Re: DB Mirroring - Poll and question

2008-08-21 Thread Adrian Compton
Hi,
I remember reading somewhere that a TSM DB should ideally not be allowed
to grow passed 120GB before having another instance of TSM.
You will find that you will have a major problem should you have to run
an AUDITDB for example if you ever have errors in your DB. Instead of
hours or a day, you would face an AUDIT of weeks, which happened to a
TSM user in South Africa a while back.

I would look into splitting the Server up.

Regards

 
 
Adrian Compton
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(using small voice)  I guess it's not lots.  124,858,663 files, 131 TB
occupancy, 90 GB database, ~100 clients.

Jim

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WOW, the 342 Million files is what is killing you but it still seems
like
an excessive amount of time. You mentioned Saturday as when it starts.
You
are running expiration daily aren't you? You should be able to run
expiration and reclamation to completion each day or you need to look at
another instance or configuration to meet your resource needs. If you
don't
complete expiration and reclamation daily, you will be queueing up
unfinished work each day that will turn into a 24-48 hour expiration
run(sounds like you are there). Expiration and reclamation go
hand-in-hand.
If your expiration doesn't complete then you reclamation can't either.
As a
result, you may have a good number of un-reclaimed and un-expired
entries
in your database. BTW, I have always been told, by my TSM mentors, that
due
to the database intensive nature of expiration, that it should always
run
by itself.


Define LOTS?

My specs are:

194GB DB
206TB Occupancy
342,194,690 files





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We need 4-6 hours for 90GB DB, ~100 clients.  The servers have LOTS of
files.

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48 hours sounds like an awfully looong time to me.
On my busiest Linux server (90gb DB, ~100 clients) expiration completes
in 20-30 minutes.

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On my big, 194GB production Linux server, an EXPIRE INVENTORY runs 40-48
hours.  Granted, the server is very busy performing other tasks such as
client backups, stgbackups and such.  The DB buffers and such are
configured identically to the production server.

On my first test expire run on my new test server (to which I reloaded
the
194GB production DB), the expire ran in 10-hours - 1/4 of the usual
time.


Re: Problem with 5.4 Solaris Client

2008-08-21 Thread Davis, Adrian
 
Richard,

I get...

libCrun.so.1;
SUNW_1.1;
SUNW_1.2;
SUNW_1.3;
SUNW_1.4;
SUNW_1.5;

...from the pvs.

I just know the solution is going to be something very simple!!!

Best Regards,
   =Adrian=



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On Aug 20, 2008, at 11:30 AM, Davis, Adrian wrote:

 I'm trying the 5.4 client under Solaris (5.10 Generic_127111-10) and 
 I'm getting the following error...

 ld.so.1: dsmc: fatal: libCrun.so.1: version `SUNW_1.5' not found 
 (required by file /opt/tivoli/tsm/client/ba/bin/dsmc)
 ld.so.1: dsmc: fatal: libCrun.so.1: open failed: No such file or 
 directory

 ...I've got libCrun.so.1 in /usr/lib.

 The 5.3 client worked OK.

 Any ideas?

Do pvs -d /usr/lib/libCrun.so.1
in Solaris and see if the 1.5 version is reflected.
If not, pursue an up-to-date library.  Possibly, that system is not
current on patches.

Richard Sims

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Re: DB Mirroring - Poll and question

2008-08-21 Thread Henrik Vahlstedt
Why not use some old IBM scripts when comparing performance??? 

The scrips was orginally published under How to determine when disk
tuning is needed for your ITSM server
at http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21141810. See
discussion at
http://www.mail-archive.com/adsm-l@vm.marist.edu/msg51968.html



On my first test expire run on my new test server (to which I reloaded
the 194GB production DB), the expire ran in 10-hours - 1/4 of the usual
time.
Reload = Unload + load DB, or only a restore DB?

//Henrik
 

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Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] DB Mirroring - Poll and question

(using small voice)  I guess it's not lots.  124,858,663 files, 131 TB
occupancy, 90 GB database, ~100 clients.

Jim

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Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] DB Mirroring - Poll and question

WOW, the 342 Million files is what is killing you but it still seems
like an excessive amount of time. You mentioned Saturday as when it
starts.
You
are running expiration daily aren't you? You should be able to run
expiration and reclamation to completion each day or you need to look at
another instance or configuration to meet your resource needs. If you
don't complete expiration and reclamation daily, you will be queueing up
unfinished work each day that will turn into a 24-48 hour expiration
run(sounds like you are there). Expiration and reclamation go
hand-in-hand.
If your expiration doesn't complete then you reclamation can't either.
As a
result, you may have a good number of un-reclaimed and un-expired
entries in your database. BTW, I have always been told, by my TSM
mentors, that due to the database intensive nature of expiration, that
it should always run by itself.


Define LOTS?

