Re: TSM 6.2 Slowness

2010-05-12 Thread BEYERS Kurt
Andrew,

Perform the following action to see what is wrong with the volume:

audit vol /tsmstg/001E.BFS fix=yes

best regards,
Kurt

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Carlson
Verzonden: woensdag 12 mei 2010 4:32
Aan: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Onderwerp: [ADSM-L] TSM 6.2 Slowness

I have been testing TSM 6.2 on a P570 P5 8 core 32GB box (I'm kinda
lucky right now to have that as a test box).

I am attending TSM 6.1 Advanced Admin and Tuning class right now, and
found out some stuff about Deduplication that I didn't know.  So,  I
went to delete all the filespaces in the system, which were very few,
and it took much longer than I thought it would.  The number on the
process went up very slowly.  This is a file type stgpool, so there is
no shredding going on.

Image my surprise, when I was done, the volumes were all still there!
Query content showed no files, but delete volume creates a process,
and each one runs forever.   I just noticed this one, that failed:

Session established with server TSMCAB1: AIX Server Version 6, Release
2, Level 0.0
  Server date/time: 05/11/10   21:18:01  Last access: 05/11/10
20:59:16
ANS8000I Server command: 'del vol /tsmstg/001E.BFS discardd=yes
wait=yes'
ANR0984I Process 49 for DELETE VOLUME (DISCARD DATA) started in the
FOREGROUND
at 21:18:01.
Error 82 deleting chunk 25026787 from volume /tsmstg/001E.BFS
ANR0988I Process 49 for DELETE VOLUME (DISCARD DATA) running in the
FOREGROUND
processed 33,581,789,624 bytes with a completion state of FAILURE at
21:26:59.
ANS8001I Return code 4.

ANS8002I Highest return code was 4.

So, server data/time of 20:59, the process didn't start until 21:18,
and didn't finish until 21:26.  I could understand this if it was a
busy system, but this is ALL that it is doing.  Any ideas out there?
I checked before I wrote this, and there is no maintenance or patches
for 6.2 yet.

Thanks for any insight you might have.

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Re: TSM 6.2 Slowness

2010-05-12 Thread Richard Sims
You probably have database damage, which can result from running the server 
without the safeguards recommended in the Admin Guide manual.  Running Query 
CONtent ... DAmaged=Yes on the volume may reveal the files in trouble.

   Richard Sims   http://people.bu.edu/rbs/


Re: Securing TSM Client

2010-05-12 Thread Richard Sims
Leandro -

The problem you're dealing with is a personnel management one, which can't be 
solved by technology alone.  The management there is the only avenue of 
solution.

Technology can help, though.  You can harvest records from the dsmaccnt.log to 
compile a report to management demonstrating the times and data amounts that 
inappropriate people have been performing TSM actions on that client, by virtue 
of field 7 containing a username whenever dsmc is invoked by an individual.  
You could go further by having a dsmadmc-based monitor performing Query SEssion 
Format=Detailed to look for sessions from that node: where the User Name is 
inappropriate, the monitor could then cancel the session and send a 
notification of the usage violation.

Richard Simsat Boston University


Re: TSM 6.2 Slowness

2010-05-12 Thread Andrew Carlson
Sorry, should have mentioned that I tried that.  The audit did nothing.

On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 2:03 AM, BEYERS Kurt kurt.bey...@vrt.be wrote:
 Andrew,

 Perform the following action to see what is wrong with the volume:

 audit vol /tsmstg/001E.BFS fix=yes

 best regards,
 Kurt

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 Van: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] Namens Andrew
 Carlson
 Verzonden: woensdag 12 mei 2010 4:32
 Aan: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
 Onderwerp: [ADSM-L] TSM 6.2 Slowness

 I have been testing TSM 6.2 on a P570 P5 8 core 32GB box (I'm kinda
 lucky right now to have that as a test box).

 I am attending TSM 6.1 Advanced Admin and Tuning class right now, and
 found out some stuff about Deduplication that I didn't know.  So,  I
 went to delete all the filespaces in the system, which were very few,
 and it took much longer than I thought it would.  The number on the
 process went up very slowly.  This is a file type stgpool, so there is
 no shredding going on.

