359CLASS8 > commit=YES > ANR0900I Processing options file d:\tsm421\server1\dsmserv.opt. > ANR7800I DSMSERV generated at 12:09:11 on Aug 29 2001. > > Tivoli Storage Manager for Windows NT > Version 4, Release 2, Level 1.0 > > Licensed Materials - Property of IBM > > 5698-TSM (C) Copyright IBM Corporation 1999,2001. All rights reserved. > U.S. Government Users Restricted Rights - Use, duplication or disclosure > restricted by GSA ADP Schedule Contract with IBM Corporation. > > ANR8200I TCP/IP driver ready for connection with clients on port 1500. > ANR0200I Recovery log assigned capacity is 500 megabytes. > ANR0201I Database assigned capacity is 2048 megabytes. > ANR8300E I/O error on library LB1.1.0.2 (OP=8401C050, CC=203, KEY=02, > ASC=04, > ASCQ=03, > SENSE=70.00.02.00.00.00.00.58.00.00.00.00.04.03.FF.03.C4.77.01.01.0A.- > 06.01.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.B8.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00. > > > 00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.32. > > > 32.45.20.20.20.20.00., > Description=Manual intervention required). Refer to > Appendix D in the 'Messages' manual for recommended action. > ANRD admdbbk.c(4294): ThreadId<0> Error 272 creating device class > 359CLASS8. > > > Please notice that the library is in manual mode and the "TSM Server1" > service is stopped when I enter the restore db command. > > Also, this time I used the wizards to configure the Device Driver and > there was an error message before the end of the wizard. There was no > devcnfg.out file created so I used a copy from it from the old TSM > server. > > Thanks. > > Mario > > --- Avi Langberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > .. Have a look at your Registry under OPTION, There is a pointer to > > the > > dsmsrv.opt file under your TSM server name, If TSM server doesn't find > > the dsmsrv.opt he will used a default without yours devcnfg.out file. > > > > Regards, > > Avi Langberg > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! > http://sbc.yahoo.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com
Re: upgrade from 4.1.4 to 5.x
Thank you for the info., Johnn.. --- "Johnn D. Tan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We just went from TSM Server 4.1.3 to 5.1.1.6 > You do not need to stop at 4.2 along the way. > > Here's the conceptual overview of what we did -- > obviously, tailor it > for your environment: > > 1) stop TSM from doing anything (disable sessions, > nomigrrecl, disablesched) > 2) delete SYSTEM OBJECT (helps speed up cleanup > backupgroups later on) > 3) full db backup > 4) stop TSM Server > 5) copy dsmserv.opt, dsmserv.dsk, volhist, devconfig > to a safe place > 6) install new version from CD > 7) patch to 5.1.1.6 (Tivoli website) > 8) reboot > 9) start TSM (again w/ disable sessions, nomigrrecl, > disablesched) > 10) cleanup backupgroups > 13) restart TSM (sessions enabled, uncomment > nomigrrecl/disablesched) > > * "nomigrrecl" & "disablesched yes" should be put in > the dsmserv.opt > > johnn > p.s. We actually did one further step and deleted > library and drive > devices in both TSM as well as on AIX level. When > redefining on TSM > level, there is a new "define path" command that has > to be done after > each "define library" and "define drive" (which both > change slightly > in syntax too). > > > >Hi > >I have TSM 4.1.4 running on AIX 4.3.3. I like to > >upgrade TSM from my current level to 5.x. Do I > need > >to upgrade it to 4.2 before I can go to 5.x? > >Can anyone who has done the upgrade give me some > >advices please? > > > >Thank you in advance. > > > >__ > >Do you Yahoo!? > >New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! > >http://sbc.yahoo.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com
AIX/Shark raw volume problem
I decided to try using raw disk for database volumes, so I allocated some 10GB LUNs off our Shark. The problem is when I define them in TSM, they come up as 128MB volumes (used both the rvpath and rhdisk devices). Is there something I need to do in AIX to get them working? (I also tested them by putting them in a volume group and they came up as 10GB OK) Suad --
