Re: TDP for Oracle and Backup Set Creation
If you are using an Oracle catalog in conjuction to using the TDP - you may want to also use exp with rman to match the TDP data with that of the catalog. From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager on behalf of Steven Harris Sent: Mon 11/28/2005 10:00 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: TDP for Oracle and Backup Set Creation Muthu You can generate a backupset for TDP data, but you can't restore from it. Use export instead. Regards Steve Steve Harris AIX and TSM Admin Brisbane Australia > -Original Message- > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Muthukumar Kannaiyan > Sent: Tuesday, 29 November 2005 8:30 AM > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: [ADSM-L] TDP for Oracle and Backup Set Creation > > > We are planning to create backup set for a node which usesTDP > for Oracle. How does TSM will generate backup set for this > node?. Is it possible to create?. If so, is there a procedure > to recover from this backup? > > TIA > Muthu > > >
Re: Full backup?
Hi Dave, I assume that you'll be using a test TSM server that has been created by restoring a backup copy of the production server's TSM database. My scenario implies that you'll have to make a production TSM server db backup after you created the special copy storage pool volumes for the node. I'm not sure I follow how getting "... two other nodes up and running" is not a client test. If you are just looking to verify that the TSM *server* was restored correctly, you could probably bring one tape with you that has one (or a few) of the node's files on it, and try restoring those files, without doing anything else special. That is less messy than manipulating your schedules to try and get a "full" backup. There are almost certainly other ways to manipulate your production TSM environment to generate a smaller set of tapes, but not all methods are quick (e.g., collocation, if not currently in use), but as my earlier response suggests, there is the bigger question of what it is you are really trying to accomplish. If your DR test is intended to verify that you can restore a working TSM server and you demonstrate that by restoring a few client files, that's one thing. But if your objectives also include trying to restore a complete client node from the restored TSM server, then I think making a special backup just to reduce the number of tapes invalidates the DR test (at least for that specific objective), since it does nothing to demonstrate that your regular backup processes are adequate for restoring the client node in a disaster situation. For example, if you are *not* currently collocating, then doing a test with your non-collocated tapes might help make the case for collocation if the restore time is not satisfactory. So... if you want to restore just a small handful of files to validate the restored TSM server is working, then why not just bring one or two of the existing tapes with you (that are known to contain at least one or two complete files without spanning to other volumes) and restore those files as a quick test? If you want a rigged restore, then my other idea should also work: use a new node name, which will automatically get a full backup. You can define the node in a new (test) domain, and create a special tape storage pool for this test node. Define a management class that puts all this node's data in the new storage pool, then run a backup. The result will be a small (or smallest possible) set of tapes in the test storage pool that you can take with you. Of course, you'll want to then make sure that you bring a TSM server database backup with you that was made *after* this special client backup was made. The idea of using a scheduled SELECTIVE command against the / file system only works if / is the *only* file system; otherwise you'd need to enumerate all the file systems that are on this client. And you'dl have to also use the -subdir=yes option. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www-306.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. "Good enough" is the enemy of excellence. David_Zarnoch/HOM/[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 2005-11-28 16:39:26: > Andrew, > > Thanks! > > We're just trying to validate that we can get the TSM server and two other > nodes up and running. Not a client test. > We will actually be at a registered DR site (IBM) with dedicated > equipment for us. > Your solution sounds good although it does sound a bit complicated. > Are you assuming that we are using our production TSM system? > We will have a completely different system in a remote site. > Knowing that, is the solution you suggest be the only way to limit the amount > of tapes? > > Thanks! > > Dave Zarnoch > Nationwide Provident > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > W 302-452-4197 > C 302-462-8703 > > Andrew Raibeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" > 11/28/2005 11:40 AM MST > Please respond to storman > > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > cc: > bcc: > Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Full backup? > > It's only "cheating" if the objective of this DR test is not to validate > your current client backup process. > > If it *is* intended to test your client backup procedures, then yes, it is > cheating on a far larger scale than just limiting the number of tapes you > bring with you, since you avoid testing with the real data that you would > actually have at the time of a real disaster, and therefore won't find any > issues that might fall out had you had the real set of tapes. You also > don't get your money's worth for the cost of the test. (Obviously) I do > not recommend this course of action. :-) > > But if you must, then it might be easier to just register a new node and > make a full incremental
Re: TDP for Oracle and Backup Set Creation
Muthu You can generate a backupset for TDP data, but you can't restore from it. Use export instead. Regards Steve Steve Harris AIX and TSM Admin Brisbane Australia > -Original Message- > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Muthukumar Kannaiyan > Sent: Tuesday, 29 November 2005 8:30 AM > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: [ADSM-L] TDP for Oracle and Backup Set Creation > > > We are planning to create backup set for a node which usesTDP > for Oracle. How does TSM will generate backup set for this > node?. Is it possible to create?. If so, is there a procedure > to recover from this backup? > > TIA > Muthu > > >
TDP for Oracle and Backup Set Creation
We are planning to create backup set for a node which usesTDP for Oracle. How does TSM will generate backup set for this node?. Is it possible to create?. If so, is there a procedure to recover from this backup? TIA Muthu
Re: TSM Bmr ??
http://www.cristie.co.uk $995 per server - Retail. (You can get it a cheaper...) I also agree on the merits of the TSM+ASR Redbook... We've had success with both methods. Troy -Original Message- From: Tim Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 2:53 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM Bmr ?? do you have the link for cristies bmr, and how much is it tim - Original Message - From: "Barnhart, Troy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 4:17 PM Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ?? I'm a big fan of the Cristie's BMR for Windows and RedHat Linux. They are pretty slick. I can restore a box from scratch in under 10 minutes. My only caveat for "dislike hardware" restores is using newer hardware. i.e. their driver support for older hardware. We had problems getting older drivers to work correctly - such as old "HP LH3 Netservers." But, with our newer IBM xSeries - very smooth... Regards, Troy Troy Barnhart, Sr. Systems Programmer, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rapid City Regional Hospital, Rapid City, South Dakota, 57701 ph: 605-719-8068 / fax: 605-719-4206 - Original Message - From: "Prather, Wanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 4:02 PM Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ?? What I meant was, to a different TYPE machine, i.e., disklike hardware, not just a different machine. The Christie Bare Metal add-on product supports restoring Windows to unlike hardware. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Brown Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 4:04 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ?? you said that windows does not support restoring a registry to a different machine, but isnt that what happens when i follow the instructions in the "Disaster Recovery Strategies with TSM" pdf. is tsm ever going to support restoring to dislike hardware ? tim - Original Message - From: "Prather, Wanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:40 PM Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ?? http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;249694 -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Brown Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:37 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ?? is there documentation that describes the differences between "the same machine after a hard drive failure" and "restoring to different hardware at a hot site" i am attempting the later tim - Original Message - From: "Prather, Wanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:26 PM Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ?? IT's not a TSM issue, it's a Windows issue. Microsoft does not support restoring a registry to a different machine. That being said, they used to have a procedure in the knowledge base that you can try. Check there. How you test BMR, depends on what you are trying to do. You need different procedures for different possible disasters; Procedures needed to restore back to the same machine after a hard drive failure, are simpler than the case where you are restoring to different hardware at a hot site. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Brown Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:25 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: TSM Bmr ?? Is there still a requirement to restore a TSM client to the same server hardware type. Can the restored server be somewhat different. How does everyone else test the TSM BMR procedures. Tm Brown Systems Specialist Central Hudson Gas & Electric 284 South Ave Poughkeepsie, NY 12601 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 845-486-5643 Fax: 845-486-5921 . ***Note: The information contained in this message, including any attachments, may be privileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the Sender immediately by a "reply to sender only" message and destroy all electronic or paper copies of the communication, including any attachments. ***Note: The information contained in this message, including any attachments, may be privileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the Sender immediately by a "reply to sender only" message and destroy all electronic or paper copies of the communication, including any attachments.