 Image my surprise, when I was done, the volumes were all still there!
 Query content showed no files, but delete volume creates a process,
 and each one runs forever.   I just noticed this one, that failed:

 Session established with server TSMCAB1: AIX Server Version 6, Release
 2, Level 0.0
  Server date/time: 05/11/10   21:18:01  Last access: 05/11/10
 20:59:16
 ANS8000I Server command: 'del vol /tsmstg/001E.BFS discardd=yes
 wait=yes'
 ANR0984I Process 49 for DELETE VOLUME (DISCARD DATA) started in the
 FOREGROUND
 at 21:18:01.
 Error 82 deleting chunk 25026787 from volume /tsmstg/001E.BFS
 ANR0988I Process 49 for DELETE VOLUME (DISCARD DATA) running in the
 FOREGROUND
 processed 33,581,789,624 bytes with a completion state of FAILURE at
 21:26:59.
 ANS8001I Return code 4.

 ANS8002I Highest return code was 4.

 So, server data/time of 20:59, the process didn't start until 21:18,
 and didn't finish until 21:26.  I could understand this if it was a
 busy system, but this is ALL that it is doing.  Any ideas out there?
 I checked before I wrote this, and there is no maintenance or patches
 for 6.2 yet.

 Thanks for any insight you might have.

 --
 Andy Carlson
 
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 $8.95/month,
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Re: TSM 6 database space performance question

2010-05-12 Thread Richard Rhodes
While they are getting the advantage of the disk subsystem spreading the
lun over many drives, they are not getting an advantage at the OS level of
balanced I/O between the luns unless they are using some kind of OS level
stripping.  I'm not really familiar with Linux . . . are they using LVM and
spreading the physical partitions across both luns, or, some kind of true
striping across the luns?

A lun is not just capacity, but also X amount of iops.  If the 2 luns are
simply concatinated then the iops of the new lun is going to be way under
utilizied until the db grows into the space, and even then it will probably
be unbalanced.  This is also true for the disks in the storage system - the
drives represent capacity (mb) as well as iops.  A disk iin the array not
carrying it's share of the i/o load is being wasted.

Rick






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Greetings,
   I have a customer running TSM 6.1.3 on a Linux RedHat 5.4 server.
They are using high-performance SAN attached disk for the TSM database
and logs.  They have created the TSM database all in one directory under
one filesystem.  Recently then needed to add more space, and they carved
out a lun from another RAID group, and then added that lun to the
existing filesystem.  TSM shows that it now has the additional space,
but it is still all under one directory.
   In reading the Performance Guide and Admin Guide, they both recommend
spreading the data out over multiple directories, putting each directory
behind separate disks/luns.  This certainly makes sense to spread the
I/O out over multiple luns, and I get that.  But is there anything wrong
with the way my customer has done it?  They are using multiple luns from
different RAID groups, but they are all put together behind one
directory.  Is this going to become a problem as they add more and more
load to this instance?  If TSM has lots of separate directories and they
are across multiple luns, does TSM do it's database I/O differently?

Best Regards,

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Re: TSM 6.2 Slowness

2010-05-12 Thread Andrew Carlson
q content damaged=yes shows nothing also, just as q content showed nothing.

Is it possible, that since I had deduplication turned on, it turned
the files into chunks and it has way more chunks obviously than files,
and that's why it's taking so long?  I never got any deduplication,
because the data never moved through reclamation or migration, but it
might have still broken it up into chunks and stored extra DB entries
for that.

On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 5:44 AM, Richard Sims r...@bu.edu wrote:
 You probably have database damage, which can result from running the server 
 without the safeguards recommended in the Admin Guide manual.  Running Query 
 CONtent ... DAmaged=Yes on the volume may reveal the files in trouble.

   Richard Sims   http://people.bu.edu/rbs/




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Re: TSM 6.2 Slowness

2010-05-12 Thread Richard Sims
Andy - This might be APAR IC67982.  You are running TSM 6.1 with no 
maintenance, and looks like it needs some.

Richard Sims


Re: TSM 6.2 Slowness

2010-05-12 Thread Andrew Carlson
I am running TSM 6.2 . . . with no maintenance.

On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Richard Sims r...@bu.edu wrote:
 Andy - This might be APAR IC67982.  You are running TSM 6.1 with no 
 maintenance, and looks like it needs some.

    Richard Sims




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Re: Securing TSM Client

2010-05-12 Thread Leandro Mazur
Humm...that's interesting...I'll take a look ! Thanks Richard !

