Re: Anyone know of issues running older clients against 5.4.3 server?

2008-04-10 Thread Paul Zarnowski

Thanks for everyone's feedback on this.  John, thanks especially for the
notes on older AIX clients.  We do have a couple of those left.  Remco, we
do plan to send out a notice to these users, but I also wanted to find out
if they were likely to stop working or not.  We have over a thousand
clients running 5.1.5, so there's no way we can get all of them to upgrade
in a short timeframe (we don't manage desktop machines centrally here).

No one mentioned Mac clients.  That's the one platform where we've had a
problem in the past when we upgraded our server software.

I also noticed the following item in IBM's "end-of-life" announcement for 5.3:

Select support for three operating systems will be added to TSM 5.4 in
April 2008. Special 5.3.6 backup-archive clients and 5.3.6.3 storage
agents will be supported on only these operating systems, for use with TSM
5.4 and 5.5 servers.


However (as was noted some time ago on this list), these 5.3.6 clients are
not yet available.  It would be nice to know if there are code changes for
5.3.6, or if this is just a repackaging of some sort.  It's a bit annoying
that these will only be made available "in the nick of time" before 5.3
server support ends.

..Paul


At 03:06 PM 4/10/2008, Schneider, John wrote:

Paul,
We just upgraded our AIX 5.3.5.1 server at one location to
5.4.2, and when we did, we found some unreliability problems show up on
some AIX clients running TSM 5.2.0.0 and TSM 5.1.5.
These were neglected clients anyway, and should have been
upgraded long ago.  So we upgraded one of them to TSM 5.4.2 yesterday,
and the problem seems to have gone away.  We will be doing this to the
rest of them soon.

Best Regards,

John D. Schneider
Lead Systems Administrator - Storage
Sisters of Mercy Health Systems
3637 South Geyer Road
St. Louis, MO  63127
Phone: 314-364-3150
Cell: 314-486-2359
Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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5.4.3 server?


We are about to upgrade our servers from 5.3.4 to 5.4.3.  I'd like to
know if anyone knows of any problems running older clients with a 5.4.x
server.  While I know IBM only supports 1 version back, it's usually the
case that older clients continue to work (with some exceptions).  Thanks
for any feedback.  We still have a bunch of 5.1.5 clients out there that
we've been unsuccessful in prodding our users to upgrade from, so that's
the level I'm most concerned about.

..Paul


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How do I get TDPO to send controlfiles to SBT_TAPE instead of DISK?

2008-04-10 Thread Dan Foster
My DBAs and I are completely baffled. How do I get TDPO to send
controlfiles to SBT_TAPE instead of DISK?

My setup:

TSM server (Enterprise) 5.5 on AIX 5.2.
TDPO 5.4.1 on Solaris 10/SPARC and Oracle 10gR2.

RMAN settings:

RMAN> show all;

RMAN configuration parameters are:
CONFIGURE RETENTION POLICY TO RECOVERY WINDOW OF 7 DAYS;
CONFIGURE BACKUP OPTIMIZATION OFF;
CONFIGURE DEFAULT DEVICE TYPE TO 'SBT_TAPE';
CONFIGURE CONTROLFILE AUTOBACKUP ON;
CONFIGURE CONTROLFILE AUTOBACKUP FORMAT FOR DEVICE TYPE SBT_TAPE TO '%F'; # 
default
CONFIGURE CONTROLFILE AUTOBACKUP FORMAT FOR DEVICE TYPE DISK TO '%F'; # default
CONFIGURE DEVICE TYPE 'SBT_TAPE' PARALLELISM 3 BACKUP TYPE TO BACKUPSET;
CONFIGURE DEVICE TYPE DISK PARALLELISM 1 BACKUP TYPE TO BACKUPSET; # default
CONFIGURE DATAFILE BACKUP COPIES FOR DEVICE TYPE SBT_TAPE TO 1; # default
CONFIGURE DATAFILE BACKUP COPIES FOR DEVICE TYPE DISK TO 1; # default
CONFIGURE ARCHIVELOG BACKUP COPIES FOR DEVICE TYPE SBT_TAPE TO 1; # default
CONFIGURE ARCHIVELOG BACKUP COPIES FOR DEVICE TYPE DISK TO 1; # default
CONFIGURE CHANNEL DEVICE TYPE 'SBT_TAPE' PARMS  '';
CONFIGURE MAXSETSIZE TO UNLIMITED; # default
CONFIGURE ENCRYPTION FOR DATABASE OFF; # default
CONFIGURE ENCRYPTION ALGORITHM 'AES128'; # default
CONFIGURE ARCHIVELOG DELETION POLICY TO NONE; # default
CONFIGURE SNAPSHOT CONTROLFILE NAME TO 
'/opt/oracle10/product/10.2.0/db_1/dbs/snapcf_mydb.f'; # default