My specs are:

194GB DB
206TB Occupancy
342,194,690 files





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We need 4-6 hours for 90GB DB, ~100 clients.  The servers have LOTS of
files.

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48 hours sounds like an awfully looong time to me.
On my busiest Linux server (90gb DB, ~100 clients) expiration completes
in 20-30 minutes.

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On my big, 194GB production Linux server, an EXPIRE INVENTORY runs 40-48
hours.  Granted, the server is very busy performing other tasks such as
client backups, stgbackups and such.  The DB buffers and such are
configured identically to the production server.

On my first test expire run on my new test server (to which I reloaded
the 194GB production DB), the expire ran in 10-hours - 1/4 of the usual
time.


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Re: Problem with 5.4 Solaris Client

2008-08-21 Thread Richard Sims

Adrian -

Okay, good to have that verified.
The only other thing I could think of is misdirection, where the
environment under which the client execution is attempted has a
LD_LIBRARY_PATH environment variable or the like in effect which is
causing the loader to look in the wrong directories.  If nothing
apparent, you could try setting that var to /usr/lib.  Beyond that,
you might try invoking the client under the 'truss' or similar trace
command for indications of where it is going astray.  If all else
fails, a TSM Support call may be needed, given that you had no such
difficulty running the 5.3 client.

   Richard

On Aug 21, 2008, at 3:46 AM, Davis, Adrian wrote:



Richard,

I get...

   libCrun.so.1;
   SUNW_1.1;
   SUNW_1.2;
   SUNW_1.3;
   SUNW_1.4;
   SUNW_1.5;

...from the pvs.

I just know the solution is going to be something very simple!!!

Best Regards,
  =Adrian=


Re: Problem with 5.4 Solaris Client

2008-08-21 Thread Davis, Adrian
Richard,

Thanks for the help - I had eventually worked it out - I knew it would
be simple. I think I must have been suffering from a Senior Moment. An
application has been installed on the machine that has its own (older
version) of the library - and has put its library directory at the
beginning of LD_LIBRARY_PATH.

Thanks Again,
   =Adrian=

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Adrian -

Okay, good to have that verified.
The only other thing I could think of is misdirection, where the
environment under which the client execution is attempted has a
LD_LIBRARY_PATH environment variable or the like in effect which is
causing the loader to look in the wrong directories.  If nothing
apparent, you could try setting that var to /usr/lib.  Beyond that,
you might try invoking the client under the 'truss' or similar trace
command for indications of where it is going astray.  If all else fails,
a TSM Support call may be needed, given that you had no such difficulty
running the 5.3 client.

Richard

On Aug 21, 2008, at 3:46 AM, Davis, Adrian wrote:


 Richard,

 I get...

libCrun.so.1;
SUNW_1.1;
SUNW_1.2;
SUNW_1.3;
SUNW_1.4;
SUNW_1.5;

 ...from the pvs.

 I just know the solution is going to be something very simple!!!

 Best Regards,
   =Adrian=

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TSM Skipping my Disk Pools

2008-08-21 Thread Doug Fox
It looks as if in the last week or so nothing will backup to my disk pools,
despite them not being full and showing as online. Each backup regardless of
domain policy have been using their next storage pool. Is there something
I'm missing that would make the library act this way? I feel like it's
something Minor that may have changed. All disk pools show as online and
read/write. I can kick off a manual migrate of data from disk to tape, but
no clients are backing up to disk.

It sounds like something ridiculous and easy... but can't seem to put my
finger on it.


Re: DB Mirroring - Poll and question

2008-08-21 Thread Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU
No, we don't run it daily, since it runs so long and slows everything else
down.

I had thought about running timed expires, daily.  Maybe it's time to turn
that on.




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WOW, the 342 Million files is what is killing you but it still seems like
an excessive amount of time. You mentioned Saturday as when it starts. You
are running expiration daily aren't you? You should be able to run
expiration and reclamation to completion each day or you need to look at
another instance or configuration to meet your resource needs. If you
don't
complete expiration and reclamation daily, you will be queueing up
unfinished work each day that will turn into a 24-48 hour expiration
run(sounds like you are there). Expiration and reclamation go
hand-in-hand.
If your expiration doesn't complete then you reclamation can't either. As
a
result, you may have a good number of un-reclaimed and un-expired entries
in your database. BTW, I have always been told, by my TSM mentors, that
due
to the database intensive nature of expiration, that it should always run
by itself.


Define LOTS?

My specs are:

194GB DB
206TB Occupancy
342,194,690 files





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We need 4-6 hours for 90GB DB, ~100 clients.  The servers have LOTS of
files.

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager
Michael Green
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 12:48 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] DB Mirroring - Poll and question

48 hours sounds like an awfully looong time to me.
On my busiest Linux server (90gb DB, ~100 clients) expiration completes
in 20-30 minutes.