Re: TSM Bmr ??
On Nov 28, 2005, at 3:37 PM, Tim Brown wrote: is there documentation that describes the differences between "the same machine after a hard drive failure" and "restoring to different hardware at a hot site" i am attempting the later Tim - If you haven't already, look into the bare metal restore capabilities of TSM + ASR, provided starting in 5.2. (IBM Software Announcement 203-095 summarizes 5.2 stuff.) "Windows ASR hardware requirements" in the Windows client manual will give you a sense of what can be done in that context. Richard Sims
Re: TSM Bmr ??
do you have the link for cristies bmr, and how much is it tim - Original Message - From: "Barnhart, Troy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 4:17 PM Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ?? I'm a big fan of the Cristie's BMR for Windows and RedHat Linux. They are pretty slick. I can restore a box from scratch in under 10 minutes. My only caveat for "dislike hardware" restores is using newer hardware. i.e. their driver support for older hardware. We had problems getting older drivers to work correctly - such as old "HP LH3 Netservers." But, with our newer IBM xSeries - very smooth... Regards, Troy Troy Barnhart, Sr. Systems Programmer, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rapid City Regional Hospital, Rapid City, South Dakota, 57701 ph: 605-719-8068 / fax: 605-719-4206 - Original Message - From: "Prather, Wanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 4:02 PM Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ?? What I meant was, to a different TYPE machine, i.e., disklike hardware, not just a different machine. The Christie Bare Metal add-on product supports restoring Windows to unlike hardware. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Brown Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 4:04 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ?? you said that windows does not support restoring a registry to a different machine, but isnt that what happens when i follow the instructions in the "Disaster Recovery Strategies with TSM" pdf. is tsm ever going to support restoring to dislike hardware ? tim - Original Message - From: "Prather, Wanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:40 PM Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ?? http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;249694 -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Brown Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:37 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ?? is there documentation that describes the differences between "the same machine after a hard drive failure" and "restoring to different hardware at a hot site" i am attempting the later tim - Original Message - From: "Prather, Wanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:26 PM Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ?? IT's not a TSM issue, it's a Windows issue. Microsoft does not support restoring a registry to a different machine. That being said, they used to have a procedure in the knowledge base that you can try. Check there. How you test BMR, depends on what you are trying to do. You need different procedures for different possible disasters; Procedures needed to restore back to the same machine after a hard drive failure, are simpler than the case where you are restoring to different hardware at a hot site. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Brown Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:25 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: TSM Bmr ?? Is there still a requirement to restore a TSM client to the same server hardware type. Can the restored server be somewhat different. How does everyone else test the TSM BMR procedures. Tm Brown Systems Specialist Central Hudson Gas & Electric 284 South Ave Poughkeepsie, NY 12601 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 845-486-5643 Fax: 845-486-5921 . ***Note: The information contained in this message, including any attachments, may be privileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the Sender immediately by a "reply to sender only" message and destroy all electronic or paper copies of the communication, including any attachments.
Re: TSM Bmr ??
I'm a big fan of the Cristie's BMR for Windows and RedHat Linux. They are pretty slick. I can restore a box from scratch in under 10 minutes. My only caveat for "dislike hardware" restores is using newer hardware. i.e. their driver support for older hardware. We had problems getting older drivers to work correctly - such as old "HP LH3 Netservers." But, with our newer IBM xSeries - very smooth... Regards, Troy Troy Barnhart, Sr. Systems Programmer, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rapid City Regional Hospital, Rapid City, South Dakota, 57701 ph: 605-719-8068 / fax: 605-719-4206 - Original Message - From: "Prather, Wanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 4:02 PM Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ?? What I meant was, to a different TYPE machine, i.e., disklike hardware, not just a different machine. The Christie Bare Metal add-on product supports restoring Windows to unlike hardware. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Brown Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 4:04 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ?? you said that windows does not support restoring a registry to a different machine, but isnt that what happens when i follow the instructions in the "Disaster Recovery Strategies with TSM" pdf. is tsm ever going to support restoring to dislike hardware ? tim - Original Message - From: "Prather, Wanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:40 PM Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ?? http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;249694 -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Brown Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:37 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ?? is there documentation that describes the differences between "the same machine after a hard drive failure" and "restoring to different hardware at a hot site" i am attempting the later tim - Original Message - From: "Prather, Wanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:26 PM Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ?? IT's not a TSM issue, it's a Windows issue. Microsoft does not support restoring a registry to a different machine. That being said, they used to have a procedure in the knowledge base that you can try. Check there. How you test BMR, depends on what you are trying to do. You need different procedures for different possible disasters; Procedures needed to restore back to the same machine after a hard drive failure, are simpler than the case where you are restoring to different hardware at a hot site. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Brown Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:25 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: TSM Bmr ?? Is there still a requirement to restore a TSM client to the same server hardware type. Can the restored server be somewhat different. How does everyone else test the TSM BMR procedures. Tm Brown Systems Specialist Central Hudson Gas & Electric 284 South Ave Poughkeepsie, NY 12601 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 845-486-5643 Fax: 845-486-5921 . ***Note: The information contained in this message, including any attachments, may be privileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the Sender immediately by a "reply to sender only" message and destroy all electronic or paper copies of the communication, including any attachments.
Re: TSM Bmr ??
thanks !! - Original Message - From: "Prather, Wanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 4:02 PM Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ?? What I meant was, to a different TYPE machine, i.e., disklike hardware, not just a different machine. The Christie Bare Metal add-on product supports restoring Windows to unlike hardware. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Brown Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 4:04 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ?? you said that windows does not support restoring a registry to a different machine, but isnt that what happens when i follow the instructions in the "Disaster Recovery Strategies with TSM" pdf. is tsm ever going to support restoring to dislike hardware ? tim - Original Message - From: "Prather, Wanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:40 PM Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ?? http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;249694 -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Brown Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:37 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ?? is there documentation that describes the differences between "the same machine after a hard drive failure" and "restoring to different hardware at a hot site" i am attempting the later tim - Original Message - From: "Prather, Wanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:26 PM Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ?? IT's not a TSM issue, it's a Windows issue. Microsoft does not support restoring a registry to a different machine. That being said, they used to have a procedure in the knowledge base that you can try. Check there. How you test BMR, depends on what you are trying to do. You need different procedures for different possible disasters; Procedures needed to restore back to the same machine after a hard drive failure, are simpler than the case where you are restoring to different hardware at a hot site. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Brown Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:25 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: TSM Bmr ?? Is there still a requirement to restore a TSM client to the same server hardware type. Can the restored server be somewhat different. How does everyone else test the TSM BMR procedures. Tm Brown Systems Specialist Central Hudson Gas & Electric 284 South Ave Poughkeepsie, NY 12601 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 845-486-5643 Fax: 845-486-5921 .
Re: TSM Bmr ??