How we backup -- RMAN commands:

allocate channel t1 type 'SBT_TAPE' parms 
'ENV=(TDPO_OPTFILE=/opt/tivoli/tsm/client/oracle/bin64/tdpo.opt)';

allocate channel t2 type 'SBT_TAPE' parms 
'ENV=(TDPO_OPTFILE=/opt/tivoli/tsm/client/oracle/bin64/tdpo.opt)';

allocate channel t3 type 'SBT_TAPE' parms 
'ENV=(TDPO_OPTFILE=/opt/tivoli/tsm/client/oracle/bin64/tdpo.opt)';

sql 'alter system archive log current';

backup incremental level = ${LEVEL}
filesperset 5
format "df_%d_%s_%p_%t.lv${LEVEL}"
(database include current controlfile);

backup
filesperset 20
format "ar_%d_%s_%p_%t.lv${LEVEL}"
(archivelog all delete all input);

release channel t1;
release channel t2;
release channel t3;


tdpo.conf for the restore on a test box:

DSMI_ORC_CONFIG /opt/tivoli/tsm/client/oracle/bin64/dsm.opt
DSMI_LOG/var/log/tsm

TDPO_FS prod-oracle

TDPO_MGMT_CLASS_2   tsmoracle-mgmt2
TDPO_MGMT_CLASS_3   tsmoracle-mgmt3
TDPO_MGMT_CLASS_4   tsmoracle-mgmt4

Not a fancy setup; pretty much 'stock' (standard). Thoughts/ideas?

-Dan


Re: Anyone know of issues running older clients against 5.4.3 server?

2008-04-10 Thread Schneider, John
Paul,
We just upgraded our AIX 5.3.5.1 server at one location to
5.4.2, and when we did, we found some unreliability problems show up on
some AIX clients running TSM 5.2.0.0 and TSM 5.1.5.
These were neglected clients anyway, and should have been
upgraded long ago.  So we upgraded one of them to TSM 5.4.2 yesterday,
and the problem seems to have gone away.  We will be doing this to the
rest of them soon.

Best Regards,

John D. Schneider
Lead Systems Administrator - Storage
Sisters of Mercy Health Systems
3637 South Geyer Road
St. Louis, MO  63127
Phone: 314-364-3150
Cell: 314-486-2359
Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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5.4.3 server?


We are about to upgrade our servers from 5.3.4 to 5.4.3.  I'd like to
know if anyone knows of any problems running older clients with a 5.4.x
server.  While I know IBM only supports 1 version back, it's usually the
case that older clients continue to work (with some exceptions).  Thanks
for any feedback.  We still have a bunch of 5.1.5 clients out there that
we've been unsuccessful in prodding our users to upgrade from, so that's
the level I'm most concerned about.

..Paul


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Re: Anyone know of issues running older clients against 5.4.3 server?

2008-04-10 Thread Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU
Maybe in a perfect world

But when you have vendor maintained applications/servers that run things
like Windows 2000 or the Linux 2.4 kernel or Solaris 8 or SGI, you don't
have a choice but to use the old clients!




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Paul Zarnowski wrote:
> We are about to upgrade our servers from 5.3.4 to 5.4.3.  I'd like to
know
> if anyone knows of any problems running older clients with a 5.4.x
> server.  While I know IBM only supports 1 version back, it's usually the
> case that older clients continue to work (with some exceptions).  Thanks
> for any feedback.  We still have a bunch of 5.1.5 clients out there that
> we've been unsuccessful in prodding our users to upgrade from, so that's
> the level I'm most concerned about.
>

Hi Paul,

if you know who the users are, I'd say you can give m sort of final
notice... 'your client will be unsupported as of our next upgrade due
$data, if you haven't upgraded to at least version 5.4, we will be
unable to help you with any problems or guarantee service'. It's sort of
BOFH-style CYA, but nobody would be able to claim that you haven't given
them proper notice.