On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Richard Sims r...@bu.edu wrote:

 Leandro -

 The problem you're dealing with is a personnel management one, which can't
 be solved by technology alone.  The management there is the only avenue of
 solution.

 Technology can help, though.  You can harvest records from the dsmaccnt.log
 to compile a report to management demonstrating the times and data amounts
 that inappropriate people have been performing TSM actions on that client,
 by virtue of field 7 containing a username whenever dsmc is invoked by an
 individual.  You could go further by having a dsmadmc-based monitor
 performing Query SEssion Format=Detailed to look for sessions from that
 node: where the User Name is inappropriate, the monitor could then cancel
 the session and send a notification of the usage violation.

Richard Simsat Boston University




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Re: Securing TSM Client

2010-05-12 Thread Shawn Drew
Intended for firewall security, the sessioninitiation property on the
nodes may work for this.
You will have to disable the setting if anyone actually wanted to do a
manual backup or restore
from the client side, but that's a quick upd n

Only the TSM Server would be allowed to start client sessions.

Regards,
Shawn

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Hello everyone !

I don't know if somebody has this kind of problem, but I have the
following
situation in the company I work for:

- We have a TSM team to install, configure and maintain the whole backup
process, server and client;
- We have sysadmins that take care of the operational system and the
applications;
- When there's a need for any action to do with backup, they should open a
ticket for the TSM team;

The problem that we have is that the sysadmins are doing backups/archives
and restores/retrieves without our knowledge, with great impact on our
database (among other things...). We would like to block the access on the
client, but we were not successful. If we use password generate on
dsm.sys, the password is prompted only at first access. If we use
password
prompt, the scheduler doesn't work (ANS2050E)...
Any sugestions from the experts ? Maybe it could be a improvement to IBM
implement on the future...
__
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Re: TSM 6.2 Slowness

2010-05-12 Thread Grigori Solonovitch
Have you tried to restore failed volume from copy pool?
Copy pools are without deduplication and damaged deduplicated data can be 
recovered and thaen removed.


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Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 4:09 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM 6.2 Slowness

q content damaged=yes shows nothing also, just as q content showed nothing.

Is it possible, that since I had deduplication turned on, it turned
the files into chunks and it has way more chunks obviously than files,
and that's why it's taking so long?  I never got any deduplication,
because the data never moved through reclamation or migration, but it
might have still broken it up into chunks and stored extra DB entries
for that.

On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 5:44 AM, Richard Sims r...@bu.edu wrote:
 You probably have database damage, which can result from running the server 
 without the safeguards recommended in the Admin Guide manual.  Running Query 
 CONtent ... DAmaged=Yes on the volume may reveal the files in trouble.

   Richard Sims   http://people.bu.edu/rbs/




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Re: reclamation no longer working

2010-05-12 Thread Ritter, John M
I had the same problem and offsitereclaimlimit=20 (or whatever you want
to limit it to) worked for me.

In my particular situation my server is 5.4.1.0 (I know, very old!)
running on AIX 5.3 (5300-09-01-0847).  I have a few (less than 5-10)
tapes at a 99% reclaimable level in my offsite COPYPOOL01 tapes, but
about 500 tapes that are 98% reclaimable.  If I do NOT specify a
offsitereclaimlimit number it seems to process tapes to reclaim at about
3 tapes per minute.  So for 500 tapes it just sits there for about 3
HOURS before it even starts mounting tapes to start the reclamation.

 I stumbled onto how useful this particular option was about  3 or 4
months ago thanks to this forum, before that I didn't have a clue what
it was supposed to be used for.  Limiting it to 20 tapes lets it
actually start mounting tapes and moving files in about 6 or 7 minutes.

I also noted that in a recent posting in this forum, IBM has fixed the
order in which tapes are reclaimed, and if you specify something like
90%, it will start with 99% first, then 98%, 97%, and so on until it
finishes or runs out of time.  This solves my biggest gripe about
reclamation that I have had.  I have two new servers that will soon be
in production, and they are running the 6.2 TSM, so they should reclaim
much faster.

John

John M. Ritter
Systems Software Specialist
Vanderbilt University Medical Center
Email:  john.rit...@vanderbilt.edu


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Subject: Re: reclamation no longer working

I started a reclamation on that pool yesterday afternoon and it sat
there for several hours before it finally started moving anything. 
I guess I got behind doing the reclamation. But that doesn't make any
sense because the offsite pool and the onsite pool have the same
settings and the same content. Only difference is that one goes off
site. 

