Re: Need a script
Wanda Prather wrote re deleting a single file from a tape C. Next, set up the client's dsm.opt to include ONLY the targeted file and exclude all others include /path/file newmgmtclass . D. Run a backup. When the backup completes, run expiration. Wanda, Maybe I'm having a senior moment, but if you do a backup excluding all other files, isn't that the same to TSM as deleting them all from the client so they become inactive and expire according to their management classes. John ** The information in this E-Mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It may not represent the views of Scottish and Southern Energy Group. It is intended solely for the addressees. Access to this E-Mail by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any unauthorised recipient should advise the sender immediately of the error in transmission. Unless specifically stated otherwise, this email (or any attachments to it) is not an offer capable of acceptance or acceptance of an offer and it does not form part of a binding contractual agreement. Scottish Hydro-Electric, Southern Electric, SWALEC, S+S and SSE Power Distribution are trading names of the Scottish and Southern Energy Group. **
Error in actlog for windows nodes
Hi *SM-ers! I see the following error on a daily basis in my actlog for 3 different Windows nodes: ANRD smnode.c(7035): ThreadId109 Internal Error - invalid insert length (21615) for event insert 0 received for event number 4952 from (WinNT)AF05053. The local client logs however do not show any errors, no failed backups and no entries in the dsmerror.log. Has anybody seen this before? Thank you very much for any reply! Kindest regards, Eric van Loon KLM Royal Dutch Airlines ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. **
Problems with TSM and tapes
Hi all, Recently we've started seeing these messages pop up when we try to run our nightly db2 backup: 03/10/2005 02:24:25 ANR8337I LTO volume 02L2 mounted in drive DRIVE0 AM(/dev/IBMtape0). 03/10/2005 02:33:49 ANR8341I End-of-volume reached for LTO volume 02L2. AM 03/10/2005 02:33:51 ANRD pvrntp.c(2541): ThreadId18 NtpOpFlush error on AMdrive DRIVE0 (/dev/IBMtape0); already reached EOV once. Callchain of previous message: 0x08793053 outDiagf+0x203 - 0x08857b37 NtpFlush+0x1d7 - 0x0885793e NtpWrite+0x 50e - 0x08867533 LtoWrite+0x83 - 0x084c7c5f AgentThread+0x93f - 0x0809c53f StartThread+0x8f - 0xb759bdac *UNKNOWN* - 0xb7537a8a *UNKNOWN* - 03/10/2005 02:33:51 ANR1411W Access mode for volume 02L2 now set to AMread-only due to write error. 03/10/2005 02:33:51 ANR0523W Transaction failed for session 5072 for node AMELMSDB (DB2/LINUX) - error on output storage device. 03/10/2005 02:33:54 ANR0403I Session 5072 ended for node ELMSDB (DB2/LINUX). AM Now if we update the access on the tape to readwrite and use db2adutl to delete a few of the backups, everything is fine but the tape library is a 3582 LTO2 and there are PLENTY of scratch volumes. Shouldn't TSM just use another tape? We're running TSM Version 5, Release 2, Level 2.0 on RHEL 3.0 and DB2 is running DB2 8.1FP4. Thanks for any help! John E. Vincent
Re: LTO Volume
Hi Richard! You remembered correctly! I've had IBM open APAR IC43086 for this behavior. This problem is projected to be fixed in 5.2.5. My guess it will be fixed in 5.3.1 too then. Kindest regards, Eric van Loon -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Richard Sims Sent: Sunday, 6 March 2005 1:14 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: LTO Volume Akash - I term this Tape leak, as I summarize in http://people.bu.edu/rbs/ADSM.QuickFacts . We had a good discussion of this about 6 months ago on ADSM-L. One member was pursuing it with IBM as a problem. For administration at my site, I created a macro called filling, which does the following: SELECT STGPOOL_NAME AS STORAGE POOL , CHAR(VOLUME_NAME,6) AS VOLNAME, PCT_UTILIZED as PCT UTIL, DEC(EST_CAPACITY_MB,6) AS MB_CAPACITY, CHAR(ACCESS,11) AS ACCESS, LEFT(CHAR(LAST_WRITE_DATE),19) AS LAST_WRITE_DATE FROM VOLUMES WHERE STATUS='FILLING' ORDER BY STGPOOL_NAME This is handy for monitoring tapes which are in Filling state, and also watching for tapes which become Readonly due to events occurring as they are filling. Richard Sims On Mar 5, 2005, at 12:27 PM, Akash Jain wrote: Hi experts, I have one simple query. While taking backups on LTO through, it occupies new LTO volume only after the used and in process volume will display status as 'FULL'. But in my case I had observed that it had started taking backup on other LTO volume in spite of the previous one in 'FILLING' status. BTO557TAPEPOOL LTOCLASS528,305.3 100.0 Filling BT0558TAPEPOOL LTOCLASS200,000.0 15.5 Filling Kindly provide the logical reasoning if any for the same. Regards Akash ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. **
Help required on JBB
I've been implementing Journal Based Backups for the first time using the 5.3 Windows client and thought I'd share some of my experiences and issues. According to the Problem Determination Guide, there is a tool called DBViewB.EXE for testing the validity of a filesystem journal database file. The corresponding tool for v5.1 and v5.2 was called DBView.EXE and was available as part of an unsupported download called JBBTools.zip. A link to this is included in the TSM Journal Based Backup FAQ (IBM document reference 1155524). However the database structure has changed in 5.3 and the old tools no longer work. Does anybody know where I can find a copy of DBViewB.EXE as this information seems to have been omitted from the Problem Determination Guide? While I'm on the subject of the change to the database structure in 5.3, the new journal files have a '.jbbdb' extension, but these files are not part of the default list of files to be excluded from the journaling in TSMJBBD.INI. However the old journal database files are excluded. Surely this is an omission? Finally, the NLSREPOS entry in the TSMJBBD.INI file defaults to DSCAMENG.TXT. This causes a warning if you try to run the Journal Service as a foreground process (TSMJBBD.EXE i) as this file does not exist in the BAClient directory. I was under the impression that DSCAMENG.TXT had been superseded since v5.2 by DSMENU.TXT and that the existence of DSMAMENG.TXT in the API directory was only for backward compatibility. I'll try logging a call with IBM Support but wondered if anybody had similar experiences. Don't get me wrong, I think JBB is excellent. I've managed to reduce the daily backup of a file system containing 5.6 million files from 9 hours to 8 seconds! Regards Neil Schofield Yorkshire Water Services Ltd. Visit cool-fuel.com to see our fun, interactive website for children YORKSHIRE WATER - WINNER OF THE UTILITY OF THE YEAR AWARD The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also be legally privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are subject to the legal notice available at http://www.keldagroup.com/email.htm Yorkshire Water Services Limited Registered Office Western House Halifax Road Bradford BD6 2SZ Registered in England and Wales No 2366682
Re: migration and backup
I stop schedule backup and manual backup. While TSM client implement backup, it stop tranferring file immediately. I query TSM server and see : - q volume : Disk pool : Pct Ultil 80% Volume Status : On-line - q session : Sess state : MediaW -q process : migration process is still running. later ten minutes, I check again and see Session state : MediaW I use LTO GEN2 and its read/write speed is 10-20 MB/s native and 20-40 MB/s compressed as producer said. The speed is more than LAN speed. I think if I backup directly to tape with this speed it is suitable. But I only see network tranfer rate is very low (about 1-2 MB/s). Is there method to improve peformance of TSM server ? - Original Message - From: Tab Trepagnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 7:30 AM Subject: Re: migration and backup Iain, I run small disk pools also, and I also had HI=0 for a while. That's not a good idea because you prevent TSM from combining data into a internal package prior to migration. We saw files as small as 1 KB migrating. That forces your TSM server to track a HUGE number of objects. Now, on our smallest disk pools (5 to 6 GB) we set HI=10 so that migration doesn't begin until 500-600 MB of data has been committed. Much better performance. We also set a 1 GB max size so that if a client sends a very large file - say 3 GB - it goes straight to tape. Tab Trepagnier TSM Administrator Laitram, L.L.C. Iain Barnetson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 03/04/2005 04:24 AM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU To ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: migration and backup I'm in a similar situation where my primary stg diskpool is not big enough to contain a nights backups. I have the migration set to hi=0 lo=0. This means it's constantly migrating but I've 6 dedicated lto2 tape drives so isn't an issue for me. Regards, Iain -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Naylor Sent: 04 March 2005 10:17 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] migration and backup Your disk pool is way too small. It should be large enough to hold one night's backups If you can't do that, set your hi mig threshold to a low value say 10 or even lower At 80% your backup fills up the remaining 20% of your pool faster than migration can empty it. nghiatd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu 04/03/2005 10:15 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu To ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu cc Subject migration and backup Hi all, I setup TSM ver 5.2 client on Win 2K that has more than 200 GB data, But TSM server machine only 20 GB hard disk. So I configure Backuppool --- Diskpool ---Tapepool. Diskpool : 18 GB High Migration Threshold : 80 % Low Migration Threshold : 0 %. People said when migration process is started, backup process is still continuous. But I view log file ; 02/03/2005 06:22:26 Normal File-- 719,648,279 \\BILL2_200411_2.tar * Unsuccessful* 02/03/2005 06:22:26 A1114I Waiting for mount of offline media. 02/03/2005 06:55:37 Retry # 1 Normal File-- 719,648,279 \\BILL2_200411_2.tar [Sent] 02/03/2005 06:55:37 ANS1809W Session is lost; initializing session reopen procedure. 02/03/2005 06:55:53 ... successful 02/03/2005 06:56:16 Normal File-- 726,513,573 \\BILL2_200411_3.tar [Sent] So backup was stopped when migration process is started. Does anyone have idea to backup process still continue ? Nghiatd ** The information in this E-Mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It may not represent the views of Scottish and Southern Energy Group. It is intended solely for the addressees. Access to this E-Mail by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any unauthorised recipient should advise the sender immediately of the error in transmission. Unless specifically stated otherwise, this email (or any attachments to it) is not an offer capable of acceptance or acceptance of an offer and it does not form part of a binding contractual agreement. Scottish Hydro-Electric, Southern Electric, SWALEC, S+S and SSE Power Distribution are trading names of the Scottish and Southern Energy Group. **
Re: Backup time taking too high ... how to solve
Raju - In http://people.bu.edu/rbs/Infoprint.QuickFacts see topic Backup performance for a list of the common issues we have all faced in optimizing backups. Your database growth suggests a lot of elevated client file activity, which is a good place for you to focus attention, as you can observe from backup summaries in your Activity Log and accounting records. Perhaps some new projects or data loading is occurring in some clients. Richard Sims On Mar 9, 2005, at 8:31 PM, Raju Gv wrote: Hi All, To day the backup time for 180 GB is taking more time for us. Normally it will take around 2hrs 15 mnts. If i see in q actlog, one attention message is appearing like === more than 1mb of database changes use backup db to provide for database recovery ... = The above message is coming in the log. Also, the q session output is showing bytes sent as 149k and bytes received as 68k Please guide me in this matter immediately, as some more schedules are getting delayed. Regards G V Raju InterScan_Disclaimer.txt
TDP for Lotus Notes
Hi to all I am using TDP for Lotus Notes 5.1.5 and i am executing Incremental backups on a daily basis. I have suggested to the Lotus Domino Administrator to enable the Transaction Log feature on the lotus domino server. What is the recommended way for backing up the domino databases and the transaction log via TDP for Lotus Notes? Thanks in advance Nicolas Savva
Re: Retrieves failing on files with future archive attributes
On Mar 9, 2005, at 9:05 PM, Andrew Ferris wrote: Thanks Andy. I'll talk to support but I'm still curious about if TSM looks at the archive attribute at all. TSM has historically not used the Archive Attribute in Windows to evaluate the backup candidacy of a file. See the client manual doc of the Resetarchiveattribute option. Richard Sims
Re: Volume sequence
On Mar 9, 2005, at 9:51 PM, Norita binti Hassan wrote: I've tried that script, but I need to know the file sequence. Eg. I have a large database of 170GB.It should occupied more than 1 tape. How do I know which tape is the first one, and which is next . There is no sequence numbering of filespace volumes: there doesn't need to be, as restorals may be for individual files or directories which may be on various tapes. TSM catalogs the location of aggregates of files on their containing tapes: it knows where to get files when it needs them. For your purposes, once you know the volumes associated with a node (volumeusage info) then you can simply sort by Last Write Date. But, again, such sequencing is artificial and of no real value. Richard Sims
IBM tape history