> ..Paul
>
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Re: Anyone know of issues running older clients against 5.4.3 server?

2008-04-10 Thread Clark, Margaret
We are using 5.4.1 server and have twenty-five clients at the 5.1.5 level or 
worse that are doing just fine.
- Margaret Clark, San Diego Data Processing Corporation

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We are about to upgrade our servers from 5.3.4 to 5.4.3.  I'd like to know if 
anyone knows of any problems running older clients with a 5.4.x server.  While 
I know IBM only supports 1 version back, it's usually the case that older 
clients continue to work (with some exceptions).  Thanks for any feedback.  We 
still have a bunch of 5.1.5 clients out there that we've been unsuccessful in 
prodding our users to upgrade from, so that's the level I'm most concerned 
about.

..Paul


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Re: Anyone know of issues running older clients against 5.4.3 server?

2008-04-10 Thread Wanda Prather
And I've got customers running 5.1 Windows clients against 5.4.x servers.
No issues.

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Re: Anyone know of issues running older clients against 5.4.3 server?

2008-04-10 Thread Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU
If you check the archives for ADSM-L, you would see that I and others have
already answered this question.

I am running clients ranging from 3.1.0.6 (OpenVMS) up to the lates
(5.5.0.6) t, to my 5.5 servers!   I made sure to experiment with the 3.1
client before I implemented the 5.5 server.



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We are about to upgrade our servers from 5.3.4 to 5.4.3.  I'd like to know
if anyone knows of any problems running older clients with a 5.4.x
server.  While I know IBM only supports 1 version back, it's usually the
case that older clients continue to work (with some exceptions).  Thanks
for any feedback.  We still have a bunch of 5.1.5 clients out there that
we've been unsuccessful in prodding our users to upgrade from, so that's
the level I'm most concerned about.

..Paul


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Re: Anyone know of issues running older clients against 5.4.3 server?

2008-04-10 Thread Richard Rhodes
We run TSM server 5.4.1 and have some old 5.1.6 clients running just fine.
These are old AIX 4.3.3 servers still hanging around.

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We are about to upgrade our servers from 5.3.4 to 5.4.3.  I'd like to know
if anyone knows of any problems running older clients with a 5.4.x
server.  While I know IBM only supports 1 version back, it's usually the
case that older clients continue to work (with some exceptions).  Thanks
for any feedback.  We still have a bunch of 5.1.5 clients out there that
we've been unsuccessful in prodding our users to upgrade from, so that's
the level I'm most concerned about.

..Paul


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Re: Anyone know of issues running older clients against 5.4.3 server?

2008-04-10 Thread Remco Post

Paul Zarnowski wrote:

We are about to upgrade our servers from 5.3.4 to 5.4.3.  I'd like to know
if anyone knows of any problems running older clients with a 5.4.x
server.  While I know IBM only supports 1 version back, it's usually the
case that older clients continue to work (with some exceptions).  Thanks
for any feedback.  We still have a bunch of 5.1.5 clients out there that
we've been unsuccessful in prodding our users to upgrade from, so that's
the level I'm most concerned about.



Hi Paul,

if you know who the users are, I'd say you can give m sort of final
notice... 'your client will be unsupported as of our next upgrade due
$data, if you haven't upgraded to at least version 5.4, we will be
unable to help you with any problems or guarantee service'. It's sort of
BOFH-style CYA, but nobody would be able to claim that you haven't given
them proper notice.


..Paul


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Anyone know of issues running older clients against 5.4.3 server?

2008-04-10 Thread Paul Zarnowski

We are about to upgrade our servers from 5.3.4 to 5.4.3.  I'd like to know
if anyone knows of any problems running older clients with a 5.4.x
server.  While I know IBM only supports 1 version back, it's usually the
case that older clients continue to work (with some exceptions).  Thanks
for any feedback.  We still have a bunch of 5.1.5 clients out there that
we've been unsuccessful in prodding our users to upgrade from, so that's
the level I'm most concerned about.