What I meant was, to a different TYPE machine, i.e., disklike hardware, not just a different machine. The Christie Bare Metal add-on product supports restoring Windows to unlike hardware. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Brown Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 4:04 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ?? you said that windows does not support restoring a registry to a different machine, but isnt that what happens when i follow the instructions in the "Disaster Recovery Strategies with TSM" pdf. is tsm ever going to support restoring to dislike hardware ? tim - Original Message - From: "Prather, Wanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:40 PM Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ?? http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;249694 -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Brown Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:37 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ?? is there documentation that describes the differences between "the same machine after a hard drive failure" and "restoring to different hardware at a hot site" i am attempting the later tim - Original Message - From: "Prather, Wanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:26 PM Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ?? IT's not a TSM issue, it's a Windows issue. Microsoft does not support restoring a registry to a different machine. That being said, they used to have a procedure in the knowledge base that you can try. Check there. How you test BMR, depends on what you are trying to do. You need different procedures for different possible disasters; Procedures needed to restore back to the same machine after a hard drive failure, are simpler than the case where you are restoring to different hardware at a hot site. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Brown Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:25 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: TSM Bmr ?? Is there still a requirement to restore a TSM client to the same server hardware type. Can the restored server be somewhat different. How does everyone else test the TSM BMR procedures. Tm Brown Systems Specialist Central Hudson Gas & Electric 284 South Ave Poughkeepsie, NY 12601 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 845-486-5643 Fax: 845-486-5921 .
Re: TSM Bmr ??
you said that windows does not support restoring a registry to a different machine, but isnt that what happens when i follow the instructions in the "Disaster Recovery Strategies with TSM" pdf. is tsm ever going to support restoring to dislike hardware ? tim - Original Message - From: "Prather, Wanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:40 PM Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ?? http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;249694 -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Brown Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:37 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ?? is there documentation that describes the differences between "the same machine after a hard drive failure" and "restoring to different hardware at a hot site" i am attempting the later tim - Original Message - From: "Prather, Wanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:26 PM Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ?? IT's not a TSM issue, it's a Windows issue. Microsoft does not support restoring a registry to a different machine. That being said, they used to have a procedure in the knowledge base that you can try. Check there. How you test BMR, depends on what you are trying to do. You need different procedures for different possible disasters; Procedures needed to restore back to the same machine after a hard drive failure, are simpler than the case where you are restoring to different hardware at a hot site. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Brown Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:25 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: TSM Bmr ?? Is there still a requirement to restore a TSM client to the same server hardware type. Can the restored server be somewhat different. How does everyone else test the TSM BMR procedures. Tm Brown Systems Specialist Central Hudson Gas & Electric 284 South Ave Poughkeepsie, NY 12601 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 845-486-5643 Fax: 845-486-5921 .
Re: TSM Bmr ??
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;249694 -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Brown Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:37 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ?? is there documentation that describes the differences between "the same machine after a hard drive failure" and "restoring to different hardware at a hot site" i am attempting the later tim - Original Message - From: "Prather, Wanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:26 PM Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ?? IT's not a TSM issue, it's a Windows issue. Microsoft does not support restoring a registry to a different machine. That being said, they used to have a procedure in the knowledge base that you can try. Check there. How you test BMR, depends on what you are trying to do. You need different procedures for different possible disasters; Procedures needed to restore back to the same machine after a hard drive failure, are simpler than the case where you are restoring to different hardware at a hot site. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Brown Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:25 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: TSM Bmr ?? Is there still a requirement to restore a TSM client to the same server hardware type. Can the restored server be somewhat different. How does everyone else test the TSM BMR procedures. Tm Brown Systems Specialist Central Hudson Gas & Electric 284 South Ave Poughkeepsie, NY 12601 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 845-486-5643 Fax: 845-486-5921 .
Re: TSM Bmr ??
is there documentation that describes the differences between "the same machine after a hard drive failure" and "restoring to different hardware at a hot site" i am attempting the later tim - Original Message - From: "Prather, Wanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:26 PM Subject: Re: TSM Bmr ?? IT's not a TSM issue, it's a Windows issue. Microsoft does not support restoring a registry to a different machine. That being said, they used to have a procedure in the knowledge base that you can try. Check there. How you test BMR, depends on what you are trying to do. You need different procedures for different possible disasters; Procedures needed to restore back to the same machine after a hard drive failure, are simpler than the case where you are restoring to different hardware at a hot site. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Brown Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:25 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: TSM Bmr ?? Is there still a requirement to restore a TSM client to the same server hardware type. Can the restored server be somewhat different. How does everyone else test the TSM BMR procedures. Tm Brown Systems Specialist Central Hudson Gas & Electric 284 South Ave Poughkeepsie, NY 12601 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 845-486-5643 Fax: 845-486-5921 .
Re: TSM Bmr ??
IT's not a TSM issue, it's a Windows issue. Microsoft does not support restoring a registry to a different machine. That being said, they used to have a procedure in the knowledge base that you can try. Check there. How you test BMR, depends on what you are trying to do. You need different procedures for different possible disasters; Procedures needed to restore back to the same machine after a hard drive failure, are simpler than the case where you are restoring to different hardware at a hot site. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Brown Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:25 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: TSM Bmr ?? Is there still a requirement to restore a TSM client to the same server hardware type. Can the restored server be somewhat different. How does everyone else test the TSM BMR procedures. Tm Brown Systems Specialist Central Hudson Gas & Electric 284 South Ave Poughkeepsie, NY 12601 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 845-486-5643 Fax: 845-486-5921 .
Re: windows 2000 restore problem
Hi, here's some information regarding restore for Windows 2000. I am not sure if this is related but just providing you the information that might be helpful in PD your issue. http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21164812 Sung Y. Lee "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" wrote on 11/28/2005 02:38:40 PM: > I was resinstalling a Windows 2000 server for disaster testing and it wont > reboot after reload. I was following the instrutions found in the > pdf "Disaster > Recovery Strategies with TSM" > > I successfully restored the C: drive and System object, I then choose to > reboot and Windows doesnt start and gets the message > > Windows 2000 could not start because the following file is missing or corrupt: > \system32\ntoskrnl.exe > Please re-install a copy of the above file. > > Has anyone seen this before with a TSM restore, Both client and server are > running TSM 5.2.3. Windows server is 2000 with SP4. > > I did get a popup before I rebooted stating that some Windows files had gotten > replaced and it need the install CD. I figured that I could ignore > that since I > was doing a full replace anyway. > > Tim Brown > Systems Specialist > Central Hudson Gas & Electric > 284 South Ave > Poughkeepsie, NY 12601 > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Phone: 845-486-5643 > Fax: 845-486-5921
TSM Bmr ??
Is there still a requirement to restore a TSM client to the same server hardware type. Can the restored server be somewhat different. How does everyone else test the TSM BMR procedures. Tm Brown Systems Specialist Central Hudson Gas & Electric 284 South Ave Poughkeepsie, NY 12601 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 845-486-5643 Fax: 845-486-5921 .
Re: TSM Journal Service communication failure
Uwe - Those messages are helpful... Windows error 233 is ERROR_PIPE_NOT_CONNECTED, which says "No process is on the other end of the pipe". Assuming that the dsmerror.log message was written by the B/A client, it means that the Journal Service disappeared (died). Perhaps the Windows Event Log tells why (possibly a space issue?). In any case, restart it, and keep an eye on it to see if it consistently fails under similar conditions. Richard Sims, not a Windows expert On Nov 28, 2005, at 2:37 PM, Uwe Koch wrote: Hello Richard, thanks for the fast answer. But in the dsmerror.log only these entries appear very fast repeating : ... 11/25/2005 18:34:08 win32NpWrite(): Error 233 writing to named pipe 11/25/2005 18:34:08 win32NpWrite(): Error 233 writing to named pipe 11/25/2005 18:34:08 win32NpWrite(): Error 233 writing to named pipe ... I just don't know what this means. Is there a TSM config setting or a windows registry parameter to avoid this ? Life should have an EncounterNoProblems option, but...
AW: [ADSM-L] Backup of node onto how which volumes from last night's backup ?
