Output question
Hi to all Running a query event to pick exception status as: q event * * ex=yes begind=-1 begint=17:00 endd=today endt=08:00 c:\tsm\exception.txt Sometimes I got for a long nodename two lines: 08/03/2006 22:45:00 SCHED3 WEBLXN Missed 08/04/2006 04:00:00 DRM_HIGHLEAR- DRM_HIGHLEAR- Missed N_WEB N_WEB 08/04/2006 09:00:00 08/04/2006 09:00:06 DRM_MARVEL DRM_MARVELFailed I have a SQLDISPLAYMODE wide Column Date-Time Arithmetic Cursors Display Format ModeAllowed? Format - -- Wide ISO TruncateYes But still two lines I prefer to run the query event instead of a select command , did is possible to get only one line ?? Regards Robert
Re: crawling system
Gateways can send IPCMP redirects which cause static routes to be added to adapters, This may be the case. It's the gateways way of telling you their is a more direct path to the destination. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gill, Geoffrey L. Sent: 03 August 2006 21:45 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: crawling system Don't overlook network causes...where other people in your shop may be pondering the same problem. Richard Sims I wanted to respond on this and hopefully someone can tell me why this has happened. What I found, and I did see this about a month ago also, was the default gateway had changed on the NIC. There is a built in port with an assigned 10.xxx.xxx.xxx address with a gateway of 10.xxx.xxx.xxx, (Not connected to the network). The GIG port has a completely different IP and what I found was the gateway from the other NIC seemed to have taken over. The first time this happened I forced it back but for whatever reason it changed back again. I've reconfigured again and both NIC's show the proper default gateway. Not sure why this would be happening and maybe someone can shed some light so it won't happen again. Thanks, Geoff Gill TSM Administrator PeopleSoft Sr. Systems Administrator SAIC M/S-G1b (858)826-4062 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ATTENTION: The information in this electronic mail message is private and confidential, and only intended for the addressee. Should you receive this message by mistake, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or use of this message is strictly prohibited. Please inform the sender by reply transmission and delete the message without copying or opening it. Messages and attachments are scanned for all viruses known. If this message contains password-protected attachments, the files have NOT been scanned for viruses by the ING mail domain. Always scan attachments before opening them. -
Best way to move primary sequential stgp
Hi TSM'ers, in addition to my post resp Pending Full I'd like to ask for the following: If I force reclamation runs from stgp A to stgp B, i.e. from tape to tape it takes a lot of time because of Start-Stop of the tapes. Questions: 1. Is there a better way to achieve the same result (e.g. using disk as an intermediate medium) à la move data volid primary_disk_storage_pool migrate stgp primary_disk_storage_pool 2. Any other solution ? Regards, Peter -- MfG / Ciao - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Peter Dümpert Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rechenzentrum der Technischen Universität Fax : ++49/531/391-5549 D 38092 BraunschweigTel : ++49/531/391-5535
SQL Server 2005 support?
Hi *SM-ers! As far as I can find, DP for SQL Server 5.2.1 is the most recent version for backing up SQL Server databases. It support SQL Server 7.0 and 2000. Does anybody know when SQL Server 2005 will be supported by DP for SQL? Thank you very much for any reply! Kindest regards, Eric van Loon KLM Royal Dutch Airlines ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. **
Re: VMFS3 filespace......
Hi, VMFS and especially VMFS3 is special file system with implemented only some functions of classic FS, so probably backup using tivoli will never work, or never work correctly. Try vmware tools (integrated backup or something like) for tivoli, maybe this help. On 8/1/06, Nielsen, Bo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Is there someone who is using TSM to backup VMFS3 filespace on a ESX server 3.0??? Which TSM Client is using, and how is *.VMDK file backed up??? aOaRegards Bo Nielsen * +45 4386 4671 Coop Norden IT * (Internt postcenter): 6244 Data Storage Center * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Remember, a dead fish can float downstream, But it takes a live one to svim upstream. - W.C. Fields. -- --w
Re: Tape-Volume status: pending empty
On Aug 7, 2006, at 4:27 AM, Peter Duempert wrote: But quite a lot of tapes from A have now a volume status of Empty and still belong to A. Standard condition for where volumes were assigned to a stgpool via DEFine Volume. Perform Query Volume and examine the 'Scratch Volume?' value. Yes, you can DELete Volume to remove them from the stgpool, to scratch; but determine why they are as they are: there may be a site reason. Richard Sims
Re: VMFS3 filespace......
