Re: TDP for Oracle and Backup Set Creation

2005-11-28 Thread Peters, Neil G
If you are using an Oracle catalog in conjuction to using the TDP - you may 
want to also use exp with rman to match the TDP data with that of the catalog. 



From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager on behalf of Steven Harris
Sent: Mon 11/28/2005 10:00 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: TDP for Oracle and Backup Set Creation



Muthu

You can generate a backupset for TDP data, but you can't restore from it.

Use export instead.

Regards

Steve

Steve Harris
AIX and TSM Admin
Brisbane Australia


> -Original Message-
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> On Behalf Of Muthukumar Kannaiyan
> Sent: Tuesday, 29 November 2005 8:30 AM
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: [ADSM-L] TDP for Oracle and Backup Set Creation
>
>
> We are planning to create backup set for a node which usesTDP
> for Oracle. How does TSM will generate backup set for this
> node?. Is it possible to create?. If so, is there a procedure
> to recover from this backup?
>
> TIA
> Muthu
>
>
>


Re: Full backup?

2005-11-28 Thread Andrew Raibeck
Hi Dave,

I assume that you'll be using a test TSM server that has been created by
restoring a backup copy of the production server's TSM database. My
scenario implies that you'll have to make a production TSM server db
backup after you created the special copy storage pool volumes for the
node.

I'm not sure I follow how getting "... two other nodes up and running" is
not a client test. If you are just looking to verify that the TSM *server*
was restored correctly, you could probably bring one tape with you that
has one (or a few) of the node's files on it, and try restoring those
files, without doing anything else special. That is less messy than
manipulating your schedules to try and get a "full" backup.

There are almost certainly other ways to manipulate your production TSM
environment to generate a smaller set of tapes, but not all methods are
quick (e.g., collocation, if not currently in use), but as my earlier
response suggests, there is the bigger question of what it is you are
really trying to accomplish. If your DR test is intended to verify that
you can restore a working TSM server and you demonstrate that by restoring
a few client files, that's one thing. But if your objectives also include
trying to restore a complete client node from the restored TSM server,
then I think making a special backup just to reduce the number of tapes
invalidates the DR test (at least for that specific objective), since it
does nothing to demonstrate that your regular backup processes are
adequate for restoring the client node in a disaster situation. For
example, if you are *not* currently collocating, then doing a test with
your non-collocated tapes might help make the case for collocation if the
restore time is not satisfactory.

So... if you want to restore just a small handful of files to validate the
restored TSM server is working, then why not just bring one or two of the
existing tapes with you (that are known to contain at least one or two
complete files without spanning to other volumes) and restore those files
as a quick test?

If you want a rigged restore, then my other idea should also work: use a
new node name, which will automatically get a full backup. You can define
the node in a new (test) domain, and create a special tape storage pool
for this test node. Define a management class that puts all this node's
data in the new storage pool, then run a backup. The result will be a
small (or smallest possible) set of tapes in the test storage pool that
you can take with you. Of course, you'll want to then make sure that you
bring  a TSM server database backup with you that was made *after* this
special client backup was made.

The idea of using a scheduled SELECTIVE command against the / file system
only works if / is the *only* file system; otherwise you'd need to
enumerate all the file systems that are on this client. And you'dl have to
also use the -subdir=yes option.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
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David_Zarnoch/HOM/[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 2005-11-28 16:39:26:

> Andrew,
>
> Thanks!
>
> We're just trying to validate that we can get the TSM server and two
other
> nodes up and running. Not a client test.
> We will actually be at a registered DR site (IBM) with dedicated
> equipment for us.
> Your solution sounds good although it does sound a bit complicated.
> Are you assuming that we are using our production TSM system?
> We will have a completely different system in a remote site.
> Knowing that, is the solution you suggest be the only way to limit the
amount
> of tapes?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Dave Zarnoch
> Nationwide Provident
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> W 302-452-4197
> C 302-462-8703
>
> Andrew Raibeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" 
> 11/28/2005 11:40 AM MST
> Please respond to storman
>
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> cc:
> bcc:
> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Full backup?
>

> It's only "cheating" if the objective of this DR test is not to validate
> your current client backup process.
>
> If it *is* intended to test your client backup procedures, then yes, it
is
> cheating on a far larger scale than just limiting the number of tapes
you
> bring with you, since you avoid testing with the real data that you
would
> actually have at the time of a real disaster, and therefore won't find
any
> issues that might fall out had you had the real set of tapes. You also
> don't get your money's worth for the cost of the test. (Obviously) I do
> not recommend this course of action.   :-)
>
> But if you must, then it might be easier to just register a new node and
> make a full incremental

Re: TDP for Oracle and Backup Set Creation

2005-11-28 Thread Steven Harris
Muthu

You can generate a backupset for TDP data, but you can't restore from it.

Use export instead.

Regards

Steve

Steve Harris
AIX and TSM Admin
Brisbane Australia


> -Original Message-
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Muthukumar Kannaiyan
> Sent: Tuesday, 29 November 2005 8:30 AM
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: [ADSM-L] TDP for Oracle and Backup Set Creation
>
>
> We are planning to create backup set for a node which usesTDP
> for Oracle. How does TSM will generate backup set for this
> node?. Is it possible to create?. If so, is there a procedure
> to recover from this backup?
>
> TIA
> Muthu
>
>
>


TDP for Oracle and Backup Set Creation

2005-11-28 Thread Muthukumar Kannaiyan
We are planning to create backup set for a node which usesTDP for Oracle. How
does TSM will generate backup set for this node?. Is it possible to create?. If
so, is there a procedure to recover from this backup?

TIA
Muthu


Re: TSM Bmr ??

2005-11-28 Thread Barnhart, Troy
http://www.cristie.co.uk

$995 per server - Retail.  (You can get it a cheaper...)

I also agree on the merits of the TSM+ASR Redbook...

We've had success with both methods.

Troy

-Original Message-
From: Tim Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 2:53 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM Bmr ??


do you have the link for cristies bmr, and how much
is it

tim

- Original Message -
From: "Barnhart, Troy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ??


I'm a big fan of the Cristie's BMR for Windows and RedHat Linux.

They are pretty slick.  I can restore a box from scratch in under 10
minutes.

My only caveat for "dislike hardware" restores is using newer hardware.
i.e. their driver support for older hardware.

We had problems getting older drivers to work correctly - such as old "HP
LH3 Netservers."

But, with our newer IBM xSeries - very smooth...

Regards,
Troy

Troy Barnhart, Sr. Systems Programmer,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Rapid City Regional Hospital,
Rapid City, South Dakota, 57701
ph: 605-719-8068 / fax: 605-719-4206


- Original Message -
From: "Prather, Wanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ??


What I meant was, to a different TYPE machine, i.e., disklike hardware,
not just a different machine.

The Christie Bare Metal add-on product supports restoring Windows to
unlike hardware.

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Tim Brown
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 4:04 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ??


you said that windows does not support restoring a registry to
a different machine, but isnt that what happens when i follow
the instructions in the "Disaster Recovery Strategies with TSM"
pdf.

is tsm ever going to support restoring to dislike hardware ?

tim
- Original Message -
From: "Prather, Wanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ??


http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;249694

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Tim Brown
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:37 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ??


is there documentation that describes the differences
between "the same machine after a hard drive
failure" and  "restoring to different hardware at a hot site"

i am attempting the later

tim
- Original Message -
From: "Prather, Wanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ??


IT's not a TSM issue, it's a Windows issue.
Microsoft does not support restoring a registry to a different machine.

That being said, they used to have a procedure in the knowledge base
that you can try.
Check there.

How you test BMR, depends on what you are trying to do.
You need different procedures for different possible disasters;

Procedures needed to restore back to the same machine after a hard drive
failure, are simpler than the case where you are restoring to different
hardware at a hot site.




