Re: TDp and retention settings question

2011-04-11 Thread Del Hoobler
You state Data Protection for SQL is the tdp you are referring to.
Data Protection for SQL backups are automatically managed.
You do not need to manually manage them.
If you run a full backup, it will expire all previous full, log,
and differential backups. At that point, according to your
settings, RETEXTRA and RETONLY settings will then manage
the lifetime of those backups.

Are all of the backups FULL backups?
Is it possible that you are running some out of band backups,
thus creating more than one backup per day on some days?
Are any of the backups  30 days?

If you cannot figure this one out, open a PMR with IBM support.
They can take a close look at your environment and find out
what is going on.

Thanks,

Del



ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu wrote on 04/06/2011
03:59:36 PM:

 From: js1000 tsm-fo...@backupcentral.com
 To: ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu
 Date: 04/06/2011 04:08 PM
 Subject: TDp and retention settings question
 Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu

 The posting doesn't specify which TDP, which would help understanding.

 TDP for sql with a variety of different versions depending on which
server

 Which means that to TSM they are all active backups and TSM will
 therefore not expire them. They have to be expired/deleted from the TDP
 side, e.g. rman for oracle.

 is that the case? tdp manages the inactivating of the prior full on
 the TSM side? so this can be related to be akin to similar to a
 file backup where once the file is deleted (or marked inactive by
 TDP) the backup falls under the 30 day expiration window.


Trying to install lin_tape

2011-04-11 Thread Lee, Gary D.
Anyone out there solved how to install the lin_tape padckage on redhat 
enterprise linux 6?

Apparently, rebuild is not supported in their implementation of rpm.

I've been looking at the rpm man page, but the light hasn't come on yet.
Any pointers at this time would be helpful.


Gary Lee
Senior System Programmer
Ball State University
phone: 765-285-1310

 

reclamation question

2011-04-11 Thread Tyree, David
We have three storage pools, the primary pool is a devtype FILE 
and the two copy pools are devtype LTO3. The offsite copy pools gets 
transferred offsite via DRM.
Whenever I run a reclamation on the offsite copy pool the 
system grabs a scratch tape and then copies files from the primary pool and 
starts filling up tapes. I'm perfectly happy with that process.
I have an issue when I do the reclamation of onsite tapes. It 
loads up a tape (might be scratch) and then another tape to copy the data from. 
It ends up doing a tape to tape copy. In a way it uses twice as many tape 
mounts as an offsite reclamation. And since I only have 6 drives it kinda 
cramps up my options sometimes.
Is there a way to do a reclamation of the onsite copy pool and 
have it pull data from the primary pool instead of doing a tape to tape copy? I 
mean it can do it for the offsite pool, why not the onsite as well?


David Tyree
Interface Analyst
South Georgia Medical Center
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Re: reclamation question

2011-04-11 Thread Lee, Gary D.
About the only way I can think of to do this is to mark the onsite copy pool 
volumes as unavailable.  This would force data to be pulled from the primary 
file pool.

The reason it does this for the offsite pool, is that offsite volumes are 
presumed to be unavailable, thus data must be pulled from the primary source.
Hope this helps.
 


Gary Lee
Senior System Programmer
Ball State University
phone: 765-285-1310

 
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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Tyree, 
David
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 12:54 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] reclamation question

We have three storage pools, the primary pool is a devtype FILE 
and the two copy pools are devtype LTO3. The offsite copy pools gets 
transferred offsite via DRM.
Whenever I run a reclamation on the offsite copy pool the 
system grabs a scratch tape and then copies files from the primary pool and 
starts filling up tapes. I'm perfectly happy with that process.
I have an issue when I do the reclamation of onsite tapes. It 
loads up a tape (might be scratch) and then another tape to copy the data from. 
It ends up doing a tape to tape copy. In a way it uses twice as many tape 
mounts as an offsite reclamation. And since I only have 6 drives it kinda 
cramps up my options sometimes.
Is there a way to do a reclamation of the onsite copy pool and 
have it pull data from the primary pool instead of doing a tape to tape copy? I 
mean it can do it for the offsite pool, why not the onsite as well?


David Tyree
Interface Analyst
South Georgia Medical Center
229.333.1155
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Re: reclamation question

2011-04-11 Thread Prather, Wanda
Or just mark them offsite, even though they are still in the library.
You could create a script that does update vol * wherestgpool=onsitecopy 
access=offsite before you start reclamation, then reverse it when reclamation 
finishes.

W

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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Lee, 
Gary D.
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 1:26 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] reclamation question

About the only way I can think of to do this is to mark the onsite copy pool 
volumes as unavailable.  This would force data to be pulled from the primary 
file pool.