The young folks on the List, who weren't around in the 1950s, may find it interesting to read of IBM's development of tape technology, and a thumbnail history of their tape products: Fifty years of IBM innovation with information storage on magnetic tape http://www.research.ibm.com/journal/rd/474/bradshaw.html http://www.research.ibm.com/journal/rd/474/bradshaw.pdf
Re: IBM tape history
Very nice, thanks a lot Richard, René LAMBELET NESTEC SA GLOBE - Global Business Excellence GC-Central Support Center SD-IT Av. Nestlé 55 CH-1800 Vevey (Switzerland) tél +41 (0)21 924'35'43 fax +41 (0)21 703'30'17 local BUS-10 119 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This e-mail message is confidential and for the use of the intended recipient(s) only. Unauthorized use or treatment of all or part of this message is strictly prohibited. Unintended recipients: please notify the sender and delete the original message, any attachments and any copies from your computer and back-up system immediately. Thank you. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Richard Sims Sent: Thursday,10. March 2005 14:51 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: IBM tape history The young folks on the List, who weren't around in the 1950s, may find it interesting to read of IBM's development of tape technology, and a thumbnail history of their tape products: Fifty years of IBM innovation with information storage on magnetic tape http://www.research.ibm.com/journal/rd/474/bradshaw.html http://www.research.ibm.com/journal/rd/474/bradshaw.pdf
Re: TDP for Lotus Notes
Nicolas, The latest version of Data Protection for Lotus Domino available is 5.3.0. The User's Guide is a good source for understanding the strategies that one should use when backing up Domino databases and transaction logs in a transaction log enabled environment. Here is a front-end link to the IBM Tivoli Storage Manager Books. Look for IBM Tivoli Storage Manager for Mail: http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/tivihelp/index.jsp Also... here is a Redbook that also has some very good information: http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg245247.html?Open Here is a good article that explains Domino transaction logging: http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=0q=7003543uid=swg27003543 Thanks, Del ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 03/10/2005 07:17:05 AM: Hi to all I am using TDP for Lotus Notes 5.1.5 and i am executing Incremental backups on a daily basis. I have suggested to the Lotus Domino Administrator to enable the Transaction Log feature on the lotus domino server. What is the recommended way for backing up the domino databases and the transaction log via TDP for Lotus Notes? Thanks in advance Nicolas Savva
Re: Problems with TSM and tapes
Interesting. (I'll leave aside the issue of how TSM should deal with this error and whether it should try another tape to continue your backup.) We also started seeing this same error message a few weeks ago - I'm calling it the 'double end-of-volume' problem because the root issue seems to be the 'already reached EOV once' message. We're at TSM 5.2.3.0 on AIX, so the offsets and line numbers differ from your symptoms, but it's precisely the same error. In our case, the error occurred about 10 times over the course of 2 weeks, *always* on the same tape drive. Since TSM marks the tapes in error status, this was becoming a problem, so I've set that drive offline to TSM. Poof, no new errors. We've got a 3584 library with LTO-2 drives; in November, I updated the firmware for both to then-current levels of 47Q0 for the drives and 4390 for the library (although I see 4680 came out for the library on 2/22/05). In working on this 'double end-of-volume' problem, I decided it would be worth udating to the latest version of Atape as well, so I did - we're now at 9.1.6.0. I see that there's a 9.2.6.0 out there now (although the associated change history file doesn't even mention it??). I'll probably upgrade again to these latest levels, but I was wondering... Has anyone else seen these double EOV messages? I've got an open problem with IBM hardware support, but none of the double EOV errors showed up in any of the hardware diagnostics, and there are no Atape dumps associated with these errors. I find it awfully suspicious that these errors all occur on the same drive. Our tape system is getting to be troublesome - these problems started in the midst of another (unrelated??) series of problems discussed here a few weeks ago under the subject 'LTO2 corrupted index question'. Anyone else getting such grief from their 358x tape system?? Thanks, Bill Bill Kelly Auburn University OIT On Thu, 10 Mar 2005, John E. Vincent wrote: Recently we've started seeing these messages pop up when we try to run our nightly db2 backup: 03/10/2005 02:24:25 ANR8337I LTO volume 02L2 mounted in drive DRIVE0 AM(/dev/IBMtape0). 03/10/2005 02:33:49 ANR8341I End-of-volume reached for LTO volume 02L2. AM 03/10/2005 02:33:51 ANRD pvrntp.c(2541): ThreadId18 NtpOpFlush error on AMdrive DRIVE0 (/dev/IBMtape0); already reached EOV once. Callchain of previous message: 0x08793053 outDiagf+0x203 - 0x08857b37 NtpFlush+0x1d7 - 0x0885793e NtpWrite+0x 50e - 0x08867533 LtoWrite+0x83 - 0x084c7c5f AgentThread+0x93f - 0x0809c53f StartThread+0x8f - 0xb759bdac *UNKNOWN* - 0xb7537a8a *UNKNOWN* - 03/10/2005 02:33:51 ANR1411W Access mode for volume 02L2 now set to AMread-only due to write error. We're running TSM Version 5, Release 2, Level 2.0 on RHEL 3.0 and DB2 is running DB2 8.1FP4. Thanks for any help! John E. Vincent
Changing a dir to a file system???
Hi all TSM Server 5.1.6.2 on Solaris backing up a 5.1.6.0 Solaris Client. This weekend we are making changes to one of our clients that we back up. At the moment one of the directories is as follows:- /app/production where /app is the file system and production is just a directory beneath it. On Sat we are going to create a whole new file system called /app/production ( so we'll rename the old /production directory ( to something like production_old if you are interested), move the data to the new file system and mount it as /app/production ). So my question is, how will this effect the backup? Will it back all the data up again or will it just update them in some way. We only do incremental backups. For your info we are going to use a tar/untar approach so that effectively the files them themselves will not have changed at all, it's just that they will be on their own file system. I hope this question makes sense. Many thanks Farren Minns Solaris System Admin / Oracle DBA IT - Hosting Services John Wiley Sons, Ltd. The Atrium, Southern Gate, Chichester, West Sussex PO19 8SQ ## The information contained in this e-mail and any subsequent correspondence is private and confidential and intended solely for the named recipient(s). If you are not a named recipient, you must not copy, distribute, or disseminate the information, open any attachment, or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received the e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete the e-mail. Any views or opinions expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, unless otherwise stated. Although this e-mail has been scanned for viruses you should rely on your own virus check, as the sender accepts no liability for any damage arising out of any bug or virus infection. ##
Re: Volume sequence
The undocumented, but well known, show volumeusage node_name lists the volumes in the order they were assigned to the client. At 10:51 AM 3/10/2005 +0800, you wrote: I've tried that script, but I need to know the file sequence. Eg. I have a large database of 170GB.It should occupied more than 1 tape. How do I know which tape is the first one, and which is next . ~Norita Hasan~ -Original Message- From: goc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 8:53 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Volume sequence you can try this ... it givec a lot more and it's useful i think select vu.node_name,vo.status,vu.copy_type,vo.est_capacity_mb,vo.pct_utilized,vo.vo lume_name - from volumeusage vu,volumes vo - where vo.volume_name=vu.volume_name - group by vu.node_name,vo.status,vu.copy_type,vo.est_capacity_mb,vo.pct_utilized,vo.vo lume_name - order by vo.volume_name, - vu.node_name,vu.copy_type,vo.pct_utilized - Original Message - From: Norita binti Hassan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 11:51 AM Subject: Volume sequence Hi, Is there any select statement that can display the volume sequence number so that I can list all the volumes in sequence that has been used by specific node. NORITA BINTI HASAN Senior Programmer Enterprise Systems Services Information Communication Tech.Div 6th Floor, Pos Malaysia Berhad 50670 Kuala Lumpur Tel : 03 - 22756638 Pos Malaysia Berhad is Malaysia's national postal company Visit us online at www.pos.com.my NOTICE This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the addressee or authorised to receive this email, you must not use, copy, disclose or take any action based on this email. If you have received this email in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Pos Malaysia Berhad takes no responsibility for the contents of this email. Pos Malaysia Berhad is Malaysia's national postal company Visit us online at www.pos.com.my NOTICE This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the addressee or authorised to receive this email, you must not use, copy, disclose or take any action based on this email. If you have received this email in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Pos Malaysia Berhad takes no responsibility for the contents of this email. Fred Johanson ITSM Administrator University of Chicago 773-702-8464
If we all complain, do you think they will add the WEB gui back?
I realise there are other threads about this issue but for those of you who don't know yet, the WEB GUI interface into the TSM server is officially gone as of version 5.3. It's been replaced by something called the Integrated Solutions Console (ISC) which, in my opinion (and many others) is almost useless. Do you think if we all contact our IBM reps, they could possibly add the WEB GUI back into the product? I know it's a long shot but I imagine if enough of us say something, they might actually listen. Personally I am more of a command line person anyways but for our Help Desk people and other casual users, it's a whole new learning curve. Thoughts? John
NDMP Restore of folder + data
Hello All! We are testing NDMP restores of our EMC datamover on our TSM AIX 5.2.2.5 server and when going to the backup/archive client on a windows server and bringing up the restore for the following: The /STOREMGT folder was selected and all of the files have been selected to be restored within the folder. I click the restore button and choose the latest backup version to be restored to it's original location, but when the restore is finished it has only restored the folder and it's subdirectories with no files. Would anyone happen to know what I am doing incorrectly? Thank you in advance! Joni Moyer Highmark Storage Systems Work:(717)302-6603 Fax:(717)302-5974 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Changing a dir to a file system???
On Mar 10, 2005, at 9:22 AM, Farren Minns wrote: ...So my question is, how will this effect the backup? Will it back all the data up again or will it just update them in some way. We only do incremental backups. ... A new file system results in a fresh filespace on the TSM server. TSM has not seen this file system before, so it will be a full backup. Richard Sims
Re: If we all complain, do you think they will add the WEB gui back?
- Original Message - From: John C Dury [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 3:52 PM Subject: If we all complain, do you think they will add the WEB gui back? I realise there are other threads about this issue but for those of you who don't know yet, the WEB GUI interface into the TSM server is officially gone as of version 5.3. It's been replaced by something called the Integrated Solutions Console (ISC) which, in my opinion (and many others) is almost useless. Do you think if we all contact our IBM reps, they could possibly add the WEB GUI back into the product? I know it's a long shot but I imagine if enough of us say something, they might actually listen. Personally I am more of a command line person anyways but for our Help Desk people and other casual users, it's a whole new learning curve. Thoughts? John i agree with you, but my opinion is that ibm has taken this new road and there is no chance to get old web gui back sadly
AW: If we all complain, do you think they will add the WEB gui back?
I think if we ALL complain IBM will listen. Someone mentioned that the Web GUI is still in the code base - so it should be easy for IBM to reactivate it in 5.3.0.1 (or whatever version). IBM should give us more time to move our users/operators to this new interface! Is anyone willing to start a survey? Thomas Rupp -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von John C Dury Gesendet: Donnerstag, 10. März 2005 15:53 An: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Betreff: If we all complain, do you think they will add the WEB gui back? I realise there are other threads about this issue but for those of you who don't know yet, the WEB GUI interface into the TSM server is officially gone as of version 5.3. It's been replaced by something called the Integrated Solutions Console (ISC) which, in my opinion (and many others) is almost useless. Do you think if we all contact our IBM reps, they could possibly add the WEB GUI back into the product? I know it's a long shot but I imagine if enough of us say something, they might actually listen. Personally I am more of a command line person anyways but for our Help Desk people and other casual users, it's a whole new learning curve. Thoughts? John
If we all complain, do you think they will add the WEB gui back?
