Re: volume missed in library

2010-06-10 Thread MALGHEM Julien
Hello William,

With this checkin command, the label was checked by reading it on the tape (not 
with the barcode). There is no reason to lose data if the tape is ok. 
You can check with the admin interface of the library if the barcode is 
correctly seen by the interface. 
If not, it's probably a problem with the barcode itself. So, you can change the 
label or move data to another tape if you wants to be sure the tape is readable.

Best regards,
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De : ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] De la part de 
William ZHANG
Envoyé : jeudi 10 juin 2010 03:51
À : ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Objet : Re: [ADSM-L] volume missed in library

And now I run command checkin libvol LIBNEO4000 search=bulk status=private
It seems that library recognize that missed volume:

LIBNEO4000   000456L3PrivateSHITSM01 132

But I am not sure that data on this volume can be get back,  any comment?

Thank you!

From: William ZHANG
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 9:26 AM
To: 'ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU'
Subject: volume missed in library

Hello All,

I made mistake:
My tape library overland neo4000 occurs a HW fail when move volume media.
And then I take this volume out of tape library (want to put it again) and run 
command audit  library LIBNEO4000 checklabel=barcode
Then , that missed volume disappeared from tape library using query libvol , 
I think there are important data in that volume.

So how can I put that volume into tape library again and do not make data 
missed ?  or can I do  audit volume vol_name fix=yes  to let TSM backup 
missed data again?
If there are archived data, is there any way to get them back?


Warm regards,
william


Re: TDP for SQL vs SQL dumps

2010-06-10 Thread Tyree, David
The DBAs claim they can configure the SQL boxes to send an email with
the success/failure of each db dump. 

As long as somebody actually monitors the emails..

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Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TDP for SQL vs SQL dumps

That works fine.
Upside:  No TDP for SQL license required
Downside:  
You (the TSM admin) get no notification if those dumps fail (or
accidentally get turned off). 

I went into a new TSM customer last year and we found 7 out of 12 SQL
servers that were supposedly backing up to disk had somehow gotten the
backups turned off...


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Subject: [ADSM-L] TDP for SQL vs SQL dumps


I was talking about backups with a couple of our DBAs
and they mentioned using SQL scripts on the server to export the
database and then use the regular TSM client to backup the exported file
instead of using the TDP. 

They suggested building a server with a bunch of shares,
one share for each of our SQL servers. Then go into each of the SQL
servers and set up a script that dumps the database to share that was
created for it. The dump location would have the regular TSM client
running to catch all the incoming SQL files. 

The DBAs did some db dumps and also some log dumps as
well and were able to restore them back into the server and they seemed
happy with the process. 

Is there anything I'm missing here? It seems like a
reasonable idea to me. 

 

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upgrade to 6.2

2010-06-10 Thread Hana Darzi
Hello all
When upgrading from 6.1.3 to 6.2 windows 64X server
I ask a user name and password for instance db2 service.
I use the ‘Local System Account’  .
This account have no password how I can go on with the upgrade
Without giving password during installation
Thank you, Hana



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Re: upgrade to 6.2

2010-06-10 Thread Remco Post
the DB2 instance owner user must not be system, and it must have a password.

I guess you're screwed.

On 10 jun 2010, at 14:25, Hana Darzi wrote:

 Hello all
 When upgrading from 6.1.3 to 6.2 windows 64X server
 I ask a user name and password for instance db2 service.
 I use the ‘Local System Account’  .
 This account have no password how I can go on with the upgrade
 Without giving password during installation
 Thank you, Hana
 
 
 
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 Email: ha...@bgu.ac.ilmailto:ha...@bgu.ac.il
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TSM v6.2.1 install - /opt space

2010-06-10 Thread Cowen, Richard
TSM v5.3, TSM v6.2.1

 

During the install/upgrade, I got these messages:

 

Warning!

 

This installation requires 1,733.08 MB of free disk space, but there are
only

1,207.32 MB available at:

 

   /opt/tivoli/tsm

 

Please free at least 525.76 MB to proceed with the installation.

 

PRESS ENTER TO RECALCULATE AVAILABLE DISK SPACE,

  OR TYPE 'QUIT' TO EXIT THE INSTALLER:

 

 

I added the space to /opt, and continued okay.

 

There is now enough disk space to proceed with the installation.

 

The upgrade seemed to want another 1.7 GB to install, about the size of
the pkg itself.