Yes it is, but if you quiesce or stop the VM using that VMFS, you can back it up as a normal file from the ESX server using the 5.2.4 Linux TSM client. There are several papers on the TSM site about backing up Vmware ESX server and links from that over to Vmware's site. We do this weekly for our ESX servers...quiesce the VM's one at a time and backup the VMDK files. We have successfully recovered these VM's at our disaster recovery site. Bill Boyer DSS, Inc. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wojtek Piecek Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 7:12 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: VMFS3 filespace.. Hi, VMFS and especially VMFS3 is special file system with implemented only some functions of classic FS, so probably backup using tivoli will never work, or never work correctly. Try vmware tools (integrated backup or something like) for tivoli, maybe this help. On 8/1/06, Nielsen, Bo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Is there someone who is using TSM to backup VMFS3 filespace on a ESX server 3.0??? Which TSM Client is using, and how is *.VMDK file backed up??? aOaRegards Bo Nielsen * +45 4386 4671 Coop Norden IT * (Internt postcenter): 6244 Data Storage Center * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Remember, a dead fish can float downstream, But it takes a live one to svim upstream. - W.C. Fields. -- --w
Re: Output question
Hi, Maybe you could use the -tab (or the -comma) option of dsmadmc to get what you want. It gives you the output on one line although it may require some formatting to make it readable. dsmadmc -id=MyAdmin -pa=MyPassword -tab q ev * * bla.txt Regards, Alexander -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Ouzen Ouzen Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 7:41 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Output question Hi to all Running a query event to pick exception status as: q event * * ex=yes begind=-1 begint=17:00 endd=today endt=08:00 c:\tsm\exception.txt Sometimes I got for a long nodename two lines: 08/03/2006 22:45:00 SCHED3WEBLXN Missed 08/04/2006 04:00:00 DRM_HIGHLEAR- DRM_HIGHLEAR- Missed N_WEB N_WEB 08/04/2006 09:00:00 08/04/2006 09:00:06 DRM_MARVEL DRM_MARVELFailed I have a SQLDISPLAYMODE wide Column Date-Time Arithmetic Cursors Display Format ModeAllowed? Format - -- Wide ISO TruncateYes But still two lines I prefer to run the query event instead of a select command , did is possible to get only one line ?? Regards Robert
Tape-Volume status: pending empty
Hi TSM'ers, I'm doing a lengthy process of moving data from primary tape stg-pool A to another primary tape stg-pool B by having set upda stgp A access=readonly upda stgp A reclaimstgp=B upda stgp A reclaim=0 This setting caused that lengthy Reclamation Precess. Most of the tapes having belonged to A ended in Pending and after delay-period-days went to Scratch (as usual behavior). But quite a lot of tapes from A have now a volume status of Empty and still belong to A. Questions: 1. What's the reason for not having ended in Pending ? 2. I'd like to run a sequence of del vol volid Any objections ? Regards, Peter -- MfG / Ciao - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Peter Dümpert Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rechenzentrum der Technischen Universität Fax : ++49/531/391-5549 D 38092 BraunschweigTel : ++49/531/391-5535
Re: SQL Server 2005 support?
Hi Eric, SQL Server 2005 support was added in November of last year, one day following the official launch of SQL Server 2005 by Microsoft. You will need to obtain Data Protection for SQL version 5.2.1.03 (or later) from the following web site: Where: FTP Site: ftp.software.ibm.com Directory: /storage/tivoli-storage-management/patches/tivoli-data-protection/sql/v521/x32/ FYI... Data Protection for SQL added Windows x64 support as well. Since the Windows x64 is a new platform, if you want the x64 version, you will need to obtain that from the Passport Advantage download site, or by ordering the CD from IBM. This is because the FTP site does not contain the license file that you need to run the product. Thanks, Del ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 08/07/2006 08:27:33 AM: Hi *SM-ers! As far as I can find, DP for SQL Server 5.2.1 is the most recent version for backing up SQL Server databases. It support SQL Server 7.0 and 2000. Does anybody know when SQL Server 2005 will be supported by DP for SQL? Thank you very much for any reply! Kindest regards, Eric van Loon KLM Royal Dutch Airlines
AW: [ADSM-L] SQL Server 2005 support?