I use the same settings when I run reclamation on both pools but I run
them at completely different times and the times don't overlap. When I
run the onsite copypool script the process starts without delay. The
same settings for the offsite copypool takes forever to actually kick
off. 

I guess I'll need to keep a closer eye on things

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Allen S. Rout
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 2:17 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] reclamation no longer working

 On Thu, 6 May 2010 11:11:34 -0400, Tyree, David
david.ty...@sgmc.org said:

 I've run the threshold up and down from a few percentage points up
 to 80-90% hoping something would change but no difference. I have
 plenty of scratch tapes and mount points.


Try running one at 99% and _no_ time limit, and expect it to run for
days.

There's a huge amount of bookkeeping work TSM does at the outset.  If
you've gotten yourself stuck somewhere, and lots of time has passed,
you may have a large backlog.  In that case, trying little nibbles is
the only way to go.

You could also approach this from the

-OFFSITERECLAIMLimit--=--number_of_volumes-

side, limiting it to just a few at a time.


- Allen S. Rout


RedHat 5.2 to 5.4 upgrade causes problems for TSMscsi tape drivers

2010-05-12 Thread John D. Schneider
Greetings,
I have a customer running TSM 6.1.3.3 under RedHat Linux 5.2.  The
Library Master instance on this server has a HP ESL722 tape library with
LTO4 tape drives, and a HP VTL emulating a ESL tape library with LTO3
drives.  They are running the TSMscsi drivers to talk to the drives,
version TIVsm-tsmscsi-6.1.3-1.x86_64.  Any time they reboot the server,
they execute:

cd /opt/tivoli/tsm/devices/bin
./autoconf -a

which loads the tsmscsi driver and configures the drives.  This has been
working fine for months now.  The output is:

**
*   IBM TIVOLI STORAGE MANAGER   *
*   Autoconf Utility Program for Linux   *
**
Licensed Materials - Property of IBM
 
(C) Copyright IBM Corporation 2009. All rights reserved.
U.S. Government Users Restricted Rights - Use, duplication or disclosure
restricted by GSA ADP Schedule Contract with IBM Corporation.
 
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg35.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg36.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg37.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg38.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg39.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg40.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg41.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg42.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg43.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg44.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg45.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg46.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg47.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg48.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg49.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg50.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg51.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg52.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg53.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg54.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg55.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg56.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg57.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg58.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg59.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg60.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg61.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg62.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg63.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg64.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg65.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg66.
 
Tivoli Tape Drives:
===
Index Minor Host CHN ID  LUN Type Vendor_ID Device_Serial_Number  
Product_ID   Rev.
000   035   001  000 000 000 001  HPMXP09210N5   Ultrium
4-SCSI   H36W
001   036   001  000 001 000 001  HPHU18282JH5   Ultrium
4-SCSI   H36W
002   037   001  000 002 000 001  HPHU17340A0J   Ultrium
4-SCSI   H36W
003   038   001  000 003 000 001  HPMXP09210MC   Ultrium
4-SCSI   H36W
004   040   003  000 001 000 001  HPHU18494CGF   Ultrium
4-SCSI   H36W
005   041   003  000 002 000 001  HPMXP09190H5   Ultrium
4-SCSI   H36W
006   042   003  000 003 000 001  HPHU19024M8Y   Ultrium
4-SCSI   H36W
007   044   004  000 000 001 001  HP025qFkNO01   Ultrium
3-SCSI   R210
008   045   004  000 000 002 001  HP025qFkNO02   Ultrium
3-SCSI   R210
009   046   004  000 000 003 001  HP025qFkNO03   Ultrium
3-SCSI   R210
010   047   004  000 000 004 001  HP025qFkNO04   Ultrium
3-SCSI   R210
011   048   004  000 000 005 001  HP025qFkNO05   Ultrium
3-SCSI   R210
012   049   004  000 000 006 001  HP025qFkNO06   Ultrium
3-SCSI   R210
013   050   004  000 000 007 001  HP025qFkNO07   Ultrium
3-SCSI   R210
014   051   005  000 000 000 001  HPHU17430JKJ   Ultrium
4-SCSI   H36W
015   052   005  000 001 000 001  HPMXP09190H4   Ultrium
4-SCSI   H36W
016   053   005  000 002 000 001  HPHU18413JBJ   Ultrium
4-SCSI   H36W
017   054   005  000 003 000 001  HPMXP09170DG   Ultrium
4-SCSI   H36W
018   055   006  000 000 000 001  HP025qFkNO08   Ultrium
3-SCSI   R210
019   056   006  000 000 001 001  HP025qFkNO09   Ultrium
3-SCSI   R210
020   057   006  000 000 002 001  HP025qFkNO0a   Ultrium
3-SCSI   R210
021   

