Re: 5.1.1.6 Upgrade (cleanup backupgroups)
Not 4.2.1.12, 4.2.2.12 is stable. There is one little piece that CLEANUP BACKUPGROUPS has a problem with. They have a fix for that coming out soon. You may not hit that problem, so put in 4.2.2.12 and run the CLEANUP BACKUPGROUPS. I had to put on a special 4.2.2.13 version (not available on the FTP site). Then run it to get by the bad condition. Once that was cleaned up 4.2.2.12 cleanup backupgroups would run to FINISH also. 4.2.3.0 is imminently going to be released. However, you know they have patches that will be missing because of timing. Paul D. Seay, Jr. Technical Specialist Naptheon Inc. 757-688-8180 -Original Message- From: Lisa Cabanas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 3:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 5.1.1.6 Upgrade (cleanup backupgroups) So, Paul, would you recommend 4.2.1.12 as stable? I am at 4.2.1.9 (on AIX) and am unable to test 5.1 at this point. 4.2.1.9 to 4.2.2.12 wouldn't seem to be that nasty of a jump. thanks lisa Seay, Paul seay_pd@NAPTH To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EON.COM cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: 5.1.1.6 Upgrade (cleanup backupgroups) ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] IST.EDU 10/02/2002 07:29 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager OK, I ran cleanup backupgroups for a week and it returned 1.5M pages to my database. However, that was not continuous time. I would run it for several hours and cancel it as needed to prevent conflicts with other stuff. My experience was it literally shuts down backup stg and database backups. I have not had to halt the server to get it out of the system. If you had to halt the server, you probably have an additional problem. Note that cleanup backupgroups is also in the release that I am running 4.2.2.12. You do not have to go to 5.1.1.6 to get this fix. The system object problem occurs in 4.2 as well. The time to run the cleanup backupgroups has not specific run time. It will run as long as it needs to seconds, minutes, hours, days, weeks, years, decades, centuries. Whatever it takes. Boy is this a nasty issue. Paul D. Seay, Jr. Technical Specialist Naptheon Inc. 757-688-8180 -Original Message- From: Maria Ragan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 10:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 5.1.1.6 Upgrade Last week we moved the TSM server from an IBM H70 running AIX 4.3.3 and TSM 4.2.2.4 to an IBM 6H1 running AIX 5.1.0.2 then upgraded to TSM 5.1.1.6. My database is about 51 gigs in size. Tivoli support told me to run cleanup backupgroup to cleanup orphaned records when I ran into problems with expiration. I was told other activities (such as backing up the database and client backups) could take place while the command ran. After the cleanup backupgroup command was running for 5 hours and a backupdb had been running for 2 hours getting a 4th of the way finished when it normally, takes 30 minutes, I halted the server to kill the cleanup command. Support tells me the cleanup command could take 2 days. They also tell me the next release (2 weeks) should include the ability to background the command and restart where you left off. Does anyone have any experience running cleanup backupgroup to validate the 2 day run time? Thank you, Maria Maria Ragan Systems Engineer Unix Systems Group Yamanouchi Consumer, Inc.
Re: 3583 FC Problem
We have a similar setup, but out San Data gateway is a separate unit. If I encounter these kind of errors I always reset the SDG. Fixes the problem mostly. Jeroen -Original Message- From: Joshua Bassi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 10:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 3583 FC Problem Thanks, but the device names haven't changed from what I have seen through device manager. -- Joshua S. Bassi IBM Certified - AIX 4/5L, SAN, Shark Tivoli Certified Consultant - ADSM/TSM eServer Systems Expert -pSeries HACMP AIX, HACMP, Storage, TSM Consultant Cell (831) 595-3962 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bill Boyer Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 1:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 3583 FC Problem Make sure that the MTx.x.x.x and LBx.x.x.x device names are the same. We've seen with the SAN stuff and Winderz that these device names change. Just had to fix a client with this problem. Bill Boyer DSS, Inc. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Joshua Bassi Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 3:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 3583 FC Problem All, I have a new install of TSM 5.1 on a Windows platform. After the initial installation by one of my colleagues, backups were working fine. After a week though, communication to the tape library/drives failed. Now we are not even able to checkin or checkout tapes from the library. All operations to the library fail now. The one thing that I am not that familiar with is the built-in SAN Data Gateway. I am using the IBM Ultrium device driver for the drives but the 3583 library is controlled by the TSM device driver. In device manager there are yellow exclamations over both the library (which is normal) and the IBM Gateway Module SCSI Array Device. I downloaded and installed the SAN Data Gateway driver but that didn't seem to help. xSeries 342 W2K SP2 server TSM 5.1.1.0 server device driver 3583 w/ 2 LVD drives attached via a built-in SAN Data Gateway Ultrium device driver 5.0.1.11 FAStT700 FC attached disk pool IBM 2109-F16 FC Switch Here are my library/drive definitions: QUERY LIBRARY F=D Library Name LibraryACS Private Scratch External RSM Media Shared LanFree ObeyMountRetention Primary Library Manager WWN Serial Number Type Id Category Category ManagerType (administrator) -- --- -- -- -- --- -- -- LB1.1.0.4SCSI No QUERY DEVCLASS F=D DeviceDevice Storage DeviceFormat Est/Max Mount Mount Mount Label Prefix Drive Library DirectoryServer Name Retry Retry Twosided Shared Class AccessPool Type Capacity Limit Wait Retention Letter Period Interval (administrator) Name Strategy Count (MB)(min) (min) ime - -- --- - -- -- - - -- -- LTOCLASS Sequential 2 LTO ULTRI- 204,800. 260 2 ADSM LB1.1.0.4 QUERY DRIVE F=D Library Name Drive Name Device Type On-Line Element Drive State Allocated to WWN Serial Number Last Update by Last Update Cleaning Frequency --- --- --- -- -- --- LB1.1.0.4MT1.2.0.4LTO Unavailable Since 256 LOADED LB1.1.0.4MT1.8.0.4LTO Yes 257 EMPTY QUERY PATH F=D Source Name Source Type Destination Destination Library Node Name Device ExternalLUN Initiator Directory On-Line NameType Manager (administrator) --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- -- TSM-SERVER SERVER LB1.1.0.4 LIBRARY lb1.1.0.4 0 Yes TSM-SERVER SERVER MT1.2.0.4 DRIVE LB1.1.0.4 mt1.2.0.4 0 Yes TSM-SERVER SERVER MT1.8.0.4 DRIVE LB1.1.0.4 mt1.8.0.4 0 Yes ACTIVITY LOG 10/07/2002 11:53:32 ANR8304E Time out error on drive MT1.2.0.4 (mt1.2.0.4) in
space reclamation when using server-to-server communication
Hello TSMers, I've got a problem with my space reclamation for virtual volumes. We use two TSM Servers Version 4.2.2.0 (OS Sun Solaris 2.7). They do server-to-server communication. When space reclamation starts for the first reclaimable virtual volume in a storage pool, everything looks fine. Then the second reclaimable virtual volume starts their reclamation process and I allways get an ANRD error. Here is what TSM reports: ANR8340I SERVER volume TBS.BFS.032957914 mounted. ANR8340I SERVER volume TBS.BFS.033992020 mounted. ANR1340I Scratch volume TBS.BFS.033992020 is now defined in storage pool REMOTE_UNIX. ANR0986I Process 360 for SPACE RECLAMATION running in the background processed 34 items for a total of 1.997.933 bytes with a completion state of SUCCESS at 14:05:16. ANR1041I Space reclamation ended for volume TBS.BFS.032957914. ANR0984I Process 361 for SPACE RECLAMATION started in the background at 14:05:16. ANR1040I Space reclamation started for volume TBS.BFS.033704013 storage pool REMOTE_UNIX (process number 361). ANR1044I Removable volume TBS.BFS.033704013 is required for space reclamation. ANR8340I SERVER volume TBS.BFS.033704013 mounted. ANR1341I Scratch volume TBS.BFS.032957914 has been deleted from storage pool REMOTE_UNIX. ANR8213E Session 93 aborted due to send error; error 32. ANRD pvrserv.c(918): ThreadId 43 ServWrite: Error writing SERVER volume TBS.BFS.033992020 rc=30. ANR1411W Access mode for volume TBS.BFS.033992020 now set to read-only due to write error. When I move data from TBS.BFS.033992020, no problems occured. Can anybody explain, what happened at the server? MfG/regards Sascha Bräuning Sparkassen Informatik, Fellbach OrgEinheit: 6322 Wilhelm-Pfitzer Str. 1 70736 Fellbach Telefon: (0711) 5722-2144 Telefax: (0711) 5722-1634 Mailadr.: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: space reclamation when using server-to-server communication
Sascha Maybe this helps: APAR= IX78238 ANRD PVRSERV.C(833): SERVWRITE: ERROR WRITING SERVER VOLUME X. RC=30 WHEN COMMTIMEOUT VALUE TIME REQUIRED TO MOUNT TAPE. APAR= IC22660 ANRD PVRSERV.C(833): SERVWRITE: ERROR WRITING SERVER VOLUME X. RC=30 WHEN COMMTIMEOUT VALUE TIME REQUIRED TO MOUNT TAPE. LOCAL FIX: Increase the commtimeout value on the source server. Jeroen -Original Message- From: Sascha Braeuning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 9:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: space reclamation when using server-to-server communication Hello TSMers, I've got a problem with my space reclamation for virtual volumes. We use two TSM Servers Version 4.2.2.0 (OS Sun Solaris 2.7). They do server-to-server communication. When space reclamation starts for the first reclaimable virtual volume in a storage pool, everything looks fine. Then the second reclaimable virtual volume starts their reclamation process and I allways get an ANRD error. Here is what TSM reports: ANR8340I SERVER volume TBS.BFS.032957914 mounted. ANR8340I SERVER volume TBS.BFS.033992020 mounted. ANR1340I Scratch volume TBS.BFS.033992020 is now defined in storage pool REMOTE_UNIX. ANR0986I Process 360 for SPACE RECLAMATION running in the background processed 34 items for a total of 1.997.933 bytes with a completion state of SUCCESS at 14:05:16. ANR1041I Space reclamation ended for volume TBS.BFS.032957914. ANR0984I Process 361 for SPACE RECLAMATION started in the background at 14:05:16. ANR1040I Space reclamation started for volume TBS.BFS.033704013 storage pool REMOTE_UNIX (process number 361). ANR1044I Removable volume TBS.BFS.033704013 is required for space reclamation. ANR8340I SERVER volume TBS.BFS.033704013 mounted. ANR1341I Scratch volume TBS.BFS.032957914 has been deleted from storage pool REMOTE_UNIX. ANR8213E Session 93 aborted due to send error; error 32. ANRD pvrserv.c(918): ThreadId 43 ServWrite: Error writing SERVER volume TBS.BFS.033992020 rc=30. ANR1411W Access mode for volume TBS.BFS.033992020 now set to read-only due to write error. When I move data from TBS.BFS.033992020, no problems occured. Can anybody explain, what happened at the server? MfG/regards Sascha Bräuning Sparkassen Informatik, Fellbach OrgEinheit: 6322 Wilhelm-Pfitzer Str. 1 70736 Fellbach Telefon: (0711) 5722-2144 Telefax: (0711) 5722-1634 Mailadr.: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Howdy People, I've been thinking about the time it take s to unload and load a TSM DB. Depending on the size of the TSM DB it may require TSM to be offline for more than a day. I welcome some thoughts about the following steps:- 1) loaddb the production TSM DB. 2) Bring TSM back up to continue operation. 3) loadformat and load the TSM DB onto a big test system. 4) Backup db on the production TSM DB. 5) Shutdown the production TSM DB. 6) Copy the new optimized db files across to the production TSM server. 7) DSMSERV RESTORE DB for step 4. Would the restore be possible in the first place. Would the restore db have a fragmentation effect on the optimized db? On a general note, I was under the impression that the unload did the optimization, but from some load times I've seen, it may be done on the load operation. Which is it? Alternately we could do an cut-down export and import of the nodes. Share and Enjoy Wayne Gorton TSM Certified Nerd Innovative Business Knowledge (IBK) P/L PH:+61 2 9614 1604 FAX: +61 3 9820 2840 MOB: +61 417 427 441 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.386 / Virus Database: 218 - Release Date: 09-Sep-02