I realise there are other threads about this issue but for those of you who don't know yet, the WEB GUI interface into the TSM server is officially gone as of version 5.3. It's been replaced by something called the Integrated Solutions Console (ISC) which, in my opinion (and many others) is almost useless. Do you think if we all contact our IBM reps, they could possibly add the WEB GUI back into the product? I know it's a long shot but I imagine if enough of us say something, they might actually listen. Personally I am more of a command line person anyways but for our Help Desk people and other casual users, it's a whole new learning curve. At one of my past jobs there were a number of infrastructure initiatives that delivered poor service after enormous sums of money were spent. The managers' defense of those initiatives sounded remarkably like IBM's defense of the ISC. My sense is that senior IBM people have already put so much of their prestiege and credability on the line backing the ISC that they cannot afford to admit that it is a failure. They might agree to bringing back the old Web interface temporarily as a way of supporting a phased transition to the new interface. I don't think they would ever agree to bring the old interface back permanently.
Help required on JBB
I've been implementing Journal Based Backups for the first time using the 5.3 Windows client and thought I'd share some of my experiences and issues. According to the Problem Determination Guide, there is a tool called DBViewB.EXE for testing the validity of a filesystem journal database file. The corresponding tool for v5.1 and v5.2 was called DBView.EXE and was available as part of an unsupported download called JBBTools.zip. A link to this is included in the TSM Journal Based Backup FAQ (IBM document reference 1155524). However the database structure has changed in 5.3 and the old tools no longer work. Does anybody know where I can find a copy of DBViewB.EXE as this information seems to have been omitted from the Problem Determination Guide? I haven't had a chance to revise the KB article for 5.3 nor has the new database viewing utility been placed on the external Tivoli ftp site. Send me a note and I will send you the new utility directly (I don't think I can post an exe to the list...). Hopefully eventually the functionality of this utility will be integrated into the client as a documented command. Sorry for the inconvenience While I'm on the subject of the change to the database structure in 5.3, the new journal files have a '.jbbdb' extension, but these files are not part of the default list of files to be excluded from the journaling in TSMJBBD.INI. However the old journal database files are excluded. Surely this is an omission? Good point. Yes, it was definitely an omission, the new db files should have been added to the exclude list in the sample config file. I'll make sure that they are added in the first ptf. Finally, the NLSREPOS entry in the TSMJBBD.INI file defaults to DSCAMENG.TXT. This causes a warning if you try to run the Journal Service as a foreground process (TSMJBBD.EXE i) as this file does not exist in the BAClient directory. I was under the impression that DSCAMENG.TXT had been superseded since v5.2 by DSMENU.TXT and that the existence of DSMAMENG.TXT in the API directory was only for backward compatibility. Another good point although I will make the obligatory statement that running the journal daemon in the foreground isn't officially supported (although I do it all the time). By the way, just curious, but do find it useful running in the foreground, and if so, why ? The call which loads the older message repository was never removed from the journal daemon process initialization and I guess nobody notice because most people apparently don't pay attention to the foreground messages (I never did before reading your note...). Anyway, I will remove this. I'll try logging a call with IBM Support but wondered if anybody had similar experiences You can have them open a doc apar for the first issue if you like (db files missing from the sample config file) and will have to trust me to fix the second one (can't really open an apar on it because running in the foreground isn't officially supported). Don't get me wrong, I think JBB is excellent. I've managed to reduce the daily backup of a file system containing 5.6 million files from 9 hours to 8 seconds! Thanks, I appreciate the positive feedback. We did a lot to enhance and improve JBB in 5.3, and hopefully there are improvements to come in future releases. Pete Tanenhaus Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tieline: 320.8778, external: 607.754.4213 Those who refuse to challenge authority are condemned to conform to it -- Forwarded by Pete Tanenhaus/San Jose/IBM on 03/10/2005 10:17 AM --- Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Sent by:ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc: Subject:Help required on JBB I've been implementing Journal Based Backups for the first time using the 5.3 Windows client and thought I'd share some of my experiences and issues. According to the Problem Determination Guide, there is a tool called DBViewB.EXE for testing the validity of a filesystem journal database file. The corresponding tool for v5.1 and v5.2 was called DBView.EXE and was available as part of an unsupported download called JBBTools.zip. A link to this is included in the TSM Journal Based Backup FAQ (IBM document reference 1155524). However the database structure has changed in 5.3 and the old tools no longer work. Does anybody know where I can find a copy of DBViewB.EXE as this information seems to have been omitted from the Problem Determination Guide? While I'm on the subject of the change to the database structure in 5.3, the new journal files have a '.jbbdb' extension, but these files are not part of the default list of files to be excluded from the journaling in TSMJBBD.INI. However the old journal database files are excluded. Surely this is an omission? Finally, the NLSREPOS entry in the TSMJBBD.INI file defaults to
Speaking of the ISC
Since I am trying to live with it Has anyone figured out how to do something as simple as an EXPORT NODE to SERVER ? I can't find it where I would have expected it to be (if it is even in there ??).
Re: If we all complain, do you think they will add the WEB gui back?
When this was discussed earlier, someone (sorry I don't remember who it was) made a very reasonable suggestion: Support the web gui AS IS, without enhancements, during a transition period while people adjust to the new ISC and get the kinks worked out. I think a survey would be a good idea (sorry I have no facilities to start one). It's also a good idea to complain through other channels than just here; the good folks who monitor here can only do so much. If your site still has an IBM rep, ask them who to complain to in order to get results. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Denier Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 10:24 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: If we all complain, do you think they will add the WEB gui back? I realise there are other threads about this issue but for those of you who don't know yet, the WEB GUI interface into the TSM server is officially gone as of version 5.3. It's been replaced by something called the Integrated Solutions Console (ISC) which, in my opinion (and many others) is almost useless. Do you think if we all contact our IBM reps, they could possibly add the WEB GUI back into the product? I know it's a long shot but I imagine if enough of us say something, they might actually listen. Personally I am more of a command line person anyways but for our Help Desk people and other casual users, it's a whole new learning curve. At one of my past jobs there were a number of infrastructure initiatives that delivered poor service after enormous sums of money were spent. The managers' defense of those initiatives sounded remarkably like IBM's defense of the ISC. My sense is that senior IBM people have already put so much of their prestiege and credability on the line backing the ISC that they cannot afford to admit that it is a failure. They might agree to bringing back the old Web interface temporarily as a way of supporting a phased transition to the new interface. I don't think they would ever agree to bring the old interface back permanently.
Re: Speaking of the ISC
Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU wrote: Since I am trying to live with it Has anyone figured out how to do something as simple as an EXPORT NODE to SERVER ? I can't find it where I would have expected it to be (if it is even in there ??). export node node_name[,nodename ] tos=otherserver filed=whatever It is the second half of 'help export node' you clould even limit the filespaces to export... -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Remco Post SARA - Reken- en Netwerkdiensten http://www.sara.nl High Performance Computing Tel. +31 20 592 3000Fax. +31 20 668 3167 I really didn't foresee the Internet. But then, neither did the computer industry. Not that that tells us very much of course - the computer industry didn't even foresee that the century was going to end. -- Douglas Adams
tape mount problem
Hi, While I am trying to restore database, tape stuck in the tape drive and later I unloaded tape and kept in some slot in the library. Now when I am trying to restore its updating tape to unavailable and restore fails. I am thinking TSM lost address of tape after I placed tape manually in the slot. Is there any way I can find tape original slot in the library. Can some help how I am going to fix this problem. thanks muthyam This electronic mail transmission contains information from Joy Mining Machinery which is confidential, and is intended only for the use of the proper addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately at the return address on this transmission, or by telephone at (724) 779-4500, and delete this message and any attachments from your system. Unauthorized use, copying, disclosing, distributing, or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this transmission is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. privacy
Re: If we all complain, do you think they will add the WEB gui back?
Hey, I'm not going to let the WEB GUI go towards the light without a fight, at least until they get the ISC interface working better. I'm pretty sure that ISC actually stands for Incomprehensibly Strange Cryptic ;-) I just sent an email to my IBM rep basically saying please put the old WEB GUI back into place until you resolve the serious bugs and usability deficiencies in the new ISC product. I also added in the excellent specifics that Paul Fielding posted to the listsrv about a week ago. (thanks Paul). I can at least say I tried. Thanks, Ben -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Prather, Wanda Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 9:41 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: If we all complain, do you think they will add the WEB gui back? When this was discussed earlier, someone (sorry I don't remember who it was) made a very reasonable suggestion: Support the web gui AS IS, without enhancements, during a transition period while people adjust to the new ISC and get the kinks worked out. I think a survey would be a good idea (sorry I have no facilities to start one). It's also a good idea to complain through other channels than just here; the good folks who monitor here can only do so much. If your site still has an IBM rep, ask them who to complain to in order to get results. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Denier Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 10:24 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: If we all complain, do you think they will add the WEB gui back? I realise there are other threads about this issue but for those of you who don't know yet, the WEB GUI interface into the TSM server is officially gone as of version 5.3. It's been replaced by something called the Integrated Solutions Console (ISC) which, in my opinion (and many others) is almost useless. Do you think if we all contact our IBM reps, they could possibly add the WEB GUI back into the product? I know it's a long shot but I imagine if enough of us say something, they might actually listen. Personally I am more of a command line person anyways but for our Help Desk people and other casual users, it's a whole new learning curve. At one of my past jobs there were a number of infrastructure initiatives that delivered poor service after enormous sums of money were spent. The managers' defense of those initiatives sounded remarkably like IBM's defense of the ISC. My sense is that senior IBM people have already put so much of their prestiege and credability on the line backing the ISC that they cannot afford to admit that it is a failure. They might agree to bringing back the old Web interface temporarily as a way of supporting a phased transition to the new interface. I don't think they would ever agree to bring the old interface back permanently.
Re: tape mount problem
Yes, that is not surprising. Whenever you move a tape or place it in a slot yourself, you should run a TSM AUDIT LIBRARY command. That tells TSM to rescan the library and update the info about which tape is in each slot. Run the AUDIT LIBRARY from the admin command line, or from the web GUI. The syntax may be slightly different depending on the type of library your have. (When posting info to this list, PLEASE INCLUDE your TSM server platform, version #, and type of tape library. You'll get better answers that way!) AUDIT LIBRARY libname CHECKLABEL=BARCODE The AUDIT LIBRARY will not run if there are other tape operations in progress (like migration or reclaim). Wanda Prather I/O, I/O, It's all about I/O -(me) -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Muthyam Reddy Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 12:07 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: tape mount problem Hi, While I am trying to restore database, tape stuck in the tape drive and later I unloaded tape and kept in some slot in the library. Now when I am trying to restore its updating tape to unavailable and restore fails. I am thinking TSM lost address of tape after I placed tape manually in the slot. Is there any way I can find tape original slot in the library. Can some help how I am going to fix this problem. thanks muthyam This electronic mail transmission contains information from Joy Mining Machinery which is confidential, and is intended only for the use of the proper addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately at the return address on this transmission, or by telephone at (724) 779-4500, and delete this message and any attachments from your system. Unauthorized use, copying, disclosing, distributing, or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this transmission is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. privacy
Re: Speaking of the ISC
If you select Policy Domains and Client Nodes, then drill your way down to the nodes list, you can select a node, then select Export Client Node... from the action drop-down list. You are limited, however, to exporting one node at a time, as you cannot select multiple nodes. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 2005-03-10 08:38:53: Since I am trying to live with it Has anyone figured out how to do something as simple as an EXPORT NODE to SERVER ? I can't find it where I would have expected it to be (if it is even in there ??).