Re: Securing TSM Client

2010-05-12 Thread Leandro Mazur
I've tested this optionit works well, but in cases where the schedule
calls a script, didn't worked because the client could not start the
session...

On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Shawn Drew 
shawn.d...@americas.bnpparibas.com wrote:

 Intended for firewall security, the sessioninitiation property on the
 nodes may work for this.
 You will have to disable the setting if anyone actually wanted to do a
 manual backup or restore
 from the client side, but that's a quick upd n

 Only the TSM Server would be allowed to start client sessions.

 Regards,
 Shawn
 
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 Hello everyone !

 I don't know if somebody has this kind of problem, but I have the
 following
 situation in the company I work for:

 - We have a TSM team to install, configure and maintain the whole backup
 process, server and client;
 - We have sysadmins that take care of the operational system and the
 applications;
 - When there's a need for any action to do with backup, they should open a
 ticket for the TSM team;

 The problem that we have is that the sysadmins are doing backups/archives
 and restores/retrieves without our knowledge, with great impact on our
 database (among other things...). We would like to block the access on the
 client, but we were not successful. If we use password generate on
 dsm.sys, the password is prompted only at first access. If we use
 password
 prompt, the scheduler doesn't work (ANS2050E)...
 Any sugestions from the experts ? Maybe it could be a improvement to IBM
 implement on the future...
 __
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Re: RedHat 5.2 to 5.4 upgrade causes problems for TSMscsi tape drivers

2010-05-12 Thread Len Boyle
Did you upgrade the tape drivers?

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of John 
D. Schneider
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 5:33 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] RedHat 5.2 to 5.4 upgrade causes problems for TSMscsi tape 
drivers

Greetings,
I have a customer running TSM 6.1.3.3 under RedHat Linux 5.2.  The
Library Master instance on this server has a HP ESL722 tape library with
LTO4 tape drives, and a HP VTL emulating a ESL tape library with LTO3
drives.  They are running the TSMscsi drivers to talk to the drives,
version TIVsm-tsmscsi-6.1.3-1.x86_64.  Any time they reboot the server,
they execute:

cd /opt/tivoli/tsm/devices/bin
./autoconf -a

which loads the tsmscsi driver and configures the drives.  This has been
working fine for months now.  The output is:

**
*   IBM TIVOLI STORAGE MANAGER   *
*   Autoconf Utility Program for Linux   *
**
Licensed Materials - Property of IBM
 
(C) Copyright IBM Corporation 2009. All rights reserved.
U.S. Government Users Restricted Rights - Use, duplication or disclosure
restricted by GSA ADP Schedule Contract with IBM Corporation.
 
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg35.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg36.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg37.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg38.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg39.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg40.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg41.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg42.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg43.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg44.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg45.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg46.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg47.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg48.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg49.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg50.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg51.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg52.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg53.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg54.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg55.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg56.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg57.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg58.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg59.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg60.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg61.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg62.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg63.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg64.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg65.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg66.
 