TSM 5.1 Installation Questions
During the TSM server 5.1 on windows NT 4.0 SP5 installtion ,just prior to initialization i am getting an pop window saying Error - FM : incorrect parameter.Its not stopping from initialization.I would like to know whats this error and does it cause any problem in future.Need help.Regards Raghu S Nivas Consultant - TSM DCM Data Systems Ltd New Delhi India. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Backup Storagepool using Virtual-volumes
Hi there, We've been experimenting with virtual volumes, being used for backup storagepools. The thing we notice is that on the destination server there's no expiration or deletion of the created volumes after we delete the copy storagepool volumes on the source server. The volumes in the destination server stay filled and defined. I cannot delete the source-server's filespaces on the destination server because it's nodetype is server, but i was able to delete the node itself, even when references to it exist. I'm having trouble finding some decent documentation on virtual-volumes when using them for backup storagepools. Can anyone of you guys or girls enlighten me? Met vriendelijke groet, Ilja G. Coolen ABP / USZO CIS / BS / TB / Storage Management Telefoon: +31(0)45 579 7938 Fax: +31(0)45 579 3990 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Centrale Mailbox: Centrale Mailbox - BS Storage (eumbx05) - Everybody has a photographic memory, some just don't have film. -
Re: 3583 FC Problem
Hi Joshua If you are using SAN drives. I recomend you to read this readpaper Of SAN attached tape, For use with Tivoli Storage Manager. It is not the same, configuring SAN Tape drives as you do with SCSI drives. In either case try doing this. Start your ITSM Management console. And start the Device Configiruation you should see there if you are pointing to ther right device or not. hope this helps Kvedja/Regards Petur Eythorsson Taeknimadur/Technician IBM Certified Specialist - AIX Tivoli Storage Manager Certified Professional Microsoft Certified System Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nyherji Hf Simi TEL: +354-569-7700 Borgartun 37105 Iceland URL:http://www.nyherji.is -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hooft, Jeroen Sent: 8. október 2002 07:28 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 3583 FC Problem We have a similar setup, but out San Data gateway is a separate unit. If I encounter these kind of errors I always reset the SDG. Fixes the problem mostly. Jeroen -Original Message- From: Joshua Bassi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 10:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 3583 FC Problem Thanks, but the device names haven't changed from what I have seen through device manager. -- Joshua S. Bassi IBM Certified - AIX 4/5L, SAN, Shark Tivoli Certified Consultant - ADSM/TSM eServer Systems Expert -pSeries HACMP AIX, HACMP, Storage, TSM Consultant Cell (831) 595-3962 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bill Boyer Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 1:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 3583 FC Problem Make sure that the MTx.x.x.x and LBx.x.x.x device names are the same. We've seen with the SAN stuff and Winderz that these device names change. Just had to fix a client with this problem. Bill Boyer DSS, Inc. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Joshua Bassi Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 3:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 3583 FC Problem All, I have a new install of TSM 5.1 on a Windows platform. After the initial installation by one of my colleagues, backups were working fine. After a week though, communication to the tape library/drives failed. Now we are not even able to checkin or checkout tapes from the library. All operations to the library fail now. The one thing that I am not that familiar with is the built-in SAN Data Gateway. I am using the IBM Ultrium device driver for the drives but the 3583 library is controlled by the TSM device driver. In device manager there are yellow exclamations over both the library (which is normal) and the IBM Gateway Module SCSI Array Device. I downloaded and installed the SAN Data Gateway driver but that didn't seem to help. xSeries 342 W2K SP2 server TSM 5.1.1.0 server device driver 3583 w/ 2 LVD drives attached via a built-in SAN Data Gateway Ultrium device driver 5.0.1.11 FAStT700 FC attached disk pool IBM 2109-F16 FC Switch Here are my library/drive definitions: QUERY LIBRARY F=D Library Name LibraryACS Private Scratch External RSM Media Shared LanFree ObeyMountRetention Primary Library Manager WWN Serial Number Type Id Category Category ManagerType (administrator) -- --- -- -- -- --- -- -- LB1.1.0.4SCSI No QUERY DEVCLASS F=D DeviceDevice Storage DeviceFormat Est/Max Mount Mount Mount Label Prefix Drive Library DirectoryServer Name Retry Retry Twosided Shared Class AccessPool Type Capacity Limit Wait Retention Letter Period Interval (administrator) Name Strategy Count (MB)(min) (min) ime - -- --- - -- -- - - -- -- LTOCLASS Sequential 2 LTO ULTRI- 204,800. 260 2 ADSM LB1.1.0.4 QUERY DRIVE F=D Library Name Drive Name Device Type On-Line Element Drive State Allocated to WWN Serial Number Last Update by Last Update Cleaning Frequency --- --- --- -- -- --- LB1.1.0.4MT1.2.0.4LTO Unavailable Since 256 LOADED LB1.1.0.4MT1.8.0.4LTO Yes 257 EMPTY QUERY PATH F=D Source
Re: 3583 FC Problem
Peter, where can you downoad the paper 'Of SAN attached tape'? Thanks, Kurt - Original Message - From: Pitur Ey~srsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 12:36 PM Subject: Re: 3583 FC Problem Hi Joshua If you are using SAN drives. I recomend you to read this readpaper Of SAN attached tape, For use with Tivoli Storage Manager. It is not the same, configuring SAN Tape drives as you do with SCSI drives. In either case try doing this. Start your ITSM Management console. And start the Device Configiruation you should see there if you are pointing to ther right device or not. hope this helps Kvedja/Regards Petur Eythorsson Taeknimadur/Technician IBM Certified Specialist - AIX Tivoli Storage Manager Certified Professional Microsoft Certified System Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nyherji Hf Simi TEL: +354-569-7700 Borgartun 37105 Iceland URL:http://www.nyherji.is -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hooft, Jeroen Sent: 8. oktsber 2002 07:28 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 3583 FC Problem We have a similar setup, but out San Data gateway is a separate unit. If I encounter these kind of errors I always reset the SDG. Fixes the problem mostly. Jeroen -Original Message- From: Joshua Bassi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 10:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 3583 FC Problem Thanks, but the device names haven't changed from what I have seen through device manager. -- Joshua S. Bassi IBM Certified - AIX 4/5L, SAN, Shark Tivoli Certified Consultant - ADSM/TSM eServer Systems Expert -pSeries HACMP AIX, HACMP, Storage, TSM Consultant Cell (831) 595-3962 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bill Boyer Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 1:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 3583 FC Problem Make sure that the MTx.x.x.x and LBx.x.x.x device names are the same. We've seen with the SAN stuff and Winderz that these device names change. Just had to fix a client with this problem. Bill Boyer DSS, Inc. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Joshua Bassi Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 3:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 3583 FC Problem All, I have a new install of TSM 5.1 on a Windows platform. After the initial installation by one of my colleagues, backups were working fine. After a week though, communication to the tape library/drives failed. Now we are not even able to checkin or checkout tapes from the library. All operations to the library fail now. The one thing that I am not that familiar with is the built-in SAN Data Gateway. I am using the IBM Ultrium device driver for the drives but the 3583 library is controlled by the TSM device driver. In device manager there are yellow exclamations over both the library (which is normal) and the IBM Gateway Module SCSI Array Device. I downloaded and installed the SAN Data Gateway driver but that didn't seem to help. xSeries 342 W2K SP2 server TSM 5.1.1.0 server device driver 3583 w/ 2 LVD drives attached via a built-in SAN Data Gateway Ultrium device driver 5.0.1.11 FAStT700 FC attached disk pool IBM 2109-F16 FC Switch Here are my library/drive definitions: QUERY LIBRARY F=D Library Name LibraryACS Private Scratch External RSM Media Shared LanFree ObeyMountRetention Primary Library Manager WWN Serial Number Type Id Category Category ManagerType (administrator) -- --- -- -- -- --- -- -- LB1.1.0.4SCSI No QUERY DEVCLASS F=D DeviceDevice Storage DeviceFormat Est/Max Mount Mount Mount Label Prefix Drive Library DirectoryServer Name Retry Retry Twosided Shared Class AccessPool Type Capacity Limit Wait Retention Letter Period Interval (administrator) Name Strategy Count (MB)(min) (min) ime - -- --- - -- -- - - -- -- LTOCLASS Sequential 2 LTO ULTRI- 204,800. 260 2 ADSM LB1.1.0.4 QUERY DRIVE F=D Library Name Drive Name Device Type On-Line Element Drive State Allocated to WWN Serial Number Last Update by Last Update Cleaning Frequency --- --- ---
Re: APAR taken on the Quotes not working in the ADMIN GUI
hey Paul in what version is this bug? Kvedja/Regards Petur Eythorsson Taeknimadur/Technician IBM Certified Specialist - AIX Tivoli Storage Manager Certified Professional Microsoft Certified System Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nyherji Hf Simi TEL: +354-569-7700 Borgartun 37105 Iceland URL:http://www.nyherji.is -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Seay, Paul Sent: 8. október 2002 02:06 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: APAR taken on the Quotes not working in the ADMIN GUI --TivWeb: Quotes Not Handled in Command Line Correctly --The following select will not work in the Web Admin GUI Command Line select node_name as Node Name from nodes I have tested this issue in the Web Admin Client Command Line and received the same error message that you are getting. ANR2905E Unexpected SQL identifier token - 'NAME'. | .V.. select node_name as Node Name from nodes This same syntax works as designed in the Admin Command Line but in the Web Admin client, TSM is effectively removing the double quotes in the argument after the AS keyword. This is a defect in the Web Admin client and an APAR (IC347070) has been with development to correct the issue. Paul D. Seay, Jr. Technical Specialist Naptheon Inc. 757-688-8180
Re: 3583 FC Problem