..Paul


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Re: 5.5 server in larger environments?

2008-04-10 Thread Roger Deschner
Running 5.5.0.0 AIX Server since about New Years. Had one sequence of
two crashes in a row, but other than that very stable over 3 months of
very heavy production use. We have a 283GB database, backing up about
2TB/night.

New features in 5.5 proved their value in our January disaster recovery
situation. So I see mostly upside, and no downside, to 5.5. Version
5.5.0.0 AIX Server is very clean and stable. (I only wish the 5.5
clients were as good ...but that's another story.)

Only problem was that when migrating from 5.3 to 5.5, the automatic
install procedure failed to do the required UPGRADEDB. But this was
obvious to detect, and it was easy to run the UPGRADEDB manually, so I
consider it to be no big deal. Just beware it could happen to you and be
ready to do it manually if necessary.

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>usually, after  new TSM server is released you hear many complaints from
>early adopters about lots of problems. With 5.5 I've heard very little,
>so I was wondering, how many people are actually using the 5.5 server in
>a production environment, and how big are these? Is anyone with a db
>over 100 GB in size running 5.5 server? Or over 200 GB? How much data do
>you backup on an average day? During the last dutch TSM UG meeting,
>there was only one site using 5.5 server out of about 30 attendees.
>
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Re: ACN5798SE error Restoring Exchange

2008-04-10 Thread Howard Coles
Well, we changed nothing about how we were doing the restores, except
for that option, and all of our backups are legacy.  We do a full on
weekends via a cmd file, and incrs. Each day.

Now, if the TDP is doing a vss backup when we do the full on Sunday,
it's doing so of its own accord.

Here's the Sunday command that kicks off the full backup:
start /B tdpexcc backup * full /tsmoptfile=dsm.exch.opt
/logfile=excsch.log /excserver=svrname >> excfull.log
Here's the daily command that kicks off the incremental backup:
start /B tdpexcc backup * incr /tsmoptfile=dsm.exch.opt
/logfile=excsch.log /excserver=svrname >> excincr.log

See Ya'
Howard


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> 
> Howard,
> 
> If you are performing legacy restores the "Disable VSS Instant
Restore"
> will have no effect on what you are doing.
> And so... I think it must have been your run recovery settings
> or the way in which you were performing the restores.
> 
> As far as applying legacy incremental restore on top of VSS full
> restores,
> that is not supported by Microsoft for Exchange.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Del
> 
> 
> 
> "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"  wrote on 04/10/2008
> 10:55:47 AM:
> 
> > Right after I sent this message I asked the Exchange guy to disable
> "vss
> > instant restore" and see if that worked, and viola, its working.
> >
> > Not sure what the vss instant does, but it obviously doesn't like
> > incrementals from a legacy backup, :-D.
> >
> > No, I don't think I'm running 5.3.3.0.1 I have never downloaded it.
> >
> > The backup was legacy, which I believe had something to do with it,
> > actually.
> >
> > See Ya'
> > Howard


Re: 5.5 server in larger environments?

2008-04-10 Thread Skylar Thompson

Skylar Thompson wrote:

Out of curiosity, what hardware and OS are you running? We've had a
couple segfaults in 5.5 when there were a bunch of transactions running
during a database backup, but none since I upped the LOGPOOLSIZE to 2048.


And out of fairness, I should say that we run on 64-bit Red Hat
Enterprise 4.

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Re: ACN5798SE error Restoring Exchange

2008-04-10 Thread Del Hoobler
Howard,

If you are performing legacy restores the "Disable VSS Instant Restore"
will have no effect on what you are doing.
And so... I think it must have been your run recovery settings
or the way in which you were performing the restores.

As far as applying legacy incremental restore on top of VSS full restores,
that is not supported by Microsoft for Exchange.