Tivoli Tape Drives:
===
Index Minor Host CHN ID  LUN Type Vendor_ID Device_Serial_Number  
Product_ID   Rev.
000   035   001  000 000 000 001  HPMXP09210N5   Ultrium
4-SCSI   H36W
001   036   001  000 001 000 001  HPHU18282JH5   Ultrium
4-SCSI   H36W
002   037   001  000 002 000 001  HPHU17340A0J   Ultrium
4-SCSI   H36W
003   038   001  000 003 000 001  HPMXP09210MC   Ultrium
4-SCSI   H36W
004   040   003  000 001 000 001  HPHU18494CGF   Ultrium
4-SCSI   H36W
005   041   003  000 002 000 001  HPMXP09190H5   Ultrium
4-SCSI   H36W
006   042   003  000 003 000 001  HPHU19024M8Y   Ultrium
4-SCSI   H36W
007   044   004  000 000 001 001  HP025qFkNO01   Ultrium
3-SCSI   R210
008   045   004  000 000 002 001  HP025qFkNO02   Ultrium
3-SCSI   R210
009   046   004  000 000 003 001  HP025qFkNO03   Ultrium
3-SCSI   R210
010   047   004  000 000 004 001  HP025qFkNO04   Ultrium
3-SCSI   R210
011   048   004  000 000 005 001  HP025qFkNO05   Ultrium
3-SCSI   R210
012   049   004  000 000 006 001  HP025qFkNO06   Ultrium
3-SCSI   R210
013   050   004  000 000 007 001  HP025qFkNO07   Ultrium
3-SCSI   R210
014   051   005  000 000 000 001  HPHU17430JKJ   Ultrium
4-SCSI   H36W
015   052   005  000 001 000 001  HPMXP09190H4   Ultrium
4-SCSI   H36W
016   053   005  000 002 000 001  HPHU18413JBJ   Ultrium
4-SCSI   H36W
017   054   005  000 003 000 001  HP

Re: RedHat 5.2 to 5.4 upgrade causes problems for TSMscsi tape drivers

2010-05-12 Thread John D. Schneider
Len,
Thanks for your reply.  No, we did not upgrade any of the TSM
software, including the tape drivers.  We were running the
TIVsm-tsmscsi-6.1.3-1.x86_64 version both before and after the RedHat
5.2 to 5.4 upgrade.
I have since found out that there is a 6.1.3-3 version of the
driver.  Since they are running the 6.1.3.3 version of TSM, they
probably should be running that version of the driver, too.  I don't
know why or why not, since that is before they became my customer.  The
previous TSM admins that set all this up are no longer working for this
company.
But I hesitate to recommend upgrading the drivers as a course of
action unless I can point to a concrete reason why.  I went through the
Release Notes and Readmes and could not find any hint of a driver
problem being addressed.  None of the tape driver APARs described since
6.1.3 in this Technote sound like they have anything to do with our
problem:

http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21320763

Any insight would be appreciated.

Best Regards,

John D. Schneider
The Computer Coaching Community, LLC
Office: (314) 635-5424 / Toll Free: (866) 796-9226
Cell: (314) 750-8721



 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] RedHat 5.2 to 5.4 upgrade causes problems for
TSMscsi tape drivers
From: Len Boyle len.bo...@sas.com
Date: Wed, May 12, 2010 8:53 pm
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU

Did you upgrade the tape drivers?

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of
John D. Schneider
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 5:33 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] RedHat 5.2 to 5.4 upgrade causes problems for TSMscsi
tape drivers

Greetings,
 I have a customer running TSM 6.1.3.3 under RedHat Linux 5.2. The
Library Master instance on this server has a HP ESL722 tape library with
LTO4 tape drives, and a HP VTL emulating a ESL tape library with LTO3
drives. They are running the TSMscsi drivers to talk to the drives,
version TIVsm-tsmscsi-6.1.3-1.x86_64. Any time they reboot the server,
they execute:

cd /opt/tivoli/tsm/devices/bin
./autoconf -a

which loads the tsmscsi driver and configures the drives. This has been
working fine for months now. The output is:

**
* IBM TIVOLI STORAGE MANAGER *
* Autoconf Utility Program for Linux *
**
Licensed Materials - Property of IBM
 
(C) Copyright IBM Corporation 2009. All rights reserved.
U.S. Government Users Restricted Rights - Use, duplication or disclosure
restricted by GSA ADP Schedule Contract with IBM Corporation.
 
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg35.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg36.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg37.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg38.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg39.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg40.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg41.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg42.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg43.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg44.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg45.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg46.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg47.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg48.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg49.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg50.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg51.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg52.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg53.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg54.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg55.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg56.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg57.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg58.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg59.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg60.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg61.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg62.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg63.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg64.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg65.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg66.
 