 

-rwxr-xr-x1 root system   1839742728 Jun 04 16:17
6.2.1.0-TIV-TSMALL-AIX.bin*

 

At any rate, the manual says:

 

Fix any errors before continuing. The installation log,
installFixPack.log, is stored

in the following location:

coi/plan/tmp

 

I don't find that filename anywhere, although there are a lot of logs
under /opt/tivoli/tsm/_uninst.


This new space check is probably a fix for apar  IC66870: OUT OF SPACE
MESSAGE DURING SERVER FIXPACK INSTALL.


But does it really require another 1.7 GB?


After the upgrade, I show:


root[aix:/tsm2/download/tsmv621]# df -vk


Filesystem1024-blocks  Used  Free %UsedIusedIfree
%Iused Mounted on


/dev/hd4   557056122932434124   23% 5725   272803
3% /


/dev/hd2  5537792   2127856   3409936   39%39044  1345404
3% /usr


/dev/hd9var   1081344138316943028   13% 4714   265622
2% /var


/dev/hd3  1671168765660905508   46% 4879   412913
2% /tmp


/dev/hd1  3178496101344   30771524%   27   794597
1% /home


/proc   - - -- --
-  /proc


/dev/hd10opt  3801088   2036540   1764548   54%13469   936803
2% /opt


 


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Win Server 2008 question

2010-06-10 Thread Fred Johanson
One of the Windoze admins was holding forth, loudly, about a feature of 
WinServer2008, a folder called winsxs, window side by side, which metastasizes 
rapidly across the /WINDOWS directory.  He says it can't be removed.  If he's 
worried, I'm worried about how much extra storage I'm putting on TSM.

Any one know anything about this and how to avoid its effects?


Fred Johanson
TSM Administrator
University of Chicago

773-702-8464


Re: Win Server 2008 question

2010-06-10 Thread Evans, Bill
Exclude.dir C:\WINDOWS

No way to control what windows wants to put in their system directories.
We just reinstall windows from CD/DVD and then restore user data.

Thanks,
  --Bill


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Fred Johanson
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 11:30 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] Win Server 2008 question

One of the Windoze admins was holding forth, loudly, about a feature of
WinServer2008, a folder called winsxs, window side by side, which
metastasizes rapidly across the /WINDOWS directory.  He says it can't be
removed.  If he's worried, I'm worried about how much extra storage I'm
putting on TSM.

Any one know anything about this and how to avoid its effects?


Fred Johanson
TSM Administrator
University of Chicago

773-702-8464


Re: Win Server 2008 question

2010-06-10 Thread Andrew Raibeck
 Any one know anything about this ...

Microsoft's solution to DLL-hell. You can check with Microsoft on this,
or consult a non-authoritative source such as Wikipedia.

 ... and how to avoid its effects?

a) Hardware deduplication in your TSM server storage.

b) TSM deduplication (6.1 and up for server-side, 6.2 for client-side)

c) Progressive incremental backup of the system state's System Writer
component (TSM 6.2 client, compatible with TSM version 5.5 and 6.1 servers)

(a), (b) and (c) help reduce TSM server storage requirements.

(c) also helps reduce impact to the TSM server database.

Best regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development
Level 3 Team Lead
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Hartford/i...@ibmus
Internet e-mail: stor...@us.ibm.com

IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page:
http://www.ibm.com/support/entry/portal/Overview/Software/Tivoli/Tivoli_Storage_Manager


The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
Good enough is the enemy of excellence.

ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu wrote on 2010-06-10
14:29:57:

 From: Fred Johanson f...@uchicago.edu
 To: ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu
 Date: 2010-06-10 14:33
 Subject: Win Server 2008 question
 Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu

 One of the Windoze admins was holding forth, loudly, about a feature
 of WinServer2008, a folder called winsxs, window side by side, which
 metastasizes rapidly across the /WINDOWS directory.  He says it
 can't be removed.  If he's worried, I'm worried about how much extra
 storage I'm putting on TSM.

 Any one know anything about this and how to avoid its effects?


 Fred Johanson
 TSM Administrator
 University of Chicago

 773-702-8464


Re: Celerra NDMP

2010-06-10 Thread Shawn Drew
Chapter 7 in the Administrator's Guide
Using NDMP for Operations with NAS File Servers

http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/tivihelp/v1r1/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.itsmaixn.doc/anragd55172.htm


The redbook is also helpfull although it is geared towards Netapp.  From
what I understand, Celerra configuration is very similar
http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247243.html?Open


Regards,
Shawn

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Hi, folks.