Thanks,

Del



"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"  wrote on 04/10/2008
10:55:47 AM:

> Right after I sent this message I asked the Exchange guy to disable "vss
> instant restore" and see if that worked, and viola, its working.
>
> Not sure what the vss instant does, but it obviously doesn't like
> incrementals from a legacy backup, :-D.
>
> No, I don't think I'm running 5.3.3.0.1 I have never downloaded it.
>
> The backup was legacy, which I believe had something to do with it,
> actually.
>
> See Ya'
> Howard


Re: Improving TSM performance - memory related setting

2008-04-10 Thread Robert R Price
We have experienced this phenomenon as well at 5.3.5.2 on a Solaris TSM
Server.

The system has 32GB memory, 6 CPU.
We used 20GB for bufferpool and verified that there was no paging going on.
Performance was terrible!  As a measure, expiration took about a week.  All
other processes, sessions, queries were similarly bad.

Reduced buffpool to about 1/2 GB and performance is now great.  Expiration
now runs in about 3 hours.  Other measures improved dramatically as well.

Current DB stats:
   Available Space (MB): 204,800
 Assigned Capacity (MB): 202,860
 Maximum Extension (MB): 1,940
 Maximum Reduction (MB): 75,212
  Page Size (bytes): 4,096
 Total Usable Pages: 51,932,160
 Used Pages: 32,695,965
   Pct Util: 63.0
  Max. Pct Util: 63.0
   Physical Volumes: 16
  Buffer Pool Pages: 131,072
  Total Buffer Requests: 306,981,255
 Cache Hit Pct.: 99.72
Cache Wait Pct.: 0.00

Robert R. Price
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Computer Sciences Corporation
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Just a warning, don't necessarily go to 1/2 or 1/8th of your total
physical memory..

If your server has 64 GB of memory, 8 GB (1/8th) for BUFPOOLSIZE is
probably too high.  I would keep it below 1 GB unless you prove to
yourself with some testing that it is helping speed up the backups or
restores.  Just don't look at database cache hit rate.

I think there's some inefficiency in how TSM database cache works, as it
may have to search through that cached memory to find a hit.  When you are
caching 8 GB, that takes some time to search through all that.

You'll see this as the dsmserv processes CPU use will increase the larger
the BUFPOOLSIZE is.  If it takes longer to search through that memory than
it does to read the page from disk, you are hurting performance not
helping it by caching in memory.

Maybe DB2 TSM in version 6 will help this issue.
I tried to put a problem in for it a few years back, but couldn't get
beyond level 2 since no one understood what I was talking about, they kept
thinking the server was slow due to the operating system using it's own
page file to make up for the large memory setting, even though the 64 bit
server had 32 GB of physical memory...  Ahh well.  I can use that other 30
GB for something else.

or is it fixed now?
Matt G.


"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"  wrote on 04/04/2008
03:40:56 AM:

> Bufpoolsize should be set between 1/2 and 1/8 of the among of the
> total physical memory, if I remember well, that is, what best
> practices recommend.
> Also if you modify this parameter you will have to take a look at
> the percentage hit cache (q db f=d) that can be increase (modifying
> the bufpolsize), or perhaps decrease if the setting is incorrect.
> Percentage hit cache must be above 99 %.
>
> I will also recommend to take a look at the performance tuning
> guide, that will let you know more about many settings that can
> increase the performance of your TSM server.
>
> Regards,
> Bernaldo.
>
>
>
> - Mensaje original 
> De: Paul Dudley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Para: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Enviado: viernes, 4 de abril, 2008 5:44:02
> Asunto: Re: [ADSM-L] Improving TSM performance - memory related setting

Re: 5.5 server in larger environments?

2008-04-10 Thread Skylar Thompson

Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU wrote:

We are running 4-servers. [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]

The 5.5 servers have given us grief. We have at least 4-known (apars)
problems we are waiting on patches for. 1-requires occasional restarts of
the server (this is the IBM workaround).  The other one has crashed
frequently.  In fact, we currently have an open problem on this server.
IBM had to  create us a "diagnostic kernel" version of dsmserv to try to
reproduce the problem and get additional information.

The biggest has a 160GB DB, which is showing us the most problems. Expires
are running 48-hours+.  We only backup 1-2TB daily on this server but have
an occupancy of 177TB with 289M files which I think is where our drag on
the expires, is.

I will not upgrade the non-5.5 servers until IBM gets these problems
resolved.  5.4.2 is the highest I recommend!