-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Tim Brown
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:25 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: TSM Bmr ??


Is there still a requirement to restore a TSM client to the same server
hardware type. Can the restored
server be somewhat different.

How does everyone else test the TSM BMR procedures.

Tm Brown
Systems Specialist
Central Hudson Gas & Electric
284 South Ave
Poughkeepsie, NY 12601
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: 845-486-5643
Fax: 845-486-5921
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Re: TSM Bmr ??

2005-11-28 Thread Richard Sims

On Nov 28, 2005, at 3:37 PM, Tim Brown wrote:


is there documentation that describes the differences
between "the same machine after a hard drive
failure" and  "restoring to different hardware at a hot site"

i am attempting the later


Tim - If you haven't already, look into the bare metal restore
  capabilities of TSM + ASR, provided starting in 5.2.
(IBM Software Announcement 203-095 summarizes 5.2 stuff.)
"Windows ASR hardware requirements" in the Windows client manual
will give you a sense of what can be done in that context.

Richard Sims


Re: TSM Bmr ??

2005-11-28 Thread Tim Brown

do you have the link for cristies bmr, and how much
is it

tim

- Original Message -
From: "Barnhart, Troy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ??


I'm a big fan of the Cristie's BMR for Windows and RedHat Linux.

They are pretty slick.  I can restore a box from scratch in under 10
minutes.

My only caveat for "dislike hardware" restores is using newer hardware.
i.e. their driver support for older hardware.

We had problems getting older drivers to work correctly - such as old "HP
LH3 Netservers."

But, with our newer IBM xSeries - very smooth...

Regards,
Troy

Troy Barnhart, Sr. Systems Programmer,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Rapid City Regional Hospital,
Rapid City, South Dakota, 57701
ph: 605-719-8068 / fax: 605-719-4206


- Original Message -
From: "Prather, Wanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ??


What I meant was, to a different TYPE machine, i.e., disklike hardware,
not just a different machine.

The Christie Bare Metal add-on product supports restoring Windows to
unlike hardware.

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Tim Brown
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 4:04 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ??


you said that windows does not support restoring a registry to
a different machine, but isnt that what happens when i follow
the instructions in the "Disaster Recovery Strategies with TSM"
pdf.

is tsm ever going to support restoring to dislike hardware ?

tim
- Original Message -
From: "Prather, Wanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ??


http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;249694

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Tim Brown
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:37 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ??


is there documentation that describes the differences
between "the same machine after a hard drive
failure" and  "restoring to different hardware at a hot site"

i am attempting the later

tim
- Original Message -
From: "Prather, Wanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ??


IT's not a TSM issue, it's a Windows issue.
Microsoft does not support restoring a registry to a different machine.

That being said, they used to have a procedure in the knowledge base
that you can try.
Check there.

How you test BMR, depends on what you are trying to do.
You need different procedures for different possible disasters;

Procedures needed to restore back to the same machine after a hard drive
failure, are simpler than the case where you are restoring to different
hardware at a hot site.




-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Tim Brown
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:25 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: TSM Bmr ??


Is there still a requirement to restore a TSM client to the same server
hardware type. Can the restored
server be somewhat different.

How does everyone else test the TSM BMR procedures.

Tm Brown
Systems Specialist
Central Hudson Gas & Electric
284 South Ave
Poughkeepsie, NY 12601
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: 845-486-5643
Fax: 845-486-5921
.

***Note: The information contained in this message, including any
attachments, may be privileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure.
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Re: TSM Bmr ??

2005-11-28 Thread Barnhart, Troy
I'm a big fan of the Cristie's BMR for Windows and RedHat Linux.

They are pretty slick.  I can restore a box from scratch in under 10 minutes.

My only caveat for "dislike hardware" restores is using newer hardware.  
i.e. their driver support for older hardware.

We had problems getting older drivers to work correctly - such as old "HP LH3 
Netservers."

But, with our newer IBM xSeries - very smooth...

Regards,
Troy

Troy Barnhart, Sr. Systems Programmer,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Rapid City Regional Hospital,
Rapid City, South Dakota, 57701 
ph: 605-719-8068 / fax: 605-719-4206


- Original Message -
From: "Prather, Wanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ??


What I meant was, to a different TYPE machine, i.e., disklike hardware,
not just a different machine.

The Christie Bare Metal add-on product supports restoring Windows to
unlike hardware.

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Tim Brown
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 4:04 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ??


you said that windows does not support restoring a registry to
a different machine, but isnt that what happens when i follow
the instructions in the "Disaster Recovery Strategies with TSM"
pdf.

is tsm ever going to support restoring to dislike hardware ?

tim
- Original Message -
From: "Prather, Wanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ??


http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;249694

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Tim Brown
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:37 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ??


is there documentation that describes the differences
between "the same machine after a hard drive
failure" and  "restoring to different hardware at a hot site"

i am attempting the later

tim
- Original Message -
From: "Prather, Wanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ??


IT's not a TSM issue, it's a Windows issue.
Microsoft does not support restoring a registry to a different machine.

That being said, they used to have a procedure in the knowledge base
that you can try.
Check there.

How you test BMR, depends on what you are trying to do.
You need different procedures for different possible disasters;

Procedures needed to restore back to the same machine after a hard drive
failure, are simpler than the case where you are restoring to different
hardware at a hot site.




-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Tim Brown
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:25 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: TSM Bmr ??


Is there still a requirement to restore a TSM client to the same server
hardware type. Can the restored
server be somewhat different.

How does everyone else test the TSM BMR procedures.

Tm Brown
Systems Specialist
Central Hudson Gas & Electric
284 South Ave
Poughkeepsie, NY 12601
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: 845-486-5643
Fax: 845-486-5921
.

***Note: The information contained in this message, including any attachments, 
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Re: TSM Bmr ??

2005-11-28 Thread Tim Brown

thanks !!


- Original Message -
From: "Prather, Wanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ??


What I meant was, to a different TYPE machine, i.e., disklike hardware,
not just a different machine.

The Christie Bare Metal add-on product supports restoring Windows to
unlike hardware.

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Tim Brown
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 4:04 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ??


you said that windows does not support restoring a registry to
a different machine, but isnt that what happens when i follow
the instructions in the "Disaster Recovery Strategies with TSM"
pdf.

is tsm ever going to support restoring to dislike hardware ?

tim
- Original Message -
From: "Prather, Wanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ??


http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;249694

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Tim Brown
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:37 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ??


is there documentation that describes the differences
between "the same machine after a hard drive
failure" and  "restoring to different hardware at a hot site"

i am attempting the later

tim
- Original Message -
From: "Prather, Wanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ??


IT's not a TSM issue, it's a Windows issue.
Microsoft does not support restoring a registry to a different machine.

That being said, they used to have a procedure in the knowledge base
that you can try.
Check there.

How you test BMR, depends on what you are trying to do.
You need different procedures for different possible disasters;

Procedures needed to restore back to the same machine after a hard drive
failure, are simpler than the case where you are restoring to different
hardware at a hot site.




-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Tim Brown
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:25 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: TSM Bmr ??


Is there still a requirement to restore a TSM client to the same server
hardware type. Can the restored
server be somewhat different.

How does everyone else test the TSM BMR procedures.

Tm Brown
Systems Specialist
Central Hudson Gas & Electric
284 South Ave
Poughkeepsie, NY 12601
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: 845-486-5643
Fax: 845-486-5921
.


Re: TSM Bmr ??

2005-11-28 Thread Prather, Wanda
What I meant was, to a different TYPE machine, i.e., disklike hardware,
not just a different machine.

The Christie Bare Metal add-on product supports restoring Windows to
unlike hardware.