The reason it does this for the offsite pool, is that offsite volumes are 
presumed to be unavailable, thus data must be pulled from the primary source.
Hope this helps.
 


Gary Lee
Senior System Programmer
Ball State University
phone: 765-285-1310

 
-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Tyree, 
David
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 12:54 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] reclamation question

We have three storage pools, the primary pool is a devtype FILE 
and the two copy pools are devtype LTO3. The offsite copy pools gets 
transferred offsite via DRM.
Whenever I run a reclamation on the offsite copy pool the 
system grabs a scratch tape and then copies files from the primary pool and 
starts filling up tapes. I'm perfectly happy with that process.
I have an issue when I do the reclamation of onsite tapes. It 
loads up a tape (might be scratch) and then another tape to copy the data from. 
It ends up doing a tape to tape copy. In a way it uses twice as many tape 
mounts as an offsite reclamation. And since I only have 6 drives it kinda 
cramps up my options sometimes.
Is there a way to do a reclamation of the onsite copy pool and 
have it pull data from the primary pool instead of doing a tape to tape copy? I 
mean it can do it for the offsite pool, why not the onsite as well?


David Tyree
Interface Analyst
South Georgia Medical Center
229.333.1155
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Ang: reclamation question

2011-04-11 Thread Daniel Sparrman
As the previous 2 mentioned, if the tape is available, TSM will use it. If it's 
offsite, TSM will try to collect the data from primary volumes. So your issue 
is that the copypool tapes are actually available. It's kinda weird you get 
them reclaimed though, they should have been moved offsite long before reclaim 
is needed. Are you storing large database/mail/other application backups on 
them which expire regularly?

Best Regards

Daniel Sparrman

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Datum: 04/11/2011 18:53
Ärende: reclamation question

We have three storage pools, the primary pool is a devtype FILE 
and the two copy pools are devtype LTO3. The offsite copy pools gets 
transferred offsite via DRM.
Whenever I run a reclamation on the offsite copy pool the 
system grabs a scratch tape and then copies files from the primary pool and 
starts filling up tapes. I'm perfectly happy with that process.
I have an issue when I do the reclamation of onsite tapes. It 
loads up a tape (might be scratch) and then another tape to copy the data from. 
It ends up doing a tape to tape copy. In a way it uses twice as many tape 
mounts as an offsite reclamation. And since I only have 6 drives it kinda 
cramps up my options sometimes.
Is there a way to do a reclamation of the onsite copy pool and 
have it pull data from the primary pool instead of doing a tape to tape copy? I 
mean it can do it for the offsite pool, why not the onsite as well?


David Tyree
Interface Analyst
South Georgia Medical Center
229.333.1155
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Ang: Trying to install lin_tape

2011-04-11 Thread Daniel Sparrman
Which version are you running? You should have full support from 1.49. 

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Från: Lee, Gary D. g...@bsu.edu
Sänt av: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Datum: 04/11/2011 18:58
Ärende: Trying to install lin_tape

Anyone out there solved how to install the lin_tape padckage on redhat 
enterprise linux 6?

Apparently, rebuild is not supported in their implementation of rpm.

I've been looking at the rpm man page, but the light hasn't come on yet.
Any pointers at this time would be helpful.


Gary Lee
Senior System Programmer
Ball State University
phone: 765-285-1310

 

Re: reclamation question

2011-04-11 Thread Richard Sims
A more draconian method (not recommended) is to perform a Delete Volume for the 
copy storage pool volumes you would reclaim, where their former content would 
be freshly written to tape in the next Backup Stgpool.  That leaves you with 
one less copy of the data, of course, so not the best approach.

The reclamation of offsite copy pool tapes can put a drag on your TSM server, 
as the processing involves inventorying the files on the offsite tape to be 
reclaimed, then identifying the onsite tapes containing the files, and compile 
that into a list ordered so as to minimize mounts and repositioning.  That can 
be a lot of database work, which can be observable as reclamation processing 
seems to pause for a time.

Where realistic, I like to bring a batch of offsite tapes back onsite, check 
them all in at once, then start reclaiming, where the span-from and span-to 
companion volumes are thus likely to be mountable, preventing the process from 
having to revert to primary pool tapes for the duration of the volume reclaim 
because of the spanning.  (It continues using the surrogate primary pool 
volume(s) even after having gotten past a span into the volume being reclaimed, 
where such processing can result in a bunch of primary pool tape mounts and 
think time between each, resulting in a reclaim which can run about 8x slower 
than a straight reclaim.)  You can spot check for spanning by performing Query 
Content Volser F=D Count=1 for a span-into condition, and Query Content 
Volser F=D Count=-1 for span-out-of.