Out of curiosity, what hardware and OS are you running? We've had a
couple segfaults in 5.5 when there were a bunch of transactions running
during a database backup, but none since I upped the LOGPOOLSIZE to 2048.

Even with the segfaults, I don't think we'd be able to go back from 5.5
because 5.5 solved a long-standing bug with SET EVENTs on archives.
Whenever we tried to activate retention on an archive with more than a
few hundred thousand files (read: all of our archives) we'd get an
aborted transaction on the client.

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Re: ACN5798SE error Restoring Exchange

2008-04-10 Thread Howard Coles
Right after I sent this message I asked the Exchange guy to disable "vss
instant restore" and see if that worked, and viola, its working.

Not sure what the vss instant does, but it obviously doesn't like
incrementals from a legacy backup, :-D.

No, I don't think I'm running 5.3.3.0.1 I have never downloaded it.

The backup was legacy, which I believe had something to do with it,
actually.  

See Ya'
Howard


> -Original Message-
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Del Hoobler
> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 9:44 AM
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] ACN5798SE error Restoring Exchange
> 
> Could this be APAR IC50413? Do you have DP/Exchange 5.3.3.01
installed?
> If not, please install and use it.
> 
> ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/storage/tivoli-storage-
> management/patches/tivoli-data-protection/ntexch/v533/
> 
> If you do have DP/Exchange 5.3.3.0.1 installed...
> Are you using the GUI or CLI?
> Are you restoring the FULL and INCREMENTAL in a single operation?
> If you are using separate operations, are you specifying
> the option to NOT run recovery on the FULL and then
> specifying the option to run recovery on the INCREMENTAL?
> Is this Exchange 2003 or Exchange 2007?
> Is this Legacy or VSS?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Del
> 
> 
> 
> "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"  wrote on 04/10/2008
> 10:13:42 AM:
> 
> > I need some assistance.
> >
> >
> >
> > We're trying to restore some mail for a user, and we're getting a
> > strange set of errors.
> >
> >
> >
> > When we do a restore from the full from 03/30/2008 the restore goes
> > fine.
> >
> > When we restore from 1 incremental we get something like the
> following:
> >
> >
> >
> > SG1INCR 03/31/2008 19:00:27 Restore failed, ACN5798E MS
> Exchange
> > API HRESERESTOREREOPEN() failed with HRESULT: 0xc7ff0bc3 -Restore
> > environment information corrupted.
> >
> > SG1FULL 03/30/2008 18:00:10 Restore failed, ACN5798E MS
> Exchange
> > API HRESERESTOREADDDATABASE() failed with HRESULT: 0xc7fe1142 -
> Database
> > not found.
> >
> >
> >
> > TSM Server version 5.2.9 (hopefully getting upgraded in the very
near
> > future).
> >
> > TSM Client version: 5.3.4
> >
> > TSM Exchange TDP version: 5.3.3.0
> >
> >
> >
> > I have verified with the Exchange Admin that the Exchange DB is set
> to
> > accept restores, and the Database to the Recovery Storage Group was
> > added before the restore.  I have also verified that its set to be
> > overwritten by a restore.
> >
> >
> >
> > I found no errors in any of the backups from the 30th on for this
> node,
> > so it appears the backups worked.


SystemExcludeCache files question

2008-04-10 Thread noiretm
I have exactly the same problem with TSM client 5.5.0.0.
I found a workaround*  to clean up the files of the  C:\ADSM.SYS\VSS_STAGING  
directory, but nothing for the  C:\ADSM.SYS\SystemExcludeCache__*.TsmCacheDB   
files... so I don't know whether it is safe to delete them using a 
post-schedule command.


( * 
http://www.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=663&context=SSGSG7&dc=DB550&uid=swg1IC55612&loc=en_US&cs=UTF-8&lang=en&rss=ct663tivoli
 )

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Re: ACN5798SE error Restoring Exchange

2008-04-10 Thread Del Hoobler
Could this be APAR IC50413? Do you have DP/Exchange 5.3.3.01 installed?
If not, please install and use it.

ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/storage/tivoli-storage-management/patches/tivoli-data-protection/ntexch/v533/

If you do have DP/Exchange 5.3.3.0.1 installed...
Are you using the GUI or CLI?
Are you restoring the FULL and INCREMENTAL in a single operation?
If you are using separate operations, are you specifying
the option to NOT run recovery on the FULL and then
specifying the option to run recovery on the INCREMENTAL?
Is this Exchange 2003 or Exchange 2007?
Is this Legacy or VSS?

Thanks,

Del



"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"  wrote on 04/10/2008
10:13:42 AM:

> I need some assistance.
>
>
>
> We're trying to restore some mail for a user, and we're getting a
> strange set of errors.
>
>
>
> When we do a restore from the full from 03/30/2008 the restore goes
> fine.
>
> When we restore from 1 incremental we get something like the following:
>
>
>
> SG1INCR 03/31/2008 19:00:27 Restore failed, ACN5798E MS Exchange
> API HRESERESTOREREOPEN() failed with HRESULT: 0xc7ff0bc3 -Restore
> environment information corrupted.
>
> SG1FULL 03/30/2008 18:00:10 Restore failed, ACN5798E MS Exchange
> API HRESERESTOREADDDATABASE() failed with HRESULT: 0xc7fe1142 -Database
> not found.
>
>
>
> TSM Server version 5.2.9 (hopefully getting upgraded in the very near
> future).
>
> TSM Client version: 5.3.4
>
> TSM Exchange TDP version: 5.3.3.0
>
>
>
> I have verified with the Exchange Admin that the Exchange DB is set to
> accept restores, and the Database to the Recovery Storage Group was
> added before the restore.  I have also verified that its set to be
> overwritten by a restore.
>
>
>
> I found no errors in any of the backups from the 30th on for this node,
> so it appears the backups worked.


ACN5798SE error Restoring Exchange

2008-04-10 Thread Howard Coles
I need some assistance.

 

We're trying to restore some mail for a user, and we're getting a
strange set of errors.

 

When we do a restore from the full from 03/30/2008 the restore goes
fine.

When we restore from 1 incremental we get something like the following:

 

SG1INCR 03/31/2008 19:00:27 Restore failed, ACN5798E MS Exchange
API HRESERESTOREREOPEN() failed with HRESULT: 0xc7ff0bc3 -Restore
environment information corrupted.

SG1FULL 03/30/2008 18:00:10 Restore failed, ACN5798E MS Exchange
API HRESERESTOREADDDATABASE() failed with HRESULT: 0xc7fe1142 -Database
not found.

 

TSM Server version 5.2.9 (hopefully getting upgraded in the very near
future).

TSM Client version: 5.3.4

TSM Exchange TDP version: 5.3.3.0

 

I have verified with the Exchange Admin that the Exchange DB is set to
accept restores, and the Database to the Recovery Storage Group was
added before the restore.  I have also verified that its set to be
overwritten by a restore.  

 

I found no errors in any of the backups from the 30th on for this node,
so it appears the backups worked.

 

See Ya'

Howard Coles Jr.

Sr. Systems Engineer 

Ardent Health Services

John 3:16!

 


Re: 5.5 server in larger environments?

2008-04-10 Thread Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU
We are running 4-servers. [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]

The 5.5 servers have given us grief. We have at least 4-known (apars)
problems we are waiting on patches for. 1-requires occasional restarts of
the server (this is the IBM workaround).  The other one has crashed
frequently.  In fact, we currently have an open problem on this server.
IBM had to  create us a "diagnostic kernel" version of dsmserv to try to
reproduce the problem and get additional information.

The biggest has a 160GB DB, which is showing us the most problems. Expires
are running 48-hours+.  We only backup 1-2TB daily on this server but have
an occupancy of 177TB with 289M files which I think is where our drag on
the expires, is.

I will not upgrade the non-5.5 servers until IBM gets these problems
resolved.  5.4.2 is the highest I recommend!




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Hi All,

usually, after  new TSM server is released you hear many complaints from
early adopters about lots of problems. With 5.5 I've heard very little,
so I was wondering, how many people are actually using the 5.5 server in
a production environment, and how big are these? Is anyone with a db
over 100 GB in size running 5.5 server? Or over 200 GB? How much data do
you backup on an average day? During the last dutch TSM UG meeting,
there was only one site using 5.5 server out of about 30 attendees.

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