Re: Used 3494 / 3590 equip

2009-07-25 Thread Gee, Norman
What would 3490-C2A worth.  Less than nothing?  They are probably worth
less than the annual maintenance cost.  

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Allen S. Rout
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 10:51 AM
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Subject: Re: Used 3494 / 3590 equip

>> On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 14:51:24 -0400, "Druckenmiller, David"
 said:


> Just wondering if anyone knows what the market might be for a
> 3-frame 3494 with 8 3590-H1A drives.  Also, is there market for
> about 1800 used 3590E cartridges?  We just finished migrating off
> and my boss just wants to trash the whole thing.  I'd be curious to
> know just how much money they're throwing away.


When we did this exercise some years ago it was concluded that the
market value of the 3590 drives was less than half the expense of
banding them for maintenance.

3590 equipment is of negative value in the general market, and those
folks who are still using it are aware of this, so difficult to trick
into paying real money.

If you're lucky, you'll find someone who's willing to pay for the
shipping, if you give them away.


- Allen S. Rout
- Still has 10G 3590 tapes in his library, but they belong to someone
else.


Re: Used 3494 / 3590 equip

2009-07-25 Thread Allen S. Rout
>> On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 14:51:24 -0400, "Druckenmiller, David" 
>>  said:


> Just wondering if anyone knows what the market might be for a
> 3-frame 3494 with 8 3590-H1A drives.  Also, is there market for
> about 1800 used 3590E cartridges?  We just finished migrating off
> and my boss just wants to trash the whole thing.  I'd be curious to
> know just how much money they're throwing away.


When we did this exercise some years ago it was concluded that the
market value of the 3590 drives was less than half the expense of
banding them for maintenance.

3590 equipment is of negative value in the general market, and those
folks who are still using it are aware of this, so difficult to trick
into paying real money.

If you're lucky, you'll find someone who's willing to pay for the
shipping, if you give them away.


- Allen S. Rout
- Still has 10G 3590 tapes in his library, but they belong to someone else.


Re: TSM gui

2009-07-25 Thread Wanda Prather
I agree, the 6.1 Admin Center is genuinely better than previous releases.

EXCEPT for the command-line pop-up java window.  The problem isn't the
queries, it's the java window processing it.  I usually keep an AC window
open for configuration tasks, and an admin command line open for queries.

FWIW, I have seen performance problems with the AC being slow, that were
actually due to the specific desktop/browser combination in use to access
it.  (I can only assume it's the java handling on the particular desktop.)
I've got customers getting great performance using the ISC/AC, when the
ISC/AC itself is installed on a modest Windows config.

Anybody running the 5.5 or 6.1 AC, getting lousy performance, try it again
accessing via a different browser/different desktop, see if you get
different results.

W



On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Clark, Margaret  wrote:

> Carol Trible wrote: "It seems that long term customers tend to stick to the
> command line, but new customers who start with the Administration Center
> like it, so I would reccomend giving it a try."
>
> I started administering TSM in 2006, and my first task was to install the
> Administration Center for the first time at this site.  I've used it ever
> since.
> I am currently using the 6.1 release to administer two 5.5.3.0 servers and
> one 5.5.1.0 server.
> (Incidentally, I had trouble finding the software for the new Admin Center,
> and so did the first three IBM staff members who tried to help me.
> Although the installation process tells you it is  "Installing... TSM
> Administration Center", the product name you have to look for now is "Tivoli
> Storage Manager Reporting and Monitoring".)
>
> The 6.1 Admin Center is genuinely better than previous releases, and twice
> as fast, but it's still agonizingly slow for longer inquiries.
> Some queries are impossible when using the Admin Center command line
> interface, because they die before returning results.
> For the last few months, I've had a Servergraph tool to use as well, and
> inquiries that take only seconds with Servergraph take ten minutes using the
> Admin Center.
>
> I'd certainly recommend that new TSM administrators try out the Admin
> Center - it's so useful - but you still need a LOT of patience to use it.
>
> - Margaret Clark
> Systems Programmer, San Diego Data Processing Corporation
>


Re: TSM gui

2009-07-25 Thread Wanda Prather
I agree, the 6.1 Admin Center is genuinely better than previous releases.