I do it this way: First get a list of tapes used by yesterdays backup. Then run a second script for every tape. That's much faster. Skript 1: (Gives a list of tapes used for primary stgpools) select volume_name as Volume,last_write_date - from volumes where - last_write_date > timestamp(date(current_date-1 day),'19:00:00') and - last_write_date < timestamp(date(current_date),'10:00:00') and - stgpool_name in ('TAPEPOOL','TAPEPOOL2','TAPE_TDP') Skript 2: (Gives a list with nodename, filespacename, number of files and amount of backed up data) select node_name as Node, - filespace_name as Filespace,- count(file_name) as Files,- sum(file_size) as Size - from contents - where volume_name='$1' - group by node_name, filespace_name - order by files desc HTH Thomas Rupp -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Richard Mochnaczewski Gesendet: Montag, 28. November 2005 19:43 An: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Betreff: [ADSM-L] Backup of node onto how which volumes from last night's backup ? Hi Everybody, Does anyone have an SQL to check what tape volumes were used by a specific node backup that ran between 6:00 PM and 1:00 AM the previous night ? Can it be naroowed down to a filespace name ? Rich
Re: TSM Journal Service communication failure
Hello Richard, thanks for the fast answer. But in the dsmerror.log only these entries appear very fast repeating : ... 11/25/2005 18:34:08 win32NpWrite(): Error 233 writing to named pipe 11/25/2005 18:34:08 win32NpWrite(): Error 233 writing to named pipe 11/25/2005 18:34:08 win32NpWrite(): Error 233 writing to named pipe ... I just don't know what this means. Is there a TSM config setting or a windows registry parameter to avoid this ? Mit freundlichen Grüßen With best regards Uwe Koch Dipl.-Ing. Nachrichtentechnik Server Administrator IBM Business Services GmbH Office ABB Home Phone +49 2351 956-1670+49 2357 171227 Fax +49 2351 956-9670+49 2357 903321 Mobile +49 172 7227900 +49 172 7227900 eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Street Freisenbergstr. 2Jahnstr.13 CityD-58513 Lüdenscheid D-58849 Herscheid Country Germany Germany Richard Sims <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To 28.11.2005 16:01 Uwe Koch/Germany/[EMAIL PROTECTED] cc Subject Re: TSM Journal Service communication failure I could only advise looking for errors in the dsmerror.log. The backup client interacts with the Journal Service via a Named Pipe, and problems there could cause a communication failure - which should be reflected in the error log. Richard Sims On Nov 28, 2005, at 9:36 AM, Uwe Koch wrote: > Hello, > > we are running TSM BA Client 5.3.0.5 on several Windows 2003 SP1 > machines. > It runs fine for several days but then there is a "ANS1181E > Communication > failure with the journal service" which causes the > Scheduler service to hang and no more backups are done. > > Has anyone an idea about the reason of this failure ? > > Mit freundlichen Grüßen > > With best regards > > Uwe Koch > > Dipl.-Ing. > Nachrichtentechnik > >Server Administrator > > > > > > IBM Business Services GmbH > > Office ABB Home > > Phone +49 2351 956-1670+49 2357 171227 > > Fax +49 2351 956-9670+49 2357 903321 > > Mobile +49 172 7227900 +49 172 7227900 > > eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Street Freisenbergstr. 2Jahnstr.13 > > CityD-58513 Lüdenscheid D-58849 Herscheid > > Country Germany Germany > >
windows 2000 restore problem
I was resinstalling a Windows 2000 server for disaster testing and it wont reboot after reload. I was following the instrutions found in the pdf "Disaster Recovery Strategies with TSM" I successfully restored the C: drive and System object, I then choose to reboot and Windows doesnt start and gets the message Windows 2000 could not start because the following file is missing or corrupt: \system32\ntoskrnl.exe Please re-install a copy of the above file. Has anyone seen this before with a TSM restore, Both client and server are running TSM 5.2.3. Windows server is 2000 with SP4. I did get a popup before I rebooted stating that some Windows files had gotten replaced and it need the install CD. I figured that I could ignore that since I was doing a full replace anyway. Tim Brown Systems Specialist Central Hudson Gas & Electric 284 South Ave Poughkeepsie, NY 12601 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 845-486-5643 Fax: 845-486-5921
Re: Full backup?
If you have too many tapes for a DR test you have too many tapes for a disaster! Consider collocation of your offsite tapes. David >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/28/05 1:18 PM >>> Probably a FAQ, but... We are planning a DR this weekend and I would like to limit the number of tapes we bring by getting a full backup of the system (Level 0) (I knowcheatercheater) Do I just modify the GUI settings from incremental to selective? Then, in the "file space" just put in "/" Sounds too simple. Thanks! Dave Zarnoch Nationwide Provident [EMAIL PROTECTED] W 302-452-4197 C 302-462-8703
Backup of node onto how which volumes from last night's backup ?
Hi Everybody, Does anyone have an SQL to check what tape volumes were used by a specific node backup that ran between 6:00 PM and 1:00 AM the previous night ? Can it be naroowed down to a filespace name ? Rich
Re: Full backup?
It's only "cheating" if the objective of this DR test is not to validate your current client backup process. If it *is* intended to test your client backup procedures, then yes, it is cheating on a far larger scale than just limiting the number of tapes you bring with you, since you avoid testing with the real data that you would actually have at the time of a real disaster, and therefore won't find any issues that might fall out had you had the real set of tapes. You also don't get your money's worth for the cost of the test. (Obviously) I do not recommend this course of action. :-) But if you must, then it might be easier to just register a new node and make a full incremental backup of that node. I haven't worked it out in full detail, but a compromise would go something like this: create a new disk storage pool, and use MOVE NODEDATA to move the test node's data to that pool. Then create a new copy storage pool, and back up the disk pool to it. You can then migrate the data from the new disk pool back to the regular tape pool, then delete the new disk pool. Likewise, after you've completed your DR test, you can delete the new copy storage pool and its volumes. Your DR test won't use the original set of tapes that it would use in a real DR test, but at least the backup data would be the same as what you would have in a real DR scenario. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www-306.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. "Good enough" is the enemy of excellence. "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" wrote on 2005-11-28 11:18:07: > Probably a FAQ, but... > > We are planning a DR this weekend and I would like to limit the number > of tapes we bring by getting a full backup of the system (Level 0) > (I knowcheatercheater) > > Do I just modify the GUI settings from incremental to selective? > > Then, in the "file space" just put in "/" > > Sounds too simple. > > Thanks! > > > Dave Zarnoch > Nationwide Provident > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > W 302-452-4197 > C 302-462-8703
Full backup?