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From: Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 18:14
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] DB Mirroring - Poll and question


On my big, 194GB production Linux server, an EXPIRE INVENTORY runs 40-48
hours.  Granted, the server is very busy performing other tasks such as
client backups, stgbackups and such.  The DB buffers and such are
configured identically to the production server.

On my first test expire run on my new test server (to which I reloaded
the
194GB production DB), the expire ran in 10-hours - 1/4 of the usual
time.


Re: TSM Skipping my Disk Pools

2008-08-21 Thread Kauffman, Tom
Check the disk pool to see if the High Mig Pct got set down to zero. (q stg 
poolname). And check to see if the Maximum Size Threshold got set to some 
incredibly small number (q stg poolname f=d).

Tom

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Subject: TSM Skipping my Disk Pools

It looks as if in the last week or so nothing will backup to my disk pools,
despite them not being full and showing as online. Each backup regardless of
domain policy have been using their next storage pool. Is there something
I'm missing that would make the library act this way? I feel like it's
something Minor that may have changed. All disk pools show as online and
read/write. I can kick off a manual migrate of data from disk to tape, but
no clients are backing up to disk.

It sounds like something ridiculous and easy... but can't seem to put my
finger on it.
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Re: DB Mirroring - Poll and question

2008-08-21 Thread Shawn Drew
I've seen this recommendation grow over time.  The Storage Symposium
presenter, who mentioned it the last time I heard it, said its just a
general number they come up with that is tied to the average server that
TSM is installed on.  It's a rule of thumb.  As the hardware gets more
powerful over time, they increase this number.
So if you have a monster server that is above the average of what people
have out there, you can definitely go above 120gB.

Judge if your db size is appropriate based on DB performance with YOUR
data, such as expiration time, database backups, etc

Regards,
Shawn

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Hi,
I remember reading somewhere that a TSM DB should ideally not be allowed
to grow passed 120GB before having another instance of TSM.
You will find that you will have a major problem should you have to run
an AUDITDB for example if you ever have errors in your DB. Instead of
hours or a day, you would face an AUDIT of weeks, which happened to a
TSM user in South Africa a while back.

I would look into splitting the Server up.

Regards



Adrian Compton
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Sent: 21 August 2008 00:06 AM
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Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] DB Mirroring - Poll and question

(using small voice)  I guess it's not lots.  124,858,663 files, 131 TB
occupancy, 90 GB database, ~100 clients.

Jim

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Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] DB Mirroring - Poll and question

WOW, the 342 Million files is what is killing you but it still seems
like
an excessive amount of time. You mentioned Saturday as when it starts.
You
are running expiration daily aren't you? You should be able to run
expiration and reclamation to completion each day or you need to look at
another instance or configuration to meet your resource needs. If you
don't
complete expiration and reclamation daily, you will be queueing up
unfinished work each day that will turn into a 24-48 hour expiration
run(sounds like you are there). Expiration and reclamation go
hand-in-hand.
If your expiration doesn't complete then you reclamation can't either.
As a
result, you may have a good number of un-reclaimed and un-expired
entries
in your database. BTW, I have always been told, by my TSM mentors, that
due
to the database intensive nature of expiration, that it should always
run
by itself.


Define LOTS?

My specs are:

194GB DB
206TB Occupancy
342,194,690 files





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We need 4-6 hours for 90GB DB, ~100 clients.  The servers have LOTS of
files.

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Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 12:48 PM
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48 hours sounds like an awfully looong time to me.
On my busiest Linux server (90gb DB, ~100 clients) expiration completes
in 20-30 minutes.

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Subject: [ADSM-L] DB Mirroring - Poll and question


On my big, 194GB production Linux server, an EXPIRE INVENTORY runs 40-48
hours.  Granted, the server is very busy performing other tasks such as
client backups, stgbackups and such.  The DB buffers and such are
configured identically to the production server.

On my first test expire run on my new test server (to which I reloaded
the
194GB production DB), the expire ran in 10-hours - 1/4 of the usual
time.


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Re: DB Mirroring - Poll and question

2008-08-21 Thread Shawn Drew
I saw these on this page:
http://www.lascon.co.uk/d005002.htm

Also, The latest performance tuning guide database performance section:
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/tivihelp/v1r1/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.itsmm.doc/b_perf_tuning_guide27.htm


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Why not use some old IBM scripts when comparing performance???

The scrips was orginally published under How to determine when disk
tuning is needed for your ITSM server
at http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21141810. See
discussion at
http://www.mail-archive.com/adsm-l@vm.marist.edu/msg51968.html



On my first test expire run on my new test server (to which I reloaded
the 194GB production DB), the expire ran in 10-hours - 1/4 of the usual
time.
Reload = Unload + load DB, or only a restore DB?

//Henrik


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(using small voice)  I guess it's not lots.  124,858,663 files, 131 TB
occupancy, 90 GB database, ~100 clients.