Re: Speaking of the ISC
That is not what I meant. I know how to use EXPORT. I mean, how to do the EXPORT using the ISC ! Remco Post [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 03/10/2005 12:04 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU To ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: [ADSM-L] Speaking of the ISC Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU wrote: Since I am trying to live with it Has anyone figured out how to do something as simple as an EXPORT NODE to SERVER ? I can't find it where I would have expected it to be (if it is even in there ??). export node node_name[,nodename ] tos=otherserver filed=whatever It is the second half of 'help export node' you clould even limit the filespaces to export... -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Remco Post SARA - Reken- en Netwerkdiensten http://www.sara.nl High Performance Computing Tel. +31 20 592 3000Fax. +31 20 668 3167 I really didn't foresee the Internet. But then, neither did the computer industry. Not that that tells us very much of course - the computer industry didn't even foresee that the century was going to end. -- Douglas Adams
Re: Speaking of the ISC
Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU wrote: That is not what I meant. I know how to use EXPORT. I mean, how to do the EXPORT using the ISC ! I now know what you mean. New question, why would anyone who knows how to use the cli want to do anything in ISC? Remco Post [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 03/10/2005 12:04 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU To ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: [ADSM-L] Speaking of the ISC Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU wrote: Since I am trying to live with it Has anyone figured out how to do something as simple as an EXPORT NODE to SERVER ? I can't find it where I would have expected it to be (if it is even in there ??). export node node_name[,nodename ] tos=otherserver filed=whatever It is the second half of 'help export node' you clould even limit the filespaces to export... -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Remco Post SARA - Reken- en Netwerkdiensten http://www.sara.nl High Performance Computing Tel. +31 20 592 3000Fax. +31 20 668 3167 I really didn't foresee the Internet. But then, neither did the computer industry. Not that that tells us very much of course - the computer industry didn't even foresee that the century was going to end. -- Douglas Adams -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Remco Post SARA - Reken- en Netwerkdiensten http://www.sara.nl High Performance Computing Tel. +31 20 592 3000Fax. +31 20 668 3167 I really didn't foresee the Internet. But then, neither did the computer industry. Not that that tells us very much of course - the computer industry didn't even foresee that the century was going to end. -- Douglas Adams
Re: tape mount problem
Thanks for your quick response. Is there any way we can find original place where it was. Yes I know auditing going to fix all these problems but its time consuming. Karl, When I use 'q libvol' it does not element address and also in volhsit file. When I used robot backside panel to check volume location..it show nothing. Tape is in the library. thanks again. muthyam [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/10/2005 12:29:44 PM Yes, that is not surprising. Whenever you move a tape or place it in a slot yourself, you should run a TSM AUDIT LIBRARY command. That tells TSM to rescan the library and update the info about which tape is in each slot. Run the AUDIT LIBRARY from the admin command line, or from the web GUI. The syntax may be slightly different depending on the type of library your have. (When posting info to this list, PLEASE INCLUDE your TSM server platform, version #, and type of tape library. You'll get better answers that way!) AUDIT LIBRARY libname CHECKLABEL=BARCODE The AUDIT LIBRARY will not run if there are other tape operations in progress (like migration or reclaim). Wanda Prather I/O, I/O, It's all about I/O -(me) -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Muthyam Reddy Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 12:07 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: tape mount problem Hi, While I am trying to restore database, tape stuck in the tape drive and later I unloaded tape and kept in some slot in the library. Now when I am trying to restore its updating tape to unavailable and restore fails. I am thinking TSM lost address of tape after I placed tape manually in the slot. Is there any way I can find tape original slot in the library. Can some help how I am going to fix this problem. thanks muthyam This electronic mail transmission contains information from Joy Mining Machinery which is confidential, and is intended only for the use of the proper addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately at the return address on this transmission, or by telephone at (724) 779-4500, and delete this message and any attachments from your system. Unauthorized use, copying, disclosing, distributing, or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this transmission is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. privacy
Re: tape mount problem
Do a q libvol and that should show where TSM thinks that tape is. Also could probably do q actlog for time period when you tried restore and messages probably will indicate where TSM is trying to get tape from. David B. Longo System Administrator Health First, Inc. 3300 Fiske Blvd. Rockledge, FL 32955-4305 PH 321.434.5536 Pager 321.634.8230 Fax:321.434.5509 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/10/2005 12:44:32 PM Thanks for your quick response. Is there any way we can find original place where it was. Yes I know auditing going to fix all these problems but its time consuming. Karl, When I use 'q libvol' it does not element address and also in volhsit file. When I used robot backside panel to check volume location..it show nothing. Tape is in the library. thanks again. muthyam [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/10/2005 12:29:44 PM Yes, that is not surprising. Whenever you move a tape or place it in a slot yourself, you should run a TSM AUDIT LIBRARY command. That tells TSM to rescan the library and update the info about which tape is in each slot. Run the AUDIT LIBRARY from the admin command line, or from the web GUI. The syntax may be slightly different depending on the type of library your have. (When posting info to this list, PLEASE INCLUDE your TSM server platform, version #, and type of tape library. You'll get better answers that way!) AUDIT LIBRARY libname CHECKLABEL=BARCODE The AUDIT LIBRARY will not run if there are other tape operations in progress (like migration or reclaim). Wanda Prather I/O, I/O, It's all about I/O -(me) -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Muthyam Reddy Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 12:07 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: tape mount problem Hi, While I am trying to restore database, tape stuck in the tape drive and later I unloaded tape and kept in some slot in the library. Now when I am trying to restore its updating tape to unavailable and restore fails. I am thinking TSM lost address of tape after I placed tape manually in the slot. Is there any way I can find tape original slot in the library. Can some help how I am going to fix this problem. thanks muthyam This electronic mail transmission contains information from Joy Mining Machinery which is confidential, and is intended only for the use of the proper addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately at the return address on this transmission, or by telephone at (724) 779-4500, and delete this message and any attachments from your system. Unauthorized use, copying, disclosing, distributing, or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this transmission is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. privacy ## This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary, or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it, and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. Health First reserves the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views or opinions expressed in this message are solely those of the individual sender, except (1) where the message states such views or opinions are on behalf of a particular entity; and (2) the sender is authorized by the entity to give such views or opinions. ##
Re: Speaking of the ISC
I need just a little bit more info. I clicked on Policy Domains and Client Nodes. Then selected Search for Client Node Then checked Name and put * in the search value and Update Table. But at this point, I do not see an Export anything in either this pulldown or the one that comes with the list of nodes ? If I select the node (click on the Name), I then get Properties but no option to Export ? What am I missing ? BTW, FWIW, I am using the default ISCADMIN id since I can not figure out how to setup a different ID that has full authority over the ISC ! Andrew Raibeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 03/10/2005 12:34 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU To ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: [ADSM-L] Speaking of the ISC If you select Policy Domains and Client Nodes, then drill your way down to the nodes list, you can select a node, then select Export Client Node... from the action drop-down list. You are limited, however, to exporting one node at a time, as you cannot select multiple nodes. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 2005-03-10 08:38:53: Since I am trying to live with it Has anyone figured out how to do something as simple as an EXPORT NODE to SERVER ? I can't find it where I would have expected it to be (if it is even in there ??).
Re: Speaking of the ISC
Because this is a GUI society and my operations staff could never use a CL ! If I am to show someone how to use it, I need to know how to use it ! Remco Post [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 03/10/2005 12:38 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU To ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: [ADSM-L] Speaking of the ISC Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU wrote: That is not what I meant. I know how to use EXPORT. I mean, how to do the EXPORT using the ISC ! I now know what you mean. New question, why would anyone who knows how to use the cli want to do anything in ISC? Remco Post [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 03/10/2005 12:04 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU To ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: [ADSM-L] Speaking of the ISC Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU wrote: Since I am trying to live with it Has anyone figured out how to do something as simple as an EXPORT NODE to SERVER ? I can't find it where I would have expected it to be (if it is even in there ??). export node node_name[,nodename ] tos=otherserver filed=whatever It is the second half of 'help export node' you clould even limit the filespaces to export... -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Remco Post SARA - Reken- en Netwerkdiensten http://www.sara.nl High Performance Computing Tel. +31 20 592 3000Fax. +31 20 668 3167 I really didn't foresee the Internet. But then, neither did the computer industry. Not that that tells us very much of course - the computer industry didn't even foresee that the century was going to end. -- Douglas Adams -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Remco Post SARA - Reken- en Netwerkdiensten http://www.sara.nl High Performance Computing Tel. +31 20 592 3000Fax. +31 20 668 3167 I really didn't foresee the Internet. But then, neither did the computer industry. Not that that tells us very much of course - the computer industry didn't even foresee that the century was going to end. -- Douglas Adams
Re: Speaking of the ISC
I clicked on Policy Domains and Client Nodes. Next, click on the server name to which the node belongs, which will yield a list of policy domains. Click on the policy domain to which the node belongs. Then you'll see a section below titled domainname Properties (domainname is the domain you clicked on). In this section you'll see several twisties (arrows), one of which reads Client Nodes. Click on the Client Nodes arrow, which will then show you the nodes defined to that domain. Click on the little circle to the left of the desired node name. Then in the --- Select Action --- drop-down list, select Export Client Node..., then click the Go button. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 2005-03-10 10:52:15: I need just a little bit more info. I clicked on Policy Domains and Client Nodes. Then selected Search for Client Node Then checked Name and put * in the search value and Update Table. But at this point, I do not see an Export anything in either this pulldown or the one that comes with the list of nodes ? If I select the node (click on the Name), I then get Properties but no option to Export ? What am I missing ? BTW, FWIW, I am using the default ISCADMIN id since I can not figure out how to setup a different ID that has full authority over the ISC ! Andrew Raibeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 03/10/2005 12:34 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU To ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: [ADSM-L] Speaking of the ISC If you select Policy Domains and Client Nodes, then drill your way down to the nodes list, you can select a node, then select Export Client Node... from the action drop-down list. You are limited, however, to exporting one node at a time, as you cannot select multiple nodes. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 2005-03-10 08:38:53: Since I am trying to live with it Has anyone figured out how to do something as simple as an EXPORT NODE to SERVER ? I can't find it where I would have expected it to be (if it is even in there ??).
Re: Retrieves failing on files with future archive attributes
Thank you Richard. I'm sorry if it wasn't clear before but this is a slightly odd scenario where data on NetWare clustered volumes will not get retrieved correctly after an archive. The files that fail all seem to have an odd archive attribute (not due to TSM). I was just interested in some background info on archives as the NetWare client manual is terser than the Windows client. Andrew Ferris Network Support Analyst iCAPTURE Research Centre University of British Columbia [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/10/2005 4:57:27 AM On Mar 9, 2005, at 9:05 PM, Andrew Ferris wrote: Thanks Andy. I'll talk to support but I'm still curious about if TSM looks at the archive attribute at all. TSM has historically not used the Archive Attribute in Windows to evaluate the backup candidacy of a file. See the client manual doc of the Resetarchiveattribute option. Richard Sims
Fw: disaster recovery drill: emergency!!!