BUT for the command-line pop-up java window.  The problem isn't the queries,
it's the java window processing it.  I usually keep the AC open for
configuration, and an admin command line open for

On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Clark, Margaret  wrote:

> Carol Trible wrote: "It seems that long term customers tend to stick to the
> command line, but new customers who start with the Administration Center
> like it, so I would reccomend giving it a try."
>
> I started administering TSM in 2006, and my first task was to install the
> Administration Center for the first time at this site.  I've used it ever
> since.
> I am currently using the 6.1 release to administer two 5.5.3.0 servers and
> one 5.5.1.0 server.
> (Incidentally, I had trouble finding the software for the new Admin Center,
> and so did the first three IBM staff members who tried to help me.
> Although the installation process tells you it is  "Installing... TSM
> Administration Center", the product name you have to look for now is "Tivoli
> Storage Manager Reporting and Monitoring".)
>
> The 6.1 Admin Center is genuinely better than previous releases, and twice
> as fast, but it's still agonizingly slow for longer inquiries.
> Some queries are impossible when using the Admin Center command line
> interface, because they die before returning results.
> For the last few months, I've had a Servergraph tool to use as well, and
> inquiries that take only seconds with Servergraph take ten minutes using the
> Admin Center.
>
> I'd certainly recommend that new TSM administrators try out the Admin
> Center - it's so useful - but you still need a LOT of patience to use it.
>
> - Margaret Clark
> Systems Programmer, San Diego Data Processing Corporation
>


Re: TDP Exchange Error

2009-07-25 Thread Yudi Darmadi

Hi,

I think the problem was the exchange it self. Every morning, the exchange
service take a big resource memory (about 8 GIgs), so we're still waiting
for the exchange guy to solve that problem. One more thing, after a full or
incremental backup, what's happening to the exchange log? Is it directly
deleted, or it will deleted after a cycle log? Does anyone have experinces
on this?


Best Regards,


Yudi Darmadi
PT Niagaprima Paramitra
Jl. KH Ahmad Dahlan No.25  Kebayoran Baru, Jakarta Selatan 12130
Phone: 021-72799949; Fax: 021-72799950; Mobile: 081905530830
http://www.niagaprima.com

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From: "Tchuise, Bertaut" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 7:46 PM
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TDP Exchange Error


Yudi,

Did you see any outstanding error messages from Exchange in the event
viewer? Did you get additional information from the logs in the TDPExch
directory? "tdpexcc q exchange" showed that circular logging was
disabled; so TDP shouldn't be assuming otherwise. You may want to work
on this issue with your exchange admin before restarting the exchange
server. If non-conclusive, enable tracing, run a manual full then incr
or diff backup, provide the trace to IBM for further investigation.

Please Yudi, let us know once you find out what caused your issue.

BERTAUT TCHUISE
Storage Support Administrator
Legg Mason Technology Services
*410-580-7032
btchu...@leggmason.com


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Yudi Darmadi
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 9:08 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TDP Exchange Error

I'm using legacy backup, and From The "tdpexcc q exchange" command, all
circular logging are disabled. It seems that when backup occured, tdp
exchange still asume the circular logging were enabled. Do i have to
stop & restart the exchange server?


Best Regards,


Yudi Darmadi

- Original Message -
From: "Tchuise, Bertaut" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 12:42 AM
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TDP Exchange Error


Yudi,

After the legacy and VSS full backups, the exchange server deletes the
logs; the logs won't be deleted if the storage groups are not mounted.
Similarly during the legacy incremental backups, the exchange server
deletes the transactional logs after they are being backed up.
Using the command line, run "tdpexcc query exchange" to ensure that the
circular logging is effectively disabled on the exchange server and
check the event viewer.

BERTAUT TCHUISE
Storage Support Administrator
Legg Mason Technology Services
*410-580-7032
btchu...@leggmason.com




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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of
Yudi Darmadi


Dear TSM-ers,

I need help for my Exchange Backup.
I got this message when performing an incremental Backup:
*ACN5798E MS Exchange API HRESEBACKUPSETUP() failed with HRESULT:
0xc800020e -An incremental backup cannot be performed when circular
logging is enabled.
*ACN5798E MS Exchange API HRESEBACKUPOPENFILE() failed with HRESULT:
0xc8000232 -Some log or patch files are missing.
But The Circular logging for all Storage Groups had already disabled.
There's no problem when performing Full Backup, but the logs weren't
deleted. Does a full backup straight automatically delete those logs?

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