Re: Redundant Tape SAN

2014-02-26 Thread Huebner, Andy
As always this list has wealth of knowledge.  If we build it I may have real 
questions.

Thanks everyone.

Andy Huebner


-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Rick 
Saylor
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 12:15 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Redundant Tape SAN

Andy,

Dual-ported drives such as the 3592 can be connected to both fabrics.
Single ported drives such as lto4 can be connected only to one fabric but you 
can alternate which fabrics the drives are connected to. So, half of the single 
ported drives are on one fabric and half are on the other. The AIX Atape driver 
will handle the multiple paths by enabling the alternate path option. To enable 
the alternate path support issue chdev  -l rmtx/smcx -a alt_pathing=yes for 
each rmt and smc device. By the way, there is a limit of 16 paths per device.
Below is a listing of the tape devices on my TSM server. You'll notice the 
drives appear multiple times, once as a primary(PRI) device and several more 
times as alternate(ALT) devices. You only need to define the primary devices to 
TSM. Atape will determine which path the I/O actually takes. I hope this helps.

lsdev -Cc tape
rmt0  Available 01-00-02-PRI IBM 3592 Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt1  Available 01-00-02-PRI IBM 3592 Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt2  Available 01-00-02-PRI IBM 3592 Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt3  Available 01-00-02-PRI IBM 3592 Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt4  Available 01-00-02-PRI IBM 3592 Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt5  Available 01-00-02-PRI IBM 3592 Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt6  Available 01-00-02-PRI IBM 3592 Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt7  Available 01-00-02-PRI IBM 3580 Ultrium Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt8  Available 01-00-02-PRI IBM 3580 Ultrium Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt9  Available 01-01-02-ALT IBM 3592 Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt10 Available 01-01-02-ALT IBM 3592 Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt11 Available 01-01-02-ALT IBM 3592 Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt12 Available 01-01-02-ALT IBM 3592 Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt13 Available 01-01-02-ALT IBM 3592 Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt14 Available 01-01-02-ALT IBM 3592 Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt15 Available 01-01-02-ALT IBM 3592 Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt16 Available 01-01-02-PRI IBM 3580 Ultrium Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt17 Available 01-01-02-PRI IBM 3580 Ultrium Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt18 Available 0B-00-02-ALT IBM 3592 Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt19 Available 0B-00-02-ALT IBM 3592 Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt20 Available 0B-00-02-ALT IBM 3592 Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt21 Available 0B-00-02-ALT IBM 3592 Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt22 Available 0B-00-02-ALT IBM 3592 Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt23 Available 0B-00-02-ALT IBM 3592 Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt24 Available 0B-00-02-ALT IBM 3592 Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt25 Available 0B-00-02-ALT IBM 3580 Ultrium Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt26 Available 0B-00-02-ALT IBM 3580 Ultrium Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt27 Available 0B-01-02-ALT IBM 3592 Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt28 Available 0B-01-02-ALT IBM 3592 Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt29 Available 0B-01-02-ALT IBM 3592 Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt30 Available 0B-01-02-ALT IBM 3592 Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt31 Available 0B-01-02-ALT IBM 3592 Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt32 Available 0B-01-02-ALT IBM 3592 Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt33 Available 0B-01-02-ALT IBM 3592 Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt34 Available 0B-01-02-ALT IBM 3580 Ultrium Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt35 Available 0B-01-02-ALT IBM 3580 Ultrium Tape Drive (FCP)
smc0  Available 01-00-02-PRI IBM 3584 Library Medium Changer (FCP)
smc1  Available 01-00-02-ALT IBM 3584 Library Medium Changer (FCP)
smc2  Available 01-00-02-PRI IBM 3584 Library Medium Changer (FCP)
smc3  Available 01-01-02-ALT IBM 3584 Library Medium Changer (FCP)
smc4  Available 01-01-02-ALT IBM 3584 Library Medium Changer (FCP)
smc5  Available 01-01-02-ALT IBM 3584 Library Medium Changer (FCP)
smc6  Available 0B-00-02-ALT IBM 3584 Library Medium Changer (FCP)
smc7  Available 0B-00-02-ALT IBM 3584 Library Medium Changer (FCP)
smc8  Available 0B-00-02-ALT IBM 3584 Library Medium Changer (FCP)
smc9  Available 0B-01-02-ALT IBM 3584 Library Medium Changer (FCP)
smc10 Available 0B-01-02-ALT IBM 3584 Library Medium Changer (FCP)
smc11 Available 0B-01-02-ALT IBM 3584 Library Medium Changer (FCP)


At 10:27 AM 2/26/2014, you wrote:
>The concept, 2 fabrics, 1 server to 1 drive.
>In practice, many servers and many drives and many libraries.
>
>Andy Huebner
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf 
>Of Rick Saylor
>Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:52 AM
>To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
>Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Redundant Tape SAN
>
>Andy,
>
>What do you mean by "redundant tape san"? Multiple tape libraries at 
>the same or remote location? Tape drives with more than one fiber port?
>
>Thanks,
>Rick
>
>At 08:19 AM 2/26/2014, you wrote:
> >Is anyone using redundant tape SAN with TSM on AIX?
> >
> >Andy Huebner


Re: Redundant Tape SAN

2014-02-26 Thread Richard Rhodes
Our tape environment has it's own SAN and it is not redundant.  That is, we 
have a single fabric that all servers and tape drives attach to.