I'm in the happy state of needing to attempt some NDMP backups.
Remember that 12TB FS conversation we had a while back?  Well boy
howdy, someone has just presented me with one.  We're failing to
complete backups in any reasonable timeframe.

I intend to continue experimenting with The Right Way, but I need a
stopgap, and it looks like NDMP is it.


But I'm having difficulty deciphering some of the instructions: they
talk about telling the DataMover the controller, ID, and lun.  I may
be dense, but I'm accustomed to using rmt devices or WWNs.

Anybody got a pointer to the Fine Manual ?  The logs of this list
include a tantalizing reference to success after reading between the
lines a little bit; but I was unable to find anything concrete.


I'm on  Version 5, Release 5, Level 3.0 of TSM, in case it matters.



- Allen S. Rout



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Re: Celerra NDMP

2010-06-10 Thread Remco Post
Hi Allen,

there are about 3 pages on NDMP in the TSM admin guide, and that's all there is 
to it. I learned today that if you want TOCs, that you must have the same 
language setting on the TSM server as on the filer.

When you map tape drives to your filer, and the EMC boys do their thing to 
detect them, they become known as mt devices on those boxes. If you're lucky, 
or they're good, they make sure that each tape drive has the same name on each 
filer. Ow, btw, and a filer = a datamover. 

On 10 jun 2010, at 23:05, Allen S. Rout wrote:

 Hi, folks.
 
 I'm in the happy state of needing to attempt some NDMP backups.
 Remember that 12TB FS conversation we had a while back?  Well boy
 howdy, someone has just presented me with one.  We're failing to
 complete backups in any reasonable timeframe.
 
 I intend to continue experimenting with The Right Way, but I need a
 stopgap, and it looks like NDMP is it.
 
 
 But I'm having difficulty deciphering some of the instructions: they
 talk about telling the DataMover the controller, ID, and lun.  I may
 be dense, but I'm accustomed to using rmt devices or WWNs.
 
 Anybody got a pointer to the Fine Manual ?  The logs of this list
 include a tantalizing reference to success after reading between the
 lines a little bit; but I was unable to find anything concrete.
 
 
 I'm on  Version 5, Release 5, Level 3.0 of TSM, in case it matters.
 
 
 
 - Allen S. Rout

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Remco Post
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Re: Win Server 2008 question

2010-06-10 Thread Prather, Wanda
Oh Excellent!  Thanks!

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Andrew Raibeck
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 4:38 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Win Server 2008 question

It applies to all supported OSes that use the backup systemstate
command:
Windows 2003 (base and R2), Windows Vista, Windows 2008 (base and
R2)
and Windows 7.

Best regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development
Level 3 Team Lead
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Hartford/i...@ibmus
Internet e-mail: stor...@us.ibm.com

IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page:
http://www.ibm.com/support/entry/portal/Overview/Software/Tivoli/Tivoli_
Storage_Manager


The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
Good enough is the enemy of excellence.

ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu wrote on 2010-06-10
16:35:05:

 From: Prather, Wanda wprat...@icfi.com
 To: ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu
 Date: 2010-06-10 16:36
 Subject: Re: Win Server 2008 question
 Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu

 Andy:
 Can you please clarify, does the 6.2 client progressive incremental
for
 system state only work on Win2K8, or does it also work on Win2K3?

 Thanks!
 Wanda

 -Original Message-
 From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf
Of
 Andrew Raibeck
 Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 3:52 PM
 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
 Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Win Server 2008 question

  Any one know anything about this ...

 Microsoft's solution to DLL-hell. You can check with Microsoft on
 this,
 or consult a non-authoritative source such as Wikipedia.

  ... and how to avoid its effects?

 a) Hardware deduplication in your TSM server storage.

 b) TSM deduplication (6.1 and up for server-side, 6.2 for client-side)

 c) Progressive incremental backup of the system state's System Writer
 component (TSM 6.2 client, compatible with TSM version 5.5 and 6.1
 servers)

 (a), (b) and (c) help reduce TSM server storage requirements.

 (c) also helps reduce impact to the TSM server database.

 Best regards,

 Andy

 Andy Raibeck
 IBM Software Group
 Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development
 Level 3 Team Lead
 Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Hartford/i...@ibmus
 Internet e-mail: stor...@us.ibm.com

 IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page:

http://www.ibm.com/support/entry/portal/Overview/Software/Tivoli/Tivoli_
 Storage_Manager


 The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
 The command line is your friend.
 Good enough is the enemy of excellence.

 ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu wrote on 2010-06-10
 14:29:57:

  From: Fred Johanson f...@uchicago.edu
  To: ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu
  Date: 2010-06-10 14:33
  Subject: Win Server 2008 question
  Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu
 
  One of the Windoze admins was holding forth, loudly, about a feature
  of WinServer2008, a folder called winsxs, window side by side, which
  metastasizes rapidly across the /WINDOWS directory.  He says it
  can't be removed.  If he's worried, I'm worried about how much extra
  storage I'm putting on TSM.
 
  Any one know anything about this and how to avoid its effects?
 
 
  Fred Johanson
  TSM Administrator
  University of Chicago
 
  773-702-8464


Celerra NDMP

2010-06-10 Thread Allen S. Rout
Hi, folks.

I'm in the happy state of needing to attempt some NDMP backups.
Remember that 12TB FS conversation we had a while back?  Well boy
howdy, someone has just presented me with one.  We're failing to
complete backups in any reasonable timeframe.

I intend to continue experimenting with The Right Way, but I need a
stopgap, and it looks like NDMP is it.


But I'm having difficulty deciphering some of the instructions: they
talk about telling the DataMover the controller, ID, and lun.  I may
be dense, but I'm accustomed to using rmt devices or WWNs.

Anybody got a pointer to the Fine Manual ?  The logs of this list
include a tantalizing reference to success after reading between the
lines a little bit; but I was unable to find anything concrete.


I'm on  Version 5, Release 5, Level 3.0 of TSM, in case it matters.



- Allen S. Rout


Re: Win Server 2008 question

2010-06-10 Thread Andrew Raibeck
It applies to all supported OSes that use the backup systemstate command:
Windows 2003 (base and R2), Windows Vista, Windows 2008 (base and R2)
and Windows 7.

Best regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development
Level 3 Team Lead
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Hartford/i...@ibmus
Internet e-mail: stor...@us.ibm.com

IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page:
http://www.ibm.com/support/entry/portal/Overview/Software/Tivoli/Tivoli_Storage_Manager


The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
Good enough is the enemy of excellence.

ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu wrote on 2010-06-10
16:35:05:

 From: Prather, Wanda wprat...@icfi.com
 To: ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu
 Date: 2010-06-10 16:36
 Subject: Re: Win Server 2008 question
 Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu

 Andy:
 Can you please clarify, does the 6.2 client progressive incremental for
 system state only work on Win2K8, or does it also work on Win2K3?

 Thanks!
 Wanda

 -Original Message-
 From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of
 Andrew Raibeck
 Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 3:52 PM
 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
 Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Win Server 2008 question

  Any one know anything about this ...

 Microsoft's solution to DLL-hell. You can check with Microsoft on
 this,
 or consult a non-authoritative source such as Wikipedia.

  ... and how to avoid its effects?

 a) Hardware deduplication in your TSM server storage.

 b) TSM deduplication (6.1 and up for server-side, 6.2 for client-side)

 c) Progressive incremental backup of the system state's System Writer
 component (TSM 6.2 client, compatible with TSM version 5.5 and 6.1
 servers)

 (a), (b) and (c) help reduce TSM server storage requirements.

 (c) also helps reduce impact to the TSM server database.

 Best regards,

 Andy

 Andy Raibeck
 IBM Software Group
 Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development
 Level 3 Team Lead
 Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Hartford/i...@ibmus
 Internet e-mail: stor...@us.ibm.com

 IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page:
 http://www.ibm.com/support/entry/portal/Overview/Software/Tivoli/Tivoli_
 Storage_Manager


 The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
 The command line is your friend.
 Good enough is the enemy of excellence.

 ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu wrote on 2010-06-10
 14:29:57:

  From: Fred Johanson f...@uchicago.edu
  To: ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu
  Date: 2010-06-10 14:33
  Subject: Win Server 2008 question
  Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu
 
  One of the Windoze admins was holding forth, loudly, about a feature
  of WinServer2008, a folder called winsxs, window side by side, which
  metastasizes rapidly across the /WINDOWS directory.  He says it
  can't be removed.  If he's worried, I'm worried about how much extra
  storage I'm putting on TSM.
 
  Any one know anything about this and how to avoid its effects?
 