Probably a FAQ, but... We are planning a DR this weekend and I would like to limit the number of tapes we bring by getting a full backup of the system (Level 0) (I knowcheatercheater) Do I just modify the GUI settings from incremental to selective? Then, in the "file space" just put in "/" Sounds too simple. Thanks! Dave Zarnoch Nationwide Provident [EMAIL PROTECTED] W 302-452-4197 C 302-462-8703
Re: SQL select for file size
But why do the volume names need to be known at all? Why not just do: select node_name,filespace_name,file_name,file_size from contents But yes, if the file is part of an aggregate, you'll get the aggregate size, which would be misleading. I don't think there is a very good way to do this. Another avenue to consider would be just get file counts from the BACKUPS table, then multiply some average size value, say, like 3 - 5 MB for a typical song. It's only a rough idea, but then if the objective is to determine who the biggest users of these files are, the file counts should give an indication. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www-306.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. "Good enough" is the enemy of excellence. "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" wrote on 2005-11-28 09:53:44: > < size with>> > > How about this select to get the volume(s).. warning.. looks like a long > query.. > > select volume_name from contents where node_name='xxx' AND > file_name='.xxx' > > Sung Y. Lee > > "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" wrote on 11/25/2005 > 12:05:22 PM: > > > I know that this question has been addressed before, but I just want to > > check that the situation remains the same with the current releases, > > or if anybody has come up with a cheeky workaround/better solution. > > > > I am looking for a relatively efficient way of finding out how much data > > in size is stored by TSM for certain files or file types (ie. .mp3 .wav > > .avi ) > > > > I can get a list of the files with > > > > select ll_name,hl_name from backups where node_name='XXX' and > > filespace_id=x and ll_name like'%.MP3%' > > > > If I know what volumes the node/filespace resides on, I can get the file > > size with > > > > select node_name,filespace_name,file_name,file_size from contents where > > volume_name='XXX' > > > > Is the file size accurate or is it the size of the aggregate that the > > file is contained within ? (They all seem a little too rounded for my > > liking) > > > > Also, this is not particularly easy in a non-colocated environment. > > > > So, is listing the volumes that the node/filespace is stored > > on and then selecting from the contents of this list of volumes the only > > way. > > And, even if this is scripted, is it accurate or is it just the size of > > the aggregates. > > > > Knowing that the GUI will list the filesize but it doesn't seem readily > > available from SQL queries is truly a Friday afternoon annoyance. > > > > Leigh
Re: Space Reclamation Eating Tapes
On Nov 28, 2005, at 11:42 AM, Sung Y Lee wrote: It has been my experience that, if primary tape pool maxscratch value is set greater than tapes used when reclamation kicks off, it mounts a brand new scratch tapes. ... I've never seen that behavior - that would result in a large number of tapes in Filling state, and that does not happen. TSM requests a fresh tape when the would-be candidate filling tape is in an unusable state (as from previous tape errors) or that volume is in use (current output volume or being dismounted). If a TSM instance was always calling for new volumes, that would constitute a violation of its design, and should be reported as a defect. In any case, this thread is largely proceeding without substantive information. We need to see the results of analyses which examined tape states, Activity Log, and volume contents. Richard Sims
Re: 3592 Tape Compression
If any of your clients have compression on, the data is compressed before sending to the TSM server. When TSM sends it out to the tape drive, it cannot be compressed again (or by very little). This is true of any type of compression, with any type of drive. If you have a mixture of clients compressing & not compressing, there is simply no way to calculate your true compression ratio on the drives. The only way you can calculate is to set up a controlled test, where you are sure none of the client data is compressed. But as others have mentioned, the compression ratio is very dependent on the type of data. Wanda Prather "I/O, I/O, It's all about I/O" -(me) -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Volker Maibaum Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 7:43 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: 3592 Tape Compression Thanks for the answers! I already assumed that drive compression was on... But I find it a bit disappointing that the compression ratio is that poor (only 1,4:1). When you look at the data sheets for 3592 drives they always talk about 3:1 data compression. Volker Am Montag, den 28.11.2005, 07:15 -0500 schrieb Richard Sims: > augment
Re: SQL select for file size
<> How about this select to get the volume(s).. warning.. looks like a long query.. select volume_name from contents where node_name='xxx' AND file_name='.xxx' Sung Y. Lee "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" wrote on 11/25/2005 12:05:22 PM: > I know that this question has been addressed before, but I just want to > check that the situation remains the same with the current releases, > or if anybody has come up with a cheeky workaround/better solution. > > I am looking for a relatively efficient way of finding out how much data > in size is stored by TSM for certain files or file types (ie. .mp3 .wav > .avi ) > > I can get a list of the files with > > select ll_name,hl_name from backups where node_name='XXX' and > filespace_id=x and ll_name like'%.MP3%' > > If I know what volumes the node/filespace resides on, I can get the file > size with > > select node_name,filespace_name,file_name,file_size from contents where > volume_name='XXX' > > Is the file size accurate or is it the size of the aggregate that the > file is contained within ? (They all seem a little too rounded for my > liking) > > Also, this is not particularly easy in a non-colocated environment. > > So, is listing the volumes that the node/filespace is stored > on and then selecting from the contents of this list of volumes the only > way. > And, even if this is scripted, is it accurate or is it just the size of > the aggregates. > > Knowing that the GUI will list the filesize but it doesn't seem readily > available from SQL queries is truly a Friday afternoon annoyance. > > Leigh
Re: Space Reclamation Eating Tapes
It has been my experience that, if primary tape pool maxscratch value is set greater than tapes used when reclamation kicks off, it mounts a brand new scratch tapes. I suspect that there is some logical reason how tapes are reclaimed ... such as why not taking already used tape. However I have had success by lowering the maxscratch count less than tapes used will allow TSM not to use new scratch tapes but use already used tapes. Now, if one is using collocation, I tried to think of a reason why one would starting reclamation. My experience shows that since any gain of tapes by performing reclamation of collocation pool is short lived because TSM will shortly attempt to use new scratch tapes. Sung Y. Lee "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" wrote on 11/28/2005 09:21:45 AM: > I recently migrated our Windows 2K3 TSM server from 5.2.1.3 to 5.3.2.0 > and since then, it seems that whenever I kick off space reclamation for > my primary tape storage pools, it eats up scratch tapes, instead of > freeing them up. Is there a reason for this? I understand that > occasionally TSM will need a scratch tape to combine other tapes, but it > should then free those other tapes up and return them to the scratch > pool. I've checked the reuse delay on the storage pools, and they are > set to 0, so I know that isn't the problem. > > > Mel Dennis
Re: Multiple schedulers for same node name
-OPTFILE can only be specified when launching the client executable; it cannot be specified as an option when the client is already running. Why not simply define two schedules: one whose OBJECTS field indicates the C: drive, and another whose OBJECTS file indicates the D: drive? Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www-306.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. "Good enough" is the enemy of excellence. "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" wrote on 2005-11-25 06:20:14: > Dear All, > On windows 2000 client running TSM 5.3 client, how can i setup 2 > schedulers with same node name. > > Objective is to initiate separate backups for C drive and D drive > using same node name. Also when i give -optfile=filename.opt in the > options in the scheduled task, it says invalid option when the backup starts. > > Regards, > Sandra > > > _ > Sent via SUPERwebmail - Supernet web-based email service > http://www.super.net.pk/mail
Re: 3592 Tape Compression