Jim

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Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] DB Mirroring - Poll and question

WOW, the 342 Million files is what is killing you but it still seems
like an excessive amount of time. You mentioned Saturday as when it
starts.
You
are running expiration daily aren't you? You should be able to run
expiration and reclamation to completion each day or you need to look at
another instance or configuration to meet your resource needs. If you
don't complete expiration and reclamation daily, you will be queueing up
unfinished work each day that will turn into a 24-48 hour expiration
run(sounds like you are there). Expiration and reclamation go
hand-in-hand.
If your expiration doesn't complete then you reclamation can't either.
As a
result, you may have a good number of un-reclaimed and un-expired
entries in your database. BTW, I have always been told, by my TSM
mentors, that due to the database intensive nature of expiration, that
it should always run by itself.


Define LOTS?

My specs are:

194GB DB
206TB Occupancy
342,194,690 files





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We need 4-6 hours for 90GB DB, ~100 clients.  The servers have LOTS of
files.

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Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 12:48 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] DB Mirroring - Poll and question

48 hours sounds like an awfully looong time to me.
On my busiest Linux server (90gb DB, ~100 clients) expiration completes
in 20-30 minutes.

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Subject: [ADSM-L] DB Mirroring - Poll and question


On my big, 194GB production Linux server, an EXPIRE INVENTORY runs 40-48
hours.  Granted, the server is very busy performing other tasks such as
client backups, stgbackups and such.  The DB buffers and such are
configured identically to the production server.

On my first test expire run on my new test server (to which I reloaded
the 194GB production DB), the expire ran in 10-hours - 1/4 of the usual
time.


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Re: DB Mirroring - Poll and question

2008-08-21 Thread Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU
Well, so far my experimenting with this brand new, totally unused, freshly
loaded DB, has yield some interesting results.

The first run with a single 194GB DB (versus the production which has many
smaller DB volumes to comprise the 194GB) took 12-hours.  There were no
DBcopies.

The second run (2-days later to allow some things to expire) with DBcopies
on a separate physical volume, took 11-hours.

So basically, even if I tried to run an expire every day, it would still
encroach into the daily backups, significantly slowing them down.

My next trick is to increase the BUFPOOLSIZE to 2GB (up from 1.5GB) and
see if that makes a significant improvement.

It seems I have hit a structural/performance limit, which is why I have
this new server - to move things off this server. Unfortunately, we have
some heavy-hitters (one node has over 50M entries).



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WOW, the 342 Million files is what is killing you but it still seems like
an excessive amount of time. You mentioned Saturday as when it starts. You
are running expiration daily aren't you? You should be able to run
expiration and reclamation to completion each day or you need to look at
another instance or configuration to meet your resource needs. If you
don't
complete expiration and reclamation daily, you will be queueing up
unfinished work each day that will turn into a 24-48 hour expiration
run(sounds like you are there). Expiration and reclamation go
hand-in-hand.
If your expiration doesn't complete then you reclamation can't either. As
a
result, you may have a good number of un-reclaimed and un-expired entries
in your database. BTW, I have always been told, by my TSM mentors, that
due
to the database intensive nature of expiration, that it should always run
by itself.


Define LOTS?

My specs are:

194GB DB
206TB Occupancy
342,194,690 files





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We need 4-6 hours for 90GB DB, ~100 clients.  The servers have LOTS of
files.

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48 hours sounds like an awfully looong time to me.
On my busiest Linux server (90gb DB, ~100 clients) expiration completes
in 20-30 minutes.

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On my big, 194GB production Linux server, an EXPIRE INVENTORY runs 40-48
hours.  Granted, the server is very busy performing other tasks such as
client backups, stgbackups and such.  The DB buffers and such are
configured identically to the production server.

On my first test expire run on my new test server (to which I reloaded
the
194GB production DB), the expire ran in 10-hours - 1/4 of the usual
time.


reclaim stgpool

2008-08-21 Thread Richard Mochnaczewski
Hi *,

We have recently started to use the reclaim stgpool command. What is the most 
efficient way to use this command ? How are users using the offsitereclaimlimit 
and threshold settings ? We are reclaiming tapes, but not nearly as efficiently 
as before when we would use the reclaim=60 parameter . We are at TSM 5.4.3 
running on AIX 5.3 TL8.

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Re: reclaim stgpool

2008-08-21 Thread Shawn Drew
We still use the thresholds instead of the reclaim stg command.  I would
make the switch if they added an endtime option as opposed to the
duration it currently has.

Our daily maintenance processes vary greatly in the amount of time they
take to complete each day, so duration is completely useless for us.
I would prefer the reclaim stg command because the process are actually
canceled when the Duration lapses.


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Re: reclaim stgpool

2008-08-21 Thread Kauffman, Tom
I built a stupid little script to compute the time in minutes from 'now' to our 
designated end-time. It then fires off reclaim stg commands with the calculated 
duration. Works OK for us.