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Tim Brown
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 4:04 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ??


you said that windows does not support restoring a registry to
a different machine, but isnt that what happens when i follow
the instructions in the "Disaster Recovery Strategies with TSM"
pdf.

is tsm ever going to support restoring to dislike hardware ?

tim
- Original Message -
From: "Prather, Wanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ??


http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;249694

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Tim Brown
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:37 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ??


is there documentation that describes the differences
between "the same machine after a hard drive
failure" and  "restoring to different hardware at a hot site"

i am attempting the later

tim
- Original Message -
From: "Prather, Wanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ??


IT's not a TSM issue, it's a Windows issue.
Microsoft does not support restoring a registry to a different machine.

That being said, they used to have a procedure in the knowledge base
that you can try.
Check there.

How you test BMR, depends on what you are trying to do.
You need different procedures for different possible disasters;

Procedures needed to restore back to the same machine after a hard drive
failure, are simpler than the case where you are restoring to different
hardware at a hot site.




-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Tim Brown
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:25 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: TSM Bmr ??


Is there still a requirement to restore a TSM client to the same server
hardware type. Can the restored
server be somewhat different.

How does everyone else test the TSM BMR procedures.

Tm Brown
Systems Specialist
Central Hudson Gas & Electric
284 South Ave
Poughkeepsie, NY 12601
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: 845-486-5643
Fax: 845-486-5921
.


Re: TSM Bmr ??

2005-11-28 Thread Tim Brown

you said that windows does not support restoring a registry to
a different machine, but isnt that what happens when i follow
the instructions in the "Disaster Recovery Strategies with TSM"
pdf.

is tsm ever going to support restoring to dislike hardware ?

tim
- Original Message -
From: "Prather, Wanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ??


http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;249694

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Tim Brown
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:37 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ??


is there documentation that describes the differences
between "the same machine after a hard drive
failure" and  "restoring to different hardware at a hot site"

i am attempting the later

tim
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From: "Prather, Wanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ??


IT's not a TSM issue, it's a Windows issue.
Microsoft does not support restoring a registry to a different machine.

That being said, they used to have a procedure in the knowledge base
that you can try.
Check there.

How you test BMR, depends on what you are trying to do.
You need different procedures for different possible disasters;

Procedures needed to restore back to the same machine after a hard drive
failure, are simpler than the case where you are restoring to different
hardware at a hot site.




-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Tim Brown
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:25 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: TSM Bmr ??


Is there still a requirement to restore a TSM client to the same server
hardware type. Can the restored
server be somewhat different.

How does everyone else test the TSM BMR procedures.

Tm Brown
Systems Specialist
Central Hudson Gas & Electric
284 South Ave
Poughkeepsie, NY 12601
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: 845-486-5643
Fax: 845-486-5921
.


Re: TSM Bmr ??

2005-11-28 Thread Prather, Wanda
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;249694

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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Tim Brown
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:37 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ??


is there documentation that describes the differences
between "the same machine after a hard drive
failure" and  "restoring to different hardware at a hot site"

i am attempting the later

tim
- Original Message -
From: "Prather, Wanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ??


IT's not a TSM issue, it's a Windows issue.
Microsoft does not support restoring a registry to a different machine.

That being said, they used to have a procedure in the knowledge base
that you can try.
Check there.

How you test BMR, depends on what you are trying to do.
You need different procedures for different possible disasters;

Procedures needed to restore back to the same machine after a hard drive
failure, are simpler than the case where you are restoring to different
hardware at a hot site.




-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Tim Brown
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:25 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: TSM Bmr ??


Is there still a requirement to restore a TSM client to the same server
hardware type. Can the restored
server be somewhat different.

How does everyone else test the TSM BMR procedures.

Tm Brown
Systems Specialist
Central Hudson Gas & Electric
284 South Ave
Poughkeepsie, NY 12601
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: 845-486-5643
Fax: 845-486-5921
.


Re: TSM Bmr ??

2005-11-28 Thread Tim Brown

is there documentation that describes the differences
between "the same machine after a hard drive
failure" and  "restoring to different hardware at a hot site"

i am attempting the later

tim
- Original Message -
From: "Prather, Wanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ??


IT's not a TSM issue, it's a Windows issue.
Microsoft does not support restoring a registry to a different machine.

That being said, they used to have a procedure in the knowledge base
that you can try.
Check there.

How you test BMR, depends on what you are trying to do.
You need different procedures for different possible disasters;

Procedures needed to restore back to the same machine after a hard drive
failure, are simpler than the case where you are restoring to different
hardware at a hot site.




-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Tim Brown
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:25 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: TSM Bmr ??


Is there still a requirement to restore a TSM client to the same server
hardware type. Can the restored
server be somewhat different.

How does everyone else test the TSM BMR procedures.

Tm Brown
Systems Specialist
Central Hudson Gas & Electric
284 South Ave
Poughkeepsie, NY 12601
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: 845-486-5643
Fax: 845-486-5921
.


Re: TSM Bmr ??

2005-11-28 Thread Prather, Wanda
IT's not a TSM issue, it's a Windows issue.
Microsoft does not support restoring a registry to a different machine.

That being said, they used to have a procedure in the knowledge base
that you can try.
Check there.

How you test BMR, depends on what you are trying to do.
You need different procedures for different possible disasters; 

Procedures needed to restore back to the same machine after a hard drive
failure, are simpler than the case where you are restoring to different
hardware at a hot site.

 


-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Tim Brown
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:25 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: TSM Bmr ??


Is there still a requirement to restore a TSM client to the same server
hardware type. Can the restored
server be somewhat different.

How does everyone else test the TSM BMR procedures.

Tm Brown
Systems Specialist
Central Hudson Gas & Electric
284 South Ave
Poughkeepsie, NY 12601
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: 845-486-5643
Fax: 845-486-5921
.


Re: windows 2000 restore problem

2005-11-28 Thread Sung Y Lee
Hi, here's some information regarding restore for Windows 2000.
I am not sure if this is related  but just providing you the information
that might be helpful in PD your issue.

http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21164812


Sung Y. Lee

"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"  wrote on 11/28/2005
02:38:40 PM:

> I was resinstalling a Windows 2000 server for disaster testing and it
wont
> reboot after reload. I was following the instrutions found in the
> pdf  "Disaster
> Recovery Strategies with TSM"
>
> I successfully restored the C: drive and System object, I then choose to
> reboot and Windows doesnt start and gets the message
>
> Windows 2000 could not start because the following file is missing or
corrupt:
> \system32\ntoskrnl.exe
> Please re-install a copy of the above file.
>
> Has anyone seen this before with a TSM restore, Both client and server
are
> running TSM 5.2.3. Windows server is 2000 with SP4.
>
> I did get a popup before I rebooted stating that some Windows files had
gotten
> replaced and it need the install CD. I figured that I could ignore
> that since I
> was doing a full replace anyway.
>
> Tim Brown
> Systems Specialist
> Central Hudson Gas & Electric
> 284 South Ave
> Poughkeepsie, NY 12601
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Phone: 845-486-5643
> Fax: 845-486-5921


TSM Bmr ??

2005-11-28 Thread Tim Brown
Is there still a requirement to restore a TSM client to the same server 
hardware type. Can the restored
server be somewhat different.

How does everyone else test the TSM BMR procedures.

Tm Brown
Systems Specialist
Central Hudson Gas & Electric
284 South Ave
Poughkeepsie, NY 12601
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: 845-486-5643
Fax: 845-486-5921
.


Re: TSM Journal Service communication failure

2005-11-28 Thread Richard Sims

Uwe -

Those messages are helpful...
Windows error 233 is ERROR_PIPE_NOT_CONNECTED, which says
  "No process is on the other end of the pipe".
Assuming that the dsmerror.log message was written by the B/A client,
it means that the Journal Service disappeared (died).  Perhaps the
Windows Event Log tells why (possibly a space issue?).  In any case,
restart it, and keep an eye on it to see if it consistently fails
under similar conditions.