We have various types of data, some being very compressible (DB dumps) and others are very much uncompressible (JPG files). So as in all compression situations, "your mileage may vary" depending on the type of the data. Here is an example of the 2 extremes of our data when it ends up on 3592 drives with compression: * Non-compressible data. Getting about 300GB/tape: tsm: TSMHOST3>q vol C10077 f=d Volume Name: C10077 Storage Pool Name: X_TAPEPOOL Device Class Name: 3592DEV Estimated Capacity (MB): 297,763.1 Pct Util: 100.0 Volume Status: Full Access: Read-Only Pct. Reclaimable Space: 0.0 Scratch Volume?: Yes In Error State?: No Number of Writable Sides: 1 Number of Times Mounted: 16 Write Pass Number: 1 Approx. Date Last Written: 12/25/04 23:40:55 Approx. Date Last Read: 01/14/05 16:09:43 Date Became Pending: Number of Write Errors: 0 Number of Read Errors: 0 Volume Location: Bldg26 rack Volume is MVS Lanfree Capable : No Last Update by (administrator): ADMIN Last Update Date/Time: 08/30/05 13:17:23 *** Some very compressible data. Got about 1.2TB on a tape: tsm: TSMSERV1A>q vol A10007 f=d Volume Name: A10007 Storage Pool Name: X_TAPEPOOL Device Class Name: 3592DEV Estimated Capacity (MB): 1,334,463.3 Pct Util: 38.1 Volume Status: Full Access: Read/Write Pct. Reclaimable Space: 61.9 Scratch Volume?: Yes In Error State?: No Number of Writable Sides: 1 Number of Times Mounted: 65 Write Pass Number: 1 Approx. Date Last Written: 02/06/05 20:55:23 Approx. Date Last Read: 02/07/05 07:48:19 Date Became Pending: Number of Write Errors: 0 Number of Read Errors: 0 Volume Location: Volume is MVS Lanfree Capable : No Last Update by (administrator): Last Update Date/Time: 12/07/04 10:04:19 Ben -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Volker Maibaum Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 5:43 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: 3592 Tape Compression Thanks for the answers! I already assumed that drive compression was on... But I find it a bit disappointing that the compression ratio is that poor (only 1,4:1). When you look at the data sheets for 3592 drives they always talk about 3:1 data compression. Volker Am Montag, den 28.11.2005, 07:15 -0500 schrieb Richard Sims: > augment
AdminOnClientPort No and enterprise command routing
Hi all, on my test server I set AdminOnClientPort to No to be able to prevent unauthorized access to the admin interface from client nodes. Now I noticed that command routing for my central management host doesn't work anymore. Now I could set the lla for this test server to the admin port, but I was wondering what would break if I did so? Also, I couln't find any docs from IBM on how to properly set-up the 'entrerprise configureation' when this option is set -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Remco Post SARA - Reken- en Netwerkdiensten http://www.sara.nl High Performance Computing Tel. +31 20 592 3000Fax. +31 20 668 3167 "I really didn't foresee the Internet. But then, neither did the computer industry. Not that that tells us very much of course - the computer industry didn't even foresee that the century was going to end." -- Douglas Adams
Re: 6.1.0.9 dd & LTO3 in 3584LIB
Just installed them on 5.2.6.3. Aren't having any problems yet. Did you use the new install procedure for the drivers? (run install.exe instead of using Windows install). -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Large, M (Matthew) Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 10:03 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: 6.1.0.9 dd & LTO3 in 3584LIB Hi Guys, Is anybody using these devices and drivers? We're experiencing a few problems and we want to know if anybody else has a similar environment. TSM is 5.2.4.5 on W2K SP4 Thanks, Matthew TSM Consultant ADMIN ITI Rabobank International 1 Queenhithe, London EC4V 3RL _ This email (including any attachments to it) is confidential, legally privileged, subject to copyright and is sent for the personal attention of the intended recipient only. If you have received this email in error, please advise us immediately and delete it. You are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. Although we have taken reasonable precautions to ensure no viruses are present in this email, we cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage arising from the viruses in this email or attachments. We exclude any liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided in this email or its attachments, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If this email contains an offer, that should be considered as an invitation to treat. _
6.1.0.9 dd & LTO3 in 3584LIB
Hi Guys, Is anybody using these devices and drivers? We're experiencing a few problems and we want to know if anybody else has a similar environment. TSM is 5.2.4.5 on W2K SP4 Thanks, Matthew TSM Consultant ADMIN ITI Rabobank International 1 Queenhithe, London EC4V 3RL _ This email (including any attachments to it) is confidential, legally privileged, subject to copyright and is sent for the personal attention of the intended recipient only. If you have received this email in error, please advise us immediately and delete it. You are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. Although we have taken reasonable precautions to ensure no viruses are present in this email, we cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage arising from the viruses in this email or attachments. We exclude any liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided in this email or its attachments, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If this email contains an offer, that should be considered as an invitation to treat. _
Re: Space Reclamation Eating Tapes
Such as? :) Mel Dennis Systems Engineer - IT743 Siemens Power Generation 4400 Alafaya Trail Orlando, FL 32826 MC Q1-110 Tel: (407) 736-2360 Win: 439-2360 Fax: (407) 736-5069 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bos, Karel Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 9:53 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Space Reclamation Eating Tapes Things have changed in 5.3. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis Melburn W IT743 Sent: maandag 28 november 2005 15:35 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Space Reclamation Eating Tapes Don't think that is it, I only have 2 storage pools out of like 12 that have collocation turned on (these storage pools are for large file servers). So collocation shouldn't be affecting most of them. Mel Dennis Systems Engineer - IT743 Siemens Power Generation 4400 Alafaya Trail Orlando, FL 32826 MC Q1-110 Tel: (407) 736-2360 Win: 439-2360 Fax: (407) 736-5069 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bos, Karel Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 9:30 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Space Reclamation Eating Tapes Sounds like a collocation problem. Q stg / q node / q collocgroup. Regards, Karel -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis Melburn W IT743 Sent: maandag 28 november 2005 15:22 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Space Reclamation Eating Tapes I recently migrated our Windows 2K3 TSM server from 5.2.1.3 to 5.3.2.0 and since then, it seems that whenever I kick off space reclamation for my primary tape storage pools, it eats up scratch tapes, instead of freeing them up. Is there a reason for this? I understand that occasionally TSM will need a scratch tape to combine other tapes, but it should then free those other tapes up and return them to the scratch pool. I've checked the reuse delay on the storage pools, and they are set to 0, so I know that isn't the problem. Mel Dennis
Re: HP itanium and 64-bit support
Yiannakis, Briefly, IA64 (Intel Architecture-64) is a 64-bit processor architecture jointly developed by Intel and HP. It is distinct from and not directly backward compatible with X86 architectures due to use of a different instruction set known as EPIC. There's plenty of online reading material at the HP and Intel sites which I'd encourage you to check out, since this is kind of off-topic for this discussion list. The important thing to note is that there are two different 64-bit hardware architectures, IA64 and X64. Be aware of this when selecting a 64-bit TSM client. Others on the list may have different suggestions for your second question, but I can see two approaches. The first would be to install SQL Server 2000 and use the existing (and functioning) TDP SQL client for backups. You can upgrade to SQL Server 2005 later. Or, install SQL Server 2005 and use SQL's built-in backup capabilities, and then use a BA client to backup the flat files. Neither is optimal. You also may just want to call Tivoli support for assistance. Hope this helps. --Ruth Mitchell Cornell Theory Center -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yiannakis Vakis Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 2:02 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] HP itanium and 64-bit support Ruth hi, First of all what is an IA64 ? Then, if "IA64 support is not yet available due to Microsoft bug #409794" how do you manage to do a backup without problems ? Regards Yiannakis
Re: Point-in-time restore Notes database - solved
The problem is solved and actually there wasn't any problem. It was found that the mail has been delivered later on then first was thought. And thus the point-in-time restore is doing it's job. greetings, Kurt From: Kurt Beyers Sent: Mon 28/11/2005 13:55 To: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Subject: Point-in-time restore Notes database Hello, I've got the following setup: TSM server 5.3.2.0 on Windows 2003 Lotus Notes 6.5.2 fixpack 2 running on Windows NT with TSM BA client 5.1.7.3 and TDP Notes 5.1.5.1 The backup scheme for the Notes server is: selective backup on friday evening incremental backup from monday evening till thursday evening archive log backup every 4 hours if the treshold is greater than 80% archive log backup at 04:00 AM without any treshold. I've restore a Notes database from the selective backup without activating it. I know that a mail was sent to the Notes database on 11/22 at 14:46. And as a transaction log backup ran at 11/23 at 04:00h, an entry for this mail must be found in the transaction logs. I start then the point-in-time restore from the CLI with following command: domdsmc activatedbs /applylogs=11/23/2005,06:00:00 The activatedbs ends with the following messages: 11/28/2005 01:45:24 PM Recovery Manager: Media Recovery complete for D:\Notes\Data\mail\testdb.nsf.dad, last update applied 11/22/2005 02:02:06 AM. How does it come that the last applied update is that old when you know that updates occured during the day and that an entry must be found in the transaction logs for it. The mail is of course not found. If I recover a bit further in time, the mail will be found in the Notes database. But you have to gamble for the exact date and time untill when the activatedbs must occur. Or is there a bug in the PIT restore? Or am I missing something? best regards, Kurt