Tom

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We still use the thresholds instead of the reclaim stg command.  I would
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Our daily maintenance processes vary greatly in the amount of time they
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not nearly as efficiently as before when we would use the reclaim=60
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Re: reclaim stgpool

2008-08-21 Thread Shawn Drew
a TSM script? or a shell script?

If it's a TSM script, can you post it?

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I built a stupid little script to compute the time in minutes from 'now'
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We still use the thresholds instead of the reclaim stg command.  I would
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Our daily maintenance processes vary greatly in the amount of time they
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Rebinding files to a new management class?

2008-08-21 Thread Joni Moyer
Hi Everyone!

If I have a particular file system, /u01,  that had been receiving the
default management class, but I would like it to now have the mc365
management class assigned to it in the include/exclude list, will all
files backed up under the /u01 file system be rebound to the mc365
management class tonight when it does it's incremental backup?  I just
wanted to make sure that I was 100% sure about this.  Thanks so much!

Rebinding associates a file or a logical volume image with a new
management class.
Backups of files are bound again to a different management class in the
following conditions. In each condition, the files (active and inactive)
are not bound again until the next backup.
You specify a different management class in an Include statement to change
the management class for the file. The backups are managed based on the
old management class until you run another backup.
Your administrator deletes the management class from your active policy
set. The default management class is used to manage the backup versions
when you back up the file again.
Your administrator assigns your client node to a different policy domain
and the active policy set in that domain does not have a management class
with the same name. The default management class for the new policy domain
is used to manage the backup versions.

Joni Moyer
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Re: Rebinding files to a new management class?

2008-08-21 Thread Mark Stapleton
All files will be rebound, save those that are strictly inactive (such
as files that have been deleted from the client but have not yet
expired).
 
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 -Original Message-
 From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
 Of Joni Moyer
 Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 11:15 AM
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 Subject: [ADSM-L] Rebinding files to a new management class?
 
 Hi Everyone!
 
 If I have a particular file system, /u01,  that had been receiving the
 default management class, but I would like it to now have the mc365
 management class assigned to it in the include/exclude list, will all
 files backed up under the /u01 file system be rebound to the mc365
 management class tonight when it does it's incremental backup?  I just
 wanted to make sure that I was 100% sure about this.  Thanks so much!
 
 Rebinding associates a file or a logical volume image with a new
 management class.
 Backups of files are bound again to a different management class in
the
 following conditions. In each condition, the files (active and
 inactive)
 are not bound again until the next backup.
 You specify a different management class in an Include statement to
 change
 the management class for the file. The backups are managed based on
the
 old management class until you run another backup.
 Your administrator deletes the management class from your active
policy
 set. The default management class is used to manage the backup
versions
 when you back up the file again.
 Your administrator assigns your client node to a different policy
 domain
 and the active policy set in that domain does not have a management
 class
 with the same name. The default management class for the new policy
 domain
 is used to manage the backup versions.
 
 Joni Moyer
 Highmark
 Storage Systems, Storage Mngt Analyst III
 Phone Number: (717)302-9966
 Fax: (717) 302-9826
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 


Re: Rebinding files to a new management class?

2008-08-21 Thread Laughlin, Lisa
And see also the Technote for Retention modification for subset of data
in a management class.

thanks!
lisa 


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All files will be rebound, save those that are strictly inactive (such
as files that have been deleted from the client but have not yet
expired).
 
--
Mark Stapleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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 Of Joni Moyer
 Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 11:15 AM
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 Subject: [ADSM-L] Rebinding files to a new management class?
 
 Hi Everyone!
 
 If I have a particular file system, /u01,  that had been receiving the
 default management class, but I would like it to now have the mc365
 management class assigned to it in the include/exclude list, will all
 files backed up under the /u01 file system be rebound to the mc365
 management class tonight when it does it's incremental backup?  I just
 wanted to make sure that I was 100% sure about this.  Thanks so much!
 
 Rebinding associates a file or a logical volume image with a new
 management class.
 Backups of files are bound again to a different management class in
the
 following conditions. In each condition, the files (active and
 inactive)
 are not bound again until the next backup.
 You specify a different management class in an Include statement to
 change
 the management class for the file. The backups are managed based on
the
 old management class until you run another backup.
 Your administrator deletes the management class from your active
policy
 set. The default management class is used to manage the backup
versions
 when you back up the file again.
 Your administrator assigns your client node to a different policy
 domain
 and the active policy set in that domain does not have a management
 class
 with the same name. The default management class for the new policy
 domain
 is used to manage the backup versions.
 
 Joni Moyer
 Highmark
 Storage Systems, Storage Mngt Analyst III
 Phone Number: (717)302-9966
 Fax: (717) 302-9826
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Re: Rebinding files to a new management class?