Tivoli Tape Drives:
===
Index Minor Host CHN ID LUN Type Vendor_ID Device_Serial_Number 
Product_ID Rev.
000 035 001 000 000 000 001 HP MXP09210N5 Ultrium
4-SCSI H36W
001 036 001 000 001 000 001 HP HU18282JH5 Ultrium
4-SCSI H36W
002 037 001 000 002 000 001 HP HU17340A0J Ultrium
4-SCSI 

Re: RedHat 5.2 to 5.4 upgrade causes problems for TSMscsi tape drivers

2010-05-12 Thread Len Boyle
Hello John, 

I have not used tsm on Linux, but I have used ibm tape drives on linux. I used 
the ibm lintape driver. These tape drives were fc based. I am not sure if your 
tape drives are fc based. I am also not sure if the lintape driver supports 
scsi tape drives.

I do have a tsm server running on windows and they recommended that we use the 
ibm tape drivers and not the tsm drivers for the newer tape drives. 

So I am doing a bit of guessing here.

Since the tape driver is the piece between the os and the hardware I would 
expect that be the first part that needs looking at. It might be a change in 
the o/s api used by the tape driver.  

With the lintape driver you can test out the tape drive without tsm running. Do 
you have another box that you can test out the different tape drivers and tape 
drives? 

I just looked at the lintape readme and it appears that it only is supported 
with IBM devices.

Does HP supply drivers for use with their tape drives and Linux?

You might want to call IBM service for tsm and see what they might suggest.

-
I remember seeing this note on a past adsm-l mailing list entry.

Re: Library unavailable
Michael Green
Mon, 06 Jul 2009 23:23:45 -0700

I don't know about 3583, but with 3584 one shouldn't use the TSM
supplied drivers. IBM provides a so called 'lintape' (ex IBMtape)
driver on their FTP.
--
len


-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of John 
D. Schneider
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 11:07 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] RedHat 5.2 to 5.4 upgrade causes problems for TSMscsi 
tape drivers

Len,
Thanks for your reply.  No, we did not upgrade any of the TSM
software, including the tape drivers.  We were running the
TIVsm-tsmscsi-6.1.3-1.x86_64 version both before and after the RedHat
5.2 to 5.4 upgrade.
I have since found out that there is a 6.1.3-3 version of the
driver.  Since they are running the 6.1.3.3 version of TSM, they
probably should be running that version of the driver, too.  I don't
know why or why not, since that is before they became my customer.  The
previous TSM admins that set all this up are no longer working for this
company.
But I hesitate to recommend upgrading the drivers as a course of
action unless I can point to a concrete reason why.  I went through the
Release Notes and Readmes and could not find any hint of a driver
problem being addressed.  None of the tape driver APARs described since
6.1.3 in this Technote sound like they have anything to do with our
problem:

http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21320763

Any insight would be appreciated.

Best Regards,

John D. Schneider
The Computer Coaching Community, LLC
Office: (314) 635-5424 / Toll Free: (866) 796-9226
Cell: (314) 750-8721



 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] RedHat 5.2 to 5.4 upgrade causes problems for
TSMscsi tape drivers
From: Len Boyle len.bo...@sas.com
Date: Wed, May 12, 2010 8:53 pm
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU

Did you upgrade the tape drivers?

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of
John D. Schneider
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 5:33 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] RedHat 5.2 to 5.4 upgrade causes problems for TSMscsi
tape drivers

Greetings,
 I have a customer running TSM 6.1.3.3 under RedHat Linux 5.2. The
Library Master instance on this server has a HP ESL722 tape library with
LTO4 tape drives, and a HP VTL emulating a ESL tape library with LTO3
drives. They are running the TSMscsi drivers to talk to the drives,
version TIVsm-tsmscsi-6.1.3-1.x86_64. Any time they reboot the server,
they execute:

cd /opt/tivoli/tsm/devices/bin
./autoconf -a

which loads the tsmscsi driver and configures the drives. This has been
working fine for months now. The output is:

**
* IBM TIVOLI STORAGE MANAGER *
* Autoconf Utility Program for Linux *
**
Licensed Materials - Property of IBM
 
(C) Copyright IBM Corporation 2009. All rights reserved.
U.S. Government Users Restricted Rights - Use, duplication or disclosure
restricted by GSA ADP Schedule Contract with IBM Corporation.
 