ohh sorry guys here you go http://www.ibm.com/redbooks Just type in the search box what book you are looking for. Kvedja/Regards Petur Eythorsson Taeknimadur/Technician IBM Certified Specialist - AIX Tivoli Storage Manager Certified Professional Microsoft Certified System Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nyherji Hf Simi TEL: +354-569-7700 Borgartun 37105 Iceland URL:http://www.nyherji.is -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kurt Beyers Sent: 8. október 2002 11:03 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 3583 FC Problem Peter, where can you downoad the paper 'Of SAN attached tape'? Thanks, Kurt - Original Message - From: Pitur Ey~srsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 12:36 PM Subject: Re: 3583 FC Problem Hi Joshua If you are using SAN drives. I recomend you to read this readpaper Of SAN attached tape, For use with Tivoli Storage Manager. It is not the same, configuring SAN Tape drives as you do with SCSI drives. In either case try doing this. Start your ITSM Management console. And start the Device Configiruation you should see there if you are pointing to ther right device or not. hope this helps Kvedja/Regards Petur Eythorsson Taeknimadur/Technician IBM Certified Specialist - AIX Tivoli Storage Manager Certified Professional Microsoft Certified System Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nyherji Hf Simi TEL: +354-569-7700 Borgartun 37105 Iceland URL:http://www.nyherji.is -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hooft, Jeroen Sent: 8. oktsber 2002 07:28 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 3583 FC Problem We have a similar setup, but out San Data gateway is a separate unit. If I encounter these kind of errors I always reset the SDG. Fixes the problem mostly. Jeroen -Original Message- From: Joshua Bassi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 10:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 3583 FC Problem Thanks, but the device names haven't changed from what I have seen through device manager. -- Joshua S. Bassi IBM Certified - AIX 4/5L, SAN, Shark Tivoli Certified Consultant - ADSM/TSM eServer Systems Expert -pSeries HACMP AIX, HACMP, Storage, TSM Consultant Cell (831) 595-3962 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bill Boyer Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 1:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 3583 FC Problem Make sure that the MTx.x.x.x and LBx.x.x.x device names are the same. We've seen with the SAN stuff and Winderz that these device names change. Just had to fix a client with this problem. Bill Boyer DSS, Inc. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Joshua Bassi Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 3:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 3583 FC Problem All, I have a new install of TSM 5.1 on a Windows platform. After the initial installation by one of my colleagues, backups were working fine. After a week though, communication to the tape library/drives failed. Now we are not even able to checkin or checkout tapes from the library. All operations to the library fail now. The one thing that I am not that familiar with is the built-in SAN Data Gateway. I am using the IBM Ultrium device driver for the drives but the 3583 library is controlled by the TSM device driver. In device manager there are yellow exclamations over both the library (which is normal) and the IBM Gateway Module SCSI Array Device. I downloaded and installed the SAN Data Gateway driver but that didn't seem to help. xSeries 342 W2K SP2 server TSM 5.1.1.0 server device driver 3583 w/ 2 LVD drives attached via a built-in SAN Data Gateway Ultrium device driver 5.0.1.11 FAStT700 FC attached disk pool IBM 2109-F16 FC Switch Here are my library/drive definitions: QUERY LIBRARY F=D Library Name LibraryACS Private Scratch External RSM Media Shared LanFree ObeyMountRetention Primary Library Manager WWN Serial Number Type Id Category Category ManagerType (administrator) -- --- -- -- -- --- -- -- LB1.1.0.4SCSI No QUERY DEVCLASS F=D DeviceDevice Storage DeviceFormat Est/Max Mount Mount Mount Label Prefix Drive Library DirectoryServer Name Retry Retry Twosided Shared Class AccessPool Type Capacity Limit Wait Retention Letter Period Interval (administrator) Name Strategy Count (MB)
Re: space reclamation when using server-to-server communication
Where do your virtual volumes go ??? (straight to tape or first to a buffer diskpool ???) If they go straight to tape there is the possibility that your second virtual volume to be reclaimed ends up being on the physical volume to which your first reclamation process opened its output volume. (thus the output voume gets closed on the remote server because the tape is rewound to find the second input/reclamation volume) What is the mount retention of your device class for your virtual volumes ??? Generally virtual volumes are only used for a unit of work (or until their estimated capacity is reached), since your reclamation processes are actually TWO different processes I would expect TSM to close that output virtual volume at the end of the first process and thus terminate its use. I would not expect the second process to pick that back up and try to use it... and this might be what is going on in that the virtual volume is closed upon completion of the first reclamation and then the second process tries to use it but it is closed... Try this, if your mount retention for your device class for your virtual volumes isn't zero, try setting it to zero. This way upon completion of the first reclamation every one / all routines involved will agree to close out that virtual volume, then when your second reclamation initiates it will call for a new scratch. NOW for the flip side of my twisted thinking... if your mount retention IS currently zero, try setting it up to 1 or 2, IF currently zero it ~might~ be triggering an early close of the volume even though the one environment knows it has additional work to go to it. BUT generally I'd expect the normal flow of things to be: upon completion of the first reclamation task, the output virtual volume to be closed (since that is a completed unit of work) and upon the initiation of the second reclamation task, a new output virtual volume to be opened... Dwight -Original Message- From: Sascha Braeuning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 2:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: space reclamation when using server-to-server communication Hello TSMers, I've got a problem with my space reclamation for virtual volumes. We use two TSM Servers Version 4.2.2.0 (OS Sun Solaris 2.7). They do server-to-server communication. When space reclamation starts for the first reclaimable virtual volume in a storage pool, everything looks fine. Then the second reclaimable virtual volume starts their reclamation process and I allways get an ANRD error. Here is what TSM reports: ANR8340I SERVER volume TBS.BFS.032957914 mounted. ANR8340I SERVER volume TBS.BFS.033992020 mounted. ANR1340I Scratch volume TBS.BFS.033992020 is now defined in storage pool REMOTE_UNIX. ANR0986I Process 360 for SPACE RECLAMATION running in the background processed 34 items for a total of 1.997.933 bytes with a completion state of SUCCESS at 14:05:16. ANR1041I Space reclamation ended for volume TBS.BFS.032957914. ANR0984I Process 361 for SPACE RECLAMATION started in the background at 14:05:16. ANR1040I Space reclamation started for volume TBS.BFS.033704013 storage pool REMOTE_UNIX (process number 361). ANR1044I Removable volume TBS.BFS.033704013 is required for space reclamation. ANR8340I SERVER volume TBS.BFS.033704013 mounted. ANR1341I Scratch volume TBS.BFS.032957914 has been deleted from storage pool REMOTE_UNIX. ANR8213E Session 93 aborted due to send error; error 32. ANRD pvrserv.c(918): ThreadId 43 ServWrite: Error writing SERVER volume TBS.BFS.033992020 rc=30. ANR1411W Access mode for volume TBS.BFS.033992020 now set to read-only due to write error. When I move data from TBS.BFS.033992020, no problems occured. Can anybody explain, what happened at the server? MfG/regards Sascha Brduning Sparkassen Informatik, Fellbach OrgEinheit: 6322 Wilhelm-Pfitzer Str. 1 70736 Fellbach Telefon: (0711) 5722-2144 Telefax: (0711) 5722-1634 Mailadr.: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is there a good reporting tool for TSM on z/OS?
Hello all, I know the question has been asked before but this is slightly different. I am running TSM 5.1.14 on z/OS 1.1. Does anyone have a recommendation for a TSM reporting tool that works well in the mainframe environment? I am getting tired of writing my own SAS reports from SMF records of Accounting Data. Matt
Re: 5.1.1.6 Upgrade (cleanup backupgroups)
We went from 4.2.2.2 to 4.2.2.13 (as instructed by level 2) to take advantage of an APAR fix for restoring backupsets. All seems well after we upgraded the drivers as well as the server software. We are still testing the APAR fix. 4.2.2.13 is available at ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/storage/tivoli-storage-management/patches/server/ NT/4.2.2.13/ , the AIX version is there also. Haven't tried CLEANUP BACKUPGROUPS and I make no claims to this version, only sharing my experiences. Mark B. -Original Message- From: Seay, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 2:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 5.1.1.6 Upgrade (cleanup backupgroups) Not 4.2.1.12, 4.2.2.12 is stable. There is one little piece that CLEANUP BACKUPGROUPS has a problem with. They have a fix for that coming out soon. You may not hit that problem, so put in 4.2.2.12 and run the CLEANUP BACKUPGROUPS. I had to put on a special 4.2.2.13 version (not available on the FTP site). Then run it to get by the bad condition. Once that was cleaned up 4.2.2.12 cleanup backupgroups would run to FINISH also. 4.2.3.0 is imminently going to be released. However, you know they have patches that will be missing because of timing. Paul D. Seay, Jr. Technical Specialist Naptheon Inc. 757-688-8180 -Original Message- From: Lisa Cabanas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 3:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 5.1.1.6 Upgrade (cleanup backupgroups) So, Paul, would you recommend 4.2.1.12 as stable? I am at 4.2.1.9 (on AIX) and am unable to test 5.1 at this point. 4.2.1.9 to 4.2.2.12 wouldn't seem to be that nasty of a jump. thanks lisa Seay, Paul seay_pd@NAPTH To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EON.COM cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: 5.1.1.6 Upgrade (cleanup backupgroups) ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] IST.EDU 10/02/2002 07:29 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager OK, I ran cleanup backupgroups for a week and it returned 1.5M pages to my database. However, that was not continuous time. I would run it for several hours and cancel it as needed to prevent conflicts with other stuff. My experience was it literally shuts down backup stg and database backups. I have not had to halt the server to get it out of the system. If you had to halt the server, you probably have an additional problem. Note that cleanup backupgroups is also in the release that I am running 4.2.2.12. You do not have to go to 5.1.1.6 to get this fix. The system object problem occurs in 4.2 as well. The time to run the cleanup backupgroups has not specific run time. It will run as long as it needs to seconds, minutes, hours, days, weeks, years, decades, centuries. Whatever it takes. Boy is this a nasty issue. Paul D. Seay, Jr. Technical Specialist Naptheon Inc. 757-688-8180 -Original Message- From: Maria Ragan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 10:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 5.1.1.6 Upgrade Last week we moved the TSM server from an IBM H70 running AIX 4.3.3 and TSM 4.2.2.4 to an IBM 6H1 running AIX 5.1.0.2 then upgraded to TSM 5.1.1.6. My database is about 51 gigs in size. Tivoli support told me to run cleanup backupgroup to cleanup orphaned records when I ran into problems with expiration. I was told other activities (such as backing up the database and client backups) could take place while the command ran. After the cleanup backupgroup command was running for 5 hours and a backupdb had been running for 2 hours getting a 4th of the way finished when it normally, takes 30 minutes, I halted the server to kill the cleanup command. Support tells me the cleanup command could take 2 days. They also tell me the next release (2 weeks) should include the ability to background the command and restart where you left off. Does anyone have any experience running cleanup backupgroup to validate the 2 day run time? Thank you, Maria Maria Ragan Systems Engineer Unix Systems Group Yamanouchi Consumer, Inc.
Re: Is there 3 good reporting tool for TSM on
Are there 3 reporting tools for TSM. And any comments on their features?