Hi Joni How did your disaster recovery drill go? Maybe you are recovering(getting rest)for couple of days. Sung Y. Lee - Forwarded by Sung Y Lee/Austin/IBM on 03/10/2005 01:05 PM - ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 03/08/2005 03:35:13 PM: Let us know how everything works out! I get to re-confirm my process next week. Tom Kauffman NIBCO, Inc -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joni Moyer Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 9:31 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: disaster recovery drill: emergency!!! Hi Tom, Thanks very much! I'm going to try it tomorrow morning at disaster recovery. : ) Joni Moyer Highmark Storage Systems Work:(717)302-6603 Fax:(717)302-5974 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kauffman, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] COM To Sent by: ADSM: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Dist Stor cc Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject .EDU Re: disaster recovery drill: emergency!!! 03/07/2005 05:37 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] .EDU All I can say is -- this works. TSM 5.1.6.3, actual library is a 3584 with 10 drives (becomes a 3584 with 6 drives at our hot-site, per contract) We've run this config for three successful recoveries. (And we may not even need the path definition for the library, but it doesn't seem to hurt). Tom Kauffman NIBCO, Inc -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joni Moyer Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 5:21 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: disaster recovery drill: emergency!!! Hi Tom, I'm just wondering how you have a manual library and then have a path with desttype=library instead of desttype=drive? And also, can I just update my lto2_offsite device class to point to my drlib manual library definition since that is what will be asking for the tape mounts? Thanks again! Joni Moyer Highmark Storage Systems Work:(717)302-6603 Fax:(717)302-5974 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kauffman, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] COM To Sent by: ADSM: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Dist Stor cc Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject .EDU Re: disaster recovery drill: emergency!!! 03/07/2005 05:09 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] .EDU Your 'define drive' commands need to reference the library they're in; FWIW, here's mine: DEFINE DEVCLASS NIBLTO DEVTYPE=LTO FORMAT=DRIVE MOUNTLIMIT=DRIVES MOUNTWAIT=60 MOUNTRETENTION=60 PREFIX=ADSM LIBRARY=ALEX SET SERVERNAME ADSM DEFINE LIBRARY ALEX LIBTYPE=MANUAL DEFINE DRIVE ALEX DRIVE_01 ONLINE=Yes DEFINE PATH ADSM ALEX SRCTYPE=SERVER DESTTYPE=LIBRARY ONLINE=YES DEFINE PATH ADSM DRIVE_01 SRCTYPE=SERVER DESTTYPE=DRIVE LIBRARY=ALEX DEVICE=/dev/rmtX ONLINE=YES And the 'define path' for the drive is all one line. I've actually got this set up as my D/R device config file that I load from floppy just before the database restore. Saves editing on-site. Tom Kauffman NIBCO, Inc -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joni Moyer Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 4:53 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: disaster recovery drill: emergency!!! Hi Tom, Gotcha! So I guess my devconfig file could look like this. And then when it's up and it has restored the TSM server it will have the identical definitions as I have at home and then I will just define more manual drives, the paths to the drives and move from there? If I leave the other definitions there after the TSM DB restore, will conflicts occur? Thank you again! DEFINE DEVCLASS DR_LTO2 DEVTYPE=LTO FORMAT=ULTRIUM2C ESTCAPACITY=209715200K MOUNTLIMIT=DRIVES MOUNTWAIT=60 MOUNTRETENTION=5 PREFIX=ADSM LIBRARY=DRLIB DEFINE DEVCLASS NASDEV DEVTYPE=NAS FORMAT=DRIVE ESTCAPACITY=209715200K MOUNTLIMIT=DRIVES MOUNTWAIT=180 MOUNTRETENTION=0 PREFIX=ADSM LIBRARY=DRLIB SET SERVERNAME TSMPROD SET SERVERPASSWORD 1829fecd5fecda74 DEFINE LIBRARY DRLIB LIBTYPE=MANUAL DEFINE DRIVE LTO1 DEFINE DRIVE LTO6 DEFINE PATH TSMPROD LTO1 SRCTYPE=SERVER DESTTYPE=DRIVE LIBRARY=DRLIB DEVICE=/DEV/RMT# DEFINE PATH NAS_SERVER_2 LTO6
Re: Retrieves failing on files with future archive attributes
Yes the client doesn't actively use any archive bit info for TSM archive or retrieve functionality (other than the data is stored on the TSM server and put back during retrieve). I'd need to see the SERVICE trace in order to get a better handle on where that ANS1301E is coming from. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 2005-03-10 11:01:55: Thank you Richard. I'm sorry if it wasn't clear before but this is a slightly odd scenario where data on NetWare clustered volumes will not get retrieved correctly after an archive. The files that fail all seem to have an odd archive attribute (not due to TSM). I was just interested in some background info on archives as the NetWare client manual is terser than the Windows client. Andrew Ferris Network Support Analyst iCAPTURE Research Centre University of British Columbia [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/10/2005 4:57:27 AM On Mar 9, 2005, at 9:05 PM, Andrew Ferris wrote: Thanks Andy. I'll talk to support but I'm still curious about if TSM looks at the archive attribute at all. TSM has historically not used the Archive Attribute in Windows to evaluate the backup candidacy of a file. See the client manual doc of the Resetarchiveattribute option. Richard Sims
Re: If we all complain, do you think they will add the WEB gui back?
Hi Everyone, I am an IBM Business Partner. I have been listening to what everyone has been saying about the ISC/AC. I, also, have some concerns about this since I not only have to use it I have to be able to sell it to others to use. I have been talking with several IBM'ers in this regard. The people I have been talking to are on both the TSM development side and on the channel (sales and marketing) side of the house. Obviously the channel people are very concerned when anything might possibly effect the ability of IBM BP's to sell their products. As such, I have been seeking to get them to put pressure on the development side to get some sort of improvements made. I have talked with the developers to help them see the issues that I see with my customers as well as what I have learned from all of you on this list. Also, you should know that IBM is listening and they are willing to make the necessary changes to resolve these issues. They are monitoring this list all the time so the only real survey you need to do is keep posting to the list! Now before I go to much further, I must make this statement (i.e. here comes the legal disclaimer), anything that I am about to disclose here is simply the results and/or contexts of conversation that I had with various IBM'ers and in no way implies any commitment on their or my part to provide any of the things we discussed. In other words we were just talking, but they were not promising anything. The biggest problem I see with the ISC/AC is not the application itself, change is inevitable and in fact in this case somewhat overdue. The problem with the ISC/AC is that there is not any reasonable migration path from the Web Admin GUI to the ISC/AC. They just flipped a switch and now you used ISC/AC and oh by the way it doesn't support any of your older TSM servers. Not a good plan and I think they recognize it as well. However, I will defend the developers to the point that there were very good reasons for the decisions that they made and how we wound up where we are today. Given similar situation I would have made similar choices with the exception I would have spent the time and resources to have a better migration path. As you all have probably guessed by now the ISC/AC isn't going away any time soon, nor should it. We have been long overdue for a improved GUI admin interface. The ISC/AC isn't perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but I have every confidence that IBM will develop it into a very mature tool as quickly as possible. I will mention some of the POSSIBLE enhancements that are upcoming later in this note. The focus of my discussion with the IBM powers that be was around how do we give the TSM community a better migration path to the ISC/AC environment. The key issue we focused on for creating a better migration path was the re-release of the Web Admin GUI. Obviously the the best thing would be to re-release it and have it support all of the 5.3 enhancements, but that comes at a cost. The trade off would be to take resources away from the ISC/AC development in order to uplift the Web Admin GUI. I don't think that is in the best interests of the TSM community as a whole. I suspect that what will happen is the Web Admin GUI will be re-released but frozen at the 5.2 level with no further development being done to it. My guess is it will be around through the 5.3 release and maybe little longer, like until all supported version of the TSM server are supported on the ISC/AC. I understand there was some talk of making the ISC/AC backwards compatible with version 5.2 but that did not go anywhere. Re-releasing the Web Admin GUI under this limited arrangement offers the compromise of best possible use of resources and a good migration path for the end users. This proposal would allow users to have time to migrate to the new ISC/AC and gain some competence and confidence in the ISC/AC while still having a tried and true interface available to them. Also, this gives IBM the time to make the ISC/AC a much more mature product before having it be the only choice for GUI admin support. The ISC/AC is going to become a much better product over time. Although it will certainly have a much greater value to those of you who have multiple TSM servers or who have several different IBM products that will be managed by the ISC, it will also be very good tool for those of you with just one server and no other products managed by the ISC. There are 2 big TSM updates scheduled for this year one in April and another in the September/October time frame. I would GUESS (i.e. I can't promise anything) that you will see several improvements to the ISC/AC environment. Like most of you I thought the command line interface available through the ISC/AC was useless at best, well I predict that will be greatly improved. It will have much more space, better fonts, just hit enter to get the command to run (I really hated clicking the submit button!), and
Re: Fw: disaster recovery drill: emergency!!!
The DR drill was a success thanks to everyone that helped me out and gave wonderful advice! I had a couple of small issues, but everything was very easy and clear cut. Thank you for asking! : ) Joni Moyer Highmark Storage Systems Work:(717)302-6603 Fax:(717)302-5974 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sung Y Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] OMTo Sent by: ADSM: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Dist Stor cc Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject .EDU Fw: disaster recovery drill: emergency!!! 03/10/2005 01:08 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] .EDU Hi Joni How did your disaster recovery drill go? Maybe you are recovering(getting rest)for couple of days. Sung Y. Lee - Forwarded by Sung Y Lee/Austin/IBM on 03/10/2005 01:05 PM - ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 03/08/2005 03:35:13 PM: Let us know how everything works out! I get to re-confirm my process next week. Tom Kauffman NIBCO, Inc -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joni Moyer Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 9:31 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: disaster recovery drill: emergency!!! Hi Tom, Thanks very much! I'm going to try it tomorrow morning at disaster recovery. : ) Joni Moyer Highmark Storage Systems Work:(717)302-6603 Fax:(717)302-5974 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kauffman, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] COM To Sent by: ADSM: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Dist Stor cc Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject .EDU Re: disaster recovery drill: emergency!!! 03/07/2005 05:37 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] .EDU All I can say is -- this works. TSM 5.1.6.3, actual library is a 3584 with 10 drives (becomes a 3584 with 6 drives at our hot-site, per contract) We've run this config for three successful recoveries. (And we may not even need the path definition for the library, but it doesn't seem to hurt). Tom Kauffman NIBCO, Inc -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joni Moyer Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 5:21 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: disaster recovery drill: emergency!!! Hi Tom, I'm just wondering how you have a manual library and then have a path with desttype=library instead of desttype=drive? And also, can I just update my lto2_offsite device class to point to my drlib manual library definition since that is what will be asking for the tape mounts? Thanks again! Joni Moyer Highmark Storage Systems Work:(717)302-6603 Fax:(717)302-5974 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kauffman, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] COM To Sent by: ADSM: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Dist Stor cc Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject .EDU Re: disaster recovery drill: emergency!!! 03/07/2005 05:09 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] .EDU Your 'define drive' commands need to reference the library they're in; FWIW, here's mine: DEFINE DEVCLASS NIBLTO DEVTYPE=LTO FORMAT=DRIVE MOUNTLIMIT=DRIVES MOUNTWAIT=60 MOUNTRETENTION=60 PREFIX=ADSM LIBRARY=ALEX SET SERVERNAME ADSM DEFINE LIBRARY ALEX LIBTYPE=MANUAL DEFINE DRIVE ALEX DRIVE_01 ONLINE=Yes DEFINE PATH ADSM ALEX SRCTYPE=SERVER DESTTYPE=LIBRARY ONLINE=YES DEFINE PATH ADSM DRIVE_01 SRCTYPE=SERVER DESTTYPE=DRIVE LIBRARY=ALEX DEVICE=/dev/rmtX ONLINE=YES And the 'define path' for the drive is all one line. I've actually got this set up as my D/R device config file that I load from floppy just before the database restore. Saves editing on-site. Tom Kauffman NIBCO, Inc -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joni Moyer Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 4:53 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: disaster recovery drill: emergency!!! Hi Tom,
Re: tape mount problem