Hi Eric, we downloaded the latest patch with SQL 2005 support from ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com/storage/tivoli-storage-management/patches/tivoli-data-protection/sql/v521/x32 HTH Thomas Rupp -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM Gesendet: Montag, 07. August 2006 14:28 An: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Betreff: [ADSM-L] SQL Server 2005 support? Hi *SM-ers! As far as I can find, DP for SQL Server 5.2.1 is the most recent version for backing up SQL Server databases. It support SQL Server 7.0 and 2000. Does anybody know when SQL Server 2005 will be supported by DP for SQL? Thank you very much for any reply! Kindest regards, Eric van Loon KLM Royal Dutch Airlines ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. **
clients can't connect after adding another NIC in a multiple NIC TSM server
I have AIX 5.3 TSM 5.3.0 server with 2 NICs on different networks right now. I am adding a third NIC on yet a different network. After configuring the 3rd NIC in AIX it is pingable and can be logged into. But TSM clients (Windows and UNIX) are unable to connect to the TSM server after bringing this third NIC up. I bring it down and clients can connect. Anyone have ideas, please? Thanks in advance! Jason Amato
Re: crawling system
You should only have one default gateway. All other routing can be taken care of with route statements. Having one default gateway will make the system predictable. Andy Huebner -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rodney clark Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 4:35 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] crawling system Gateways can send IPCMP redirects which cause static routes to be added to adapters, This may be the case. It's the gateways way of telling you their is a more direct path to the destination. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gill, Geoffrey L. Sent: 03 August 2006 21:45 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: crawling system Don't overlook network causes...where other people in your shop may be pondering the same problem. Richard Sims I wanted to respond on this and hopefully someone can tell me why this has happened. What I found, and I did see this about a month ago also, was the default gateway had changed on the NIC. There is a built in port with an assigned 10.xxx.xxx.xxx address with a gateway of 10.xxx.xxx.xxx, (Not connected to the network). The GIG port has a completely different IP and what I found was the gateway from the other NIC seemed to have taken over. The first time this happened I forced it back but for whatever reason it changed back again. I've reconfigured again and both NIC's show the proper default gateway. Not sure why this would be happening and maybe someone can shed some light so it won't happen again. Thanks, Geoff Gill TSM Administrator PeopleSoft Sr. Systems Administrator SAIC M/S-G1b (858)826-4062 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ATTENTION: The information in this electronic mail message is private and confidential, and only intended for the addressee. Should you receive this message by mistake, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or use of this message is strictly prohibited. Please inform the sender by reply transmission and delete the message without copying or opening it. Messages and attachments are scanned for all viruses known. If this message contains password-protected attachments, the files have NOT been scanned for viruses by the ING mail domain. Always scan attachments before opening them. - This e-mail (including any attachments) is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not an intended recipient or an authorized representative of an intended recipient, you are prohibited from using, copying or distributing the information in this e-mail or its attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete all copies of this message and any attachments. Thank you.
Backup of MVS data, leveraging TSM. (bus-tech producs?)
Howdy, all. We've periodically talked about MVS backups, and how they just don't mesh well with TSM's filesystem-oriented attitude. Well, I've stumbled on something in the process of pursuing a tape-abatement project which shows early signs of being a nice back door into TSM treatment of MVS backups; I wanted to wave it around here, and get a sense of whether anyone else had experimented with it. There's a company called 'bus-tech' which sells a gadget that talks ESCON or FICON out one end, and FC-AL or SCSI out the other end. It pretends to be a flock of 3480s and 3490s to the mainframe, and writes the tape images onto a normal EXT3 filesystem. Here's the good part: Installing a TSM client on the appliance box (SUSE) is a supported config. So if you can keep enough disk around for the backups you want to store, you can then do an incr of them, and treat the resulting data stream as you would any other TSM data stream. This could be the solution to the Make the MVS data into a by-god bitstream, PLEASE! problem. We're at the early sales stage of this investigation, so for all I know the ground could be littered with deal-breakers. but the sales engineer I chatted with said they had several other installations using TSM on the appliance. I though there was a good chance one of those was listening here, and might give an opinion. Anyone? - Allen S. Rout
Re: Backup of MVS data, leveraging TSM. (bus-tech producs?)