Re: TSM Database Disk Layout Recommendations
Are your storage pools JFS or Raw? Did you try both? When I first created this server (AIX 4.3.3 on an S7A), I used all raw, but did not see that the memory was being utilized. Then I changed the storage pools to JFS for the readahead functionality (using straight SSA disk for those). While I have alot of page steals, I think the JFS has helped the daily processes that read the storagpools (backup stgpool and migration). Andy Carlson|\ _,,,---,,_ Senior Technical Specialist ZZZzz /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_ BJC Health Care|,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' St. Louis, Missouri '---''(_/--' `-'\_) Cat Pics: http://andyc.dyndns.org/animal.html On Mon, 7 Oct 2002, Seay, Paul wrote: The reason why is because everyone is saying RAID-5 is bad versus a particular implementation or whatever. The Enterprise Storage Server (SHARK) is RAID-5 SSA under the covers. It flies because it has controllers on the front end that essentially eliminate the RAID-5 effect and can actually blow away RAID-1 solutions under high sequential write applications. The HDS 9900 series is the same. It is all a balance. RAID-5 works great for some things, bad for others. If your RAID-5 solution does any kind of parity calculation in the array it will perform well on sequential write. Why? Because the generally change from RAID-5 to RAID-3 which is the fastest on write. Now, considering this. What does high sequential write? Generally, Storage Pools and the LOG. What does high sequential read? Storage Pools and the DB during backup. So, to generally say RAID-5 is bad is totally incorrect. It depends on your hardware. The number of simultaneous write operations you can perform, the speed of your disk, etc. In the case of TSM it even depends on how your environment is setup. Would I use software RAID-5, heck no, the CPU overhead is astronomical and the read back penalty on something like Windows is will just kill you because it is a dumb RAID-5 implementation. I hope everyone will look at what they are saying and give specific complete configuration information in the future. We use the ESS. We do striping in the AIX file system, not RAID-5. Protection is performed in the ESS. We had some serious performance problems in relation to other ESS applications because we did not implement our striping correctly and our AIX system needed some serious tuning. If you are running default AIX vmtune parameters. You are probably experiencing bad performance, not because of the RAID-5 implementation, but because of the stress RAID-5 puts on the filesystem buffers in the non-comp space and causing astronomical paging on your system. You change to raw and magically the problem goes away. Why, becauase the file system usage drops dramatically and the paging stops. By changing to the recommendations folks kindly suggested over the past weeks. My database backup time went from about 3 hours down to 1 hour for an 85GB database. My storage pools have dramatically improved as well and I have not corrected their striping yet. How did I get the performance: maxperm set to 40 minperm set to 10 max page read ahead set to 256K bufferpool set to 256MB (memory on the machine is 2GB) sufficient free pages to support the max read ahead (there are rules about this number) Our machine is a P660-6H1, (4) 450MZ processors, 2GB memory, 2 Fibre Channel cards for the disk, 4 for the tape (1 Gbit) 640GB of ESS disk 14 Magstar Drives in use so far, eventually 32. 2 Gbit Ethernet Cards. Yes, my environment may be unique, but at least I am telling you why what I have works well so that a generalization is not made that has no point of reference. Thanks Mark, you probably saved us about 55K to prevent us from buying a much larger TSM server. We will probably change to (6) 750mz processors and 4GB of memory, add another Gbit card, and 2 more FC Cards to a new IO frame for the 6H1. Your methodical approach was exactly what we needed to understand the issues and what to do. Our machine purrs like a kitten now. Paul D. Seay, Jr. Technical Specialist Naptheon Inc. 757-688-8180
Re: Is there 3 good reporting tool for TSM on
Hi, we use an very nice software, to take the tour, just go to www.tsmmanager.com I am sure you will love it, www.servergraph.com is another solution to check, René LAMBELET NESTEC SA GLOBE - Global Business Excellence Central Support Center Information Technology Av. Nestlé 55 CH-1800 Vevey (Switzerland) tél +41 (0)21 924 35 43 fax +41 (0)21 703 30 17 local UBS-Nestec, Bussigny mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This message is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. -Original Message- From: Lawrence Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday,8. October 2002 14:58 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Is there 3 good reporting tool for TSM on Are there 3 reporting tools for TSM. And any comments on their features?
memory allocation error
Hi, I'm experiencing a memory allocation error on my tsm 5.1.1.0 system. I'm running aix 4.3.3 with 3GB memory and 6GB paging space. Running a restore of 16 mill. files on af 5.1 win. client, my dsmserv proc grows to a size of 2GB and a RES memory of 500MB when the client gets system error detected and the server +stops responding to tcpip. TSM comes with the error: anrd memory allocation error. Error allocating memory of 1609 bytes! aix is not reporting of any memory errors! my vmtune looks like vmtune: current values: -p -P-r -R -f -F -N-W minperm maxperm minpgahead maxpgahead minfree maxfree pd_npages maxrandwrt 157076 628304 2 8120 128 5242880 -M -w -k -c-b -B -u-l-d maxpin npswarn npskill numclust numfsbufs hd_pbuf_cnt lvm_bufcnt lrubucket defps 629126 46336 11584 1 93289 9 131072 1 -s -n -S -L -g -h sync_release_ilock nokilluid v_pinshm lgpg_regions lgpg_size strict_maxperm 0 0 0 000 number of valid memory pages = 786407 maxperm=79.9% of real memory maximum pinable=80.0% of real memoryminperm=20.0% of real memory number of file memory pages = 633864numperm=80.6% of real memory ulimit -a is saying everything unlimited! -- Med venlig hilsen / Regards Henrik UrsinTlf./Phone +45 35878934 Fax+45 35878990 Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mail: UNI-C DTU, bygning 304 DK-2800 Lyngby
Re: memory allocation error
you need to upgrade your TSM to the latest fix level go here and download it. ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com/storage/tivoli-storage-management/patches/serv er/AIX/5.1.1.6/ This should clear out a lot of bugs. Kvedja/Regards Petur Eythorsson Taeknimadur/Technician IBM Certified Specialist - AIX Tivoli Storage Manager Certified Professional Microsoft Certified System Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nyherji Hf Simi TEL: +354-569-7700 Borgartun 37105 Iceland URL:http://www.nyherji.is -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Henrik Ursin Sent: 8. oktober 2002 14:51 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: memory allocation error Hi, I'm experiencing a memory allocation error on my tsm 5.1.1.0 system. I'm running aix 4.3.3 with 3GB memory and 6GB paging space. Running a restore of 16 mill. files on af 5.1 win. client, my dsmserv proc grows to a size of 2GB and a RES memory of 500MB when the client gets system error detected and the server +stops responding to tcpip. TSM comes with the error: anrd memory allocation error. Error allocating memory of 1609 bytes! aix is not reporting of any memory errors! my vmtune looks like vmtune: current values: -p -P-r -R -f -F -N-W minperm maxperm minpgahead maxpgahead minfree maxfree pd_npages maxrandwrt 157076 628304 2 8120 128 524288 0 -M -w -k -c-b -B -u-l -d maxpin npswarn npskill numclust numfsbufs hd_pbuf_cnt lvm_bufcnt lrubucket defps 629126 46336 11584 1 93289 9 131072 1 -s -n -S -L -g -h sync_release_ilock nokilluid v_pinshm lgpg_regions lgpg_size strict_maxperm 0 0 0 00 0 number of valid memory pages = 786407 maxperm=79.9% of real memory maximum pinable=80.0% of real memoryminperm=20.0% of real memory number of file memory pages = 633864numperm=80.6% of real memory ulimit -a is saying everything unlimited! -- Med venlig hilsen / Regards Henrik UrsinTlf./Phone +45 35878934 Fax+45 35878990 Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mail: UNI-C DTU, bygning 304 DK-2800 Lyngby
Re: Renaming a TSM server.
Questions: Is this possible without damaging the DB ? What other steps should be added ? Has anyone done this before ? Yes this is realy easy. This is a OS case. if your OS (Operatin System), if your Ip, DNS configurations have been configured there should be no problem. The only thing you need to do with the TSM server is this command SET TSMSERVERNAME the name of your server Kvedja/Regards Petur Eythorsson Taeknimadur/Technician IBM Certified Specialist - AIX Tivoli Storage Manager Certified Professional Microsoft Certified System Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nyherji Hf Simi TEL: +354-569-7700 Borgartun 37105 Iceland URL:http://www.nyherji.is -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ochs, Duane Sent: 8. október 2002 15:35 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Renaming a TSM server. Good Morning everyone, Due to some reallocating of resources it has become necessary to relocated one of my TSM servers and Jukebox. Our company has historically prefixed system names with the geographical location of the installation. I would like to change the name of the TSM server to comply with this naming structure. My plan: Change the TSM server name and IP address to comply with the corporate standard in the new plant. Update my DNS to reflect the new system. Change every client's server identification to point to the new IP. Restart all schedulers and remote web services on all clients using this new IP. Duane Ochs Systems Administration Quad/Graphics Inc. 414.566.2375
Re: Renaming a TSM server.
Sure, it is easy and stable... We've moved 8 servers in the past. Once all done use Syntax -Set SERVername--server_name- to change the name of your running TSM server... Actually we just had new equipment at the new location and transported a copy of the DB. Backed it up at the old location, drove it to the new location, did a restore db at the new location, pointed all the tsm clients to the new tsm server and bounced their schedulers. We basically moved each environment in less than 90 minutes (that was db backup, drive, db restore time). Dwight -Original Message- From: Ochs, Duane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 10:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Renaming a TSM server. Good Morning everyone, Due to some reallocating of resources it has become necessary to relocated one of my TSM servers and Jukebox. Our company has historically prefixed system names with the geographical location of the installation. I would like to change the name of the TSM server to comply with this naming structure. My plan: Change the TSM server name and IP address to comply with the corporate standard in the new plant. Update my DNS to reflect the new system. Change every client's server identification to point to the new IP. Restart all schedulers and remote web services on all clients using this new IP. Questions: Is this possible without damaging the DB ? What other steps should be added ? Has anyone done this before ? Duane Ochs Systems Administration Quad/Graphics Inc. 414.566.2375
Re: Renaming a TSM server.