Do a checkout libv libname volser rem=no checkl=no. This will checkout the tape and it will no longer be in the q libv output. After that, do a checkin libv libname search=yes checkin=priv checkl=barcode vollist=volser. That should bring back your tape. I am not sure of the syntax of the checkin command, it is always a pain to figure out what options fit with one another. I don't have a TSM server handy right now but this should work. Guillaume Gilbert Systems Specialist 514.866.8876 Office 514.866.0901 Fax 514.290.6526 BlackBerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] StorageTek Canada -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Muthyam Reddy Sent: March 10, 2005 12:45 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: tape mount problem Thanks for your quick response. Is there any way we can find original place where it was. Yes I know auditing going to fix all these problems but its time consuming. Karl, When I use 'q libvol' it does not element address and also in volhsit file. When I used robot backside panel to check volume location..it show nothing. Tape is in the library. thanks again. muthyam [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/10/2005 12:29:44 PM Yes, that is not surprising. Whenever you move a tape or place it in a slot yourself, you should run a TSM AUDIT LIBRARY command. That tells TSM to rescan the library and update the info about which tape is in each slot. Run the AUDIT LIBRARY from the admin command line, or from the web GUI. The syntax may be slightly different depending on the type of library your have. (When posting info to this list, PLEASE INCLUDE your TSM server platform, version #, and type of tape library. You'll get better answers that way!) AUDIT LIBRARY libname CHECKLABEL=BARCODE The AUDIT LIBRARY will not run if there are other tape operations in progress (like migration or reclaim). Wanda Prather I/O, I/O, It's all about I/O -(me) -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Muthyam Reddy Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 12:07 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: tape mount problem Hi, While I am trying to restore database, tape stuck in the tape drive and later I unloaded tape and kept in some slot in the library. Now when I am trying to restore its updating tape to unavailable and restore fails. I am thinking TSM lost address of tape after I placed tape manually in the slot. Is there any way I can find tape original slot in the library. Can some help how I am going to fix this problem. thanks muthyam This electronic mail transmission contains information from Joy Mining Machinery which is confidential, and is intended only for the use of the proper addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately at the return address on this transmission, or by telephone at (724) 779-4500, and delete this message and any attachments from your system. Unauthorized use, copying, disclosing, distributing, or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this transmission is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. privacy
Re: Export feasibility
Thank you Stuart for your feedback! --On den 10 mars 2005 16:18 +1100 Stuart Lamble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/03/2005, at 8:15 AM, Ragnar Sundblad wrote: We don't want to give up storing away a complete snapshot of our systems off site every few months, over time maybe reusing the off site tapes so that we finally save a snapshot a year. I think that the most logical way to accomplish this with TSM is to do a complete export like export server filedata=allactive ... What's wrong with using backup sets? The end result is the same -- all currently active data is stored on tape and can be moved offsite, without needing any maintenance from the main TSM server. Backup sets may be fine too. There are two issues with it that made me think that they were not as suitable for this as an export: - There seem to be no way to generate a backup set that contains multiple nodes, so I take it that if I don't want one tape per node (hundreds), I will have to generate the backup sets to disk and find some other way to pack them on tapes. Am I wrong here? - They can't be imported into the storage pools again. This is probably not really a problem, it just looks nice and feels good to be able to move data both ways. Given LTO 3 with an maximum data speed of 50 MB/s uncompressed, a moderate guess (I hope) for the data transfer rate would be 30 MB/s, which would give 93 hours to write it down. Given that a tape has a capacity of 400 GB uncompressed, it would take at the most 25 tapes. We would obviously want to be able to use the backup server as usual while doing the export. Then you would need to make sure that your server has enough capacity, in terms of tape drives (and connectivity to the tape drives), network bandwidth (to cover both the export and the backups), and such like to cope with both the export (or backup set generation) and regular backups simultaneously. Yes, that is quite reasonable. :-) I was just thinking that there might be some other resource that that server could get short of, like database rollback or something, if it was both doing an export for days and at the same time was backing up. I hope that is not a problem, and especially it shouldn't be if I use backup sets instead. From my point of view, being in the middle of fiddling around with exports (server to server in my case) for various last ditch DR systems, I'd suggest keeping it simple. If backup sets (see the generate backupset command in the admin reference manual) fill your needs, my advice would be to make use of them, rather than using the rather fragile option of server data exports. I very much agree, simple is good! :-) It is interresting, but sad, to hear that you too find exports fragile. May I ask what the problems typically are? If I can do what I want with backup sets instead, that is probably a better way. Thank you again for your thoughts! Best regards, Ragnar Sundblad
Re: tape mount problem
Just before I finished auditing proses in the library to fix missing tape slot problem. Before audit proses I could see that tape when I list tapes by 'q libvol'. After auditing library I could not find tape in the library list (q libvol) but it is there in the library. Even when I tried checkout libv libname volser rem=no checkl=no says tape does not exists in the library. I don't no what went wrong. I used 'audit libr 3494lib1 checklabel=yes Please provide some inputs to move this forwd. Thanks muthyam [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/10/2005 2:07:54 PM Do a checkout libv libname volser rem=no checkl=no. This will checkout the tape and it will no longer be in the q libv output. After that, do a checkin libv libname search=yes checkin=priv checkl=barcode vollist=volser. That should bring back your tape. I am not sure of the syntax of the checkin command, it is always a pain to figure out what options fit with one another. I don't have a TSM server handy right now but this should work. Guillaume Gilbert Systems Specialist 514.866.8876 Office 514.866.0901 Fax 514.290.6526 BlackBerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] StorageTek Canada -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Muthyam Reddy Sent: March 10, 2005 12:45 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: tape mount problem Thanks for your quick response. Is there any way we can find original place where it was. Yes I know auditing going to fix all these problems but its time consuming. Karl, When I use 'q libvol' it does not element address and also in volhsit file. When I used robot backside panel to check volume location..it show nothing. Tape is in the library. thanks again. muthyam [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/10/2005 12:29:44 PM Yes, that is not surprising. Whenever you move a tape or place it in a slot yourself, you should run a TSM AUDIT LIBRARY command. That tells TSM to rescan the library and update the info about which tape is in each slot. Run the AUDIT LIBRARY from the admin command line, or from the web GUI. The syntax may be slightly different depending on the type of library your have. (When posting info to this list, PLEASE INCLUDE your TSM server platform, version #, and type of tape library. You'll get better answers that way!) AUDIT LIBRARY libname CHECKLABEL=BARCODE The AUDIT LIBRARY will not run if there are other tape operations in progress (like migration or reclaim). Wanda Prather I/O, I/O, It's all about I/O -(me) -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Muthyam Reddy Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 12:07 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: tape mount problem Hi, While I am trying to restore database, tape stuck in the tape drive and later I unloaded tape and kept in some slot in the library. Now when I am trying to restore its updating tape to unavailable and restore fails. I am thinking TSM lost address of tape after I placed tape manually in the slot. Is there any way I can find tape original slot in the library. Can some help how I am going to fix this problem. thanks muthyam This electronic mail transmission contains information from Joy Mining Machinery which is confidential, and is intended only for the use of the proper addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately at the return address on this transmission, or by telephone at (724) 779-4500, and delete this message and any attachments from your system. Unauthorized use, copying, disclosing, distributing, or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this transmission is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. privacy
Re: Need a script
YES, I supposed I should have pointed that out. The original poster asked how to find what tape a specific file is on. I was posting the contents of the original IBM TECHNOTE that explain how to do that with a SHOW command. I believe as you do that steps C. and D. in the TECHNOTE are VERY (DANGEROUSLY) incorrect. I will try to find the right person in IBM to get that corrected. Wanda -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Naylor Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 4:09 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Need a script Wanda Prather wrote re deleting a single file from a tape C. Next, set up the client's dsm.opt to include ONLY the targeted file and exclude all others include /path/file newmgmtclass . D. Run a backup. When the backup completes, run expiration. Wanda, Maybe I'm having a senior moment, but if you do a backup excluding all other files, isn't that the same to TSM as deleting them all from the client so they become inactive and expire according to their management classes. John ** The information in this E-Mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It may not represent the views of Scottish and Southern Energy Group. It is intended solely for the addressees. Access to this E-Mail by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any unauthorised recipient should advise the sender immediately of the error in transmission. Unless specifically stated otherwise, this email (or any attachments to it) is not an offer capable of acceptance or acceptance of an offer and it does not form part of a binding contractual agreement. Scottish Hydro-Electric, Southern Electric, SWALEC, S+S and SSE Power Distribution are trading names of the Scottish and Southern Energy Group. **
Re: Need a script
Consider this noted. Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 2005-03-10 13:20:01: YES, I supposed I should have pointed that out. The original poster asked how to find what tape a specific file is on. I was posting the contents of the original IBM TECHNOTE that explain how to do that with a SHOW command. I believe as you do that steps C. and D. in the TECHNOTE are VERY (DANGEROUSLY) incorrect. I will try to find the right person in IBM to get that corrected. Wanda -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Naylor Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 4:09 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Need a script Wanda Prather wrote re deleting a single file from a tape C. Next, set up the client's dsm.opt to include ONLY the targeted file and exclude all others include /path/file newmgmtclass . D. Run a backup. When the backup completes, run expiration. Wanda, Maybe I'm having a senior moment, but if you do a backup excluding all other files, isn't that the same to TSM as deleting them all from the client so they become inactive and expire according to their management classes. John ** The information in this E-Mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It may not represent the views of Scottish and Southern Energy Group. It is intended solely for the addressees. Access to this E-Mail by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any unauthorised recipient should advise the sender immediately of the error in transmission. Unless specifically stated otherwise, this email (or any attachments to it) is not an offer capable of acceptance or acceptance of an offer and it does not form part of a binding contractual agreement. Scottish Hydro-Electric, Southern Electric, SWALEC, S+S and SSE Power Distribution are trading names of the Scottish and Southern Energy Group. **
Re: Export feasibility
On 11/03/2005, at 6:25 AM, Ragnar Sundblad wrote: --On den 10 mars 2005 16:18 +1100 Stuart Lamble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/03/2005, at 8:15 AM, Ragnar Sundblad wrote: [snipping] I think that the most logical way to accomplish this with TSM is to do a complete export like export server filedata=allactive ... What's wrong with using backup sets? The end result is the same -- all currently active data is stored on tape and can be moved offsite, without needing any maintenance from the main TSM server. Backup sets may be fine too. There are two issues with it that made me think that they were not as suitable for this as an export: - There seem to be no way to generate a backup set that contains multiple nodes, so I take it that if I don't want one tape per node (hundreds), I will have to generate the backup sets to disk and find some other way to pack them on tapes. Am I wrong here? Not as far as I can tell, alas. The other is probably not as important -- I agree that symmetry is nice to have, but for DR purposes, you can probably live without it. [more snipping] I was just thinking that there might be some other resource that that server could get short of, like database rollback or something, if it was both doing an export for days and at the same time was backing up. I hope that is not a problem, and especially it shouldn't be if I use backup sets instead. On that, I'll have to defer to the more knowledgeable crowd on the mailing list; I honestly don't know. One option you do have is to export in batches -- say, a quarter of the nodes in one batch; another quarter in the next batch; and so on, giving the server time to do any maintenance it needs but can't perform whilst an export is occurring. I'd be surprised, though, if there was any of significance. Not saying there won't be any, just that it would surprise me. If backup sets (see the generate backupset command in the admin reference manual) fill your needs, my advice would be to make use of them, rather than using the rather fragile option of server data exports. I very much agree, simple is good! :-) It is interresting, but sad, to hear that you too find exports fragile. May I ask what the problems typically are? I've found, for example, that if the server is unable to read the data it wants off the primary tape, it doesn't appear to revert to the backup copy to complete the export; rather, the export fails. I haven't chased this up, as I had far too many other (rather urgent) matters on my hands when it occurred, so there may be other factors at play -- but that's one example. There are a couple of other things that may or may not be of concern; again, I haven't spent as much time as I should verifying all the ins and outs, so without knowing, I'd prefer to keep my mouth shut on them lest I be seen as a fool. :-) If I can do what I want with backup sets instead, that is probably a better way. One suggestion I do have would be to test. If you can afford to have the backup system in a potentially not-working state for a period of time, run some tests and see what happens. Try to make it break as much as you can; take tapes out of the silo (telling TSM about it, of course) to see how it copes; things like that. You'll end up being much more secure in what you're doing if you know how it can break, and how to recover if it does break. All this, of course, is with the understanding that, more likely than not, you'll not be in a position to do any of this. :-( Hope this is of help in some small way.
Re: Export feasibility
Of course the big gotcha with backupsets is that they don't support TDP data. With no disrespect intended to those who developed this aspect of the product, they've always seemed to me more of a sales tool rather than a really useful feature of the product, enabling the concerns of a prospect used to inferior products to be addressed and get TSM in the door. Once there, there are better ways to do all this stuff. Regards Steve. Steve Harris resting as the actors say Brisbane, Australia - Original Message - From: Ragnar Sundblad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 5:25 AM Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Export feasibility Thank you Stuart for your feedback! --On den 10 mars 2005 16:18 +1100 Stuart Lamble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/03/2005, at 8:15 AM, Ragnar Sundblad wrote: We don't want to give up storing away a complete snapshot of our systems off site every few months, over time maybe reusing the off site tapes so that we finally save a snapshot a year. I think that the most logical way to accomplish this with TSM is to do a complete export like export server filedata=allactive ... What's wrong with using backup sets? The end result is the same -- all currently active data is stored on tape and can be moved offsite, without needing any maintenance from the main TSM server. Backup sets may be fine too. There are two issues with it that made me think that they were not as suitable for this as an export: - There seem to be no way to generate a backup set that contains multiple nodes, so I take it that if I don't want one tape per node (hundreds), I will have to generate the backup sets to disk and find some other way to pack them on tapes. Am I wrong here? - They can't be imported into the storage pools again. This is probably not really a problem, it just looks nice and feels good to be able to move data both ways. Given LTO 3 with an maximum data speed of 50 MB/s uncompressed, a moderate guess (I hope) for the data transfer rate would be 30 MB/s, which would give 93 hours to write it down. Given that a tape has a capacity of 400 GB uncompressed, it would take at the most 25 tapes. We would obviously want to be able to use the backup server as usual while doing the export. Then you would need to make sure that your server has enough capacity, in terms of tape drives (and connectivity to the tape drives), network bandwidth (to cover both the export and the backups), and such like to cope with both the export (or backup set generation) and regular backups simultaneously. Yes, that is quite reasonable. :-) I was just thinking that there might be some other resource that that server could get short of, like database rollback or something, if it was both doing an export for days and at the same time was backing up. I hope that is not a problem, and especially it shouldn't be if I use backup sets instead. From my point of view, being in the middle of fiddling around with exports (server to server in my case) for various last ditch DR systems, I'd suggest keeping it simple. If backup sets (see the generate backupset command in the admin reference manual) fill your needs, my advice would be to make use of them, rather than using the rather fragile option of server data exports. I very much agree, simple is good! :-) It is interresting, but sad, to hear that you too find exports fragile. May I ask what the problems typically are? If I can do what I want with backup sets instead, that is probably a better way. Thank you again for your thoughts! Best regards, Ragnar Sundblad
Re: tape mount problem
Muthy, When you moved the tape in the library, did you do it manually or by the library's control panel or web interface? For a 3494, TSM audit only asks the library for a download of its own information. So, if the library doesn't know, TSM can't know. You may have to physically remove the tape from the library and then run a TSM checkin process. Regards Steve Steve Harris resting as the actors say Brisbane, Australia - Original Message - From: Muthyam Reddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 5:30 AM Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] tape mount problem Just before I finished auditing proses in the library to fix missing tape slot problem. Before audit proses I could see that tape when I list tapes by 'q libvol'. After auditing library I could not find tape in the library list (q libvol) but it is there in the library. Even when I tried checkout libv libname volser rem=no checkl=no says tape does not exists in the library. I don't no what went wrong. I used 'audit libr 3494lib1 checklabel=yes Please provide some inputs to move this forwd. Thanks muthyam [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/10/2005 2:07:54 PM Do a checkout libv libname volser rem=no checkl=no. This will checkout the tape and it will no longer be in the q libv output. After that, do a checkin libv libname search=yes checkin=priv checkl=barcode vollist=volser. That should bring back your tape. I am not sure of the syntax of the checkin command, it is always a pain to figure out what options fit with one another. I don't have a TSM server handy right now but this should work. Guillaume Gilbert Systems Specialist 514.866.8876 Office 514.866.0901 Fax 514.290.6526 BlackBerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] StorageTek Canada -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Muthyam Reddy Sent: March 10, 2005 12:45 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: tape mount problem Thanks for your quick response. Is there any way we can find original place where it was. Yes I know auditing going to fix all these problems but its time consuming. Karl, When I use 'q libvol' it does not element address and also in volhsit file. When I used robot backside panel to check volume location..it show nothing. Tape is in the library. thanks again. muthyam [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/10/2005 12:29:44 PM Yes, that is not surprising. Whenever you move a tape or place it in a slot yourself, you should run a TSM AUDIT LIBRARY command. That tells TSM to rescan the library and update the info about which tape is in each slot. Run the AUDIT LIBRARY from the admin command line, or from the web GUI. The syntax may be slightly different depending on the type of library your have. (When posting info to this list, PLEASE INCLUDE your TSM server platform, version #, and type of tape library. You'll get better answers that way!) AUDIT LIBRARY libname CHECKLABEL=BARCODE The AUDIT LIBRARY will not run if there are other tape operations in progress (like migration or reclaim). Wanda Prather I/O, I/O, It's all about I/O -(me) -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Muthyam Reddy Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 12:07 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: tape mount problem Hi, While I am trying to restore database, tape stuck in the tape drive and later I unloaded tape and kept in some slot in the library. Now when I am trying to restore its updating tape to unavailable and restore fails. I am thinking TSM lost address of tape after I placed tape manually in the slot. Is there any way I can find tape original slot in the library. Can some help how I am going to fix this problem. thanks muthyam This electronic mail transmission contains information from Joy Mining Machinery which is confidential, and is intended only for the use of the proper addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately at the return address on this transmission, or by telephone at (724) 779-4500, and delete this message and any attachments from your system. Unauthorized use, copying, disclosing, distributing, or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this transmission is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. privacy
Re: If we all complain, do you think they will add the WEB gui back?
Mark, That is a great post from you, and yes ISC is Version 1 and will improve with time and use. But, if you will allow me to reiterate a previous post: There is a new DSMAPI admin api that is used by the ISC to perform TSM comands. One additional way forward would be to expose this api, so that the talented members of the user community can develop the interfaces that *they* desire using perl/python/PHP/java or whatever. This is an almost zero cost solution for IBM that will make life very much easier for them and for us. Look at the utilty of the standard TSM api. The adsmpipe program that was written for version 2 still works well on version 5. Many applications have been built on top of this api and it provides great functionality for both IBM (eg the i5OS BRMS interface) and others. The admin api could be as good - to see the sort of thing that is do-able look at http://www.phpmyadmin.net/home_page/index.php , and particlarly have a play under the demos tab. Please IBM stop treating us like mushrooms and let in the light. Steve Steve Harris TSM and AIX Admin Between jobs at the moment Brisbane Australia - Original Message - From: Mark D. Rodriguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 4:19 AM Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] If we all complain, do you think they will add the WEB gui back? Hi Everyone, I am an IBM Business Partner. I have been listening to what everyone has been saying about the ISC/AC. I, also, have some concerns about this since I not only have to use it I have to be able to sell it to others to use. I have been talking with several IBM'ers in this regard. The people I have been talking to are on both the TSM development side and on the channel (sales and marketing) side of the house. Obviously the channel people are very concerned when anything might possibly effect the ability of IBM BP's to sell their products. As such, I have been seeking to get them to put pressure on the development side to get some sort of improvements made. I have talked with the developers to help them see the issues that I see with my customers as well as what I have learned from all of you on this list. Also, you should know that IBM is listening and they are willing to make the necessary changes to resolve these issues. They are monitoring this list all the time so the only real survey you need to do is keep posting to the list! Now before I go to much further, I must make this statement (i.e. here comes the legal disclaimer), anything that I am about to disclose here is simply the results and/or contexts of conversation that I had with various IBM'ers and in no way implies any commitment on their or my part to provide any of the things we discussed. In other words we were just talking, but they were not promising anything. The biggest problem I see with the ISC/AC is not the application itself, change is inevitable and in fact in this case somewhat overdue. The problem with the ISC/AC is that there is not any reasonable migration path from the Web Admin GUI to the ISC/AC. They just flipped a switch and now you used ISC/AC and oh by the way it doesn't support any of your older TSM servers. Not a good plan and I think they recognize it as well. However, I will defend the developers to the point that there were very good reasons for the decisions that they made and how we wound up where we are today. Given similar situation I would have made similar choices with the exception I would have spent the time and resources to have a better migration path. As you all have probably guessed by now the ISC/AC isn't going away any time soon, nor should it. We have been long overdue for a improved GUI admin interface. The ISC/AC isn't perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but I have every confidence that IBM will develop it into a very mature tool as quickly as possible. I will mention some of the POSSIBLE enhancements that are upcoming later in this note. The focus of my discussion with the IBM powers that be was around how do we give the TSM community a better migration path to the ISC/AC environment. The key issue we focused on for creating a better migration path was the re-release of the Web Admin GUI. Obviously the the best thing would be to re-release it and have it support all of the 5.3 enhancements, but that comes at a cost. The trade off would be to take resources away from the ISC/AC development in order to uplift the Web Admin GUI. I don't think that is in the best interests of the TSM community as a whole. I suspect that what will happen is the Web Admin GUI will be re-released but frozen at the 5.2 level with no further development being done to it. My guess is it will be around through the 5.3 release and maybe little longer, like until all supported version of the TSM server are supported on the ISC/AC. I understand there was some talk of making the ISC/AC backwards compatible with version 5.2 but that did not go anywhere.
Re: tape mount problem
Steve,I could fix the problem and what you said is right. Lesson what I learned is ..whenever you unload tape from tapedrive do not place in some empty slot in library. Close the doors and Place it in the drawer and checkin as private tape(check label=yes) then it keeps originally where it was. I could restore database successfully. Than You. mut [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/10/2005 7:17:28 PM Muthy, When you moved the tape in the library, did you do it manually or by the library's control panel or web interface? For a 3494, TSM audit only asks the library for a download of its own information. So, if the library doesn't know, TSM can't know. You may have to physically remove the tape from the library and then run a TSM checkin process. Regards Steve Steve Harris resting as the actors say Brisbane, Australia - Original Message - From: Muthyam Reddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 5:30 AM Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] tape mount problem Just before I finished auditing proses in the library to fix missing tape slot problem. Before audit proses I could see that tape when I list tapes by 'q libvol'. After auditing library I could not find tape in the library list (q libvol) but it is there in the library. Even when I tried checkout libv libname volser rem=no checkl=no says tape does not exists in the library. I don't no what went wrong. I used 'audit libr 3494lib1 checklabel=yes Please provide some inputs to move this forwd. Thanks muthyam [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/10/2005 2:07:54 PM Do a checkout libv libname volser rem=no checkl=no. This will checkout the tape and it will no longer be in the q libv output. After that, do a checkin libv libname search=yes checkin=priv checkl=barcode vollist=volser. That should bring back your tape. I am not sure of the syntax of the checkin command, it is always a pain to figure out what options fit with one another. I don't have a TSM server handy right now but this should work. Guillaume Gilbert Systems Specialist 514.866.8876 Office 514.866.0901 Fax 514.290.6526 BlackBerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] StorageTek Canada -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Muthyam Reddy Sent: March 10, 2005 12:45 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: tape mount problem Thanks for your quick response. Is there any way we can find original place where it was. Yes I know auditing going to fix all these problems but its time consuming. Karl, When I use 'q libvol' it does not element address and also in volhsit file. When I used robot backside panel to check volume location..it show nothing. Tape is in the library. thanks again. muthyam [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/10/2005 12:29:44 PM Yes, that is not surprising. Whenever you move a tape or place it in a slot yourself, you should run a TSM AUDIT LIBRARY command. That tells TSM to rescan the library and update the info about which tape is in each slot. Run the AUDIT LIBRARY from the admin command line, or from the web GUI. The syntax may be slightly different depending on the type of library your have. (When posting info to this list, PLEASE INCLUDE your TSM server platform, version #, and type of tape library. You'll get better answers that way!) AUDIT LIBRARY libname CHECKLABEL=BARCODE The AUDIT LIBRARY will not run if there are other tape operations in progress (like migration or reclaim). Wanda Prather I/O, I/O, It's all about I/O -(me) -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Muthyam Reddy Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 12:07 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: tape mount problem Hi, While I am trying to restore database, tape stuck in the tape drive and later I unloaded tape and kept in some slot in the library. Now when I am trying to restore its updating tape to unavailable and restore fails. I am thinking TSM lost address of tape after I placed tape manually in the slot. Is there any way I can find tape original slot in the library. Can some help how I am going to fix this problem. thanks muthyam This electronic mail transmission contains information from Joy Mining Machinery which is confidential, and is intended only for the use of the proper addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately at the return address on this transmission, or by telephone at (724) 779-4500, and delete this message and any attachments from your system. Unauthorized use, copying, disclosing, distributing, or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this transmission is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. privacy
Re: Volume sequence
Thanks.. where can we get documentation or manual on the 'Show command? But what my management want is a list of tapes, their nodes and the file sequence number and the backup date From whisch tables can I retreive all these info. e.g Tape Number Node Name Backup Date Seq. No --- - --- -- TEST001 SERVER012005-01-01 1 TEST001 SERVER012005-01-01 2 TEST002 SERVER032005-01-05 1 TEST003 SERVER052005-01-05 1 So, from this report, we will know that SERVER01 used 2 tapes and so on. Can anybody help me?? Thank you ~Norita Hasan~ -Original Message- From: fred johanson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 10:43 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Volume sequence The undocumented, but well known, show volumeusage node_name lists the volumes in the order they were assigned to the client. At 10:51 AM 3/10/2005 +0800, you wrote: I've tried that script, but I need to know the file sequence. Eg. I have a large database of 170GB.It should occupied more than 1 tape. How do I know which tape is the first one, and which is next . ~Norita Hasan~ -Original Message- From: goc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 8:53 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Volume sequence you can try this ... it givec a lot more and it's useful i think select vu.node_name,vo.status,vu.copy_type,vo.est_capacity_mb,vo.pct_utilized,vo.v o lume_name - from volumeusage vu,volumes vo - where vo.volume_name=vu.volume_name - group by vu.node_name,vo.status,vu.copy_type,vo.est_capacity_mb,vo.pct_utilized,vo.v o lume_name - order by vo.volume_name, - vu.node_name,vu.copy_type,vo.pct_utilized - Original Message - From: Norita binti Hassan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 11:51 AM Subject: Volume sequence Hi, Is there any select statement that can display the volume sequence number so that I can list all the volumes in sequence that has been used by specific node. NORITA BINTI HASAN Senior Programmer Enterprise Systems Services Information Communication Tech.Div 6th Floor, Pos Malaysia Berhad 50670 Kuala Lumpur Tel : 03 - 22756638 Pos Malaysia Berhad is Malaysia's national postal company Visit us online at www.pos.com.my NOTICE This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the addressee or authorised to receive this email, you must not use, copy, disclose or take any action based on this email. If you have received this email in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Pos Malaysia Berhad takes no responsibility for the contents of this email. Pos Malaysia Berhad is Malaysia's national postal company Visit us online at www.pos.com.my NOTICE This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the addressee or authorised to receive this email, you must not use, copy, disclose or take any action based on this email. If you have received this email in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Pos Malaysia Berhad takes no responsibility for the contents of this email. Fred Johanson ITSM Administrator University of Chicago 773-702-8464 Pos Malaysia Berhad is Malaysia's national postal company Visit us online at www.pos.com.my NOTICE This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the addressee or authorised to receive this email, you must not use, copy, disclose or take any action based on this email. If you have received this email in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Pos Malaysia Berhad takes no responsibility for the contents of this email.