 
  Fred Johanson
  TSM Administrator
  University of Chicago
 
  773-702-8464


Re: Celerra NDMP

2010-06-10 Thread Huebner,Andy,FORT WORTH,IT
The devices on our Celerra look like this:
c32t0l0
Notice the L in the middle of the zeros?
The short story:
1. Zone the Celerra to the tape drive(s).
2. through the magic of Celerra commands discover the tape drives and note 
their names.
a. server_devconfig server_2 -create -scsi -nondisks
b. server_devconfig server_2 -probe -scsi -nondisks
c. server_devconfig server_2 -list -scsi -nondisks
3. Using one of the previously mentioned IBM docs setup and create the NAS 
devices and pools.

We run 16TB to two 3592's and run 36 hours.  You did not say what reasonable 
was.

Andy Huebner


-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Allen 
S. Rout
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 4:05 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] Celerra NDMP

Hi, folks.

I'm in the happy state of needing to attempt some NDMP backups.
Remember that 12TB FS conversation we had a while back?  Well boy
howdy, someone has just presented me with one.  We're failing to
complete backups in any reasonable timeframe.

I intend to continue experimenting with The Right Way, but I need a
stopgap, and it looks like NDMP is it.


But I'm having difficulty deciphering some of the instructions: they
talk about telling the DataMover the controller, ID, and lun.  I may
be dense, but I'm accustomed to using rmt devices or WWNs.

Anybody got a pointer to the Fine Manual ?  The logs of this list
include a tantalizing reference to success after reading between the
lines a little bit; but I was unable to find anything concrete.


I'm on  Version 5, Release 5, Level 3.0 of TSM, in case it matters.



- Allen S. Rout

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Re: Celerra NDMP

2010-06-10 Thread Prather, Wanda
Hi Alan.
Chap 7 of the Admin Guide is the best doc I've found. 

First off, are you going to send the data via TCP/IP and have it land in
a regular storage pool, or attach a tape drive directly to your Celerra
via your SAN?  You will find in Chap 7 that those are two very different
scenarios.

If the latter, then yes, you have to log into the Celerra and find out
what IT thinks its device name is, after you get the tape drive
attached.  

If you are doing NDMP dumps across the SAN, all the TSM server is doing
is sending a Go forth and run NDMP command to the Celerra.  The
Celerra is doing everything else, so it has to know how to find the
drive.  

If the doc doesn't help you, feel free to contact me directly, I'll try
to dredge up my notes.

W


-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of
Allen S. Rout
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 5:05 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] Celerra NDMP

Hi, folks.

I'm in the happy state of needing to attempt some NDMP backups.
Remember that 12TB FS conversation we had a while back?  Well boy
howdy, someone has just presented me with one.  We're failing to
complete backups in any reasonable timeframe.

I intend to continue experimenting with The Right Way, but I need a
stopgap, and it looks like NDMP is it.


But I'm having difficulty deciphering some of the instructions: they
talk about telling the DataMover the controller, ID, and lun.  I may
be dense, but I'm accustomed to using rmt devices or WWNs.

Anybody got a pointer to the Fine Manual ?  The logs of this list
include a tantalizing reference to success after reading between the
lines a little bit; but I was unable to find anything concrete.


I'm on  Version 5, Release 5, Level 3.0 of TSM, in case it matters.



- Allen S. Rout


Re: Win Server 2008 question

2010-06-10 Thread Prather, Wanda
Andy:
Can you please clarify, does the 6.2 client progressive incremental for
system state only work on Win2K8, or does it also work on Win2K3?

Thanks!
Wanda

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of
Andrew Raibeck
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 3:52 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Win Server 2008 question

 Any one know anything about this ...

Microsoft's solution to DLL-hell. You can check with Microsoft on
this,
or consult a non-authoritative source such as Wikipedia.

 ... and how to avoid its effects?

a) Hardware deduplication in your TSM server storage.

b) TSM deduplication (6.1 and up for server-side, 6.2 for client-side)

c) Progressive incremental backup of the system state's System Writer
component (TSM 6.2 client, compatible with TSM version 5.5 and 6.1
servers)

(a), (b) and (c) help reduce TSM server storage requirements.

(c) also helps reduce impact to the TSM server database.

Best regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development
Level 3 Team Lead
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Hartford/i...@ibmus
Internet e-mail: stor...@us.ibm.com

IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page:
http://www.ibm.com/support/entry/portal/Overview/Software/Tivoli/Tivoli_
Storage_Manager


The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
Good enough is the enemy of excellence.

ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu wrote on 2010-06-10
14:29:57:

 From: Fred Johanson f...@uchicago.edu
 To: ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu
 Date: 2010-06-10 14:33
 Subject: Win Server 2008 question
 Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu

 One of the Windoze admins was holding forth, loudly, about a feature
 of WinServer2008, a folder called winsxs, window side by side, which
 metastasizes rapidly across the /WINDOWS directory.  He says it
 can't be removed.  If he's worried, I'm worried about how much extra
 storage I'm putting on TSM.

 Any one know anything about this and how to avoid its effects?


 Fred Johanson
 TSM Administrator
 University of Chicago

 773-702-8464


Re: Celerra NDMP

2010-06-10 Thread Gee, Norman
IBM - Tivoli Storage Manager: Overview, setup, and usage of NDMP ... 
AIX, HP-UX, Linux, Solaris, Windows. Software version: All Versions.
Reference # : 7010609. IBM Group: Software Group. Modified date:
2007-12-20  
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg27010609 


EMC Power link
Home  Support  Technical Documentation and Advisories 
Hardware/Platforms Documentation  Celerra Network Server 
Maintenance/Administration

Configuring NDMP Backups on Celerra  
This document is part of the Celerra Network Server documentation set
and is intended for the backup system administrator implementing a
backup strategy with one or more Celerra Network Servers. The system
administrator should be familiar with backup and restore operations and
with the basic administration of a Celerra Network Server.  

Zone one tape drive to the Celerra  at a time.


-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of
Huebner,Andy,FORT WORTH,IT
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 3:06 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Celerra NDMP

The devices on our Celerra look like this:
c32t0l0
Notice the L in the middle of the zeros?
The short story:
1. Zone the Celerra to the tape drive(s).
2. through the magic of Celerra commands discover the tape drives and
note their names.
a. server_devconfig server_2 -create -scsi -nondisks
b. server_devconfig server_2 -probe -scsi -nondisks
c. server_devconfig server_2 -list -scsi -nondisks
3. Using one of the previously mentioned IBM docs setup and create the
NAS devices and pools.

We run 16TB to two 3592's and run 36 hours.  You did not say what
reasonable was.

Andy Huebner


-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of
Allen S. Rout
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 4:05 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] Celerra NDMP

Hi, folks.

I'm in the happy state of needing to attempt some NDMP backups.
Remember that 12TB FS conversation we had a while back?  Well boy
howdy, someone has just presented me with one.  We're failing to
complete backups in any reasonable timeframe.

I intend to continue experimenting with The Right Way, but I need a
stopgap, and it looks like NDMP is it.


But I'm having difficulty deciphering some of the instructions: they
talk about telling the DataMover the controller, ID, and lun.  I may
be dense, but I'm accustomed to using rmt devices or WWNs.

Anybody got a pointer to the Fine Manual ?  The logs of this list
include a tantalizing reference to success after reading between the
lines a little bit; but I was unable to find anything concrete.


I'm on  Version 5, Release 5, Level 3.0 of TSM, in case it matters.



- Allen S. Rout

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Re: Win Server 2008 question

2010-06-10 Thread Xav Paice
- Andrew Raibeck stor...@us.ibm.com wrote:


  Any one know anything about this ...

  ... and how to avoid its effects?

 a) Hardware deduplication in your TSM server storage.

 b) TSM deduplication (6.1 and up for server-side, 6.2 for
 client-side)

 c) Progressive incremental backup of the system state's System Writer
 component (TSM 6.2 client, compatible with TSM version 5.5 and 6.1
 servers)

 (a), (b) and (c) help reduce TSM server storage requirements.

 (c) also helps reduce impact to the TSM server database.

 Best regards,

 Andy

Just a side note to Andy's comment - if I understand it correctly, the dedup in 
TSM works with file pools only.  Regrettably that means there's no saving in 
tape slots, TSM database size, copy pool tapes, etc., but it does allow a heap 
more data to be stored within a file pool, and with the features in 6.2 this 
can be realized immediately rather than only after processing.

Hardware dedup - e.g. ProtecTIER - is a more complete way to save on TSM 
storage, but comes at a cost which may or may not be justified by the savings 
in space alone.

What's the impact on restoring the system state when using (c) above?  I'm 
guessing eventually it means more tape mounts unless there's some pretty 
aggressive collocation going on.