Our tape drives are single path attached to the fabric.  The drives have dual 
FC ports, but we only use one.

Each server has dual HBA cards which connect to the fabric.  We use Atape with 
multi-pathing.

Rick  



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Subject: Redundant Tape SAN

Is anyone using redundant tape SAN with TSM on AIX?

Andy Huebner

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Re: Redundant Tape SAN

2014-02-26 Thread Rick Saylor

Andy,

Dual-ported drives such as the 3592 can be connected to both fabrics.
Single ported drives such as lto4 can be connected only to one fabric
but you can alternate which fabrics the drives are connected to. So,
half of the single ported drives are on one fabric and half are on
the other. The AIX Atape driver will handle the multiple paths by
enabling the alternate path option. To enable the alternate path
support issue chdev  -l rmtx/smcx -a alt_pathing=yes for each rmt and
smc device. By the way, there is a limit of 16 paths per device.
Below is a listing of the tape devices on my TSM server. You'll
notice the drives appear multiple times, once as a primary(PRI)
device and several more times as alternate(ALT) devices. You only
need to define the primary devices to TSM. Atape will determine which
path the I/O actually takes. I hope this helps.

lsdev -Cc tape
rmt0  Available 01-00-02-PRI IBM 3592 Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt1  Available 01-00-02-PRI IBM 3592 Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt2  Available 01-00-02-PRI IBM 3592 Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt3  Available 01-00-02-PRI IBM 3592 Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt4  Available 01-00-02-PRI IBM 3592 Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt5  Available 01-00-02-PRI IBM 3592 Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt6  Available 01-00-02-PRI IBM 3592 Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt7  Available 01-00-02-PRI IBM 3580 Ultrium Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt8  Available 01-00-02-PRI IBM 3580 Ultrium Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt9  Available 01-01-02-ALT IBM 3592 Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt10 Available 01-01-02-ALT IBM 3592 Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt11 Available 01-01-02-ALT IBM 3592 Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt12 Available 01-01-02-ALT IBM 3592 Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt13 Available 01-01-02-ALT IBM 3592 Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt14 Available 01-01-02-ALT IBM 3592 Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt15 Available 01-01-02-ALT IBM 3592 Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt16 Available 01-01-02-PRI IBM 3580 Ultrium Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt17 Available 01-01-02-PRI IBM 3580 Ultrium Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt18 Available 0B-00-02-ALT IBM 3592 Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt19 Available 0B-00-02-ALT IBM 3592 Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt20 Available 0B-00-02-ALT IBM 3592 Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt21 Available 0B-00-02-ALT IBM 3592 Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt22 Available 0B-00-02-ALT IBM 3592 Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt23 Available 0B-00-02-ALT IBM 3592 Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt24 Available 0B-00-02-ALT IBM 3592 Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt25 Available 0B-00-02-ALT IBM 3580 Ultrium Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt26 Available 0B-00-02-ALT IBM 3580 Ultrium Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt27 Available 0B-01-02-ALT IBM 3592 Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt28 Available 0B-01-02-ALT IBM 3592 Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt29 Available 0B-01-02-ALT IBM 3592 Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt30 Available 0B-01-02-ALT IBM 3592 Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt31 Available 0B-01-02-ALT IBM 3592 Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt32 Available 0B-01-02-ALT IBM 3592 Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt33 Available 0B-01-02-ALT IBM 3592 Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt34 Available 0B-01-02-ALT IBM 3580 Ultrium Tape Drive (FCP)
rmt35 Available 0B-01-02-ALT IBM 3580 Ultrium Tape Drive (FCP)
smc0  Available 01-00-02-PRI IBM 3584 Library Medium Changer (FCP)
smc1  Available 01-00-02-ALT IBM 3584 Library Medium Changer (FCP)
smc2  Available 01-00-02-PRI IBM 3584 Library Medium Changer (FCP)
smc3  Available 01-01-02-ALT IBM 3584 Library Medium Changer (FCP)
smc4  Available 01-01-02-ALT IBM 3584 Library Medium Changer (FCP)
smc5  Available 01-01-02-ALT IBM 3584 Library Medium Changer (FCP)
smc6  Available 0B-00-02-ALT IBM 3584 Library Medium Changer (FCP)
smc7  Available 0B-00-02-ALT IBM 3584 Library Medium Changer (FCP)
smc8  Available 0B-00-02-ALT IBM 3584 Library Medium Changer (FCP)
smc9  Available 0B-01-02-ALT IBM 3584 Library Medium Changer (FCP)
smc10 Available 0B-01-02-ALT IBM 3584 Library Medium Changer (FCP)
smc11 Available 0B-01-02-ALT IBM 3584 Library Medium Changer (FCP)


At 10:27 AM 2/26/2014, you wrote:

The concept, 2 fabrics, 1 server to 1 drive.
In practice, many servers and many drives and many libraries.