   Richard Sims, not a Windows expert

On Nov 28, 2005, at 2:37 PM, Uwe Koch wrote:


Hello Richard,

thanks for the fast answer. But in the dsmerror.log only these entries
appear very fast repeating :
...
11/25/2005 18:34:08 win32NpWrite(): Error 233 writing to named pipe
11/25/2005 18:34:08 win32NpWrite(): Error 233 writing to named pipe
11/25/2005 18:34:08 win32NpWrite(): Error 233 writing to named pipe
...

I just don't know what this means. Is there a TSM config setting or a
windows registry parameter to avoid this ?


Life should have an EncounterNoProblems option, but...


AW: [ADSM-L] Backup of node onto how which volumes from last night's backup ?

2005-11-28 Thread Thomas Rupp
I do it this way:
First get a list of tapes used by yesterdays backup. Then run a second 
script for every tape. That's much faster.

Skript 1: (Gives a list of tapes used for primary stgpools)
select volume_name as Volume,last_write_date - 
from volumes where - 
last_write_date > timestamp(date(current_date-1 day),'19:00:00') and -
last_write_date < timestamp(date(current_date),'10:00:00') and -
stgpool_name in ('TAPEPOOL','TAPEPOOL2','TAPE_TDP')

Skript 2: (Gives a list with nodename, filespacename, number of files
and amount of backed up data)
select node_name as Node, -
filespace_name as Filespace,-
count(file_name) as Files,-
sum(file_size) as Size -
from contents -
where volume_name='$1' -
group by node_name, filespace_name -
order by files desc

HTH
Thomas Rupp

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Richard 
Mochnaczewski
Gesendet: Montag, 28. November 2005 19:43
An: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Betreff: [ADSM-L] Backup of node onto how which volumes from last night's 
backup ?


Hi Everybody,

Does anyone have an SQL to check what tape volumes were used by a specific node 
backup that ran between 6:00 PM and 1:00 AM the previous night ? Can it be 
naroowed down to a filespace name ?

Rich


Re: TSM Journal Service communication failure

2005-11-28 Thread Uwe Koch
Hello Richard,

thanks for the fast answer. But in the dsmerror.log only these entries
appear very fast repeating :
...
11/25/2005 18:34:08 win32NpWrite(): Error 233 writing to named pipe
11/25/2005 18:34:08 win32NpWrite(): Error 233 writing to named pipe
11/25/2005 18:34:08 win32NpWrite(): Error 233 writing to named pipe
...

I just don't know what this means. Is there a TSM config setting or a
windows registry parameter to avoid this ?


  Mit freundlichen Grüßen

 With best regards

 Uwe Koch

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I could only advise looking for errors in the dsmerror.log.
The backup client interacts with the Journal Service via a Named Pipe,
and problems there could cause a communication failure - which should
be reflected in the error log.

Richard Sims

On Nov 28, 2005, at 9:36 AM, Uwe Koch wrote:

> Hello,
>
> we are running TSM BA Client 5.3.0.5 on several Windows 2003 SP1
> machines.
> It runs fine for several days but then there is a "ANS1181E
> Communication
> failure with the journal service" which causes the
> Scheduler service to hang and no more backups are done.
>
> Has anyone an idea about the reason of this failure ?
>
>   Mit freundlichen Grüßen
>
>  With best regards
>
>  Uwe Koch
>
> Dipl.-Ing.
> Nachrichtentechnik
>
>Server Administrator
>
>
>
>
>
>  IBM Business Services GmbH
>
>  Office  ABB  Home
>
>  Phone   +49 2351 956-1670+49 2357 171227
>
>  Fax +49 2351 956-9670+49 2357 903321
>
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>
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>



windows 2000 restore problem

2005-11-28 Thread Tim Brown
I was resinstalling a Windows 2000 server for disaster testing and it wont
reboot after reload. I was following the instrutions found in the pdf  "Disaster
Recovery Strategies with TSM"

I successfully restored the C: drive and System object, I then choose to
reboot and Windows doesnt start and gets the message

Windows 2000 could not start because the following file is missing or corrupt:
\system32\ntoskrnl.exe
Please re-install a copy of the above file.

Has anyone seen this before with a TSM restore, Both client and server are
running TSM 5.2.3. Windows server is 2000 with SP4.

I did get a popup before I rebooted stating that some Windows files had gotten
replaced and it need the install CD. I figured that I could ignore that since I 
was doing a full replace anyway.

Tim Brown
Systems Specialist
Central Hudson Gas & Electric
284 South Ave
Poughkeepsie, NY 12601
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: 845-486-5643
Fax: 845-486-5921


Re: Full backup?

2005-11-28 Thread David E Ehresman
If you have too many tapes for a DR test you have too many tapes for a
disaster! Consider collocation of your offsite tapes.

David

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/28/05 1:18 PM >>>
Probably a FAQ, but...

We are planning a DR this weekend and I would like to limit the number
of tapes we bring by getting a full backup of the system (Level 0)
(I knowcheatercheater)

Do I just modify the GUI settings from incremental to selective?

Then, in the "file space" just put in "/"

Sounds too simple.

Thanks!


Dave Zarnoch
Nationwide Provident
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
W 302-452-4197
C  302-462-8703


Backup of node onto how which volumes from last night's backup ?

2005-11-28 Thread Richard Mochnaczewski
Hi Everybody,

Does anyone have an SQL to check what tape volumes were used by a specific node 
backup that ran between 6:00 PM and 1:00 AM the previous night ? Can it be 
naroowed down to a filespace name ?

Rich


Re: Full backup?

2005-11-28 Thread Andrew Raibeck
It's only "cheating" if the objective of this DR test is not to validate
your current client backup process.

If it *is* intended to test your client backup procedures, then yes, it is
cheating on a far larger scale than just limiting the number of tapes you
bring with you, since you avoid testing with the real data that you would
actually have at the time of a real disaster, and therefore won't find any
issues that might fall out had you had the real set of tapes. You also
don't get your money's worth for the cost of the test. (Obviously) I do
not recommend this course of action.   :-)

But if you must, then it might be easier to just register a new node and
make a full incremental backup of that node.

I haven't worked it out in full detail, but a compromise would go
something like this: create a new disk storage pool, and use MOVE NODEDATA
to move the test node's data to that pool. Then create a new copy storage
pool, and back up the disk pool to it. You can then migrate the data from
the new disk pool back to the regular tape pool, then delete the new disk
pool. Likewise, after you've completed your DR test, you can delete the
new copy storage pool and its volumes. Your DR test won't use the original
set of tapes that it would use in a real DR test, but at least the backup
data would be the same as what you would have in a real DR scenario.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page:
http://www-306.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
"Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.

"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"  wrote on 2005-11-28
11:18:07:

> Probably a FAQ, but...
>
> We are planning a DR this weekend and I would like to limit the number
> of tapes we bring by getting a full backup of the system (Level 0)
> (I knowcheatercheater)
>
> Do I just modify the GUI settings from incremental to selective?
>
> Then, in the "file space" just put in "/"
>
> Sounds too simple.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> Dave Zarnoch
> Nationwide Provident
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> W 302-452-4197
> C  302-462-8703


Full backup?

2005-11-28 Thread Dave Zarnoch
Probably a FAQ, but...

We are planning a DR this weekend and I would like to limit the number
of tapes we bring by getting a full backup of the system (Level 0)
(I knowcheatercheater)

Do I just modify the GUI settings from incremental to selective?

Then, in the "file space" just put in "/"

Sounds too simple.

Thanks!


Dave Zarnoch
Nationwide Provident
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
W 302-452-4197
C  302-462-8703


Re: SQL select for file size

2005-11-28 Thread Andrew Raibeck
But why do the volume names need to be known at all?

Why not just do:

select node_name,filespace_name,file_name,file_size from contents

But yes, if the file is part of an aggregate, you'll get the aggregate
size, which would be misleading.