You can also set up a CNAME in DNS to map the old name to the new name. Then you can change the client files as time permits. On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, Pétur Eyþórsson wrote: Questions: Is this possible without damaging the DB ? What other steps should be added ? Has anyone done this before ? Yes this is realy easy. This is a OS case. if your OS (Operatin System), if your Ip, DNS configurations have been configured there should be no problem. The only thing you need to do with the TSM server is this command SET TSMSERVERNAME the name of your server Kvedja/Regards Petur Eythorsson Taeknimadur/Technician IBM Certified Specialist - AIX Tivoli Storage Manager Certified Professional Microsoft Certified System Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nyherji Hf Simi TEL: +354-569-7700 Borgartun 37105 Iceland URL:http://www.nyherji.is -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ochs, Duane Sent: 8. október 2002 15:35 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Renaming a TSM server. Good Morning everyone, Due to some reallocating of resources it has become necessary to relocated one of my TSM servers and Jukebox. Our company has historically prefixed system names with the geographical location of the installation. I would like to change the name of the TSM server to comply with this naming structure. My plan: Change the TSM server name and IP address to comply with the corporate standard in the new plant. Update my DNS to reflect the new system. Change every client's server identification to point to the new IP. Restart all schedulers and remote web services on all clients using this new IP. Duane Ochs Systems Administration Quad/Graphics Inc. 414.566.2375
Re: TSM Database Disk Layout Recommendations
Thanks, Paul, for putting this into a bit of perspective. RAID-5 is, indeed, not always bad, and the disk tuning parameters can be critical. I'm going to try something like your vmtune parameters when we move to a larger machine in a couple weeks, which will be a RS/6000 6H1 configuration fairly close to yours. I have been saying to avoid RAID-5 like the plague - for the Database only. If you think about how the Database, Log, and Disk storage pools work and are accessed, they are very different from one another. THE DATABASE is accessed randomly, even during backup, and it's normal state of affairs is to be somewhat fragmented. RAID-5 will perform badly in this environment. It's an even mix of reads and writes, scattered randomly across the entire database. Even DBBackup, which is a heavily read operation, is not sequential at all, due to normal fragmentation. And, DBBackup is rarely the only thing running when it runs - the system always has to do something else at the same time, which pulls the disk arm away from where it was reading. Mirrored JBOD disks are the only way to go, and as many of them as possible. You want lots of disk arms, to improve your multiprogramming level and ultimately the throughput (as opposed to performance!) of your entire system. Beware when measuring performance of the database, that as you move it about, you might be improving performance just by moving it, by reducing fragmentation. This is a false improvement, because fragmentation will be back over time. If you move it by unload/reload, this is certainly the case. Even if you move it by DELETE DBVOL, you are reducing a different kind of fragmentation - fragmentation of whole blocks across the disk landscape. Reduction of fragmentation can lead you to believe FALSELY that you have achieved a better disk configuration, when all you've really done is defragmentation. You need to wait for refragmentation to occur naturally to see if it really helped. THE LOG is mostly accessed sequentially, and is mostly write. RAID-5? Go for it! An almost ideal RAID-5 application. Even having pinned tail problems shouldn't hurt performance much. DISK STORAGE POOLS have big, long sequential writes during client backups, followed by big, long sequential reads during migration. Another case where RAID-5 should work fine. Plus, in this case, RAID-5 gives you protection against drive failure at very little effort on your part. The jury is out on Raw Volumes versus LVM-managed spaces. This will probably boil down to a functionality versus performance tradeoff, and ultimately, no clear winner. One clear issue with AIX LVM is that it introduces another whole level where fragmentation can occur, and it hides it better. AIX LVM is almost more like a database than a filesystem. I'm starting to be convinced by discussion here that Raw Volumes are at least worth a try. Roger Deschner University of Illinois at Chicago [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, 7 Oct 2002, Seay, Paul wrote: The reason why is because everyone is saying RAID-5 is bad versus a particular implementation or whatever. The Enterprise Storage Server (SHARK) is RAID-5 SSA under the covers. It flies because it has controllers on the front end that essentially eliminate the RAID-5 effect and can actually blow away RAID-1 solutions under high sequential write applications. The HDS 9900 series is the same. It is all a balance. RAID-5 works great for some things, bad for others. If your RAID-5 solution does any kind of parity calculation in the array it will perform well on sequential write. Why? Because the generally change from RAID-5 to RAID-3 which is the fastest on write. Now, considering this. What does high sequential write? Generally, Storage Pools and the LOG. What does high sequential read? Storage Pools and the DB during backup. So, to generally say RAID-5 is bad is totally incorrect. It depends on your hardware. The number of simultaneous write operations you can perform, the speed of your disk, etc. In the case of TSM it even depends on how your environment is setup. Would I use software RAID-5, heck no, the CPU overhead is astronomical and the read back penalty on something like Windows is will just kill you because it is a dumb RAID-5 implementation. I hope everyone will look at what they are saying and give specific complete configuration information in the future. We use the ESS. We do striping in the AIX file system, not RAID-5. Protection is performed in the ESS. We had some serious performance problems in relation to other ESS applications because we did not implement our striping correctly and our AIX system needed some serious tuning. If you are running default AIX vmtune parameters. You are probably experiencing bad performance, not because of the RAID-5 implementation, but because of the stress RAID-5 puts on the filesystem buffers in the non-comp space and causing astronomical paging on your system. You change to raw
Re: [Wayne, you need to use a subject line when you submit a post] How to do a db load/unload
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Wayne Gorton I've been thinking about the time it take s to unload and load a TSM DB. Do yourself a favor. Don't. There is no evidence that unloading and loading a TSM database has lasting benefit. There is only anecdotal evidence that it has any benefit at all; most of those who have done it have found that the database puts itself right back where it was within a few weeks. TSM's database really is self-tuning, folks. If you do a truly massive expiration, there seems to be some unbalance of the tree, but even that seems to fix itself within a few days. It is certainly not worth being offline for 24 to 36 hours. -- Mark Stapleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Certified TSM consultant Certified AIX system engineer MCSE
3584 LTO Tape/Drive/Library problems
I have a 3584-L32 with 8 FC-AL Drives and IBM tapes. Connected to AIX 4.3.3 ML10 and TSM Server 4.2.2.10 through the 2 Gigabit FC Adapters and McData ES-1000 switches (Local - not on Fabric). Atape driver is 7.1.1.0. Library code is 2460 and Drives is 25D4. 1. I have had two instances of a tape stuck in drive and the drive had to be dismantled to get tape out. IBM CE found the leader pin on the tape cartridge was out of alignment. These instances were several months apart and on different tapes and drives. He indicates that this has happened nationwide and the belief is that tapes are being dropped. Both cases here were in checking in Scratch tapes. I have insytaructed Operators in how to check tapes and I see in 3584 manual where they recommend this check. Anyone have similar experience or comments? 2. Have also had cases where tape gets write error and TSM terminates operation on this tape and picks another one. A few times the tape remained in the drive for maybe 10 - 20 minutes before it dismounted. Have had error about every 2 weeks for months even though have been using library more each week. The Firmware on library and drives was updated to current about 3 months ago. Also upgraded Atape to current version. It seems to have reduced this some but not completely. I had gotten suspicious that this was happening on one drive, the one with the Control Path. I changed the control path to another drive for a month or so and sure enough this drive now gets the write error ( and maybe the slow dismount). Essentially I have had NO ERRORS on any drives except the one on the control path (or the one that got the tape with bad leader ping alignment). Doe sanyone have any input from IBM Tucson on this or any other info? Thanks, David B. Longo System Administrator Health First, Inc. 3300 Fiske Blvd. Rockledge, FL 32955-4305 PH 321.434.5536 Pager 321.634.8230 Fax:321.434.5525 [EMAIL PROTECTED] MMS health-first.org made the following annotations on 10/08/2002 01:22:22 PM -- This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary, or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it, and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. Health First reserves the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views or opinions expressed in this message are solely those of the individual sender, except (1) where the message states such views or opinions are on behalf of a particular entity; and (2) the sender is authorized by the entity to give such views or opinions. ==
Re: (TSA600.NLM 6.0 259) This program cannot allocate a directory handle
Shannon, the latest tsa update from Novell (tsa5uo10) has updated nlms for NW6, might be worth a shot. Are any of the volumes really getting backed up? From the stats it doesn't look like it. Also, are any of these volumes NSS? Shannon Bach wrote: TSM Server MVS OS/390 2.8 Version 4, Release 2, Level 2 NetWare 6 Client Version 5, Release 1, Level 0.0 My client upgraded to NetWare 6 several weeks ago. TSM had no problems until a few days ago when the client started getting the following errors: In the Client ErrorLog; 10/03/2002 21:07:48 (TSA600.NLM 6.0 259) This program cannot allocate a directory handle. 10/03/2002 21:07:48 ANS1076E *** Directory path not found *** 10/03/2002 21:10:57 ANS1512E Scheduled event 'GRF1_NW' failed. Return code = 12. In the Client SchedLog; 10/06/2002 21:07:18 --- SCHEDULEREC QUERY BEGIN 10/06/2002 21:07:18 --- SCHEDULEREC QUERY END 10/06/2002 21:07:18 Next operation scheduled: 10/06/2002 21:07:18 10/06/2002 21:07:18 Schedule Name: GRF1_NW 10/06/2002 21:07:18 Action:Incremental 10/06/2002 21:07:18 Objects: 10/06/2002 21:07:18 Options: -verbose 10/06/2002 21:07:18 Server Window Start: 21:05:00 on 10/06/2002 10/06/2002 21:07:18 10/06/2002 21:07:18 Executing scheduled command now. 10/06/2002 21:07:18 --- SCHEDULEREC OBJECT BEGIN GRF1_NW 10/06/2002 21:05:00 10/06/2002 21:07:23 Incremental backup of volume 'S_GRF4\SERVER SPECIFIC INFO' 10/06/2002 21:07:23 Incremental backup of volume 'S_GRF4\SYS:' 10/06/2002 21:07:23 Incremental backup of volume 'S_GRF4\VOL1:' 10/06/2002 21:07:23 Incremental backup of volume 'S_GRF4\VOL2:' 10/06/2002 21:07:23 Incremental backup of volume 'S_GRF4\NETWARE6:' 10/06/2002 21:07:23 ANS1076E *** Directory path not found *** It goes on to say that the first 4 volumes were backed up successfully but the NETWARE6 volume is never mentioned again and the backup ends with this message in the SchedLog; 10/06/2002 21:09:35 --- SCHEDULEREC STATUS BEGIN 10/06/2002 21:09:35 Total number of objects inspected: 118,381 10/06/2002 21:09:35 Total number of objects backed up: 36 10/06/2002 21:09:35 Total number of objects updated: 0 10/06/2002 21:09:35 Total number of objects rebound: 0 10/06/2002 21:09:35 Total number of objects deleted: 0 10/06/2002 21:09:35 Total number of objects expired: 0 10/06/2002 21:09:35 Total number of objects failed: 0 10/06/2002 21:09:35 Total number of bytes transferred:90.24 MB 10/06/2002 21:09:35 Data transfer time: 47.36 sec 10/06/2002 21:09:35 Network data transfer rate:1,951.28 KB/sec 10/06/2002 21:09:35 Aggregate data transfer rate:700.20 KB/sec 10/06/2002 21:09:35 Objects compressed by:0% 10/06/2002 21:09:35 Elapsed processing time: 00:02:11 10/06/2002 21:09:35 --- SCHEDULEREC OBJECT END GRF1_NW 10/06/2002 21:05:00 10/06/2002 21:09:35 ANS1512E Scheduled event 'GRF1_NW' failed. Return code = 12. 10/06/2002 21:09:35 Sending results for scheduled event 'GRF1_NW'. 10/06/2002 21:09:35 Results sent to server for scheduled event 'GRF1_NW' I have searched the ADSM-L and the Tivoli search without any results. Some older reference's on this List mention a possible 'user rights' problem but nothing specific. Has anyone else had this error? If so have you found a work around? Thanks in advance! Shannon Bach Madison Gas Electric Co. Operations Analyst - Data Center Services Office 608-252-7260 Fax 608-252-7098 e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Jim Kirkman AIS - Systems UNC-Chapel Hill 966-5884
Re: 3583 FC Problem