To assess process progress, I employ a macro called 'processes', whose contents 
are:

SELECT Char(PROCESS_NUM,6) as Number, PROCESS as   Process  , -
 Left(Char(START_TIME),19) as Start Time , -
 FILES_PROCESSED as   Files  , Char(BYTES_PROCESSED,14) as   Bytes  , -
 STATUS as   StatusFROM PROCESSES

This is more useful than Query PRocess in that you can directly see how much 
data has been checkpoint committed, not just how much has been physically 
operated upon thus far.

Richard Sims   http://people.bu.edu/rbs/ADSM.QuickFacts


Re: reclamation question

2011-04-11 Thread Paul Zarnowski
This is close to what we do, but we add stat=full to narrow it down better.

At 01:38 PM 4/11/2011, Prather, Wanda wrote:
Or just mark them offsite, even though they are still in the library.
You could create a script that does update vol * wherestgpool=onsitecopy 
access=offsite before you start reclamation, then reverse it when reclamation 
finishes.

W

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Lee, 
Gary D.
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 1:26 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] reclamation question

About the only way I can think of to do this is to mark the onsite copy pool 
volumes as unavailable.  This would force data to be pulled from the primary 
file pool.

The reason it does this for the offsite pool, is that offsite volumes are 
presumed to be unavailable, thus data must be pulled from the primary source.
Hope this helps.



Gary Lee
Senior System Programmer
Ball State University
phone: 765-285-1310


-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of 
Tyree, David
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 12:54 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] reclamation question

We have three storage pools, the primary pool is a devtype 
 FILE and the two copy pools are devtype LTO3. The offsite copy pools gets 
 transferred offsite via DRM.
Whenever I run a reclamation on the offsite copy pool the 
 system grabs a scratch tape and then copies files from the primary pool and 
 starts filling up tapes. I'm perfectly happy with that process.
I have an issue when I do the reclamation of onsite tapes. It 
 loads up a tape (might be scratch) and then another tape to copy the data 
 from. It ends up doing a tape to tape copy. In a way it uses twice as many 
 tape mounts as an offsite reclamation. And since I only have 6 drives it 
 kinda cramps up my options sometimes.
Is there a way to do a reclamation of the onsite copy pool and 
 have it pull data from the primary pool instead of doing a tape to tape copy? 
 I mean it can do it for the offsite pool, why not the onsite as well?


David Tyree
Interface Analyst
South Georgia Medical Center
229.333.1155
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BACKUP DB DB08C000 lvmread.c(1245): Memory allocation failed: object Resync read page buffer, size 4096

2011-04-11 Thread Josh Davis
I ran into an odd issue, and it took me a while to figure out the
cause.  I'm posting this because I found very few hits about
lvmread.c, and none matched.  Most gave info about memory consumption,
which is no factor here.

If you have to replace the OS on your TSM server, and you're not using
AD, then be sure to re-take ownership of the storage volumes.

I didn't notice problems with the FILE class stgpool volumes, but the
DBB/DBS volumes, BACKUP DEVCONFIG, PREPARE, etc did fail.

This kind of problem is more likely if you lose your user DB, because
windows uses machine IDs to generate userIDs, and you don't really get
to make your own UIDs.  So, if you use AD and lose the user DB, or if
you're not using AD and you replace the host but keep the stg drives,
then this will be an issue.

Here's a sample of the output, with the thread context reports omitted:

2011-04-11 06:00:30 ANR1360I Output volume
H:\TIVOLI\TSM\SERVER1\02519629.DBS opened (sequence number 1).
(SESSION: 2390, PROCESS: 234)
2011-04-11 06:00:30 ANR0132E lvmread.c(1245): Memory allocation
failed: object Resync read page buffer, size 4096. (SESSION: 2390,
PROCESS: 234)
2011-04-11 06:00:30 ANRD_1112316882 (iccopy.c:1625)
Thread26: Unable to read from db volume. (SESSION: 2390, PROCESS:
234)
2011-04-11 06:00:30 ANRD Thread26 issued message  from:
(SESSION: 2390, PROCESS: 234)
2011-04-11 06:00:30 ANRD_2749162976 (icback.c:406) Thread26:
Backup rc=6. (SESSION: 2390, PROCESS: 234)
2011-04-11 06:00:30 ANRD Thread26 issued message  from:
(SESSION: 2390, PROCESS: 234)
2011-04-11 06:00:30 ANR4581W Database backup/restore terminated -
internal server error detected. (SESSION: 2390, PROCESS: 234)
2011-04-11 06:00:30 ANRD Thread26 issued message 4581 from:
(SESSION: 2390, PROCESS: 234)
2011-04-11 06:00:30 ANRD Thread26  DB08C000 Unknown
(SESSION: 2390, PROCESS: 234)

...

-JD