2008-08-21 Thread Joni Moyer
Hi Lisa,

Do you have a link to that technote?  I'm not seeing it on the IBM site.

Thanks!


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And see also the Technote for Retention modification for subset of data
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thanks!
lisa


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All files will be rebound, save those that are strictly inactive (such
as files that have been deleted from the client but have not yet
expired).

--
Mark Stapleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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 Subject: [ADSM-L] Rebinding files to a new management class?

 Hi Everyone!

 If I have a particular file system, /u01,  that had been receiving the
 default management class, but I would like it to now have the mc365
 management class assigned to it in the include/exclude list, will all
 files backed up under the /u01 file system be rebound to the mc365
 management class tonight when it does it's incremental backup?  I just
 wanted to make sure that I was 100% sure about this.  Thanks so much!

 Rebinding associates a file or a logical volume image with a new
 management class.
 Backups of files are bound again to a different management class in
the
 following conditions. In each condition, the files (active and
 inactive)
 are not bound again until the next backup.
 You specify a different management class in an Include statement to
 change
 the management class for the file. The backups are managed based on
the
 old management class until you run another backup.
 Your administrator deletes the management class from your active
policy
 set. The default management class is used to manage the backup
versions
 when you back up the file again.
 Your administrator assigns your client node to a different policy
 domain
 and the active policy set in that domain does not have a management
 class
 with the same name. The default management class for the new policy
 domain
 is used to manage the backup versions.
 
 Joni Moyer
 Highmark
 Storage Systems, Storage Mngt Analyst III
 Phone Number: (717)302-9966
 Fax: (717) 302-9826
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Re: Rebinding files to a new management class?

2008-08-21 Thread Richard Sims

Athttp://www-306.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/
IBMTivoliStorageManager.html
searching on Retention modification for subset of data
reveals Technote 1234247

On Aug 21, 2008, at 12:37 PM, Joni Moyer wrote:


Hi Lisa,

Do you have a link to that technote?  I'm not seeing it on the IBM
site.

Thanks!


Joni Moyer
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Phone Number: (717)302-9966
Fax: (717) 302-9826
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Re: Rebinding files to a new management class?

2008-08-21 Thread Joni Moyer
Thank you everyone for your input to this issue!  I really appreciate the
quick response!


Joni Moyer
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Athttp://www-306.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/
IBMTivoliStorageManager.html
searching on Retention modification for subset of data
reveals Technote 1234247

On Aug 21, 2008, at 12:37 PM, Joni Moyer wrote:

 Hi Lisa,

 Do you have a link to that technote?  I'm not seeing it on the IBM
 site.

 Thanks!

 
 Joni Moyer
 Highmark
 Storage Systems, Storage Mngt Analyst III
 Phone Number: (717)302-9966
 Fax: (717) 302-9826
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Re: Migration

2008-08-21 Thread Lepre, James
Hello Everyone

  I have a question regarding Migration

We are running Tivoli 5.4.1.1. on a windows platform, using a Quantum
DXI 5500 VTL.  My question is during a migration which tapes are used
first, tapes that are not full or scratch tapes.  Meaning will TSM fill
up a tape to 100% then use scratch tapes or if scratch tapes are
available it uses them first.

Thank you 

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Re: TSM Skipping my Disk Pools

2008-08-21 Thread Doug Fox
Well with all my 'vast' knowledge and experience it definitely was something
remedial. After rebooting the system about half the disk vol's came up in
read only. Of course none of which I had checked initially. I'm back up and
running after they went read-only somehow.

Is there a particular reason they would have changed to read only? weird.

Thanks again guys!

On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 9:40 AM, Kauffman, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Check the disk pool to see if the High Mig Pct got set down to zero. (q
 stg poolname). And check to see if the Maximum Size Threshold got set to
 some incredibly small number (q stg poolname f=d).

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 of
 domain policy have been using their next storage pool. Is there something
 I'm missing that would make the library act this way? I feel like it's
 something Minor that may have changed. All disk pools show as online and
 read/write. I can kick off a manual migrate of data from disk to tape, but
 no clients are backing up to disk.

 It sounds like something ridiculous and easy... but can't seem to put my
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Re: Migration

2008-08-21 Thread Shawn Drew
Check out the entry for Filling on here:
http://people.bu.edu/rbs/ADSM.QuickFacts

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Hello Everyone

I have a question regarding Migration

We are running Tivoli 5.4.1.1. on a windows platform, using a Quantum
DXI 5500 VTL.  My question is during a migration which tapes are used
first, tapes that are not full or scratch tapes.  Meaning will TSM fill
up a tape to 100% then use scratch tapes or if scratch tapes are
available it uses them first.