Re: Space Reclamation Eating Tapes
Things have changed in 5.3. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis Melburn W IT743 Sent: maandag 28 november 2005 15:35 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Space Reclamation Eating Tapes Don't think that is it, I only have 2 storage pools out of like 12 that have collocation turned on (these storage pools are for large file servers). So collocation shouldn't be affecting most of them. Mel Dennis Systems Engineer - IT743 Siemens Power Generation 4400 Alafaya Trail Orlando, FL 32826 MC Q1-110 Tel: (407) 736-2360 Win: 439-2360 Fax: (407) 736-5069 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bos, Karel Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 9:30 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Space Reclamation Eating Tapes Sounds like a collocation problem. Q stg / q node / q collocgroup. Regards, Karel -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis Melburn W IT743 Sent: maandag 28 november 2005 15:22 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Space Reclamation Eating Tapes I recently migrated our Windows 2K3 TSM server from 5.2.1.3 to 5.3.2.0 and since then, it seems that whenever I kick off space reclamation for my primary tape storage pools, it eats up scratch tapes, instead of freeing them up. Is there a reason for this? I understand that occasionally TSM will need a scratch tape to combine other tapes, but it should then free those other tapes up and return them to the scratch pool. I've checked the reuse delay on the storage pools, and they are set to 0, so I know that isn't the problem. Mel Dennis
TSM Journal Service communication failure
Hello, we are running TSM BA Client 5.3.0.5 on several Windows 2003 SP1 machines. It runs fine for several days but then there is a "ANS1181E Communication failure with the journal service" which causes the Scheduler service to hang and no more backups are done. Has anyone an idea about the reason of this failure ? Mit freundlichen Grüßen With best regards Uwe Koch Dipl.-Ing. Nachrichtentechnik Server Administrator IBM Business Services GmbH Office ABB Home Phone +49 2351 956-1670+49 2357 171227 Fax +49 2351 956-9670+49 2357 903321 Mobile +49 172 7227900 +49 172 7227900 eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Street Freisenbergstr. 2Jahnstr.13 CityD-58513 Lüdenscheid D-58849 Herscheid Country Germany Germany
Re: help:sysback restore failure
Check with Sysback support, but if memory serves me, that error was fixed in a later patch of Sysback. David >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/28/05 7:31 AM >>> Hi all ,my Sysback server is AIX 5.3 ML 02,the Sysback client is AIX 5.3 ML 02,the sysback version is 5.6.6.1.Every time I wanted to restore the client with the same error message like:could not find the boot logical volume and attempt to build a default boot logical volume,the client LED code is 0c46. What's wrong with it?the server OS version lower than the client OS version?Thanks!
Re: Space Reclamation Eating Tapes
Don't think that is it, I only have 2 storage pools out of like 12 that have collocation turned on (these storage pools are for large file servers). So collocation shouldn't be affecting most of them. Mel Dennis Systems Engineer - IT743 Siemens Power Generation 4400 Alafaya Trail Orlando, FL 32826 MC Q1-110 Tel: (407) 736-2360 Win: 439-2360 Fax: (407) 736-5069 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bos, Karel Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 9:30 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Space Reclamation Eating Tapes Sounds like a collocation problem. Q stg / q node / q collocgroup. Regards, Karel -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis Melburn W IT743 Sent: maandag 28 november 2005 15:22 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Space Reclamation Eating Tapes I recently migrated our Windows 2K3 TSM server from 5.2.1.3 to 5.3.2.0 and since then, it seems that whenever I kick off space reclamation for my primary tape storage pools, it eats up scratch tapes, instead of freeing them up. Is there a reason for this? I understand that occasionally TSM will need a scratch tape to combine other tapes, but it should then free those other tapes up and return them to the scratch pool. I've checked the reuse delay on the storage pools, and they are set to 0, so I know that isn't the problem. Mel Dennis
Re: 3592 Tape Compression
==> On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 13:42:52 +0100, Volker Maibaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Thanks for the answers! > I already assumed that drive compression was on... But I find it a bit > disappointing that the compression ratio is that poor (only 1,4:1). When > you look at the data sheets for 3592 drives they always talk about 3:1 > data compression. For TSM database stgpools, I get 4:1. for DB2 full backups, I get ~7:1 Really, it's all over the map. - Allen S. Rout
Re: Space Reclamation Eating Tapes
Sounds like a collocation problem. Q stg / q node / q collocgroup. Regards, Karel -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis Melburn W IT743 Sent: maandag 28 november 2005 15:22 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Space Reclamation Eating Tapes I recently migrated our Windows 2K3 TSM server from 5.2.1.3 to 5.3.2.0 and since then, it seems that whenever I kick off space reclamation for my primary tape storage pools, it eats up scratch tapes, instead of freeing them up. Is there a reason for this? I understand that occasionally TSM will need a scratch tape to combine other tapes, but it should then free those other tapes up and return them to the scratch pool. I've checked the reuse delay on the storage pools, and they are set to 0, so I know that isn't the problem. Mel Dennis
Space Reclamation Eating Tapes
I recently migrated our Windows 2K3 TSM server from 5.2.1.3 to 5.3.2.0 and since then, it seems that whenever I kick off space reclamation for my primary tape storage pools, it eats up scratch tapes, instead of freeing them up. Is there a reason for this? I understand that occasionally TSM will need a scratch tape to combine other tapes, but it should then free those other tapes up and return them to the scratch pool. I've checked the reuse delay on the storage pools, and they are set to 0, so I know that isn't the problem. Mel Dennis
Point-in-time restore Notes database
Hello, I've got the following setup: TSM server 5.3.2.0 on Windows 2003 Lotus Notes 6.5.2 fixpack 2 running on Windows NT with TSM BA client 5.1.7.3 and TDP Notes 5.1.5.1 The backup scheme for the Notes server is: selective backup on friday evening incremental backup from monday evening till thursday evening archive log backup every 4 hours if the treshold is greater than 80% archive log backup at 04:00 AM without any treshold. I've restore a Notes database from the selective backup without activating it. I know that a mail was sent to the Notes database on 11/22 at 14:46. And as a transaction log backup ran at 11/23 at 04:00h, an entry for this mail must be found in the transaction logs. I start then the point-in-time restore from the CLI with following command: domdsmc activatedbs /applylogs=11/23/2005,06:00:00 The activatedbs ends with the following messages: 11/28/2005 01:45:24 PM Recovery Manager: Media Recovery complete for D:\Notes\Data\mail\testdb.nsf.dad, last update applied 11/22/2005 02:02:06 AM. How does it come that the last applied update is that old when you know that updates occured during the day and that an entry must be found in the transaction logs for it. The mail is of course not found. If I recover a bit further in time, the mail will be found in the Notes database. But you have to gamble for the exact date and time untill when the activatedbs must occur. Or is there a bug in the PIT restore? Or am I missing something? best regards, Kurt
Re: 3592 Tape Compression
Volker, True compression ratio is data-dependent. The more redundant information is found in files, the higher the ratio is For your data it is only '1,4'. The marketing will always use the general assumptions (2:1 or 3:1) as laws of nature and forget that this isn't true. best regards, Kurt From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager on behalf of Volker Maibaum Sent: Mon 28/11/2005 13:42 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] 3592 Tape Compression Thanks for the answers! I already assumed that drive compression was on... But I find it a bit disappointing that the compression ratio is that poor (only 1,4:1). When you look at the data sheets for 3592 drives they always talk about 3:1 data compression. Volker Am Montag, den 28.11.2005, 07:15 -0500 schrieb Richard Sims: > augment
Re: 3592 Tape Compression
Thanks for the answers! I already assumed that drive compression was on... But I find it a bit disappointing that the compression ratio is that poor (only 1,4:1). When you look at the data sheets for 3592 drives they always talk about 3:1 data compression. Volker Am Montag, den 28.11.2005, 07:15 -0500 schrieb Richard Sims: > augment
help:sysback restore failure
Hi all ,my Sysback server is AIX 5.3 ML 02,the Sysback client is AIX 5.3 ML 02,the sysback version is 5.6.6.1.Every time I wanted to restore the client with the same error message like:could not find the boot logical volume and attempt to build a default boot logical volume,the client LED code is 0c46. What's wrong with it?the server OS version lower than the client OS version?Thanks!