Andy Huebner


-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On
Behalf Of Rick Saylor
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:52 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Redundant Tape SAN

Andy,

What do you mean by "redundant tape san"? Multiple tape libraries at
the same or remote location? Tape drives with more than one fiber port?

Thanks,
Rick

At 08:19 AM 2/26/2014, you wrote:
>Is anyone using redundant tape SAN with TSM on AIX?
>
>Andy Huebner


Re: Redundant Tape SAN

2014-02-26 Thread Huebner, Andy
The concept, 2 fabrics, 1 server to 1 drive.
In practice, many servers and many drives and many libraries.

Andy Huebner


-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Rick 
Saylor
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:52 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Redundant Tape SAN

Andy,

What do you mean by "redundant tape san"? Multiple tape libraries at the same 
or remote location? Tape drives with more than one fiber port?

Thanks,
Rick

At 08:19 AM 2/26/2014, you wrote:
>Is anyone using redundant tape SAN with TSM on AIX?
>
>Andy Huebner


Re: Redundant Tape SAN

2014-02-26 Thread Mike De Gasperis
I personally think it's worth the effort, not so much for the fail-over but for 
the fact the Atape driver will do some HBA load balancing for you to maximize 
performance across less utilized HBA ports. We do have a few ProtecTier's in 
the mix and also a Windows 2008R2 based LAN Free server, the LF server actually 
utilizes some of this redundancy as well and the IBM Tape driver load balancing 
as well. For the VTL based devices what we typically do is rename the rmt 
entries in AIX based on their serial number since they've typically been just 
different drives behind the same front end WWPN's.

We're running 60 physical LTO5's and 128 emulated LTO3 devices from the PT for 
comparisons sake. With some scripts work wise it isn't too much more effort.


- Original Message -
Is it worth the work?
Are there any VTLs involved?

I may be doing 4 TSM servers to 18x 3952's, 8x LTO6 shared drives and 120x 
LTO1's for each server non-shared in multiple DataDomains. I also have LANFree 
clients that do not support redundant fabrics.

Thank you,

Andy Huebner


-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Mike 
De Gasperis
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 8:44 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Redundant Tape SAN

We utilize a redundant tape SAN at our main data centers with multiple host 
site HBA ports. Using the Atape control and data path fail-over options we have 
twelve device entries for each physical tape device. Works really well and this 
is in an AIX/LPAR/VIO environment, we've virtualized the HBA ports and are 
using NPIV. We have some scripts created that rename each rmt entry via chdev 
to utilize the last four digits of the WWPN and the AIX fiber channel adapter 
to make things easier to line up as well when defining drives in TSM.

- Original Message -
Is anyone using redundant tape SAN with TSM on AIX?

Andy Huebner


Re: Redundant Tape SAN

2014-02-26 Thread Rick Saylor

Andy,

What do you mean by "redundant tape san"? Multiple tape libraries at
the same or remote location? Tape drives with more than one fiber port?

Thanks,
Rick

At 08:19 AM 2/26/2014, you wrote:

Is anyone using redundant tape SAN with TSM on AIX?

Andy Huebner


Re: Redundant Tape SAN

2014-02-26 Thread Huebner, Andy
Is it worth the work?
Are there any VTLs involved?

I may be doing 4 TSM servers to 18x 3952's, 8x LTO6 shared drives and 120x 
LTO1's for each server non-shared in multiple DataDomains.  I also have LANFree 
clients that do not support redundant fabrics.

Thank you,

Andy Huebner


-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Mike 
De Gasperis
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 8:44 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Redundant Tape SAN

We utilize a redundant tape SAN at our main data centers with multiple host 
site HBA ports. Using the Atape control and data path fail-over options we have 
twelve device entries for each physical tape device. Works really well and this 
is in an AIX/LPAR/VIO environment, we've virtualized the HBA ports and are 
using NPIV. We have some scripts created that rename each rmt entry via chdev 
to utilize the last four digits of the WWPN and the AIX fiber channel adapter 
to make things easier to line up as well when defining drives in TSM.

- Original Message -
Is anyone using redundant tape SAN with TSM on AIX?

Andy Huebner


Re: Redundant Tape SAN

2014-02-26 Thread Mike De Gasperis
We utilize a redundant tape SAN at our main data centers with multiple host 
site HBA ports. Using the Atape control and data path fail-over options we have 
twelve device entries for each physical tape device. Works really well and this 
is in an AIX/LPAR/VIO environment, we've virtualized the HBA ports and are 
using NPIV. We have some scripts created that rename each rmt entry via chdev 
to utilize the last four digits of the WWPN and the AIX fiber channel adapter 
to make things easier to line up as well when defining drives in TSM.

- Original Message -
Is anyone using redundant tape SAN with TSM on AIX?

Andy Huebner


Redundant Tape SAN

2014-02-26 Thread Huebner, Andy
Is anyone using redundant tape SAN with TSM on AIX?

Andy Huebner