I have already read this Redbook. I have been working with IBM Level 2 support to resolve the issue and thus far nothing is working. I can use lbtest from NT to mount and unmount tapes, but when TSM goes to load a tape it loads successful but then can't seem to do anything with it. I have the local IBM CE coming out (again!) today to test the tape drives. -- Joshua S. Bassi IBM Certified - AIX 4/5L, SAN, Shark Tivoli Certified Consultant - ADSM/TSM eServer Systems Expert -pSeries HACMP AIX, HACMP, Storage, TSM Consultant Cell (831) 595-3962 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Pétur Eyþórsson Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 3:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 3583 FC Problem Hi Joshua If you are using SAN drives. I recomend you to read this readpaper Of SAN attached tape, For use with Tivoli Storage Manager. It is not the same, configuring SAN Tape drives as you do with SCSI drives. In either case try doing this. Start your ITSM Management console. And start the Device Configiruation you should see there if you are pointing to ther right device or not. hope this helps Kvedja/Regards Petur Eythorsson Taeknimadur/Technician IBM Certified Specialist - AIX Tivoli Storage Manager Certified Professional Microsoft Certified System Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nyherji Hf Simi TEL: +354-569-7700 Borgartun 37105 Iceland URL:http://www.nyherji.is -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hooft, Jeroen Sent: 8. október 2002 07:28 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 3583 FC Problem We have a similar setup, but out San Data gateway is a separate unit. If I encounter these kind of errors I always reset the SDG. Fixes the problem mostly. Jeroen -Original Message- From: Joshua Bassi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 10:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 3583 FC Problem Thanks, but the device names haven't changed from what I have seen through device manager. -- Joshua S. Bassi IBM Certified - AIX 4/5L, SAN, Shark Tivoli Certified Consultant - ADSM/TSM eServer Systems Expert -pSeries HACMP AIX, HACMP, Storage, TSM Consultant Cell (831) 595-3962 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bill Boyer Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 1:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 3583 FC Problem Make sure that the MTx.x.x.x and LBx.x.x.x device names are the same. We've seen with the SAN stuff and Winderz that these device names change. Just had to fix a client with this problem. Bill Boyer DSS, Inc. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Joshua Bassi Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 3:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 3583 FC Problem All, I have a new install of TSM 5.1 on a Windows platform. After the initial installation by one of my colleagues, backups were working fine. After a week though, communication to the tape library/drives failed. Now we are not even able to checkin or checkout tapes from the library. All operations to the library fail now. The one thing that I am not that familiar with is the built-in SAN Data Gateway. I am using the IBM Ultrium device driver for the drives but the 3583 library is controlled by the TSM device driver. In device manager there are yellow exclamations over both the library (which is normal) and the IBM Gateway Module SCSI Array Device. I downloaded and installed the SAN Data Gateway driver but that didn't seem to help. xSeries 342 W2K SP2 server TSM 5.1.1.0 server device driver 3583 w/ 2 LVD drives attached via a built-in SAN Data Gateway Ultrium device driver 5.0.1.11 FAStT700 FC attached disk pool IBM 2109-F16 FC Switch Here are my library/drive definitions: QUERY LIBRARY F=D Library Name LibraryACS Private Scratch External RSM Media Shared LanFree ObeyMountRetention Primary Library Manager WWN Serial Number Type Id Category Category ManagerType (administrator) -- --- -- -- -- --- -- -- LB1.1.0.4SCSI No QUERY DEVCLASS F=D DeviceDevice Storage DeviceFormat Est/Max Mount Mount Mount Label Prefix Drive Library DirectoryServer Name Retry Retry Twosided Shared Class AccessPool Type Capacity Limit Wait Retention Letter Period Interval (administrator) Name Strategy Count (MB)(min) (min) ime - -- --- -
Re: IP pool buffers below threshold in errpt for css0
Thanks for your reply Michel, but the rpoolsize and spoolsize are already set to 1G root@scpm02 / # lsattr -El sys0 keylock normalState of system keylock at boot time False maxbuf 20Maximum number of pages in block I/O BUFFER CACHE True maxmbuf 0 Maximum Kbytes of real memory allowed for MBUFS True maxuproc 1 Maximum number of PROCESSES allowed per user True autorestart false Automatically REBOOT system after a crash True iostat false Continuously maintain DISK I/O history True realmem 4194304 Amount of usable physical memory in Kbytes False root@scpm02 / # lsattr -l css0 -E AMCC_bus_io0x1ec00 TB3MX user memory address False sram_memory0xc800 TB3MX user memory address False sram_size 0x0080 TB3MX user memory address True XILINX_Regs_io 0x1e800 TB3MX user memory address False int_priority 3 Interrupt priority False int_level 36 Bus interrupt level False spoolsize 10485760Size of IP send buffer True rpoolsize 10485760Size of IP receive buffer True adapter_status css_ready Configuration status False win_poolsize 83886080Total user device memory True win_maxsize16777216Maximum per-user device memory True win_minsize1048576 Minimum per-user device memory True window VSD AVAIL AVAIL AVAIL AVAIL Adapter window owners True I am really wondering if it REALLY is the size of the space, and not how many pools there are? According to the documentation, if the maxmbuf is set to 0, then thewall value is used, and is supposed to be set for 1G or 1/2 of real memory. It is set to 1G, which is 1/2 of the real 2G of memory in that box. So, in theory and in accordance with what you recommend, my values are set correctly. Because I saw that there are two ways to change the #of buffer pools-- via the vmtune -m number_of_memory_pools and the chdev -l sys0 -a maxbuf= I was thinking that it was actually the number of buffer pools and NOT the size. any thoughts?? lisa Michel Bisschoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] LD.GOV.AU cc: Sent by: ADSM: Dist Subject: Re: IP pool buffers below threshold in errpt for css0 Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] U 10/07/2002 05:30 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Hi Lisa, This error relates to the SP switch. By default the rpoolsize and spoolsize are to small sized for SP nodes with high throughput like an ITSM server. The following command will tell you about the switch settings: lsattr -El css0 and look at the values for rpoolsize and spoolsize. They should be 10485760 (for the ITSM server). Probable I'll see 2097152. To change them: /usr/lpp/ssp/css/chgcss -l css0 -a spoolsize=10485760 -a rpoolsize=10485760 As long as your SP nodes don't complain, there is no need to change these values. But you need a reboot to make the change effective. These values will be remembered after a reboot, but I noticed, sometimes they return to their default values. I think it happens after a PSSP upgrade. So it'll be better to put this command in the file: /tftpboot/tuning.cust so it'll be executed automatically after every reboot. HTH Michel Bisschoff Unix Systems Admin Brisbane, Australia -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lisa Cabanas Sent: Tuesday, 8 October 2002 2:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: IP pool buffers below threshold in errpt for css0 Hello *, Has anyone seen this before /or knows what I should change (maxbuf or a vmtune -m) to make it go away? I have been looking in the SP, PSSP, and AIX performance books, and tried to find it on IBM's site, but no luck other than I *think* I know what I am looking at, i.e., This is telling me that there aren't enough buffers (as opposed to them not being big enough) in the TCP/IP receive memory buffer. And that this error is occurring for communication across the switch. I need one of you AIX super geniuses to help me out, please! thanks lisa LABEL: IP_POOL_BT_RE IDENTIFIER: 454AAA48 Date/Time: Sun Oct 6 23:00:39 Sequence Number: 10357 Machine Id: 000F964F4C00 Node Id: scpm02 Class: S Type:INFO Resource Name: css Description IP pool buffers below threshold Probable Causes Not enough pool buffers for workload User Causes None Recommended Actions Pool tuning required Detail Data Software ID String LPP=PSSP,Fn
Re: 3583 FC Problem
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Joshua Bassi I have already read this Redbook. I have been working with IBM Level 2 support to resolve the issue and thus far nothing is working. I can use lbtest from NT to mount and unmount tapes, but when TSM goes to load a tape it loads successful but then can't seem to do anything with it. I have the local IBM CE coming out (again!) today to test the tape drives. A good beer says you've got a mismatch of element numbers with LUN numbers. That would explain 1) why lbtest works fine 2) why the library will load a tape (tape load uses the LUN to locate the device), but also why it can't read, write, or unload the tape. (These operations use the element number.) Element match with fiber drives is tricky. Your best bet is disable (via upd path) all drives but one, and use trial and error to get the element right. -- Mark Stapleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Certified TSM consultant Certified AIX system engineer MCSE
Re: 3583 FC Problem
I tried that for a couple hours yesterday. There are two drives, I disabled one and tried both element numbers on the working drive. Nothing! Then I disabled that drive and tried both element numbers on the 2nd drive. Nothing! A great idea, but unfortunately I already tried that one. -- Joshua S. Bassi IBM Certified - AIX 4/5L, SAN, Shark Tivoli Certified Consultant - ADSM/TSM eServer Systems Expert -pSeries HACMP AIX, HACMP, Storage, TSM Consultant Cell (831) 595-3962 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mark Stapleton Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 11:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 3583 FC Problem From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Joshua Bassi I have already read this Redbook. I have been working with IBM Level 2 support to resolve the issue and thus far nothing is working. I can use lbtest from NT to mount and unmount tapes, but when TSM goes to load a tape it loads successful but then can't seem to do anything with it. I have the local IBM CE coming out (again!) today to test the tape drives. A good beer says you've got a mismatch of element numbers with LUN numbers. That would explain 1) why lbtest works fine 2) why the library will load a tape (tape load uses the LUN to locate the device), but also why it can't read, write, or unload the tape. (These operations use the element number.) Element match with fiber drives is tricky. Your best bet is disable (via upd path) all drives but one, and use trial and error to get the element right. -- Mark Stapleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Certified TSM consultant Certified AIX system engineer MCSE
Re: 3583 FC Problem
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Joshua Bassi I tried that for a couple hours yesterday. There are two drives, I disabled one and tried both element numbers on the working drive. Nothing! Then I disabled that drive and tried both element numbers on the 2nd drive. Nothing! A pesky question: what element numbers did you use? -- Mark Stapleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Certified TSM consultant Certified AIX system engineer MCSE
Re: (TSA600.NLM 6.0 259) This program cannot allocate a directory handle
I just ran into this on one of my Netware 5 servers. The Novell guys increased the number of handles on the server now it is backing up OK. Hope this helps. --- Bruce Kamp Network Analyst II Memorial Healthcare System E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] P: (954) 987-2020 x4597 F: (954) 985-1404 -Original Message- From: Jim Kirkman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 1:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (TSA600.NLM 6.0 259) This program cannot allocate a directory handle Shannon, the latest tsa update from Novell (tsa5uo10) has updated nlms for NW6, might be worth a shot. Are any of the volumes really getting backed up? From the stats it doesn't look like it. Also, are any of these volumes NSS? Shannon Bach wrote: TSM Server MVS OS/390 2.8 Version 4, Release 2, Level 2 NetWare 6 Client Version 5, Release 1, Level 0.0 My client upgraded to NetWare 6 several weeks ago. TSM had no problems until a few days ago when the client started getting the following errors: In the Client ErrorLog; 10/03/2002 21:07:48 (TSA600.NLM 6.0 259) This program cannot allocate a directory handle. 10/03/2002 21:07:48 ANS1076E *** Directory path not found *** 10/03/2002 21:10:57 ANS1512E Scheduled event 'GRF1_NW' failed. Return code = 12. In the Client SchedLog; 10/06/2002 21:07:18 --- SCHEDULEREC QUERY BEGIN 10/06/2002 21:07:18 --- SCHEDULEREC QUERY END 10/06/2002 21:07:18 Next operation scheduled: 10/06/2002 21:07:18 10/06/2002 21:07:18 Schedule Name: GRF1_NW 10/06/2002 21:07:18 Action:Incremental 10/06/2002 21:07:18 Objects: 10/06/2002 21:07:18 Options: -verbose 10/06/2002 21:07:18 Server Window Start: 21:05:00 on 10/06/2002 10/06/2002 21:07:18 10/06/2002 21:07:18 Executing scheduled command now. 10/06/2002 21:07:18 --- SCHEDULEREC OBJECT BEGIN GRF1_NW 10/06/2002 21:05:00 10/06/2002 21:07:23 Incremental backup of volume 'S_GRF4\SERVER SPECIFIC INFO' 10/06/2002 21:07:23 Incremental backup of volume 'S_GRF4\SYS:' 10/06/2002 21:07:23 Incremental backup of volume 'S_GRF4\VOL1:' 10/06/2002 21:07:23 Incremental backup of volume 'S_GRF4\VOL2:' 10/06/2002 21:07:23 Incremental backup of volume 'S_GRF4\NETWARE6:' 10/06/2002 21:07:23 ANS1076E *** Directory path not found *** It goes on to say that the first 4 volumes were backed up successfully but the NETWARE6 volume is never mentioned again and the backup ends with this message in the SchedLog; 10/06/2002 21:09:35 --- SCHEDULEREC STATUS BEGIN 10/06/2002 21:09:35 Total number of objects inspected: 118,381 10/06/2002 21:09:35 Total number of objects backed up: 36 10/06/2002 21:09:35 Total number of objects updated: 0 10/06/2002 21:09:35 Total number of objects rebound: 0 10/06/2002 21:09:35 Total number of objects deleted: 0 10/06/2002 21:09:35 Total number of objects expired: 0 10/06/2002 21:09:35 Total number of objects failed: 0 10/06/2002 21:09:35 Total number of bytes transferred:90.24 MB 10/06/2002 21:09:35 Data transfer time: 47.36 sec 10/06/2002 21:09:35 Network data transfer rate:1,951.28 KB/sec 10/06/2002 21:09:35 Aggregate data transfer rate:700.20 KB/sec 10/06/2002 21:09:35 Objects compressed by:0% 10/06/2002 21:09:35 Elapsed processing time: 00:02:11 10/06/2002 21:09:35 --- SCHEDULEREC OBJECT END GRF1_NW 10/06/2002 21:05:00 10/06/2002 21:09:35 ANS1512E Scheduled event 'GRF1_NW' failed. Return code = 12. 10/06/2002 21:09:35 Sending results for scheduled event 'GRF1_NW'. 10/06/2002 21:09:35 Results sent to server for scheduled event 'GRF1_NW' I have searched the ADSM-L and the Tivoli search without any results. Some older reference's on this List mention a possible 'user rights' problem but nothing specific. Has anyone else had this error? If so have you found a work around? Thanks in advance! Shannon Bach Madison Gas Electric Co. Operations Analyst - Data Center Services Office 608-252-7260 Fax 608-252-7098 e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Jim Kirkman AIS - Systems UNC-Chapel Hill 966-5884