I don't think there is a very good way to do this. Another avenue to
consider would be just get file counts from the BACKUPS table, then
multiply some average size value, say, like 3 - 5 MB for a typical song.
It's only a rough idea, but then if the objective is to determine who the
biggest users of these files are, the file counts should give an
indication.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page:
http://www-306.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
"Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.

"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"  wrote on 2005-11-28
09:53:44:

> < size with>>
>
> How about this select to get the volume(s).. warning.. looks like a long
> query..
>
> select volume_name from contents where node_name='xxx' AND
> file_name='.xxx'
>
> Sung Y. Lee
>
> "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"  wrote on 11/25/2005
> 12:05:22 PM:
>
> > I know that this question has been addressed before, but I just want
to
> > check that the situation remains the same with the current releases,
> > or if anybody has come up with a cheeky workaround/better solution.
> >
> > I am looking for a relatively efficient way of finding out how much
data
> > in size is stored by TSM for certain files or file types (ie. .mp3
.wav
> > .avi )
> >
> > I can get a list of the files with
> >
> > select ll_name,hl_name from backups where node_name='XXX' and
> > filespace_id=x and ll_name like'%.MP3%'
> >
> > If I know what volumes the node/filespace resides on, I can get the
file
> > size with
> >
> > select node_name,filespace_name,file_name,file_size from contents
where
> > volume_name='XXX'
> >
> > Is the file size accurate or is it the size of the aggregate that the
> > file is contained within ? (They all seem a little too rounded for my
> > liking)
> >
> > Also, this is not particularly easy in a non-colocated environment.
> >
> > So, is listing the volumes that the node/filespace is
stored
> > on and then selecting from the contents of this list of volumes the
only
> > way.
> > And, even if this is scripted, is it accurate or is it just the size
of
> > the aggregates.
> >
> > Knowing that the GUI will list the filesize but it doesn't seem
readily
> > available from SQL queries is truly a Friday afternoon annoyance.
> >
> > Leigh


Re: Space Reclamation Eating Tapes

2005-11-28 Thread Richard Sims

On Nov 28, 2005, at 11:42 AM, Sung Y Lee wrote:


It has been my experience that, if  primary tape pool maxscratch
value is
set greater than tapes used when reclamation kicks off, it mounts a
brand
new scratch tapes. ...


I've never seen that behavior - that would result in a large number
of tapes in Filling state, and that does not happen. TSM requests a
fresh tape when the would-be candidate filling tape is in an unusable
state (as from previous tape errors) or that volume is in use
(current output volume or being dismounted). If a TSM instance was
always calling for new volumes, that would constitute a violation of
its design, and should be reported as a defect.

In any case, this thread is largely proceeding without substantive
information. We need to see the results of analyses which examined
tape states, Activity Log, and volume contents.

   Richard Sims


Re: 3592 Tape Compression

2005-11-28 Thread Prather, Wanda
If any of your clients have compression on, the data is compressed
before sending to the TSM server.
When TSM sends it out to the tape drive, it cannot be compressed again
(or by very little).
This is true of any type of compression, with any type of drive.

If you have a mixture of clients compressing & not compressing, there is
simply no way to calculate your true compression ratio on the drives.

The only way you can calculate is to set up a controlled test, where you
are sure none of the client data is compressed.
But as others have mentioned, the compression ratio is very dependent on
the type of data.

Wanda Prather
"I/O, I/O, It's all about I/O"  -(me)


-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Volker Maibaum
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 7:43 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: 3592 Tape Compression


Thanks for the answers!
I already assumed that drive compression was on... But I find it a bit
disappointing that the compression ratio is that poor (only 1,4:1). When
you look at the data sheets for 3592 drives they always talk about 3:1
data compression.

Volker

Am Montag, den 28.11.2005, 07:15 -0500 schrieb Richard Sims:
> augment


Re: SQL select for file size

2005-11-28 Thread Sung Y Lee
<>

How about this select to get the volume(s).. warning.. looks like a long
query..

select volume_name from contents where node_name='xxx' AND
file_name='.xxx'

Sung Y. Lee

"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"  wrote on 11/25/2005
12:05:22 PM:

> I know that this question has been addressed before, but I just want to
> check that the situation remains the same with the current releases,
> or if anybody has come up with a cheeky workaround/better solution.
>
> I am looking for a relatively efficient way of finding out how much data
> in size is stored by TSM for certain files or file types (ie. .mp3 .wav
> .avi )
>
> I can get a list of the files with
>
> select ll_name,hl_name from backups where node_name='XXX' and
> filespace_id=x and ll_name like'%.MP3%'
>
> If I know what volumes the node/filespace resides on, I can get the file
> size with
>
> select node_name,filespace_name,file_name,file_size from contents where
> volume_name='XXX'
>
> Is the file size accurate or is it the size of the aggregate that the
> file is contained within ? (They all seem a little too rounded for my
> liking)
>
> Also, this is not particularly easy in a non-colocated environment.
>
> So, is listing the volumes that the node/filespace is stored
> on and then selecting from the contents of this list of volumes the only
> way.
> And, even if this is scripted, is it accurate or is it just the size of
> the aggregates.
>
> Knowing that the GUI will list the filesize but it doesn't seem readily
> available from SQL queries is truly a Friday afternoon annoyance.
>
> Leigh


Re: Space Reclamation Eating Tapes

2005-11-28 Thread Sung Y Lee
It has been my experience that, if  primary tape pool maxscratch value is
set greater than tapes used when reclamation kicks off, it mounts a brand
new scratch tapes.  I suspect that there is some logical reason how tapes
are reclaimed ... such as why not taking already used tape.  However I have
had success  by lowering the maxscratch count less than tapes used will
allow TSM not to use new scratch tapes but use already used tapes.

Now, if one is using collocation, I tried to think of a reason why one
would starting reclamation.  My experience shows that since any gain of
tapes by performing  reclamation of collocation pool is short lived because
TSM will shortly attempt to use new scratch tapes.

Sung Y. Lee


"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"  wrote on 11/28/2005
09:21:45 AM:

> I recently migrated our Windows 2K3 TSM server from 5.2.1.3 to 5.3.2.0
> and since then, it seems that whenever I kick off space reclamation for
> my primary tape storage pools, it eats up scratch tapes, instead of
> freeing them up.  Is there a reason for this?  I understand that
> occasionally TSM will need a scratch tape to combine other tapes, but it
> should then free those other tapes up and return them to the scratch
> pool.  I've checked the reuse delay on the storage pools, and they are
> set to 0, so I know that isn't the problem.
>
>
> Mel Dennis

Re: Multiple schedulers for same node name

2005-11-28 Thread Andrew Raibeck
-OPTFILE can only be specified when launching the client executable; it
cannot be specified as an option when the client is already running.

Why not simply define two schedules: one whose OBJECTS field indicates the
C: drive, and another whose OBJECTS file indicates the D: drive?

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page:
http://www-306.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
"Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.

"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"  wrote on 2005-11-25
06:20:14:

> Dear All,
> On windows 2000 client running TSM 5.3 client, how can i setup 2
> schedulers with same node name.
>
> Objective is to initiate separate backups for C drive and D drive
> using same node name. Also when i give -optfile=filename.opt in the
> options in the scheduled task, it says invalid option when the backup
starts.
>
> Regards,
> Sandra
>
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Re: 3592 Tape Compression

2005-11-28 Thread Ben Bullock
We have various types of data, some being very compressible (DB
dumps) and others are very much uncompressible (JPG files). So as in all
compression situations, "your mileage may vary" depending on the type of
the data. 