Hello Allen, We did not use this solution. Our netapp sales person a little while ago proposed using the bus-tech solution with a netapp backend store. As Netapp sells this solution. But our MVS (z/os) folks did not want to look at this solution. len -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allen S. Rout Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 9:49 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] Backup of MVS data, leveraging TSM. (bus-tech producs?) Howdy, all. We've periodically talked about MVS backups, and how they just don't mesh well with TSM's filesystem-oriented attitude. Well, I've stumbled on something in the process of pursuing a tape-abatement project which shows early signs of being a nice back door into TSM treatment of MVS backups; I wanted to wave it around here, and get a sense of whether anyone else had experimented with it. There's a company called 'bus-tech' which sells a gadget that talks ESCON or FICON out one end, and FC-AL or SCSI out the other end. It pretends to be a flock of 3480s and 3490s to the mainframe, and writes the tape images onto a normal EXT3 filesystem. Here's the good part: Installing a TSM client on the appliance box (SUSE) is a supported config. So if you can keep enough disk around for the backups you want to store, you can then do an incr of them, and treat the resulting data stream as you would any other TSM data stream. This could be the solution to the Make the MVS data into a by-god bitstream, PLEASE! problem. We're at the early sales stage of this investigation, so for all I know the ground could be littered with deal-breakers. but the sales engineer I chatted with said they had several other installations using TSM on the appliance. I though there was a good chance one of those was listening here, and might give an opinion. Anyone? - Allen S. Rout
Re: SQL Server 2005 support?
Hi Del! Thank you very much for your quick reply! I wasn't expecting new support in a fix release... Wouldn't it be more logical to create a 5.2.2.0 version containing 2005 support? Now we have to backup production nodes by using a fix release, which I normally would not recommend... Kindest regards, Eric van Loon KLM Royal Dutch Airlines -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Del Hoobler Sent: maandag 7 augustus 2006 14:45 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: SQL Server 2005 support? Hi Eric, SQL Server 2005 support was added in November of last year, one day following the official launch of SQL Server 2005 by Microsoft. You will need to obtain Data Protection for SQL version 5.2.1.03 (or later) from the following web site: Where: FTP Site: ftp.software.ibm.com Directory: /storage/tivoli-storage-management/patches/tivoli-data-protection/sql/v5 21/x32/ FYI... Data Protection for SQL added Windows x64 support as well. Since the Windows x64 is a new platform, if you want the x64 version, you will need to obtain that from the Passport Advantage download site, or by ordering the CD from IBM. This is because the FTP site does not contain the license file that you need to run the product. Thanks, Del ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 08/07/2006 08:27:33 AM: Hi *SM-ers! As far as I can find, DP for SQL Server 5.2.1 is the most recent version for backing up SQL Server databases. It support SQL Server 7.0 and 2000. Does anybody know when SQL Server 2005 will be supported by DP for SQL? Thank you very much for any reply! Kindest regards, Eric van Loon KLM Royal Dutch Airlines ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. **
wrong versioning
Hello, We use TSM 5.3.2.2 on clinet side and 5.3.1 on server side. On client on W2K3 server we use journalling. Our problem is during backup versioning does not work properly. It backups up same files as much as the version given in management class. Is there anyone who had a similar problem? Regards, Halime Orhon
Re: VMFS3 filespace......
On 8/7/06, William Boyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes it is, but if you quiesce or stop the VM using that VMFS, you can back it up as a normal file from the ESX server using the 5.2.4 Linux TSM client. There are several papers on the TSM site about backing up Vmware ESX server and links from that over to Vmware's site. Backing up virtual machine by backing up their file system is (not only in my opinion) generally dangerous - data is not consistent. We use tivoli client on ESX server (by the way - still 2.5.3p1) AND tivoli clients on each virtual machine. This guarantee REAL consistence of data in virtualization machine (ESX) and in virtual environment. We do this weekly for our ESX servers...quiesce the VM's one at a time and backup the VMDK files. We have successfully recovered these VM's at our disaster recovery site. This generaly depend on type of virtual machine - if machine is for example SQL server, probability of successfully recovering machine is very, very small. Machine which generally do something and wait for another request (www server, for example) can be backed up using tivoli client on ESX server. And, of course, this is only our and our integrator (ibm) experience, maybe in another environment (we have for now 4 ESX machine with aprox. 25 virtual machine, most of them are linux) Bill Boyer DSS, Inc. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wojtek Piecek Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 7:12 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: VMFS3 filespace.. Hi, VMFS and especially VMFS3 is special file system with implemented only some functions of classic FS, so probably backup using tivoli will never work, or never work correctly. Try vmware tools (integrated backup or something like) for tivoli, maybe this help. On 8/1/06, Nielsen, Bo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Is there someone who is using TSM to backup VMFS3 filespace on a ESX server 3.0??? Which TSM Client is using, and how is *.VMDK file backed up??? aOaRegards Bo Nielsen * +45 4386 4671 Coop Norden IT * (Internt postcenter): 6244 Data Storage Center * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Remember, a dead fish can float downstream, But it takes a live one to svim upstream. - W.C. Fields. -- --w -- --w
Re: SQL Server 2005 support?
Hi Eric, Data Protection clients do not have a new release (or even a PTF) near as often as the BA client does. But, there are still situations like this where we try to get customers the support they need, as soon as we can. Sometimes that means, putting this kind of support into a fix release. Customer always have the option of not installing a fix release, and waiting for the next PTF or release of that Data Protection client. Also note that Microsoft made it quite easy for vendors to add SQL Server 2005 support because they made almost everything backward compatible. There were only very minor changes that had to be made. Thanks, Del ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 08/07/2006 10:00:00 AM: Hi Del! Thank you very much for your quick reply! I wasn't expecting new support in a fix release... Wouldn't it be more logical to create a 5.2.2.0 version containing 2005 support? Now we have to backup production nodes by using a fix release, which I normally would not recommend... Kindest regards, Eric van Loon KLM Royal Dutch Airlines
Re: crawling system
You should only have one default gateway. All other routing can be taken care of with route statements. I do only have one default gateway. The thing I was trying to get someone to explain to me was, why the default gateway I originally put in when I configured the system has changed twice without any intervention. I am the only one with access to the server so to find it in a state I did not configure it is awfully odd. I have never seen this happen on any other computer. Thanks, Geoff Gill TSM Administrator PeopleSoft Sr. Systems Administrator SAIC M/S-G1b (858)826-4062 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DISASTER Recovery, Device Config and 3584 SCSI LIBRARY
I'm preparing for our annual DR test and this will be the first time recovering with a 3584 library with LTO3 drives. In the past we had STK Powderhorn and ACSLS. We will have identical equipment at our disaster site. When we arrive all the tapes will be pre-loaded into the tape library by the dr site staff. Within the devconfig file there are libraryinventory scsi ltolib statements. Do I delete all of these and just leave one that represents my database backup tape? I plan on issuing the following command: dsmserv restore db dev=3584lto vol=xx commit=yes. Will this work in conjunction with the devconfig statement? Do I need to know and update the devconfig file with every element number for every tape? I will have about 150 tapes? How does TSM know where all the other tapes are in the library? Thank you, Laura DISCLAIMER: This communication, along with any documents, files or attachments, is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain legally privileged and confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of any information contained in or attached to this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy the original communication and its attachments without reading, printing or saving in any manner. This communication does not form any contractual obligation on behalf of the sender or, the sender's employer, or the employer's parent company, affiliates or subsidiaries.
Re: VMFS3 filespace......
ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 08/07/2006 10:20:08 AM: Backing up virtual machine by backing up their file system is (not only in my opinion) generally dangerous - data is not consistent. We use tivoli client on ESX server (by the way - still 2.5.3p1) AND tivoli clients on each virtual machine. This guarantee REAL consistence of data in virtualization machine (ESX) and in virtual environment. Please check the VMWare ESX documentation. There is an approved way to suspend (not stop) a given VM so that a backup can be made of the file containing the VM with the TSM client installed on the host OS. The process can be worked into PRESCHEDCMD and POSTSCHEDCMD so that consistent images can be backed up. There are also third-party packages that do the same thing, only with more bells and whistles. -- Mark Stapleton US Bank Backup and Recovery -- Electronic Privacy Notice. This e-mail, and any attachments, contains information that is, or may be, covered by electronic communications privacy laws, and is also confidential and proprietary in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that you are legally prohibited from retaining, using, copying, distributing, or otherwise disclosing this information in any manner. Instead, please reply to the sender that you have received this communication in error, and then immediately delete it. Thank you in advance for your cooperation. ==
Re: VMFS3 filespace......
All VMware Users: Using the VMware Consolidated backup you can do file level backups of windows machines and system backups of other clients. There is documentation on the VMware website about how to do this. http://pubs.vmware.com/vi3/wwhelp/wwhimpl/js/html/wwhelp.htm There is also a zip file that contains all the scripts that will be required. All of this is from VMware. Email me if you want the zip file. Enjoy! Aaron On Mon, 2006-08-07 at 11:04 -0500, Mark Stapleton wrote: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 08/07/2006 10:20:08 AM: Backing up virtual machine by backing up their file system is (not only in my opinion) generally dangerous - data is not consistent. We use tivoli client on ESX server (by the way - still 2.5.3p1) AND tivoli clients on each virtual machine. This guarantee REAL consistence of data in virtualization machine (ESX) and in virtual environment. Please check the VMWare ESX documentation. There is an approved way to suspend (not stop) a given VM so that a backup can be made of the file containing the VM with the TSM client installed on the host OS. The process can be worked into PRESCHEDCMD and POSTSCHEDCMD so that consistent images can be backed up. There are also third-party packages that do the same thing, only with more bells and whistles. -- Mark Stapleton US Bank Backup and Recovery -- Electronic Privacy Notice. This e-mail, and any attachments, contains information that is, or may be, covered by electronic communications privacy laws, and is also confidential and proprietary in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that you are legally prohibited from retaining, using, copying, distributing, or otherwise disclosing this information in any manner. Instead, please reply to the sender that you have received this communication in error, and then immediately delete it. Thank you in advance for your cooperation. ==
Re: Tape Drive Choices: What, and why?
At 03:21 PM 8/3/2006, Kelly Lipp wrote: I'll echo Paul's comments with one additional: SDLT is not helical scan, AIT and SAIT are. Oh, duh. I knew that. sorry for any confusion. -- Paul ZarnowskiPh: 607-255-4757 Manager, Storage Services Fx: 607-255-8521 719 Rhodes Hall, Ithaca, NY 14853-3801Em: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FW: Tape Drive Choices: What, and why?
At 12:34 PM 8/4/2006, Prather, Wanda wrote: 1) When LTO drives fail, they don't get repaired. The CE just comes in and replaces them. They are essentially BIC drives - plastic parts, no refills. My understanding was that the IBM drives were more robust, because they used no plastic parts. I've not seen that in writing anywhere. They are more expensive, but IMHO worth the extra $ over the HP drives. When reading/commenting on LTO drives, be aware of which vendor's drives your talking about. They aren't all equal. The LTO spec says that a tape written on one vendor's drive should be readable on another vendor's drive, not that they are manufactured the same. -- Paul ZarnowskiPh: 607-255-4757 Manager, Storage Services Fx: 607-255-8521 719 Rhodes Hall, Ithaca, NY 14853-3801Em: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VMFS3 filespace......
Just as clarification on this, I know it's available for Virtual Infrastructure 3, but I don't think you can use it with ESX 2.x. Or have I already been proven wrong on that? Aaron Becar [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8/7/2006 1:57 PM All VMware Users: Using the VMware Consolidated backup you can do file level backups of windows machines and system backups of other clients. There is documentation on the VMware website about how to do this. http://pubs.vmware.com/vi3/wwhelp/wwhimpl/js/html/wwhelp.htm There is also a zip file that contains all the scripts that will be required. All of this is from VMware. Email me if you want the zip file. Enjoy! Aaron On Mon, 2006-08-07 at 11:04 -0500, Mark Stapleton wrote: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 08/07/2006 10:20:08 AM: Backing up virtual machine by backing up their file system is (not only in my opinion) generally dangerous - data is not consistent. We use tivoli client on ESX server (by the way - still 2.5.3p1) AND tivoli clients on each virtual machine. This guarantee REAL consistence of data in virtualization machine (ESX) and in virtual environment. Please check the VMWare ESX documentation. There is an approved way to suspend (not stop) a given VM so that a backup can be made of the file containing the VM with the TSM client installed on the host OS. The process can be worked into PRESCHEDCMD and POSTSCHEDCMD so that consistent images can be backed up. There are also third-party packages that do the same thing, only with more bells and whistles. -- Mark Stapleton US Bank Backup and Recovery -- Electronic Privacy Notice. This e-mail, and any attachments, contains information that is, or may be, covered by electronic communications privacy laws, and is also confidential and proprietary in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that you are legally prohibited from retaining, using, copying, distributing, or otherwise disclosing this information in any manner. Instead, please reply to the sender that you have received this communication in error, and then immediately delete it. Thank you in advance for your cooperation. == Confidentiality Notice follows: The information in this message (and the documents attached to it, if any) is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this message by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken, or omitted to be taken in reliance on it is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this message in error, please delete all electronic copies of this message (and the documents attached to it, if any), destroy any hard copies you may have created and notify me immediately by replying to this email. Thank you.
Re: VMFS3 filespace......
This is part of the new ESX 3 server. There are different processes for backing up ESX 2.x servers. If you go to the TSM support page and search on VMWARE you will find this one in particular which has a lot of links to resources on both IBM and Vmware sites. http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=663context=SSGSG7q1=vmwareuid=swg21175860loc=en_UScs=utf-8lang=en Then there's this Tivoli Field Guide - Using IBM Tivoli Storage Manager for Backup and Restore on the VMware ESX Console http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=663context=SSGSG7q1=vmwareuid=swg27005205loc=en_UScs=utf-8lang=en These processes use the Vmware API and some scripting on the ESX console to either shutdown, pause or put the VM in a redo log mode. Then you can backup the physical disk file(s) that make up that VM. This will provide a consistant image, but depending on what's going on in the VM itself it may not be a viable backup for application recovery. As was pointed out in an earlier post, if the VM is a SQLServer with open databases at the time, the recovery of the SQL database(s) from the vmdk backup may not be useful. You still need to run TSM (and agents) within the VM to get the file-level granularity. We do a weekly backup of the vmdk files for each VM as well as daily incremental backups withing the VM. Our recovery for a VM is to restore the vmdk file(s) that make up the VM, rebuild the definition if that is wiped also. At this point you should have a bootable VM. Then from withing the restored VM, run a TSM file-level restore with IFNEWER. It's not going to handle any deleted files since the vmdk full backup was done. We have successfully done this for recoveries at our site as well as at D/R. We are just now getting a new ESX 3.0 server installed and I'm looking forward to experimenting with the new features Vmware incorporated in this version. There is also a very detailed Perl script VMBK.PL that can do several different methods of backing up ESX 2.x servers. It can be found here http://www.vmts.net/vmbk.htm. It is a freeware (I believe) tool. I have not tried it myself. It does not interface with TSM, but it does work with Legato. So changes to use TSM shouldn't be very difficult. How much work you would put into something like this, or even the above procedures would depend on how long you will be supporting ESX2.x servers before moving to the 3.0 release. Bill Boyer Backup my harddrive? How do I put it in reverse? - ?? -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Troy Frank Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 5:15 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: VMFS3 filespace.. Just as clarification on this, I know it's available for Virtual Infrastructure 3, but I don't think you can use it with ESX 2.x. Or have I already been proven wrong on that? Aaron Becar [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8/7/2006 1:57 PM All VMware Users: Using the VMware Consolidated backup you can do file level backups of windows machines and system backups of other clients. There is documentation on the VMware website about how to do this. http://pubs.vmware.com/vi3/wwhelp/wwhimpl/js/html/wwhelp.htm There is also a zip file that contains all the scripts that will be required. All of this is from VMware. Email me if you want the zip file. Enjoy! Aaron On Mon, 2006-08-07 at 11:04 -0500, Mark Stapleton wrote: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 08/07/2006 10:20:08 AM: Backing up virtual machine by backing up their file system is (not only in my opinion) generally dangerous - data is not consistent. We use tivoli client on ESX server (by the way - still 2.5.3p1) AND tivoli clients on each virtual machine. This guarantee REAL consistence of data in virtualization machine (ESX) and in virtual environment. Please check the VMWare ESX documentation. There is an approved way to suspend (not stop) a given VM so that a backup can be made of the file containing the VM with the TSM client installed on the host OS. The process can be worked into PRESCHEDCMD and POSTSCHEDCMD so that consistent images can be backed up. There are also third-party packages that do the same thing, only with more bells and whistles. -- Mark Stapleton US Bank Backup and Recovery -- Electronic Privacy Notice. This e-mail, and any attachments, contains information that is, or may be, covered by electronic communications privacy laws, and is also confidential and proprietary in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that you are legally prohibited from retaining, using, copying, distributing, or otherwise disclosing this information in any manner. Instead, please reply to the sender that you have received this communication in error, and then immediately delete it. Thank you in advance for your cooperation.
failed (return code 12)
We see this error once in a while and I'm wondering if anyone has any particular insight as to the cause. Here is what I found in the TSM server log that I'm guessing caused the report. The backup ran for 1:43 minutes before this happened and did complete with the failure. If it is not maybe someone has something specific to look for. 08/06/2006 21:43:28 ANR0440W Protocol error on session 44536 for node Node12(WinNT) - invalid verb header received.(SESSION: 44536) 08/06/2006 21:43:31 ANR0484W Session 44536 for node node12 (WinNT) terminated - protocol violation detected.(SESSION: 44536) Thanks, Geoff Gill TSM Administrator PeopleSoft Sr. Systems Administrator SAIC M/S-G1b (858)826-4062 Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VMFS3 filespace......
On 8/7/06, Mark Stapleton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 08/07/2006 10:20:08 AM: Backing up virtual machine by backing up their file system is (not only in my opinion) generally dangerous - data is not consistent. We use tivoli client on ESX server (by the way - still 2.5.3p1) AND tivoli clients on each virtual machine. This guarantee REAL consistence of data in virtualization machine (ESX) and in virtual environment. Please check the VMWare ESX documentation. There is an approved way to suspend (not stop) a given VM so that a backup can be made of the file containing the VM with the TSM client installed on the host OS. The process can be worked into PRESCHEDCMD and POSTSCHEDCMD so that consistent images can be backed up. Uhm, our esx work in real production environment, so we cant suspend machine. And, to be more critical, we haven't dedicated backup window ... There are also third-party packages that do the same thing, only with more bells and whistles. -- Mark Stapleton US Bank Backup and Recovery -- Electronic Privacy Notice. This e-mail, and any attachments, contains information that is, or may be, covered by electronic communications privacy laws, and is also confidential and proprietary in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that you are legally prohibited from retaining, using, copying, distributing, or otherwise disclosing this information in any manner. Instead, please reply to the sender that you have received this communication in error, and then immediately delete it. Thank you in advance for your cooperation. == -- --w
Re: VMFS3 filespace......
Get the documentation. It describes several different methods of backing up a VM. Shutting down the VM, pausing the VM and using a functioin ADDREDO which leaves the VM running and changed blocks are written/saved to the redo file. At the end of the backup you issue a COMMIT of the redo log into the VM. Here's some links. http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=663context=SSGSG7q1=vmwareuid=swg21175860loc=en_UScs=utf-8lang=en Then there's this Tivoli Field Guide - Using IBM Tivoli Storage Manager for Backup and Restore on the VMware ESX Console http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=663context=SSGSG7q1=vmwareuid=swg27005205loc=en_UScs=utf-8lang=en Bill Boyer My problem was caused my a loose screw at the keyboard - ?? -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wojtek Piecek Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 7:36 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: VMFS3 filespace.. On 8/7/06, Mark Stapleton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 08/07/2006 10:20:08 AM: Backing up virtual machine by backing up their file system is (not only in my opinion) generally dangerous - data is not consistent. We use tivoli client on ESX server (by the way - still 2.5.3p1) AND tivoli clients on each virtual machine. This guarantee REAL consistence of data in virtualization machine (ESX) and in virtual environment. Please check the VMWare ESX documentation. There is an approved way to suspend (not stop) a given VM so that a backup can be made of the file containing the VM with the TSM client installed on the host OS. The process can be worked into PRESCHEDCMD and POSTSCHEDCMD so that consistent images can be backed up. Uhm, our esx work in real production environment, so we cant suspend machine. And, to be more critical, we haven't dedicated backup window ... There are also third-party packages that do the same thing, only with more bells and whistles. -- Mark Stapleton US Bank Backup and Recovery -- Electronic Privacy Notice. This e-mail, and any attachments, contains information that is, or may be, covered by electronic communications privacy laws, and is also confidential and proprietary in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that you are legally prohibited from retaining, using, copying, distributing, or otherwise disclosing this information in any manner. Instead, please reply to the sender that you have received this communication in error, and then immediately delete it. Thank you in advance for your cooperation. == -- --w
Re: failed (return code 12)
Gill, What do you find in the dsmerror.log file found on the client machine. len -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gill, Geoffrey L. Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 7:17 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] failed (return code 12) We see this error once in a while and I'm wondering if anyone has any particular insight as to the cause. Here is what I found in the TSM server log that I'm guessing caused the report. The backup ran for 1:43 minutes before this happened and did complete with the failure. If it is not maybe someone has something specific to look for. 08/06/2006 21:43:28 ANR0440W Protocol error on session 44536 for node Node12(WinNT) - invalid verb header received.(SESSION: 44536) 08/06/2006 21:43:31 ANR0484W Session 44536 for node node12 (WinNT) terminated - protocol violation detected.(SESSION: 44536) Thanks, Geoff Gill TSM Administrator PeopleSoft Sr. Systems Administrator SAIC M/S-G1b (858)826-4062 Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