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg35.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg36.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg37.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg38.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg39.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg40.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg41.
Added the read and write permissions for all users to /dev/sg42.
Added the read and 

Re: RedHat 5.2 to 5.4 upgrade causes problems for TSMscsi tape drivers

2010-05-12 Thread John D. Schneider
Len,

   The IBMTape drivers are intended only for the IBM tape drives.  For
all others (such as the HP in my case), the TSM drivers are what TSM
wants us to use.  
   So I believe that we are using the right sort of driver, and it has
been working for some months; the problem only arose when we upgraded
RedHat from 5.2 to 5.4.  


Best Regards,

John D. Schneider
The Computer Coaching Community, LLC
Office: (314) 635-5424 / Toll Free: (866) 796-9226
Cell: (314) 750-8721



 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] RedHat 5.2 to 5.4 upgrade causes problems for
TSMscsi tape drivers
From: Len Boyle len.bo...@sas.com
Date: Wed, May 12, 2010 11:29 pm
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU

Hello John, 

I have not used tsm on Linux, but I have used ibm tape drives on linux.
I used the ibm lintape driver. These tape drives were fc based. I am not
sure if your tape drives are fc based. I am also not sure if the lintape
driver supports scsi tape drives.

I do have a tsm server running on windows and they recommended that we
use the ibm tape drivers and not the tsm drivers for the newer tape
drives. 

So I am doing a bit of guessing here.

Since the tape driver is the piece between the os and the hardware I
would expect that be the first part that needs looking at. It might be a
change in the o/s api used by the tape driver. 

With the lintape driver you can test out the tape drive without tsm
running. Do you have another box that you can test out the different
tape drivers and tape drives? 

I just looked at the lintape readme and it appears that it only is
supported with IBM devices.

Does HP supply drivers for use with their tape drives and Linux?

You might want to call IBM service for tsm and see what they might
suggest.

-
I remember seeing this note on a past adsm-l mailing list entry.

Re: Library unavailable
Michael Green
Mon, 06 Jul 2009 23:23:45 -0700

I don't know about 3583, but with 3584 one shouldn't use the TSM
supplied drivers. IBM provides a so called 'lintape' (ex IBMtape)
driver on their FTP.
--
len


-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of
John D. Schneider
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 11:07 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] RedHat 5.2 to 5.4 upgrade causes problems for
TSMscsi tape drivers

Len,
 Thanks for your reply. No, we did not upgrade any of the TSM
software, including the tape drivers. We were running the
TIVsm-tsmscsi-6.1.3-1.x86_64 version both before and after the RedHat
5.2 to 5.4 upgrade.
 I have since found out that there is a 6.1.3-3 version of the
driver. Since they are running the 6.1.3.3 version of TSM, they
probably should be running that version of the driver, too. I don't
know why or why not, since that is before they became my customer. The
previous TSM admins that set all this up are no longer working for this
company.
 But I hesitate to recommend upgrading the drivers as a course of
action unless I can point to a concrete reason why. I went through the
Release Notes and Readmes and could not find any hint of a driver
problem being addressed. None of the tape driver APARs described since
6.1.3 in this Technote sound like they have anything to do with our
problem:

http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21320763

Any insight would be appreciated.

Best Regards,

John D. Schneider
The Computer Coaching Community, LLC
Office: (314) 635-5424 / Toll Free: (866) 796-9226
Cell: (314) 750-8721



 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] RedHat 5.2 to 5.4 upgrade causes problems for
TSMscsi tape drivers
From: Len Boyle len.bo...@sas.com
Date: Wed, May 12, 2010 8:53 pm
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU

Did you upgrade the tape drivers?

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of
John D. Schneider
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 5:33 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] RedHat 5.2 to 5.4 upgrade causes problems for TSMscsi
tape drivers

Greetings,
 I have a customer running TSM 6.1.3.3 under RedHat Linux 5.2. The
Library Master instance on this server has a HP ESL722 tape library with
LTO4 tape drives, and a HP VTL emulating a ESL tape library with LTO3
drives. They are running the TSMscsi drivers to talk to the drives,
version TIVsm-tsmscsi-6.1.3-1.x86_64. Any time they reboot the server,
they execute:

cd /opt/tivoli/tsm/devices/bin
./autoconf -a

which loads the tsmscsi driver and configures the drives. This has been
working fine for months now. The output is:

**
* IBM TIVOLI STORAGE MANAGER *
* Autoconf Utility Program for Linux *
**
Licensed Materials - Property of IBM
 
(C) Copyright IBM Corporation 2009. All rights reserved.
U.S.