Here is an example of the 2 extremes of our data when it ends up
on 3592 drives with compression:

*
Non-compressible data. Getting about 300GB/tape:

tsm: TSMHOST3>q vol C10077 f=d

   Volume Name: C10077
 Storage Pool Name: X_TAPEPOOL
 Device Class Name: 3592DEV
   Estimated Capacity (MB): 297,763.1
  Pct Util: 100.0
 Volume Status: Full
Access: Read-Only
Pct. Reclaimable Space: 0.0
   Scratch Volume?: Yes
   In Error State?: No
  Number of Writable Sides: 1
   Number of Times Mounted: 16
 Write Pass Number: 1
 Approx. Date Last Written: 12/25/04   23:40:55
Approx. Date Last Read: 01/14/05   16:09:43
   Date Became Pending: 
Number of Write Errors: 0
 Number of Read Errors: 0
   Volume Location: Bldg26 rack
Volume is MVS Lanfree Capable : No
Last Update by (administrator): ADMIN
 Last Update Date/Time: 08/30/05   13:17:23

***
Some very compressible data. Got about 1.2TB on a tape:

 tsm: TSMSERV1A>q vol A10007 f=d

   Volume Name: A10007
 Storage Pool Name: X_TAPEPOOL
 Device Class Name: 3592DEV
   Estimated Capacity (MB): 1,334,463.3
  Pct Util: 38.1
 Volume Status: Full
Access: Read/Write
Pct. Reclaimable Space: 61.9
   Scratch Volume?: Yes
   In Error State?: No
  Number of Writable Sides: 1
   Number of Times Mounted: 65
 Write Pass Number: 1
 Approx. Date Last Written: 02/06/05   20:55:23
Approx. Date Last Read: 02/07/05   07:48:19
   Date Became Pending: 
Number of Write Errors: 0
 Number of Read Errors: 0
   Volume Location: 
Volume is MVS Lanfree Capable : No
Last Update by (administrator): 
 Last Update Date/Time: 12/07/04   10:04:19


Ben



-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Volker Maibaum
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 5:43 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: 3592 Tape Compression

Thanks for the answers!
I already assumed that drive compression was on... But I find it a bit
disappointing that the compression ratio is that poor (only 1,4:1). When
you look at the data sheets for 3592 drives they always talk about 3:1
data compression.

Volker

Am Montag, den 28.11.2005, 07:15 -0500 schrieb Richard Sims:
> augment


AdminOnClientPort No and enterprise command routing

2005-11-28 Thread Remco Post
Hi all,

on my test server I set AdminOnClientPort to No to be able to prevent
unauthorized access to the admin interface from client nodes. Now I
noticed that command routing for my central management host doesn't work
anymore.

Now I could set the lla for this test server to the admin port, but I
was wondering what would break if I did so? Also, I couln't find any
docs from IBM on how to properly set-up the 'entrerprise configureation'
when this option is set

--
Met vriendelijke groeten,

Remco Post

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Re: 6.1.0.9 dd & LTO3 in 3584LIB

2005-11-28 Thread Prather, Wanda
Just installed them on 5.2.6.3.
Aren't having any problems yet.
Did you use the new install procedure for the drivers? (run install.exe
instead of using Windows install).


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Large, M (Matthew)
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 10:03 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: 6.1.0.9 dd & LTO3 in 3584LIB


Hi Guys,

Is anybody using these devices and drivers? We're experiencing a few
problems and we want to know if anybody else has a similar environment.
TSM is 5.2.4.5 on W2K SP4

Thanks,
Matthew

TSM Consultant
ADMIN ITI
Rabobank International
1 Queenhithe, London
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6.1.0.9 dd & LTO3 in 3584LIB

2005-11-28 Thread Large, M (Matthew)
Hi Guys,

Is anybody using these devices and drivers? We're experiencing a few
problems and we want to know if anybody else has a similar environment.
TSM is 5.2.4.5 on W2K SP4

Thanks,
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Re: Space Reclamation Eating Tapes

2005-11-28 Thread Dennis Melburn W IT743
Such as? :) 


Mel Dennis
Systems Engineer - IT743
Siemens Power Generation
4400 Alafaya Trail
Orlando, FL 32826
MC Q1-110
Tel:  (407) 736-2360
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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Bos, Karel
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 9:53 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Space Reclamation Eating Tapes

Things have changed in 5.3.

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Dennis Melburn W IT743
Sent: maandag 28 november 2005 15:35
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Space Reclamation Eating Tapes

Don't think that is it, I only have 2 storage pools out of like 12 that
have collocation turned on (these storage pools are for large file
servers).  So collocation shouldn't be affecting most of them. 


Mel Dennis
Systems Engineer - IT743
Siemens Power Generation
4400 Alafaya Trail
Orlando, FL 32826
MC Q1-110
Tel:  (407) 736-2360
Win:  439-2360
Fax: (407) 736-5069
Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Bos, Karel
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 9:30 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Space Reclamation Eating Tapes

Sounds like a collocation problem. Q stg / q node / q collocgroup.
 
Regards,
Karel
-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Dennis Melburn W IT743
Sent: maandag 28 november 2005 15:22
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Space Reclamation Eating Tapes

I recently migrated our Windows 2K3 TSM server from 5.2.1.3 to 5.3.2.0
and since then, it seems that whenever I kick off space reclamation for
my primary tape storage pools, it eats up scratch tapes, instead of
freeing them up.  Is there a reason for this?  I understand that
occasionally TSM will need a scratch tape to combine other tapes, but it
should then free those other tapes up and return them to the scratch
pool.  I've checked the reuse delay on the storage pools, and they are
set to 0, so I know that isn't the problem.
 
 
Mel Dennis


Re: HP itanium and 64-bit support

2005-11-28 Thread Ruth Mitchell
Yiannakis,
Briefly, IA64 (Intel Architecture-64) is a  64-bit processor 
architecture jointly developed  by Intel and HP.
It is distinct from and not directly backward compatible with 
X86 architectures due to use of a different instruction set known as
EPIC. There's plenty of online reading material at 
the HP and Intel sites which I'd encourage you to check out,  
since this is kind of off-topic for this discussion list. The important
thing to note is that there are two different 64-bit hardware
architectures,
IA64 and X64. Be aware of this when selecting a 64-bit TSM client.

Others on the list may have different suggestions for your second
question,
but I can see two approaches. The first would be to install SQL Server
2000
and use the existing (and functioning) TDP SQL client for backups.
You can upgrade to SQL Server 2005 later. Or, install SQL Server 2005
and
use SQL's built-in backup capabilities, and then use a BA client to
backup
the flat files. Neither is optimal. You also may just want to call
Tivoli
support for assistance.

Hope this helps.

--Ruth Mitchell
  Cornell Theory Center

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Yiannakis Vakis
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 2:02 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] HP itanium and 64-bit support

Ruth hi,
First of all what is an IA64 ?
Then, if "IA64 support is not yet available due to Microsoft bug
#409794"
how do you manage to do a backup without problems ?
Regards
Yiannakis


Re: Point-in-time restore Notes database - solved

2005-11-28 Thread Kurt Beyers
The problem is solved and actually there wasn't any problem. It was found that 
the mail has been delivered later on then first was thought. And thus the 
point-in-time restore is doing it's job.
 
greetings,
Kurt



From: Kurt Beyers
Sent: Mon 28/11/2005 13:55
To: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager
Subject: Point-in-time restore Notes database


Hello,
 
I've got the following setup:
 
TSM server 5.3.2.0 on Windows 2003
 
Lotus Notes 6.5.2 fixpack 2 running on Windows NT with TSM BA client 5.1.7.3 
and TDP Notes 5.1.5.1
 
The backup scheme for the Notes server is:
 
selective backup on friday evening
incremental backup from monday evening till thursday evening
archive log backup every 4 hours if the treshold is greater than 80%
archive log backup at 04:00 AM without any treshold.
 
I've restore a Notes database from the selective backup without activating it.
 
