Re: Check signals on Power vs. x86...

2011-10-10 Thread Gregor van den Boogaart
@Howard Coles:
> For every 1 proc or core
> of Power you would need 4 or more of x86 (even at their best level).  I
> have seen the numbers from Intel comparing Newer x86 processors to
> Power6 and they are just below the Power 6 (using 2x's the number of
> cores).
Do you have a reference, link, pdf, ... for this?

> The problem is, You can get Power7 cheaper than Power6, and get
> twice the performance.
And for that?

Thanks!

Gregor van den Boogaart


Re: 3592 cartridge jewel case

2011-10-10 Thread Strand, Neil B.
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Hi,

Can 3592 cartridges be ordered with jewel cases such that each tape
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Re: Check signals on Power vs. x86...

2011-10-10 Thread Allen S. Rout

Thanks very much for your various opinions; it's nice to have such a
good sounding board.


On 10/07/2011 11:20 AM, Shawn Drew wrote:


I think he was looking for Power vs x86 in price/performance.  I.E
If you spend 50K on Power systems and 50K on x86 systems.  which
could produce more I/O throughput.  (If not, that's what I'd like to
hear an update on)


Actually, I was aiming more for hardware/performance; this because
price:hardware can be very customer dependant.  I'm comparing, for
example, systems with X cpus of Y gigahertz, with Z core and Q
busses..

At a glance, it seems that the case is still strong for power, on
similar hardware numbers.

I'm trying to comb my bias out of the analysis, but I'm strongly in
Richard's camp:


On 10/07/2011 11:56 AM, Richard Sims wrote:


The major challenge these days is not computer cost but the cost of
supporting complexity, [...]



My various generations of AIX on power substrate under TSM have been
rock-solid for nearly 15 years now, and I've got 8+ TSM instances on
each system image.  So going 'wide' on less expensive, less performant
hardware seems a questionable win at best.



On 10/08/2011 03:46 AM, Daniel Sparrman wrote:


A Toyota Prius easily beats a Porsche in a price / performance
comparison. However, would you still buy the Prius?


I like the metaphor, but I think it erodes the case I want.  What's
the maintenance on a Porsche average in the first 5 years? :)



- Allen S. Rout


Does auditocc table show "reporting occupancy"?

2011-10-10 Thread Keith Arbogast
When client backups are being deduplicated by the TSM server, does the audit 
occupancy table show "reporting occupancy" or physical space occupied by client 
data?  Reporting occupancy is the space a client's data would occupy if it were 
not in a deduplicated pool.  The Occupancy table shows "Reporting occupancy" in 
the Logical Occupancy field.   What does the Audit Occupancy table show?

Thank you,
Keith

Re: Check signals on Power vs. x86...

2011-10-10 Thread Howard Coles
I did have, but I needed space on the usb stick they gave out at the
meeting and deleted them, and when I switched laptops recently several
folders apparently didn't survive the trip.  Since I didn't consider
them important I never tried to recover them.  Not sure if the numbers
are still up on the web or not.  You can always check www.spec.org (?)
or tpc for published results.  


See Ya'
Howard Coles Jr.
John 3:16!


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From: Gregor van den Boogaart
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Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 3:37 AM
To: Dist Stor Manager
Cc: Howard Coles
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Check signals on Power vs. x86...

@Howard Coles:
> For every 1 proc or core
> of Power you would need 4 or more of x86 (even at their best level).
I
> have seen the numbers from Intel comparing Newer x86 processors to
> Power6 and they are just below the Power 6 (using 2x's the number of
> cores). 
Do you have a reference, link, pdf, ... for this?

> The problem is, You can get Power7 cheaper than Power6, and get
> twice the performance.
And for that?

Thanks!

Gregor van den Boogaart


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Re: Defining Multiple filesystems to one FILEDEVCLASS in TSM v5.5

2011-10-10 Thread Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU
Well, now that we have multiple filesystems in this storage pool, we need
to remove one without removing the already allocated volumes.

The second filesystem we added to this FILEDEVCLASS just had a major error
and has remounted itself as READ-ONLY (ext3 journling failed).

So, how do I do this?