Thank you

Jim



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Re: Migration

2008-08-21 Thread Richard Sims

On Aug 21, 2008, at 1:12 PM, Lepre, James wrote:


Hello Everyone

  I have a question regarding Migration

We are running Tivoli 5.4.1.1. on a windows platform, using a Quantum
DXI 5500 VTL.  My question is during a migration which tapes are used
first, tapes that are not full or scratch tapes.  Meaning will TSM
fill
up a tape to 100% then use scratch tapes or if scratch tapes are
available it uses them first.



TSM's practice is to use Filling tapes, where they are fully eligible
(in library, writable, and mountable or mounted and idle).  It will
span to a scratch tape.  If there are multiple Filling tapes, it
tends to leave the other one behind, until there are no more tapes,
in which case it will relent and use that otherwise orphaned Filling
tape.  Where a Filling tape is in use by another session/process, or
is dismounting when TSM needs another tape to continue writing, it
goes for a scratch - which is how the orphan can result.

  Richard Sims


FW: Retention modification for subset of data in a management class.

2008-08-21 Thread Laughlin, Lisa
Joni- let me know if the link doesn’t come through- lisa

 

 

Feed: Tivoli - IBM Tivoli Storage Manager
Posted on: Monday, July 07, 2008 10:20 AM
Author: Tivoli - IBM Tivoli Storage Manager
Subject: Retention modification for subset of data in a management class.

 

Changing the retention for some data within a management class without changing 
the retention for everything.


View article... 
http://www.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=663context=SSGSG7dc=DB520dc=DB560uid=swg21234247loc=en_UScs=UTF-8lang=enrss=ct663tivoli
 



Exchange Cluster, CCR and TDP Backups

2008-08-21 Thread Bill Boyer
Could someone point me to some information on backing up an Exchange
cluster, non-shared disk and CCR replication? I'm concerned that if I set up
the TDP backups as a cluster resource to fail-over when Exchange fails over,
that backing up different storage will cause me problems in a restore. Or is
that a non-issue and I should just setup TDP backups to fail-over and keep
backing up with the same frequency?



Exchange2007, Windows2003 cluster, non-shared disk.



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Clustering TSM servers?

2008-08-21 Thread Nick Laflamme

How common is it for sites to cluster TSM servers?

I'm looking for my next TSM position and have found at least one
situation, perhaps two, where the would-be client wants TSM
administrators who are familiar with CSM in an AIX/p-series
environment. As far as I can tell, that implies setting up the TSM
servers to fail-over so that if one fails, a hot-spare immediately
covers for it. I've never heard of this, and I've worked in a couple
of large, multi-TSM server environments.

My working theory is that someone took an AIX administrator set of
requirements as a template and didn't remove enough extraneous
buzzwords, but if more sites than I realize are clustering TSM
servers, I guess I should know that, too.

Thanks,
Nick


Re: Clustering TSM servers?

2008-08-21 Thread Remco Post

On Aug 21, 2008, at 21:44 , Nick Laflamme wrote:


How common is it for sites to cluster TSM servers?



I know of some organizations that at one time or the other used to run
TSM in a HACMP cluster. Most (if not all) decided that the current IBM
p series hardware has so much built-in resilience (or redundancy) that
hacmp only adds complexity without much benefits, esp in multi-CEC
p570 systems.

So yes, there used to be quite a few, and currently, well fewer and
fewer. Hardware failure in a p5 system is so rarely fully service
affecting that it's just not worth it.

Now, remember it's only backups. You could possibly argue having a
cold-standby TSM server on a remote location, running some automated
db restore script that will allow you to get started again in very
little time with a very short rpo, but HACMP or other fail-over
clusters make no sense to me.


I'm looking for my next TSM position and have found at least one
situation, perhaps two, where the would-be client wants TSM
administrators who are familiar with CSM in an AIX/p-series
environment. As far as I can tell, that implies setting up the TSM
servers to fail-over so that if one fails, a hot-spare immediately
covers for it. I've never heard of this, and I've worked in a couple
of large, multi-TSM server environments.

My working theory is that someone took an AIX administrator set of
requirements as a template and didn't remove enough extraneous
buzzwords, but if more sites than I realize are clustering TSM
servers, I guess I should know that, too.

Thanks,
Nick


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TSM reporting

2008-08-21 Thread Avy Wong
Hello,
  Can anyone tell me where I can download the tool for TSM reporting.
My current version is 5.4.3.0. Thanks.




Avy Wong
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Mohegan Sun
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Uncasville, CT 06382
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Fw: Clustering TSM servers?

2008-08-21 Thread Nicholas Cassimatis
Nick,;

Check out Redbook SG24-6679 - IBM Tivoli Storage Manager in a Clustered
Environment.  The date's a little old, but the concepts haven't changed.

Nick Cassimatis

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 How common is it for sites to cluster TSM servers?