I know that a mail was sent to the Notes database on 11/22 at 14:46. And as a 
transaction log backup ran at 11/23 at 04:00h, an entry for this mail must be 
found in the transaction logs.
 
I start then the point-in-time restore from the CLI with following command:
 
domdsmc activatedbs /applylogs=11/23/2005,06:00:00
 
The activatedbs ends with the following messages:
 
11/28/2005 01:45:24 PM  Recovery Manager: Media Recovery complete for 
D:\Notes\Data\mail\testdb.nsf.dad, last update applied 11/22/2005 02:02:06 AM.
 
How does it come that the last applied update is that old when you know that 
updates occured during the day and that an entry must be found in the 
transaction logs for it. The mail is of course not found.
 
If I recover a bit further in time, the mail will be found in the Notes 
database. But you have to gamble for the exact date and time untill when the 
activatedbs must occur. Or is there a bug in the PIT restore? Or am I missing 
something?
 
best regards,
Kurt
 
 
 
 


Re: Space Reclamation Eating Tapes

2005-11-28 Thread Bos, Karel
Things have changed in 5.3.

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Dennis Melburn W IT743
Sent: maandag 28 november 2005 15:35
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Space Reclamation Eating Tapes

Don't think that is it, I only have 2 storage pools out of like 12 that
have collocation turned on (these storage pools are for large file
servers).  So collocation shouldn't be affecting most of them. 


Mel Dennis
Systems Engineer - IT743
Siemens Power Generation
4400 Alafaya Trail
Orlando, FL 32826
MC Q1-110
Tel:  (407) 736-2360
Win:  439-2360
Fax: (407) 736-5069
Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Bos, Karel
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 9:30 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Space Reclamation Eating Tapes

Sounds like a collocation problem. Q stg / q node / q collocgroup.
 
Regards,
Karel
-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Dennis Melburn W IT743
Sent: maandag 28 november 2005 15:22
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Space Reclamation Eating Tapes

I recently migrated our Windows 2K3 TSM server from 5.2.1.3 to 5.3.2.0
and since then, it seems that whenever I kick off space reclamation for
my primary tape storage pools, it eats up scratch tapes, instead of
freeing them up.  Is there a reason for this?  I understand that
occasionally TSM will need a scratch tape to combine other tapes, but it
should then free those other tapes up and return them to the scratch
pool.  I've checked the reuse delay on the storage pools, and they are
set to 0, so I know that isn't the problem.
 
 
Mel Dennis


TSM Journal Service communication failure

2005-11-28 Thread Uwe Koch
Hello,

we are running TSM BA Client 5.3.0.5 on several Windows 2003 SP1 machines.
It runs fine for several days but then there is a "ANS1181E Communication
failure with the journal service" which causes the
Scheduler service to hang and no more backups are done.

Has anyone an idea about the reason of this failure ?

  Mit freundlichen Grüßen

 With best regards

 Uwe Koch

Dipl.-Ing.
Nachrichtentechnik

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Re: help:sysback restore failure

2005-11-28 Thread David E Ehresman
Check with Sysback support, but if memory serves me, that error was
fixed in a later patch of Sysback.

David

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/28/05 7:31 AM >>>
Hi all ,my Sysback server is AIX 5.3 ML 02,the Sysback client is AIX
5.3 ML 02,the sysback version is 5.6.6.1.Every time I wanted to restore
the client with the same error message like:could not find the boot
logical volume and  attempt to build a default boot logical volume,the
client LED code is 0c46.
What's wrong with it?the server OS version lower than the client OS
version?Thanks!


Re: Space Reclamation Eating Tapes

2005-11-28 Thread Dennis Melburn W IT743
Don't think that is it, I only have 2 storage pools out of like 12 that
have collocation turned on (these storage pools are for large file
servers).  So collocation shouldn't be affecting most of them. 


Mel Dennis
Systems Engineer - IT743
Siemens Power Generation
4400 Alafaya Trail
Orlando, FL 32826
MC Q1-110
Tel:  (407) 736-2360
Win:  439-2360
Fax: (407) 736-5069
Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Bos, Karel
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 9:30 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Space Reclamation Eating Tapes

Sounds like a collocation problem. Q stg / q node / q collocgroup.
 
Regards,
Karel
-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Dennis Melburn W IT743
Sent: maandag 28 november 2005 15:22
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Space Reclamation Eating Tapes

I recently migrated our Windows 2K3 TSM server from 5.2.1.3 to 5.3.2.0
and since then, it seems that whenever I kick off space reclamation for
my primary tape storage pools, it eats up scratch tapes, instead of
freeing them up.  Is there a reason for this?  I understand that
occasionally TSM will need a scratch tape to combine other tapes, but it
should then free those other tapes up and return them to the scratch
pool.  I've checked the reuse delay on the storage pools, and they are
set to 0, so I know that isn't the problem.
 
 
Mel Dennis


Re: 3592 Tape Compression

2005-11-28 Thread Allen S. Rout
==> On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 13:42:52 +0100, Volker Maibaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:


> Thanks for the answers!
> I already assumed that drive compression was on... But I find it a bit
> disappointing that the compression ratio is that poor (only 1,4:1). When
> you look at the data sheets for 3592 drives they always talk about 3:1
> data compression.


For TSM database stgpools, I get 4:1.  for DB2 full backups, I get ~7:1
Really, it's all over the map.


- Allen S. Rout


Re: Space Reclamation Eating Tapes

2005-11-28 Thread Bos, Karel
Sounds like a collocation problem. Q stg / q node / q collocgroup.
 
Regards,
Karel
-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Dennis Melburn W IT743
Sent: maandag 28 november 2005 15:22
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Space Reclamation Eating Tapes

I recently migrated our Windows 2K3 TSM server from 5.2.1.3 to 5.3.2.0
and since then, it seems that whenever I kick off space reclamation for
my primary tape storage pools, it eats up scratch tapes, instead of
freeing them up.  Is there a reason for this?  I understand that
occasionally TSM will need a scratch tape to combine other tapes, but it
should then free those other tapes up and return them to the scratch
pool.  I've checked the reuse delay on the storage pools, and they are
set to 0, so I know that isn't the problem.
 
 
Mel Dennis


Space Reclamation Eating Tapes

2005-11-28 Thread Dennis Melburn W IT743
I recently migrated our Windows 2K3 TSM server from 5.2.1.3 to 5.3.2.0
and since then, it seems that whenever I kick off space reclamation for
my primary tape storage pools, it eats up scratch tapes, instead of
freeing them up.  Is there a reason for this?  I understand that
occasionally TSM will need a scratch tape to combine other tapes, but it
should then free those other tapes up and return them to the scratch
pool.  I've checked the reuse delay on the storage pools, and they are
set to 0, so I know that isn't the problem.
 
 
Mel Dennis


Point-in-time restore Notes database

2005-11-28 Thread Kurt Beyers
Hello,
 
I've got the following setup:
 
TSM server 5.3.2.0 on Windows 2003
 
Lotus Notes 6.5.2 fixpack 2 running on Windows NT with TSM BA client 5.1.7.3 
and TDP Notes 5.1.5.1
 
The backup scheme for the Notes server is:
 
selective backup on friday evening
incremental backup from monday evening till thursday evening
archive log backup every 4 hours if the treshold is greater than 80%
archive log backup at 04:00 AM without any treshold.
 
I've restore a Notes database from the selective backup without activating it.
 
I know that a mail was sent to the Notes database on 11/22 at 14:46. And as a 
transaction log backup ran at 11/23 at 04:00h, an entry for this mail must be 
found in the transaction logs.
 
I start then the point-in-time restore from the CLI with following command:
 
domdsmc activatedbs /applylogs=11/23/2005,06:00:00
 
The activatedbs ends with the following messages:
 
11/28/2005 01:45:24 PM  Recovery Manager: Media Recovery complete for 
D:\Notes\Data\mail\testdb.nsf.dad, last update applied 11/22/2005 02:02:06 AM.
 