Re: 3583 FC Problem
256 257 -- Joshua S. Bassi IBM Certified - AIX 4/5L, SAN, Shark Tivoli Certified Consultant - ADSM/TSM eServer Systems Expert -pSeries HACMP AIX, HACMP, Storage, TSM Consultant Cell (831) 595-3962 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mark Stapleton Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 11:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 3583 FC Problem From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Joshua Bassi I tried that for a couple hours yesterday. There are two drives, I disabled one and tried both element numbers on the working drive. Nothing! Then I disabled that drive and tried both element numbers on the 2nd drive. Nothing! A pesky question: what element numbers did you use? -- Mark Stapleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Certified TSM consultant Certified AIX system engineer MCSE
Re: IP pool buffers below threshold in errpt for css0
Some comments: The size is megabytes, not gigabytes. If it is too small, bump it up. 16MB is the max. But I believe the memory is pinned. EX: unxd:./lsattr -El css0 ... spoolsize 14680064Size of IP send buffer True rpoolsize 16777216Size of IP receive buffer True ... These buffers are not related to vmtune. The error is for the CSS only. Miles [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08-Oct-02 1:01:24 PM Thanks for your reply Michel, but the rpoolsize and spoolsize are already set to 1G root@scpm02 / # lsattr -El sys0 keylock normalState of system keylock at boot time False maxbuf 20Maximum number of pages in block I/O BUFFER CACHE True maxmbuf 0 Maximum Kbytes of real memory allowed for MBUFS True maxuproc 1 Maximum number of PROCESSES allowed per user True autorestart false Automatically REBOOT system after a crash True iostat false Continuously maintain DISK I/O history True realmem 4194304 Amount of usable physical memory in Kbytes False root@scpm02 / # lsattr -l css0 -E AMCC_bus_io0x1ec00 TB3MX user memory address False sram_memory0xc800 TB3MX user memory address False sram_size 0x0080 TB3MX user memory address True XILINX_Regs_io 0x1e800 TB3MX user memory address False int_priority 3 Interrupt priority False int_level 36 Bus interrupt level False spoolsize 10485760Size of IP send buffer True rpoolsize 10485760Size of IP receive buffer True adapter_status css_ready Configuration status False win_poolsize 83886080Total user device memory True win_maxsize16777216Maximum per-user device memory True win_minsize1048576 Minimum per-user device memory True window VSD AVAIL AVAIL AVAIL AVAIL Adapter window owners True I am really wondering if it REALLY is the size of the space, and not how many pools there are? According to the documentation, if the maxmbuf is set to 0, then thewall value is used, and is supposed to be set for 1G or 1/2 of real memory. It is set to 1G, which is 1/2 of the real 2G of memory in that box. So, in theory and in accordance with what you recommend, my values are set correctly. Because I saw that there are two ways to change the #of buffer pools-- via the vmtune -m number_of_memory_pools and the chdev -l sys0 -a maxbuf= I was thinking that it was actually the number of buffer pools and NOT the size. any thoughts?? lisa Michel Bisschoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] LD.GOV.AU cc: Sent by: ADSM: Dist Subject: Re: IP pool buffers below threshold in errpt for css0 Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] U 10/07/2002 05:30 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Hi Lisa, This error relates to the SP switch. By default the rpoolsize and spoolsize are to small sized for SP nodes with high throughput like an ITSM server. The following command will tell you about the switch settings: lsattr -El css0 and look at the values for rpoolsize and spoolsize. They should be 10485760 (for the ITSM server). Probable I'll see 2097152. To change them: /usr/lpp/ssp/css/chgcss -l css0 -a spoolsize=10485760 -a rpoolsize=10485760 As long as your SP nodes don't complain, there is no need to change these values. But you need a reboot to make the change effective. These values will be remembered after a reboot, but I noticed, sometimes they return to their default values. I think it happens after a PSSP upgrade. So it'll be better to put this command in the file: /tftpboot/tuning.cust so it'll be executed automatically after every reboot. HTH Michel Bisschoff Unix Systems Admin Brisbane, Australia -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lisa Cabanas Sent: Tuesday, 8 October 2002 2:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: IP pool buffers below threshold in errpt for css0 Hello *, Has anyone seen this before /or knows what I should change (maxbuf or a vmtune -m) to make it go away? I have been looking in the SP, PSSP, and AIX performance books, and tried to find it on IBM's site, but no luck other than I *think* I know what I am looking at, i.e., This is telling me that there aren't enough buffers (as opposed to them not being big enough) in the TCP/IP receive memory buffer. And that this error is occurring for communication across the switch. I need one of you AIX super geniuses to help me out, please! thanks lisa
Re: APAR taken on the Quotes not working in the ADMIN GUI
Apparently, all. For sure in 4.2.1.x and 4.2.2.x. Paul D. Seay, Jr. Technical Specialist Naptheon Inc. 757-688-8180 -Original Message- From: Pétur Eyþórsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 6:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: APAR taken on the Quotes not working in the ADMIN GUI hey Paul in what version is this bug? Kvedja/Regards Petur Eythorsson Taeknimadur/Technician IBM Certified Specialist - AIX Tivoli Storage Manager Certified Professional Microsoft Certified System Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nyherji Hf Simi TEL: +354-569-7700 Borgartun 37105 Iceland URL:http://www.nyherji.is -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Seay, Paul Sent: 8. október 2002 02:06 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: APAR taken on the Quotes not working in the ADMIN GUI --TivWeb: Quotes Not Handled in Command Line Correctly --The following select will not work in the Web Admin GUI Command Line select node_name as Node Name from nodes I have tested this issue in the Web Admin Client Command Line and received the same error message that you are getting. ANR2905E Unexpected SQL identifier token - 'NAME'. | .V.. select node_name as Node Name from nodes This same syntax works as designed in the Admin Command Line but in the Web Admin client, TSM is effectively removing the double quotes in the argument after the AS keyword. This is a defect in the Web Admin client and an APAR (IC347070) has been with development to correct the issue. Paul D. Seay, Jr. Technical Specialist Naptheon Inc. 757-688-8180
Re: APAR taken on the Quotes not working in the ADMIN GUI
FYI... We also have this bug but are running 5.1.1.0 on W2k. Chris Murphy IT Network Analyst ID Dept. of Lands (208) 334-0293 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Seay, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 2:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: APAR taken on the Quotes not working in the ADMIN GUI Apparently, all. For sure in 4.2.1.x and 4.2.2.x. Paul D. Seay, Jr. Technical Specialist Naptheon Inc. 757-688-8180
Re: TSM Database Disk Layout Recommendations
Storage Pools are JFS. I got a pretty good bump on Storage Pool backups and migrations when I increased the page read ahead to 256K from the default. The reason for 256K is we are striping 4 ESS LUNs together that are on 4 different arrays in the ESS on 4 different ESS loops for out TSM Database. The ESS will read into its internal cache roughly 64K from each LUN with 36GB drives. So, when reading sequentially the ESS stages 256K and transfers all of it to satisfy the read ahead. The stripe size is 128K in the file system. So essentially 2 buffers are read sequentially. There is some round off error, but the point is fewer operations, use 5 gallon buckets instead of 8 ounce cups to fill up the tank. Note that I have not fixed all the storage pools yet so when we do that I am expecting some improved performance on the storage pool movement as well. Paul D. Seay, Jr. Technical Specialist Naptheon Inc. 757-688-8180 -Original Message- From: Andrew Carlson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 9:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TSM Database Disk Layout Recommendations Are your storage pools JFS or Raw? Did you try both? When I first created this server (AIX 4.3.3 on an S7A), I used all raw, but did not see that the memory was being utilized. Then I changed the storage pools to JFS for the readahead functionality (using straight SSA disk for those). While I have alot of page steals, I think the JFS has helped the daily processes that read the storagpools (backup stgpool and migration). Andy Carlson|\ _,,,---,,_ Senior Technical Specialist ZZZzz /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_ BJC Health Care|,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' St. Louis, Missouri '---''(_/--' `-'\_) Cat Pics: http://andyc.dyndns.org/animal.html On Mon, 7 Oct 2002, Seay, Paul wrote: The reason why is because everyone is saying RAID-5 is bad versus a particular implementation or whatever. The Enterprise Storage Server (SHARK) is RAID-5 SSA under the covers. It flies because it has controllers on the front end that essentially eliminate the RAID-5 effect and can actually blow away RAID-1 solutions under high sequential write applications. The HDS 9900 series is the same. It is all a balance. RAID-5 works great for some things, bad for others. If your RAID-5 solution does any kind of parity calculation in the array it will perform well on sequential write. Why? Because the generally change from RAID-5 to RAID-3 which is the fastest on write. Now, considering this. What does high sequential write? Generally, Storage Pools and the LOG. What does high sequential read? Storage Pools and the DB during backup. So, to generally say RAID-5 is bad is totally incorrect. It depends on your hardware. The number of simultaneous write operations you can perform, the speed of your disk, etc. In the case of TSM it even depends on how your environment is setup. Would I use software RAID-5, heck no, the CPU overhead is astronomical and the read back penalty on something like Windows is will just kill you because it is a dumb RAID-5 implementation. I hope everyone will look at what they are saying and give specific complete configuration information in the future. We use the ESS. We do striping in the AIX file system, not RAID-5. Protection is performed in the ESS. We had some serious performance problems in relation to other ESS applications because we did not implement our striping correctly and our AIX system needed some serious tuning. If you are running default AIX vmtune parameters. You are probably experiencing bad performance, not because of the RAID-5 implementation, but because of the stress RAID-5 puts on the filesystem buffers in the non-comp space and causing astronomical paging on your system. You change to raw and magically the problem goes away. Why, becauase the file system usage drops dramatically and the paging stops. By changing to the recommendations folks kindly suggested over the past weeks. My database backup time went from about 3 hours down to 1 hour for an 85GB database. My storage pools have dramatically improved as well and I have not corrected their striping yet. How did I get the performance: maxperm set to 40 minperm set to 10 max page read ahead set to 256K bufferpool set to 256MB (memory on the machine is 2GB) sufficient free pages to support the max read ahead (there are rules about this number) Our machine is a P660-6H1, (4) 450MZ processors, 2GB memory, 2 Fibre Channel cards for the disk, 4 for the tape (1 Gbit) 640GB of ESS disk 14 Magstar Drives in use so far, eventually 32. 2 Gbit Ethernet Cards. Yes, my environment may be unique, but at least I am telling you why what I have works well so that
Re: Is there 3 good reporting tool for TSM on
We are also using TSMManager and like it a lot!! Recommend it! Philip Hamlin Network Analyst, Information Systems Independent Bank Corporation 616.527.5820 ex1383 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Privacy Statement: This message may contain confidential information that is protected under state and/or federal law. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender by fax or email and delete this message. If you properly received this message, you may use its contents only in strict accordance with our instructions and privacy policy. If any person makes a false or misleading representation to obtain customer information, that person may have committed a federal crime, and we may report that person to the proper authorities. -Original Message- From: Lambelet,Rene,VEVEY,GL-CSC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 10:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Is there 3 good reporting tool for TSM on Hi, we use an very nice software, to take the tour, just go to www.tsmmanager.com I am sure you will love it, www.servergraph.com is another solution to check, René LAMBELET NESTEC SA GLOBE - Global Business Excellence Central Support Center Information Technology Av. Nestlé 55 CH-1800 Vevey (Switzerland) tél +41 (0)21 924 35 43 fax +41 (0)21 703 30 17 local UBS-Nestec, Bussigny mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This message is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. -Original Message- From: Lawrence Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday,8. October 2002 14:58 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Is there 3 good reporting tool for TSM on Are there 3 reporting tools for TSM. And any comments on their features?