Re: Change / upadate tape path
On Nov 28, 2005, at 7:22 AM, Richard Sims wrote: On Nov 28, 2005, at 3:01 AM, Norita binti Hassan wrote: Hi, I'm using TSM 5.2. How do I change my storage pool for server A from stgpool A to stgpool B. It's not clear what you're asking... If you want to change the storage pool's name within the TSM server, use REName STGpool. In the context of TSM questions, "server" refers to the TSM server. If, instead, you mean a TSM client which is performing as a server for things unrelated to TSM, then you can either update the client's current Mgmtclass to define a new MIGDESTination Too early in the morning... I meant to say Update the backup copy group associated with the management class. Richard Sims
Re: Change / upadate tape path
On Nov 28, 2005, at 3:01 AM, Norita binti Hassan wrote: Hi, I'm using TSM 5.2. How do I change my storage pool for server A from stgpool A to stgpool B. It's not clear what you're asking... If you want to change the storage pool's name within the TSM server, use REName STGpool. In the context of TSM questions, "server" refers to the TSM server. If, instead, you mean a TSM client which is performing as a server for things unrelated to TSM, then you can either update the client's current Mgmtclass to define a new MIGDESTination (and reactivate the policy set) or have the client use a different management class. This subject matter is covered in the Admin Guide manual. Richard Sims
Re: Change / upadate tape path
Hi, You need to define a amnagment class with a copygroup that points to the new storage pool, or update an existing managment class copygroup, the parmaeter is 'copydestination' Then, in the include/exclude list for serverA include the files you need to go to storagepoolB to the new/updated managment class. Alternatley, you can define a default managmnet class in a new domain, and place the serverA node in that domain. As the managment class will then be the default, you will not need an include statement in your include/exclude list. Matthew. http://tsmwiki.com/tsmwiki -- Matthew Warren. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://tsmwiki.com/tsmwiki/MatthewWarren -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Norita binti Hassan Sent: 28 November 2005 08:02 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Change / upadate tape path Hi, I'm using TSM 5.2. How do I change my storage pool for server A from stgpool A to stgpool B. NORITA BINTI HASAN Senior Programmer Enterprise Systems Services Information Communications Tech. Div 6th Floor,Pos Malaysia HQ 50670 Kuala Lumpur Tel : 03 - 22756638 Pos Malaysia Berhad is Malaysia's national postal company Visit us online at www.pos.com.my NOTICE This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the addressee or authorised to receive this email, you must not use, copy, disclose or take any action based on this email. If you have received this email in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Pos Malaysia Berhad takes no responsibility for the contents of this email. ___ Disclaimer Notice This message and any attachments are confidential and should only be read by those to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact us, delete the message from your computer and destroy any copies. Any distribution or copying without our prior permission is prohibited. Internet communications are not always secure and therefore the E.ON Group does not accept legal responsibility for this message. The recipient is responsible for verifying its authenticity before acting on the contents. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the E.ON Group. E.ON UK plc, Westwood Way, Westwood Business Park, Coventry, CV4 8LG. Registered in England & Wales No. 2366970 E.ON UK Trading Ltd, Westwood Way, Westwood Business Park, Coventry, CV4 8LG Registered in England & Wales No. 4178314 E.ON UK Trading Ltd is regulated by the Financial Services Authority to carry out investment activities. Telephone +44 (0) 2476 42 4000 Fax +44 (0) 2476 42 5432
Re: 3592 Tape Compression
On Nov 28, 2005, at 6:28 AM, Volker Maibaum wrote: Hello, We have a TSM Server 5.3.2.1 on z/Linux with a 3494 Library and 3592 Tape drives. In the 3592 device class I have used the format=DRIVE option (see below). How can I find out if the data on the volumes is written with drive compression? To augment Stef's response... I'm not aware of a way to inspect the tapes themselves, but you can ask the drives what they are doing: In AIX, the 'lsattr -EHl rmt_' or 'mt -f /dev/rmt_ status' commands will show whether TSM has enabled compression in them, as in response: attribute value descriptionuser_settable compress yesUse Hardware Compression on Tape True The average capacity of my volumes is 430GB (> native 300GB). Now I'm not sure if this is due to client compression or due to drive compression. I'm getting about the same, with Format 3592C. ... Richard Sims http://people.bu.edu/rbs
Re: 3592 Tape Compression
On Monday 28 November 2005 12:28, Volker Maibaum wrote: > Hello, > > We have a TSM Server 5.3.2.1 on z/Linux with a 3494 Library and 3592 > Tape drives. > > In the 3592 device class I have used the format=DRIVE option (see > below). How can I find out if the data on the volumes is written with > drive compression? > The average capacity of my volumes is 430GB (> native 300GB). Now I'm > not sure if this is due to client compression or due to drive > compression. You are using drive compression . Otherwise the average capacity would be 300GB/cartridge. The data is send compressed to TSM so TSM is counting the compressed data. Stef
3592 Tape Compression
Hello, We have a TSM Server 5.3.2.1 on z/Linux with a 3494 Library and 3592 Tape drives. In the 3592 device class I have used the format=DRIVE option (see below). How can I find out if the data on the volumes is written with drive compression? The average capacity of my volumes is 430GB (> native 300GB). Now I'm not sure if this is due to client compression or due to drive compression. May it cause any problems with existing volumes if I change the format option from drive to 3592c? What are real life compression ratios for 3592 Tape Drives ? select avg(EST_CAPACITY_MB) from volumes where status='FULL'- 429021,75045045045045 select max(EST_CAPACITY_MB) from volumes 605664,4 thanks, Volker Configuration -- tsm: TSMSERV>q devcl devc_3592 f=d Device Class Name: DEVC_3592 Device Access Strategy: Sequential Storage Pool Count: 5 Device Type: 3592 Format: DRIVE Est/Max Capacity (MB): 460,800.0 Mount Limit: DRIVES Mount Wait (min): 120 Mount Retention (min): 5 Label Prefix: ADSM Library: ATL3494 Directory: Server Name: Retry Period: Retry Interval: Shared: High-level Address: Minimum Capacity: WORM: No Scaled Capacity: 100 Last Update by (administrator): Last Update Date/Time: 03/14/05 10:17:02 tsm: TSMSERV>q drive f=d Library Name: ATL3494 Drive Name: DRIVE1 Device Type: 3592 On-Line: Yes Read Formats: 3592C,3592 Write Formats: 3592C,3592 Element: Drive State: EMPTY Volume Name: Allocated to: