Re: backing up just a few directories?

2007-07-18 Thread Dirk Kastens

Hi,


I tried putting a non-mount point in the domain line, but the client
didn't like that.  Recommendations?


You can use the virtualmountpoint option on unix clients.
Place the following option in dsm.sys:

virtualmountpoint /etc

and then define /etc as a domain in dsm.opt:

domain /etc

This will only backup your /etc directory.

--
Viele Gruesse,

Dirk Kastens
Universitaet Osnabrueck, Rechenzentrum (Computer Center)
Albrechtstr. 28, 49069 Osnabrueck, Germany
Tel.: +49-541-969-2347, FAX: -2470


eVault vs. TSM

2007-07-18 Thread Kalyan Krishnaswamy
Has any one run into evault as a competitor to TSM? Can anyone share their
experiences if you have worked with eVault in the past specifically as it
relates to iSeries?

Thanks


Re: backing up just a few directories?

2007-07-18 Thread Lee, Gary D.
For Dave:

Try using the "virtualmountpoint".
This allows just what you want.  It telss tsm to treat the specified
directory tree as if it were a real mountpoint.
Good luck.
 


Gary Lee
Senior System Programmer
Ball State University
phone: 765-285-1310

 
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Dave Mussulman
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 1:07 PM
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Subject: backing up just a few directories?

I have a few systems I'd like to add to TSM but only backup a few
directory hierarchies.  These aren't always mount points (for example,
the /etc directory under the / mount point.)  Does TSM really not have a
way for me to define "just back up X" without worrying about anything
else on that mount?  I know I can do a

exclude /.../*
include /etc/.../*

but then I get all the directories backed up all over /.  I could append
exclude.dirs for the larger hierarchies (/lib, /usr, etc.) but that
seems awkward too.  I feel like I'm going at this problem the wrong way,
but I haven't found a right way.

I tried putting a non-mount point in the domain line, but the client
didn't like that.  Recommendations?

Thanks,
Dave


Re: backing up just a few directories?

2007-07-18 Thread Helder Garcia

Take a look at the "virtual mountpoint" feature on the Backup Archive Client
Installation and User's Guide.

On 7/18/07, Dave Mussulman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I have a few systems I'd like to add to TSM but only backup a few
directory hierarchies.  These aren't always mount points (for example,
the /etc directory under the / mount point.)  Does TSM really not have a
way for me to define "just back up X" without worrying about anything
else on that mount?  I know I can do a

exclude /.../*
include /etc/.../*

but then I get all the directories backed up all over /.  I could append
exclude.dirs for the larger hierarchies (/lib, /usr, etc.) but that
seems awkward too.  I feel like I'm going at this problem the wrong way,
but I haven't found a right way.

I tried putting a non-mount point in the domain line, but the client
didn't like that.  Recommendations?

Thanks,
Dave





--
Helder Garcia


Re: backing up just a few directories?

2007-07-18 Thread Richard Sims

On Jul 18, 2007, at 1:06 PM, Dave Mussulman wrote:


I have a few systems I'd like to add to TSM but only backup a few
directory hierarchies.  These aren't always mount points (for example,
the /etc directory under the / mount point.)  Does TSM really not
have a
way for me to define "just back up X" without worrying about anything
else on that mount?  I know I can do a

exclude /.../*
include /etc/.../*

but then I get all the directories backed up all over /.  I could
append
exclude.dirs for the larger hierarchies (/lib, /usr, etc.) but that
seems awkward too.  I feel like I'm going at this problem the wrong
way,
but I haven't found a right way.

I tried putting a non-mount point in the domain line, but the client
didn't like that.  Recommendations?


Get familiar with TSM facilities to be able to choose from the
possibilities it provides.

If you want to always backup up just /etc, then define that as a
VIRTUALMountpoint and then code it on the DOMain statement.  Then, /
etc will become a TSM filespace.  Another possibility: The dsmc
Incremental command accepts a file system, directory, or file, so you
could instead specify that as the OBJects value of a client schedule
(OBJects="/etc/").

  Richard Sims


Re: backing up just a few directories?

2007-07-18 Thread Andrew Raibeck
Specify the directories in the command line, e.g.:

   dsmc i /dir1/ /dir2/ /etc/ -subdir=yes

etc.

You can define a separate schedule for the machine and put the directories
in the OBJECTS field of the schedule, e.g.:

   def schedule standard special objects="/dir1/ /dir2/ /etc/"
options="-subdir=yes"

Regards,

Andy

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IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development
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"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"  wrote on 2007-07-18
10:06:49:

> I have a few systems I'd like to add to TSM but only backup a few
> directory hierarchies.  These aren't always mount points (for example,
> the /etc directory under the / mount point.)  Does TSM really not have a
> way for me to define "just back up X" without worrying about anything
> else on that mount?  I know I can do a
>
> exclude /.../*
> include /etc/.../*
>
> but then I get all the directories backed up all over /.  I could append
> exclude.dirs for the larger hierarchies (/lib, /usr, etc.) but that
> seems awkward too.  I feel like I'm going at this problem the wrong way,
> but I haven't found a right way.
>
> I tried putting a non-mount point in the domain line, but the client
> didn't like that.  Recommendations?
>
> Thanks,
> Dave


Re: TSM Server DB Backups

2007-07-18 Thread Lawrence Clark
Our sequence:
backup
db backup
disk to copy pool
migration
cartridge primary pool to copypool (in case some did not complete
before migration)
db backup
expiration
reclamation

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/18/2007 2:13 PM >>>
Wouldn't you want to backup primary to copy before migration?  That
way
you're doing that from disk.  If you migrate then backup primary to
copy, you're doing the copy from tape to tape, rather than from disk
to
tape.  In addition, it gets your offsite copies created earlier in the
cycle, so that you can hand them to your offsite storage vendor.

What about this order?

Backup
Backup primary to copy
Backup db
Get copies & DB backup offsite
Migration
Expiration
Reclamation
Second DB backup if you've got time (perhaps to disk)
Start all over again

---
W. Curtis Preston
Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com
VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of
Mark Scott
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 6:30 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM Server DB Backups

I believe the best practise is

Backup
Migration
Backup primary to copy
Backup db
Expiration
Reclamation
Start all over again

:)

Cheers

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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of
Timothy Hughes
Sent: Wednesday, 18 July 2007 9:14 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM Server DB Backups

We actually backup ours after nightly backups complete and before
migration. Is there a
specific recommended order or is it up to each individual site and
it's
environment?

Helder Garcia wrote:

> You should backup db after migration and before expiration.
>
> On 7/17/07, Gregory Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> How many times a day should I be backing up the TSM DB and should
it
be
>> after migration?
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Greg
>>
>>
>> ***
>> Gregory Lynch
>> Lead Programmer Analyst
>> IT Infrastructure/Systems Administration
>> Stony Brook University Medical Center
>> HSC Level 3, Room 121  ZIP 8037
>> Phone: 631-444-9783
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: TSM Server DB Backups

2007-07-18 Thread Curtis Preston
Wouldn't you want to backup primary to copy before migration?  That way
you're doing that from disk.  If you migrate then backup primary to
copy, you're doing the copy from tape to tape, rather than from disk to
tape.  In addition, it gets your offsite copies created earlier in the
cycle, so that you can hand them to your offsite storage vendor.

What about this order?

Backup
Backup primary to copy
Backup db
Get copies & DB backup offsite
Migration
Expiration
Reclamation
Second DB backup if you've got time (perhaps to disk)
Start all over again

---
W. Curtis Preston
Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com
VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies 

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Mark Scott
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 6:30 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM Server DB Backups

I believe the best practise is

Backup
Migration
Backup primary to copy
Backup db
Expiration
Reclamation
Start all over again

:)

Cheers 

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Timothy Hughes
Sent: Wednesday, 18 July 2007 9:14 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM Server DB Backups

We actually backup ours after nightly backups complete and before
migration. Is there a
specific recommended order or is it up to each individual site and it's
environment?

Helder Garcia wrote:

> You should backup db after migration and before expiration.
>
> On 7/17/07, Gregory Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> How many times a day should I be backing up the TSM DB and should it
be
>> after migration?
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Greg
>>
>>
>> ***
>> Gregory Lynch
>> Lead Programmer Analyst
>> IT Infrastructure/Systems Administration
>> Stony Brook University Medical Center
>> HSC Level 3, Room 121  ZIP 8037
>> Phone: 631-444-9783
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
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>
>
>
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backing up just a few directories?

2007-07-18 Thread Dave Mussulman
I have a few systems I'd like to add to TSM but only backup a few
directory hierarchies.  These aren't always mount points (for example,
the /etc directory under the / mount point.)  Does TSM really not have a
way for me to define "just back up X" without worrying about anything
else on that mount?  I know I can do a

exclude /.../*
include /etc/.../*

but then I get all the directories backed up all over /.  I could append
exclude.dirs for the larger hierarchies (/lib, /usr, etc.) but that
seems awkward too.  I feel like I'm going at this problem the wrong way,
but I haven't found a right way.

I tried putting a non-mount point in the domain line, but the client
didn't like that.  Recommendations?

Thanks,
Dave


Re: Checkout full, unchanging tape volumes

2007-07-18 Thread Angus Macdonald
After a bit more thought, I believe I follow the problem through now. Our 
offsite copy tape pool supports multiple primary pools and IS subject to 
reclamation so presumably the full tapes in the primary (unchanging) pool will 
still be read on occasion to support reclamation on the offsite copy pool.

Thanks for clearing my head Richard.
Angus

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Richard Sims
Sent: 18 July 2007 15:12
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Checkout full, unchanging tape volumes


On Jul 18, 2007, at 8:40 AM, Angus Macdonald wrote:

> So can I take it my suggestion won't work?

Checking tapes out of a library will work to create empty cells in
the library, but is problematic in that it is an "out of band"
measure.  TSM is enterprise software, with a rules set and regimen to
assure that all pieces are consistent and aware of one another such
that automated operations can work.  It is implicit that investing in
enterprise level software involves an equivalent commitment to
enterprise hardware, with adequate capacity and performance -
including all data being resident in managed libraries.  By TSM
conventions, tapes which leave a library are to be copy storage pool
volumes marked as Offsite, where their life cycle can be tracked by
automated facilities and be dealt with appropriately in all phases.
For example, Reclamation will not sit in a stupor waiting for such a
tape to be mounted, instead calling for mounts of the primary copy of
the data, which is still in the library.  As you can see from the
Managing a Full Library topic in the Admin Guide, you have to go
through gyrations to fabricate an alternate reality for primary
storage pool volumes, including dealing with mount requests and
allied handling of tapes which are outside the library.  This is not
something you really want to do.

Richard Sims


Re: Checkout full, unchanging tape volumes

2007-07-18 Thread Angus Macdonald
Thanks for that Richard. Reclamation should not be an issue because the content 
of a full tape in this pool never changes. Once full, the tapes just sit there 
taking up space. I've noticed in TSMManager that I have the option to checkout 
a tape to onsite storage so I may experiment with that.

I agree that the real solution is more library capacity but in a cash-strapped 
environment with wildly differing budgets from year-to-year, it's neccessary to 
take a creative approach sometimes. Once you add in the fact that the system is 
*actually* managed by an external company that nevertheless has no in-house 
Tivoli skills you can start to appreciate the situation I find myself in all 
too often ;-)

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Richard Sims
Sent: 18 July 2007 15:12
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Checkout full, unchanging tape volumes


On Jul 18, 2007, at 8:40 AM, Angus Macdonald wrote:

> So can I take it my suggestion won't work?

Checking tapes out of a library will work to create empty cells in
the library, but is problematic in that it is an "out of band"
measure.  TSM is enterprise software, with a rules set and regimen to
assure that all pieces are consistent and aware of one another such
that automated operations can work.  It is implicit that investing in
enterprise level software involves an equivalent commitment to
enterprise hardware, with adequate capacity and performance -
including all data being resident in managed libraries.  By TSM
conventions, tapes which leave a library are to be copy storage pool
volumes marked as Offsite, where their life cycle can be tracked by
automated facilities and be dealt with appropriately in all phases.
For example, Reclamation will not sit in a stupor waiting for such a
tape to be mounted, instead calling for mounts of the primary copy of
the data, which is still in the library.  As you can see from the
Managing a Full Library topic in the Admin Guide, you have to go
through gyrations to fabricate an alternate reality for primary
storage pool volumes, including dealing with mount requests and
allied handling of tapes which are outside the library.  This is not
something you really want to do.

Richard Sims


Re: Checkout full, unchanging tape volumes

2007-07-18 Thread Richard Sims

On Jul 18, 2007, at 8:40 AM, Angus Macdonald wrote:


So can I take it my suggestion won't work?


Checking tapes out of a library will work to create empty cells in
the library, but is problematic in that it is an "out of band"
measure.  TSM is enterprise software, with a rules set and regimen to
assure that all pieces are consistent and aware of one another such
that automated operations can work.  It is implicit that investing in
enterprise level software involves an equivalent commitment to
enterprise hardware, with adequate capacity and performance -
including all data being resident in managed libraries.  By TSM
conventions, tapes which leave a library are to be copy storage pool
volumes marked as Offsite, where their life cycle can be tracked by
automated facilities and be dealt with appropriately in all phases.
For example, Reclamation will not sit in a stupor waiting for such a
tape to be mounted, instead calling for mounts of the primary copy of
the data, which is still in the library.  As you can see from the
Managing a Full Library topic in the Admin Guide, you have to go
through gyrations to fabricate an alternate reality for primary
storage pool volumes, including dealing with mount requests and
allied handling of tapes which are outside the library.  This is not
something you really want to do.

   Richard Sims


Re: TSM Server DB Backups

2007-07-18 Thread Cory Heikel
I agree with Mark on this one, with the exception that I would do the drm 
processing after backing up the primary to the copypool, and then backup the db 
and then run a prepare. That way the copypool volumes show up as offsite and 
won't be marked as destroyed in case of a disaster.
 
Cory Heikel
Tivoli Systems Administrator
Hershey Medical Center
(717) 531-7972

>>> Mark Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 7/18/2007 9:29 AM >>>
I believe the best practise is

Backup
Migration
Backup primary to copy
Backup db
Expiration
Reclamation
Start all over again

:)

Cheers 

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Timothy Hughes
Sent: Wednesday, 18 July 2007 9:14 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM Server DB Backups

We actually backup ours after nightly backups complete and before
migration. Is there a
specific recommended order or is it up to each individual site and it's
environment?

Helder Garcia wrote:

> You should backup db after migration and before expiration.
>
> On 7/17/07, Gregory Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> How many times a day should I be backing up the TSM DB and should it
be
>> after migration?
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Greg
>>
>>
>> ***
>> Gregory Lynch
>> Lead Programmer Analyst
>> IT Infrastructure/Systems Administration
>> Stony Brook University Medical Center
>> HSC Level 3, Room 121  ZIP 8037
>> Phone: 631-444-9783
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>>
>> This e- mail message, including any attachments,
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Re: TSM Server DB Backups

2007-07-18 Thread David E Ehresman
As always, it depends . . .

Our TSM DB is on raided enterprise disk (IBM DS8100 behind a SAN Volume 
control) as is our TSM LOGs.  We run our logs in roll forward mode.  The odds 
of losing both the DB and LOG except in a DR situation is small. If we have to 
restore the DB, we can roll forward using the logs. If we lose the logs, we can 
do a DB backups and have a clean restore point with the new logs.

So DR is our main concern.  Therefore, we backup DB right after our Backup STG 
to make offsite copies of the data.

Our order is:
Backup
Backup Primary to copy
Backup DB
Move copy and DB offsite
Migrate primary disk to primary tape
Expiration
Reclamation
Start all over again

We do backup stg before migration so 1) we can do the bulk of our copy pool 
creation disk to tape rather than tape to tape, 2) get data offsite as quickly 
as possible.

David Ehresman
University of Louisville

>>> Mark Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 7/18/2007 9:29 AM >>>
I believe the best practise is

Backup
Migration
Backup primary to copy
Backup db
Expiration
Reclamation
Start all over again

:)

Cheers 

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Timothy Hughes
Sent: Wednesday, 18 July 2007 9:14 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM Server DB Backups

We actually backup ours after nightly backups complete and before
migration. Is there a
specific recommended order or is it up to each individual site and it's
environment?

Helder Garcia wrote:

> You should backup db after migration and before expiration.
>
> On 7/17/07, Gregory Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> How many times a day should I be backing up the TSM DB and should it
be
>> after migration?
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Greg
>>
>>
>> ***
>> Gregory Lynch
>> Lead Programmer Analyst
>> IT Infrastructure/Systems Administration
>> Stony Brook University Medical Center
>> HSC Level 3, Room 121  ZIP 8037
>> Phone: 631-444-9783
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>>
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>
>
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Re: TSM Server DB Backups

2007-07-18 Thread Mark Scott
I believe the best practise is

Backup
Migration
Backup primary to copy
Backup db
Expiration
Reclamation
Start all over again

:)

Cheers 

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Timothy Hughes
Sent: Wednesday, 18 July 2007 9:14 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM Server DB Backups

We actually backup ours after nightly backups complete and before
migration. Is there a
specific recommended order or is it up to each individual site and it's
environment?

Helder Garcia wrote:

> You should backup db after migration and before expiration.
>
> On 7/17/07, Gregory Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> How many times a day should I be backing up the TSM DB and should it
be
>> after migration?
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Greg
>>
>>
>> ***
>> Gregory Lynch
>> Lead Programmer Analyst
>> IT Infrastructure/Systems Administration
>> Stony Brook University Medical Center
>> HSC Level 3, Room 121  ZIP 8037
>> Phone: 631-444-9783
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> This e- mail message, including any attachments,
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>> contain confidential and privileged information.
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>
>
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Re: TSM Server DB Backups

2007-07-18 Thread Bos, Karel
Hi,

You plan your ITSM db backups depending on how much data you want to
loose or time want to spent rerunning ran jobs (...). And things like
re-use delays on storage pools should be also taken into account.

After having to deal with a database restore to a point before the last
reclamation run of our primary storage pools without having reuse delay
set >0, we are a bit more carefull.

Regards,

Karel

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Timothy Hughes
Sent: woensdag 18 juli 2007 15:14
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: TSM Server DB Backups

We actually backup ours after nightly backups complete and before
migration. Is there a specific recommended order or is it up to each
individual site and it's environment?

Helder Garcia wrote:

> You should backup db after migration and before expiration.
>
> On 7/17/07, Gregory Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> How many times a day should I be backing up the TSM DB and should it 
>> be after migration?
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Greg
>>
>>
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>> Gregory Lynch
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>> Phone: 631-444-9783
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Re: TSM Server DB Backups

2007-07-18 Thread Timothy Hughes

We actually backup ours after nightly backups complete and before
migration. Is there a
specific recommended order or is it up to each individual site and it's
environment?

Helder Garcia wrote:


You should backup db after migration and before expiration.

On 7/17/07, Gregory Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Hello all,

How many times a day should I be backing up the TSM DB and should it be
after migration?


Thanks

Greg


***
Gregory Lynch
Lead Programmer Analyst
IT Infrastructure/Systems Administration
Stony Brook University Medical Center
HSC Level 3, Room 121  ZIP 8037
Phone: 631-444-9783
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: Checkout full, unchanging tape volumes

2007-07-18 Thread Angus Macdonald
So can I take it my suggestion won't work?

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Richard Sims
Sent: 18 July 2007 12:58
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Checkout full, unchanging tape volumes


On Jul 18, 2007, at 7:50 AM, Angus Macdonald wrote:

> I support a TSM 5.3 installation with a 3582 library, which is
> running out of local capacity. One of the tape pools is used
> exclusively for a large body of files which receive regular
> additions but are never changed or deleted. The tapes in the pool
> are all full, apart from the one that is being currently written-
> to. Is it safe to checkout some or all of the full tapes and store
> them offsite, since their content will never change or expire?

Angus -

Your site needs to be more realistic about capacity needs, to avoid
putting technicians (you) into a position of having to deal with
capacity exhaustion.  Try to make them fully aware of the situation.

See topic "Managing a Full Library" in the Admin Guide for coping
with it.

Richard Simshttp://people.bu.edu/rbs


Re: TSM Server DB Backups

2007-07-18 Thread Helder Garcia

You should backup db after migration and before expiration.

On 7/17/07, Gregory Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hello all,

How many times a day should I be backing up the TSM DB and should it be
after migration?


Thanks

Greg


***
Gregory Lynch
Lead Programmer Analyst
IT Infrastructure/Systems Administration
Stony Brook University Medical Center
HSC Level 3, Room 121  ZIP 8037
Phone: 631-444-9783
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: Checkout full, unchanging tape volumes

2007-07-18 Thread Richard Sims

On Jul 18, 2007, at 7:50 AM, Angus Macdonald wrote:


I support a TSM 5.3 installation with a 3582 library, which is
running out of local capacity. One of the tape pools is used
exclusively for a large body of files which receive regular
additions but are never changed or deleted. The tapes in the pool
are all full, apart from the one that is being currently written-
to. Is it safe to checkout some or all of the full tapes and store
them offsite, since their content will never change or expire?


Angus -

Your site needs to be more realistic about capacity needs, to avoid
putting technicians (you) into a position of having to deal with
capacity exhaustion.  Try to make them fully aware of the situation.

See topic "Managing a Full Library" in the Admin Guide for coping
with it.

   Richard Simshttp://people.bu.edu/rbs


Checkout full, unchanging tape volumes

2007-07-18 Thread Angus Macdonald
I support a TSM 5.3 installation with a 3582 library, which is running out of 
local capacity. One of the tape pools is used exclusively for a large body of 
files which receive regular additions but are never changed or deleted. The 
tapes in the pool are all full, apart from the one that is being currently 
written-to. Is it safe to checkout some or all of the full tapes and store them 
offsite, since their content will never change or expire?

Thanks
Angus