 I'm looking for my next TSM position and have found at least one
 situation, perhaps two, where the would-be client wants TSM
 administrators who are familiar with CSM in an AIX/p-series
 environment. As far as I can tell, that implies setting up the TSM
 servers to fail-over so that if one fails, a hot-spare immediately
 covers for it. I've never heard of this, and I've worked in a couple
 of large, multi-TSM server environments.

 My working theory is that someone took an AIX administrator set of
 requirements as a template and didn't remove enough extraneous
 buzzwords, but if more sites than I realize are clustering TSM
 servers, I guess I should know that, too.

 Thanks,
 Nick


Re: TSM reporting

2008-08-21 Thread Shawn Drew
Download it in IBM Passport.  The same place you get the base-level TSM
Server software.

Regards,
Shawn

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Re: TSM reporting

2008-08-21 Thread Tomas Ulbrich
Hello Avy,

ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com/storage/tivoli-storage-management/patches/server/NT/5.4.3.2/
ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com/storage/tivoli-storage-management/patches/server/NT/5.5.0.3/


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TSM Administrative Tasks

2008-08-21 Thread Curtis Preston
It's taking me forever, but I'm still developing the outline for my
latest book.  

 

I have a question for you about managing a TSM system.  What are the
things you find yourself doing on a regular basis and how do you do
them?  Let me give you a few examples.

 

1.  Monitoring backup success/failure.

a.  CLI
b.  TSM web interface
c.  third party product

2.  Rerunning failed/missed backups
3.  Putting tapes in a tape library, making them ready to use
4.  Getting tapes offsite

a.  I send originals and don't make copies
b.  I send copies and make them via scripting
c.  I tell TSM how many copies and it manages everything

5.  Expiration

a.  Run it every day/once a week, etc

6.  Reclamation

a.  I set my threshold and forget it
b.  I set my threshold to 100% during backups, then back to
my desired threshold after backups are done
c.  I set my threshold to 100% during backups, then
gradually increase decrease my reclamation threshold

7.  Make backup sets/instant archives

a.  If you use them, what do you use them for?

8.  Active data pool
9.  Monitoring for capacity/throughput issues

a.  Splitting/migrating part of a TSM instance to another
instance

10. Installing new clients

 

I'm not taking a survey of the different methods, here.  I don't need to
know how many people are doing what -- I'm just trying to make sure my
list of administrative tasks is complete.

 

Thanks in advance for any help.

 


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Re: TSM Administrative Tasks

2008-08-21 Thread Howard Coles
Under the reclamation section:
D.  I don't mess with thresholds at all and use the reclaim stg
process with/without duration limits. (NOTE:  this allows running
multiple processes against the same pool where just setting thresholds
does not, and many other benefits.)

Under Installing new clients:
A.  Data Protection Agents and their quirks. (Include setting up
Policy Domains for each type, i.e. Oracle is setup completely different
from SQL Server, which is completely different from Exchange, etc.).
B.  File Backup/Archive tweaks.

You might want to discuss how to get / direct data from clients to
specific media i.e. Disk, Tape, Centera, Optical, VTL, disk file type,
etc. and migrating / copying data between them.  (setting hi  lo
thresholds for migration as opposed to using the migrate stg command,
using move data, etc.)

See Ya'
Howard


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 From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
 Of Curtis Preston
 Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 5:14 PM
 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
 Subject: [ADSM-L] TSM Administrative Tasks
 
 It's taking me forever, but I'm still developing the outline for my
 latest book.
 
 
 
 I have a question for you about managing a TSM system.  What are the
 things you find yourself doing on a regular basis and how do you do
 them?  Let me give you a few examples.
 
 
 
 1.Monitoring backup success/failure.
 
   a.  CLI
   b.  TSM web interface
   c.  third party product
 
 2.Rerunning failed/missed backups
 3.Putting tapes in a tape library, making them ready to use
 4.Getting tapes offsite
 
   a.  I send originals and don't make copies
   b.  I send copies and make them via scripting
   c.  I tell TSM how many copies and it manages everything
 
 5.Expiration
 
   a.  Run it every day/once a week, etc
 
 6.Reclamation
 
   a.  I set my threshold and forget it
   b.  I set my threshold to 100% during backups, then back to
 my desired threshold after backups are done
   c.  I set my threshold to 100% during backups, then
 gradually increase decrease my reclamation threshold
 
 7.Make backup sets/instant archives
 
   a.  If you use them, what do you use them for?
 
 8.Active data pool
 9.Monitoring for capacity/throughput issues
 
   a.  Splitting/migrating part of a TSM instance to another
 instance
 
 10.   Installing new clients
 
 
 
 I'm not taking a survey of the different methods, here.  I don't need
 to
 know how many people are doing what -- I'm just trying to make sure my
 list of administrative tasks is complete.
 
 
 
 Thanks in advance for any help.
 
 
 
 
 Curtis Preston | VP Data Protection
 GlassHouse Technologies, Inc.