Expected throughput rate for space reclamation
We are achieving 30GB/hour doing our tape-to-tape storage pool backup and are happy with that rate. With this in mind, what do you feel would be an acceptable rate for tape-to-tape space reclamation? I realize that every hardware configuration is different and different shops have different constrained resources, but I'm hoping some of you have some rules-of-thumb as to how tape stgpool backup typically compares to tape stgpool reclamation. Bob Brazner Johnson Controls, Inc. (414) 524-2570
Script problems
Folks, Just today, I upgraded from TSM 4.1 to TSM 5.1 This is an AIX host running 4.3.3 ML 10. Everything went smoothly. It even rebuilt the new path configurations for the tapes and drives by itself. I didn't have the cleanup backupset issue because this TSM server only backs up some VMS clusters, so I had no SYSTEM OBJECTS. I most likely will not be so lucky in 2 weeks when I have to upgrade some TSM servers that backup NT hosts) I've only encountered 1 problem this far: I gather some stats off of the TSM server with various scripts. When I run these scripts, I typically put a /dev/null on the end, otherwise it gets to the first (ENTER to continue, 'C' to cancel) prompt and just sits there. As a simple example: dsmadmc -id=## -pass=## select volume_name from volumes where devclass_name like '3590DEV' /dev/null (to get a listing of tape numbers of a certain device class). This has always worked in the past but now that I'm at 5.1, it gets to the first (ENTER to continue, 'C' to cancel) prompt and then perpetually spews: ... The character '#' stands for any decimal integer.The only valid responses are characters from this set: [Enter, C] The character '#' stands for any decimal integer.The only valid responses are characters from this set: [Enter, C] The character '#' stands for any decimal integer.The only valid responses are characters from this set: [Enter, C] ... It seems to dislike the /dev/null very much. Anybody seen this? Is there a better way to do this? I'm guessing there is, otherwise it would be in the archives. Something like a -youdonthavetohittheenterkey option. Somebody enlighten me. ;-) Thanks, Ben
Re: 5.1.1.6 Upgrade (cleanup backupgroups)
This is the issue that requires the special fix. Call support, LEVEL 2 has a fix for this. Paul D. Seay, Jr. Technical Specialist Naptheon Inc. 757-688-8180 -Original Message- From: Suad Musovich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 12:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 5.1.1.6 Upgrade (cleanup backupgroups) Hmm, I tried running the cleanup backupgroups command and got the result: ANR0106E imutil.c(8262): Unexpected error 0 fetching row in table Object.Ids Sigh Seems to be a known problem. (and I'm running 4.2.2.12) Suad -- APAR= IC34375 SER=IN INCORROUT TSM SERVER CLEANUP BACKUPGROUPS UTILITY NEEDS ENHANCEMENTS. ANR0106E UNEXPECTED ERROR FOR OBJECT.IDS AND RESTARTABILITY Status: CLOSED Closed: 09/30/02 Apar Information: RCOMP= 5698TSMAXTSM AIX SERVER RREL= R420 FCOMP= 5698TSMAXTSM AIX SERVER PFREL= F999 TREL= T SRLS: NONE Return Codes: Applicable Component Level/SU: R420 PSY UP R410 PSN UP Error Description: The cleanup backupgroups utility was created to cleanup orphaned entries within a TSM server database table. While running this utility function to perform the cleanup some addtion problems with the datbase entries were encountered. When this occured ANR0106E imutil.c(3804): Unexpected error 0 fetching row in table Object.Ids was received. In addtion due to the long running nature of this cleanup activity an enhancment to this code was needed to make it a server process that could be cancelled and restarted if needed. If restarted it should begin processing where it left off. Local Fix: Apply patch 4.2.2.12 or higher, available through Tivoli Web Page to resolve this problem, or fixing PTF when available. Problem Summary: * USERS AFFECTED: 4.2.2.x and 5.1.x server users needing to* * run the CLEANUP BACKUPGROUPS utility to * * correct the orphaned group member problem. * * PROBLEM DESCRIPTION: The CLEANUP BACKUPGROUPS utility is * * very difficult to manage in a * * production environment. * * It runs as a foreground process * * without displaying any status and can * * not be stopped and restarted. * * RECOMMENDATION: Install 423 ptf. * The CLEANUP BACKUPGROUPS utility runs as a foreground process without displaying any status and can not be stopped and restarted. Temporary Fix: Comments: MODULES/MACROS: NONE Problem Conclusion: The CLEANUP BACKUPGROUP utility has been enhanced to run as a backup ground process that: Can be queried for progress. Can be canceled. Can be restarted and will restart where it left off. On Tue, 2002-10-08 at 08:13, Lisa Cabanas wrote: So, Paul, would you recommend 4.2.1.12 as stable? I am at 4.2.1.9 (on AIX) and am unable to test 5.1 at this point. 4.2.1.9 to 4.2.2.12 wouldn't seem to be that nasty of a jump. thanks lisa Seay, Paul seay_pd@NAPTH To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EON.COM cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: 5.1.1.6 Upgrade (cleanup backupgroups) ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] IST.EDU 10/02/2002 07:29 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager OK, I ran cleanup backupgroups for a week and it returned 1.5M pages to my database. However, that was not continuous time. I would run it for several hours and cancel it as needed to prevent conflicts with other stuff. My experience was it literally shuts down backup stg and database backups. I have not had to halt the server to get it out of the system. If you had to halt the server, you probably have an additional problem. Note that cleanup backupgroups is also in the release that I am running 4.2.2.12. You do not have to go to 5.1.1.6 to get this fix. The system object problem occurs in 4.2 as well. The time to run the cleanup backupgroups has not specific run time. It will run as long as it needs to seconds, minutes, hours, days, weeks, years, decades, centuries. Whatever it takes. Boy is this a nasty issue. Paul D. Seay, Jr. Technical Specialist Naptheon Inc. 757-688-8180 -Original Message- From: Maria Ragan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 10:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 5.1.1.6 Upgrade
Re: Expected throughput rate for space reclamation
It has more to do with the file sizes and numbers of objects in aggregates, etc. Then, hardware comes into play, so drastically, there is no answer to this question. Paul D. Seay, Jr. Technical Specialist Naptheon Inc. 757-688-8180 -Original Message- From: Brazner, Bob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 6:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Expected throughput rate for space reclamation We are achieving 30GB/hour doing our tape-to-tape storage pool backup and are happy with that rate. With this in mind, what do you feel would be an acceptable rate for tape-to-tape space reclamation? I realize that every hardware configuration is different and different shops have different constrained resources, but I'm hoping some of you have some rules-of-thumb as to how tape stgpool backup typically compares to tape stgpool reclamation. Bob Brazner Johnson Controls, Inc. (414) 524-2570
FW: Possible scenario for a DB unload, reloading and db restore
Sorry, I just realized I send my previous append without a subject. Pardon me sending this again, if you have already read it. Howdy People, I've been thinking about the time it take s to unload and load a TSM DB. Depending on the size of the TSM DB it may require TSM to be offline for more than a day. I welcome some thoughts about the following steps:- 1) loaddb the production TSM DB. 2) Bring TSM back up to continue operation. 3) loadformat and load the TSM DB onto a big test system. 4) Backup db on the production TSM DB. 5) Shutdown the production TSM DB. 6) Copy the new optimized db files across to the production TSM server. 7) DSMSERV RESTORE DB for step 4. Would the restore be possible in the first place. Would the restore db have a fragmentation effect on the optimized db? On a general note, I was under the impression that the unload did the optimization, but from some load times I've seen, it may be done on the load operation. Which is it? Alternately we could do an cut-down export and import of the nodes. Share and Enjoy Wayne Gorton TSM Certified Nerd Innovative Business Knowledge (IBK) P/L PH:+61 2 9614 1604 FAX: +61 3 9820 2840 MOB: +61 417 427 441 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (HYPERLINK http://www.grisoft.comhttp://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.386 / Virus Database: 218 - Release Date: 09-Sep-02 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.394 / Virus Database: 224 - Release Date: 03-Oct-02