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We did it see below, we alos share it with multiple instances on a
physical hosts, so far so good!


define devclass sql-file devtype=file
directory=/tsmstgsql-lv1,/tsmstgsql-lv2,/tsmstgsql-lv3,/tsmstgsql-lv4
maxcapacity=50G MOUNTLimit=128

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We have a  (red hat linux)  server running TSM server 5.5  The question
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are pros/cons.

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Re: Defining Multiple filesystems to one FILEDEVCLASS in TSM v5.5

2011-10-10 Thread Remco Post
you may add or remove directories to the deviceclass as you like, removing one 
will not cause the volumes already in there to be affected in any way.

On 10 okt. 2011, at 20:29, Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU wrote:

> Well, now that we have multiple filesystems in this storage pool, we need
> to remove one without removing the already allocated volumes.
> 
> The second filesystem we added to this FILEDEVCLASS just had a major error
> and has remounted itself as READ-ONLY (ext3 journling failed).
> 
> So, how do I do this?
> 
> 
> 
> From:   "Hart, Charles A" 
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Date:   10/05/2011 10:47 AM
> Subject:Re: [ADSM-L] Defining  Multiple filesystems to one
> FILEDEVCLASS in TSM v5.5
> Sent by:"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" 
> 
> 
> 
> We did it see below, we alos share it with multiple instances on a
> physical hosts, so far so good!
> 
> 
> define devclass sql-file devtype=file
> directory=/tsmstgsql-lv1,/tsmstgsql-lv2,/tsmstgsql-lv3,/tsmstgsql-lv4
> maxcapacity=50G MOUNTLimit=128
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Oracle TDP restore problem

2011-10-10 Thread Huebner,Andy,FORT WORTH,IT
We had some Oracle files deleted and we cannot restore the DB because we are 
missing the control file and catalog.  We cannot figure out how to tell RMAN to 
restore the DB and logs without them.

Is there a way?
This is a TDPO backup without a working TSM agent backup.  The node is running 
AIX.


Andy Huebner


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Re: Oracle TDP restore problem

2011-10-10 Thread Grigori Solonovitch
Usually recovery process quite complicated and depend on many things:
- a few copies of control files should be defined on different disks (see in 
init file something similar to  control_files=("/db/opcctl1","/db/opcctl2"). If 
you still have at least one control file it is possible to copy it to lost 
locations according to COLTROL_FILLES;
- if all copies of control files are lost, try to check if you have included 
control files into backups (check RMAN scripts for "backup .database 
include current controlfile;"). In this case it is possible to restore control 
files from TSM by  using restore controlfile to '';
replicate controlfile from '';
- a few copies of redo log files should be defined on different disks. If you 
still have at least one redo log file in each group available, you are safe 
(Oracle will take care about lost redo log files by using available files and 
after restoring lost redo logs can be redefined). If you have lost all redo 
logs at least in one group, you have to use incomplete recovery;
- database has to be in ARCHIVELOG mode and all archived redo logs are kept in 
file system. If this file system is available, the latest archived redo logs 
(not backed up to TSM yet) can be used from that file system during recovery;
- archived redo logs have to be included into backups (check used RMAN scripts 
for command like "backup .(archivelog from logseq $START_SEQUENCE)".
If you have archived redo log backups, they will be requested during recovery 
automatically;
SUMMARY:
1) If control files, redo log files, archived redo log file system and archived 
redo log backups are available, just use (no data loss):
restore database;
recover database;
2) if only control files have been lost, first restore control file and use (no 
data loss):
restore database;
recover database using backup control file;
3) if any redo log group has been lost use (data loss started from the last 
applied archived redo log):
restore database;
recover database;
...
alter database open resetlogs;

General comments:
- you must be Oracle DBA;
- you mast be familiar with RMAN;
- you must be familiar with TDPO;
- etc.

Good luck!


Grigori G. Solonovitch


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We had some Oracle files deleted and we cannot restore the DB because we are 
missing the control file and catalog.  We cannot figure out how to tell RMAN to 
restore the DB and logs without them.

Is there a way?
This is a TDPO backup without a working TSM agent backup.  The node is running 
AIX.


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