Re: tape mount problem
Mut, The correct procedure for a 3494 is to place any tape moved in this way into the recovery slot, which is the top left slot of the library manager frame. If you watch the robot, this slot is always the first one checked when the library goes online. The library recognizes that this slot contains a tape that needs to be put away and it will do so. Regards Steve - Original Message - From: Muthyam Reddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 1:01 PM Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] tape mount problem Steve,I could fix the problem and what you said is right. Lesson what I learned is ..whenever you unload tape from tapedrive do not place in some empty slot in library. Close the doors and Place it in the drawer and checkin as private tape(check label=yes) then it keeps originally where it was. I could restore database successfully. Than You. mut [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/10/2005 7:17:28 PM Muthy, When you moved the tape in the library, did you do it manually or by the library's control panel or web interface? For a 3494, TSM audit only asks the library for a download of its own information. So, if the library doesn't know, TSM can't know. You may have to physically remove the tape from the library and then run a TSM checkin process. Regards Steve Steve Harris resting as the actors say Brisbane, Australia - Original Message - From: Muthyam Reddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 5:30 AM Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] tape mount problem Just before I finished auditing proses in the library to fix missing tape slot problem. Before audit proses I could see that tape when I list tapes by 'q libvol'. After auditing library I could not find tape in the library list (q libvol) but it is there in the library. Even when I tried checkout libv libname volser rem=no checkl=no says tape does not exists in the library. I don't no what went wrong. I used 'audit libr 3494lib1 checklabel=yes Please provide some inputs to move this forwd. Thanks muthyam [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/10/2005 2:07:54 PM Do a checkout libv libname volser rem=no checkl=no. This will checkout the tape and it will no longer be in the q libv output. After that, do a checkin libv libname search=yes checkin=priv checkl=barcode vollist=volser. That should bring back your tape. I am not sure of the syntax of the checkin command, it is always a pain to figure out what options fit with one another. I don't have a TSM server handy right now but this should work. Guillaume Gilbert Systems Specialist 514.866.8876 Office 514.866.0901 Fax 514.290.6526 BlackBerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] StorageTek Canada -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Muthyam Reddy Sent: March 10, 2005 12:45 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: tape mount problem Thanks for your quick response. Is there any way we can find original place where it was. Yes I know auditing going to fix all these problems but its time consuming. Karl, When I use 'q libvol' it does not element address and also in volhsit file. When I used robot backside panel to check volume location..it show nothing. Tape is in the library. thanks again. muthyam [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/10/2005 12:29:44 PM Yes, that is not surprising. Whenever you move a tape or place it in a slot yourself, you should run a TSM AUDIT LIBRARY command. That tells TSM to rescan the library and update the info about which tape is in each slot. Run the AUDIT LIBRARY from the admin command line, or from the web GUI. The syntax may be slightly different depending on the type of library your have. (When posting info to this list, PLEASE INCLUDE your TSM server platform, version #, and type of tape library. You'll get better answers that way!) AUDIT LIBRARY libname CHECKLABEL=BARCODE The AUDIT LIBRARY will not run if there are other tape operations in progress (like migration or reclaim). Wanda Prather I/O, I/O, It's all about I/O -(me) -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Muthyam Reddy Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 12:07 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: tape mount problem Hi, While I am trying to restore database, tape stuck in the tape drive and later I unloaded tape and kept in some slot in the library. Now when I am trying to restore its updating tape to unavailable and restore fails. I am thinking TSM lost address of tape after I placed tape manually in the slot. Is there any way I can find tape original slot in the library. Can some help how I am going to fix this problem. thanks muthyam This electronic mail transmission contains information from Joy Mining Machinery which is confidential, and is intended only for the use of the proper addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately at the return address on this transmission, or by telephone at (724)
Re: Volume sequence
Norita, It sounds like your management is attempting to impose a standard derived for a less sophisticated product onto TSM. What they want, as I read it, is an assurance that they know what is on any given tape, in case of a disaster recovery - if that is the case, then they need an offsite database backup, and a recovery plan file: nothing else will do. That way they know which offsite tape has the latest database backup and can perform a restore if need be. Ask them for the result that they wish to achieve, not the means to provide it. I realize that as a technician it is often difficult to resist the unreasonable and unthinking demands of management, but you are the one who is charged with running this, not them. Be firm. Regards Steve. Steve Harris Brisbane, Australia - Original Message - From: Norita binti Hassan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Volume sequence Thanks.. where can we get documentation or manual on the 'Show command? But what my management want is a list of tapes, their nodes and the file sequence number and the backup date From whisch tables can I retreive all these info. e.g Tape Number Node Name Backup Date Seq. No --- - --- -- TEST001 SERVER01 2005-01-01 1 TEST001 SERVER01 2005-01-01 2 TEST002 SERVER03 2005-01-05 1 TEST003 SERVER05 2005-01-05 1 So, from this report, we will know that SERVER01 used 2 tapes and so on. Can anybody help me?? Thank you ~Norita Hasan~ -Original Message- From: fred johanson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 10:43 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Volume sequence The undocumented, but well known, show volumeusage node_name lists the volumes in the order they were assigned to the client. At 10:51 AM 3/10/2005 +0800, you wrote: I've tried that script, but I need to know the file sequence. Eg. I have a large database of 170GB.It should occupied more than 1 tape. How do I know which tape is the first one, and which is next . ~Norita Hasan~ -Original Message- From: goc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 8:53 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Volume sequence you can try this ... it givec a lot more and it's useful i think select vu.node_name,vo.status,vu.copy_type,vo.est_capacity_mb,vo.pct_utilized,vo.v o lume_name - from volumeusage vu,volumes vo - where vo.volume_name=vu.volume_name - group by vu.node_name,vo.status,vu.copy_type,vo.est_capacity_mb,vo.pct_utilized,vo.v o lume_name - order by vo.volume_name, - vu.node_name,vu.copy_type,vo.pct_utilized - Original Message - From: Norita binti Hassan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 11:51 AM Subject: Volume sequence Hi, Is there any select statement that can display the volume sequence number so that I can list all the volumes in sequence that has been used by specific node. NORITA BINTI HASAN Senior Programmer Enterprise Systems Services Information Communication Tech.Div 6th Floor, Pos Malaysia Berhad 50670 Kuala Lumpur Tel : 03 - 22756638 Pos Malaysia Berhad is Malaysia's national postal company Visit us online at www.pos.com.my NOTICE This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the addressee or authorised to receive this email, you must not use, copy, disclose or take any action based on this email. If you have received this email in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Pos Malaysia Berhad takes no responsibility for the contents of this email. Pos Malaysia Berhad is Malaysia's national postal company Visit us online at www.pos.com.my NOTICE This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the addressee or authorised to receive this email, you must not use, copy, disclose or take any action based on this email. If you have received this email in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Pos Malaysia Berhad takes no responsibility for the contents of this email. Fred Johanson ITSM Administrator University of Chicago 773-702-8464 Pos Malaysia Berhad is Malaysia's national postal company Visit us online at www.pos.com.my NOTICE This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the addressee or authorised to receive this email, you must not use, copy, disclose or take any action based on this email. If you have received this email in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Pos Malaysia Berhad takes no responsibility for the contents of this email.
AW: If we all complain, do you think they will add the WEB gui back?
Banana Software mature at the customers side:-) -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Auftrag von Mark D. Rodriguez Gesendet: Donnerstag, 10. März 2005 19:19 An: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Betreff: Re: If we all complain, do you think they will add the WEB gui back? Hi Everyone, I am an IBM Business Partner. I have been listening to what everyone has been saying about the ISC/AC. I, also, have some concerns about this since I not only have to use it I have to be able to sell it to others to use. I have been talking with several IBM'ers in this regard. The people I have been talking to are on both the TSM development side and on the channel (sales and marketing) side of the house. Obviously the channel people are very concerned when anything might possibly effect the ability of IBM BP's to sell their products. As such, I have been seeking to get them to put pressure on the development side to get some sort of improvements made. I have talked with the developers to help them see the issues that I see with my customers as well as what I have learned from all of you on this list. Also, you should know that IBM is listening and they are willing to make the necessary changes to resolve these issues. They are monitoring this list all the time so the only real survey you need to do is keep posting to the list! Now before I go to much further, I must make this statement (i.e. here comes the legal disclaimer), anything that I am about to disclose here is simply the results and/or contexts of conversation that I had with various IBM'ers and in no way implies any commitment on their or my part to provide any of the things we discussed. In other words we were just talking, but they were not promising anything. The biggest problem I see with the ISC/AC is not the application itself, change is inevitable and in fact in this case somewhat overdue. The problem with the ISC/AC is that there is not any reasonable migration path from the Web Admin GUI to the ISC/AC. They just flipped a switch and now you used ISC/AC and oh by the way it doesn't support any of your older TSM servers. Not a good plan and I think they recognize it as well. However, I will defend the developers to the point that there were very good reasons for the decisions that they made and how we wound up where we are today. Given similar situation I would have made similar choices with the exception I would have spent the time and resources to have a better migration path. As you all have probably guessed by now the ISC/AC isn't going away any time soon, nor should it. We have been long overdue for a improved GUI admin interface. The ISC/AC isn't perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but I have every confidence that IBM will develop it into a very mature tool as quickly as possible. I will mention some of the POSSIBLE enhancements that are upcoming later in this note. The focus of my discussion with the IBM powers that be was around how do we give the TSM community a better migration path to the ISC/AC environment. The key issue we focused on for creating a better migration path was the re-release of the Web Admin GUI. Obviously the the best thing would be to re-release it and have it support all of the 5.3 enhancements, but that comes at a cost. The trade off would be to take resources away from the ISC/AC development in order to uplift the Web Admin GUI. I don't think that is in the best interests of the TSM community as a whole. I suspect that what will happen is the Web Admin GUI will be re-released but frozen at the 5.2 level with no further development being done to it. My guess is it will be around through the 5.3 release and maybe little longer, like until all supported version of the TSM server are supported on the ISC/AC. I understand there was some talk of making the ISC/AC backwards compatible with version 5.2 but that did not go anywhere. Re-releasing the Web Admin GUI under this limited arrangement offers the compromise of best possible use of resources and a good migration path for the end users. This proposal would allow users to have time to migrate to the new ISC/AC and gain some competence and confidence in the ISC/AC while still having a tried and true interface available to them. Also, this gives IBM the time to make the ISC/AC a much more mature product before having it be the only choice for GUI admin support. The ISC/AC is going to become a much better product over time. Although it will certainly have a much greater value to those of you who have multiple TSM servers or who have several different IBM products that will be managed by the ISC, it will also be very good tool for those of you with just one server and no other products managed by the ISC. There are 2 big TSM updates scheduled for this year one in April and another in the September/October time frame. I would GUESS (i.e. I can't promise anything) that you will see several