How does it come that the last applied update is that old when you know that 
updates occured during the day and that an entry must be found in the 
transaction logs for it. The mail is of course not found.
 
If I recover a bit further in time, the mail will be found in the Notes 
database. But you have to gamble for the exact date and time untill when the 
activatedbs must occur. Or is there a bug in the PIT restore? Or am I missing 
something?
 
best regards,
Kurt
 
 
 
 


Re: 3592 Tape Compression

2005-11-28 Thread Kurt Beyers
Volker,
 
True compression ratio is data-dependent. The more redundant information is 
found in files, the higher the ratio is For your data it is only '1,4'.
 
The marketing will always use the general assumptions (2:1 or 3:1) as laws of 
nature and forget that this isn't true.
 
best regards,
Kurt



From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager on behalf of Volker Maibaum
Sent: Mon 28/11/2005 13:42
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] 3592 Tape Compression



Thanks for the answers!
I already assumed that drive compression was on... But I find it a bit
disappointing that the compression ratio is that poor (only 1,4:1). When
you look at the data sheets for 3592 drives they always talk about 3:1
data compression.

Volker

Am Montag, den 28.11.2005, 07:15 -0500 schrieb Richard Sims:
> augment


Re: 3592 Tape Compression

2005-11-28 Thread Volker Maibaum
Thanks for the answers!
I already assumed that drive compression was on... But I find it a bit
disappointing that the compression ratio is that poor (only 1,4:1). When
you look at the data sheets for 3592 drives they always talk about 3:1
data compression.

Volker

Am Montag, den 28.11.2005, 07:15 -0500 schrieb Richard Sims:
> augment


help:sysback restore failure

2005-11-28 Thread liming
Hi all ,my Sysback server is AIX 5.3 ML 02,the Sysback client is AIX 5.3 ML 
02,the sysback version is 5.6.6.1.Every time I wanted to restore the client 
with the same error message like:could not find the boot logical volume and  
attempt to build a default boot logical volume,the client LED code is 0c46.
What's wrong with it?the server OS version lower than the client OS 
version?Thanks!

Re: Change / upadate tape path

2005-11-28 Thread Richard Sims

On Nov 28, 2005, at 7:22 AM, Richard Sims wrote:


On Nov 28, 2005, at 3:01 AM, Norita binti Hassan wrote:


Hi,
 I'm using TSM 5.2. How do I change my storage pool for server A from
stgpool A to stgpool B.


It's not clear what you're asking...

If you want to change the storage pool's name within the TSM
server, use REName STGpool.

In the context of TSM questions, "server" refers to the TSM
server.  If, instead, you mean a TSM client which is performing as
a server for things unrelated to TSM, then you can either update
the client's current Mgmtclass to define a new MIGDESTination


Too early in the morning... I meant to say   Update the backup copy
group associated with the management class.

Richard Sims


Re: Change / upadate tape path

2005-11-28 Thread Richard Sims

On Nov 28, 2005, at 3:01 AM, Norita binti Hassan wrote:


Hi,
 I'm using TSM 5.2. How do I change my storage pool for server A from
stgpool A to stgpool B.


It's not clear what you're asking...

If you want to change the storage pool's name within the TSM server,
use REName STGpool.

In the context of TSM questions, "server" refers to the TSM server.
If, instead, you mean a TSM client which is performing as a server
for things unrelated to TSM, then you can either update the client's
current Mgmtclass to define a new MIGDESTination (and reactivate the
policy set) or have the client use a different management class. This
subject matter is covered in the Admin Guide manual.

Richard Sims


Re: Change / upadate tape path

2005-11-28 Thread Warren, Matthew (Corp)
Hi,

You need to define a amnagment class with a copygroup that points to the
new storage pool, or update an existing managment class copygroup, the
parmaeter is 'copydestination'

Then, in the include/exclude list for serverA include the files you need
to go to storagepoolB to the new/updated managment class.

Alternatley, you can define a default managmnet class in a new domain,
and place the serverA node in that domain. As the managment class will
then be the default, you will not need an include statement in your
include/exclude list.


Matthew.

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-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Norita binti Hassan
Sent: 28 November 2005 08:02
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Change / upadate tape path


Hi,
 I'm using TSM 5.2. How do I change my storage pool for server A from
stgpool A to stgpool B.

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Re: 3592 Tape Compression

2005-11-28 Thread Richard Sims

On Nov 28, 2005, at 6:28 AM, Volker Maibaum wrote:


Hello,

We have a TSM Server 5.3.2.1 on z/Linux with a 3494 Library and 3592
Tape drives.

In the 3592 device class I have used the format=DRIVE option (see
below). How can I find out if the data on the volumes is written with
drive compression?


To augment Stef's response...
I'm not aware of a way to inspect the tapes themselves, but you can
ask the drives what they are doing: In AIX, the 'lsattr -EHl rmt_' or
'mt -f /dev/rmt_ status' commands will show whether TSM has enabled
compression in them, as in response:

  attribute  value
descriptionuser_settable
  compress   yesUse Hardware Compression on
Tape   True


The average capacity of my volumes is 430GB (> native 300GB). Now I'm
not sure if this is due to client compression or due to drive
compression.


I'm getting about the same, with Format 3592C.


...


   Richard Sims   http://people.bu.edu/rbs


Re: 3592 Tape Compression

2005-11-28 Thread Stef Coene
On Monday 28 November 2005 12:28, Volker Maibaum wrote:
> Hello,
>
> We have a TSM Server 5.3.2.1 on z/Linux with a 3494 Library and 3592
> Tape drives.
>
> In the 3592 device class I have used the format=DRIVE option (see
> below). How can I find out if the data on the volumes is written with
> drive compression?
> The average capacity of my volumes is 430GB (> native 300GB). Now I'm
> not sure if this is due to client compression or due to drive
> compression.
You are using drive compression .  Otherwise the average capacity would be
300GB/cartridge.  The data is send compressed to TSM so TSM is counting the
compressed data.


Stef


3592 Tape Compression

2005-11-28 Thread Volker Maibaum
Hello,

We have a TSM Server 5.3.2.1 on z/Linux with a 3494 Library and 3592
Tape drives.

In the 3592 device class I have used the format=DRIVE option (see
below). How can I find out if the data on the volumes is written with
drive compression?
The average capacity of my volumes is 430GB (> native 300GB). Now I'm
not sure if this is due to client compression or due to drive
compression.
May it cause any problems with existing volumes if I change the format
option from drive to 3592c?

What are real life compression ratios for 3592 Tape Drives ?

select avg(EST_CAPACITY_MB) from volumes where status='FULL'-
429021,75045045045045
select max(EST_CAPACITY_MB) from volumes
605664,4

thanks,
Volker

Configuration
--
tsm: TSMSERV>q devcl devc_3592 f=d
 Device Class Name: DEVC_3592
Device Access Strategy: Sequential
Storage Pool Count: 5
   Device Type: 3592
Format: DRIVE
 Est/Max Capacity (MB): 460,800.0
   Mount Limit: DRIVES
  Mount Wait (min): 120
 Mount Retention (min): 5
  Label Prefix: ADSM
   Library: ATL3494
 Directory:
   Server Name:
  Retry Period:
Retry Interval:
Shared:
High-level Address:
  Minimum Capacity:
  WORM: No
   Scaled Capacity: 100
Last Update by (administrator):
 Last Update Date/Time: 03/14/05   10:17:02

tsm: TSMSERV>q drive  f=d
Library Name: ATL3494
  Drive Name: DRIVE1
 Device Type: 3592
 On-Line: Yes
Read Formats: 3592C,3592
   Write Formats: 3592C,3592
 Element:
 Drive State: EMPTY
 Volume Name:
Allocated to: