Re: Archive Log Overflow never empties

2014-11-25 Thread Rhodes, Richard L.
We are also on 6.2.5 and had this happen once.  
I agree, the archive log overflow area does not seem to work as advertised.
I finally just deleted the archive logs in the overflow area after several 
backup.

Rick

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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Roger 
Deschner
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 8:27 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Archive Log Overflow never empties

We have four instances of TSM Server 6.2.5 on AIX, which basically
behave pretty well. But on all of them, we occasionally get a little bit
of data overflowing into the Archive Overflow Log filesystem. I don't
know why, because as far as I can tell the Archive Log filesystem has
never been allowed to fill up. But anyway, it never empties out. Full
database backups reliably free space in the Archive Log filesystem, but
the Archive Overflow Log just gradually fills up. One of them is up to
20%, over a period of a year. I saw somewhere that it takes two full
database backups, but there have been many dozens of full backups.

Any idea how I can get the Archive Overflow Log to empty out?

Roger Deschner  University of Illinois at Chicago rog...@uic.edu
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Re: BA and TDP for Windows and REBOOT

2014-11-25 Thread Hans Christian Riksheim
The RFE was rejected.

I guess rebooting servers is no problem if the only servers you are dealing
with resides in a lab.

Hans Chr.

On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 1:02 PM, Hans Christian Riksheim bull...@gmail.com
wrote:

 The 7.1.1 client has been improved so that it won't reboot without warning
 and cause havoc amongst our customers.

 Good.

 But it still needs a reboot because of some components for the GUI. This
 means that something that should take 5 minutes now can take a very long
 time:

 Bureaucratic change process.
 Obtain downtime days or weeks down the road.
 Pay a technician overtime to do this trivial task at night hours.

 IBM should redesign the clients so that it is not dependant on extra
 software that requires a reboot. This problem was not present with 6.3 and
 earlier and the GUI for 7 isn't THAT spectacular so this should be possible.

 RFE is submitted here.

 http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rfe/execute?use_case=viewRfeCR_ID=59755


 Regards,


 Hans Chr.



Re: BA and TDP for Windows and REBOOT

2014-11-25 Thread Remco Post
it’s windows, those servers reboot every month anyway. ;-)

 Op 25 nov. 2014, om 15:14 heeft Hans Christian Riksheim bull...@gmail.com 
 het volgende geschreven:
 
 The RFE was rejected.
 
 I guess rebooting servers is no problem if the only servers you are dealing
 with resides in a lab.
 
 Hans Chr.
 
 On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 1:02 PM, Hans Christian Riksheim bull...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 The 7.1.1 client has been improved so that it won't reboot without warning
 and cause havoc amongst our customers.
 
 Good.
 
 But it still needs a reboot because of some components for the GUI. This
 means that something that should take 5 minutes now can take a very long
 time:
 
 Bureaucratic change process.
 Obtain downtime days or weeks down the road.
 Pay a technician overtime to do this trivial task at night hours.
 
 IBM should redesign the clients so that it is not dependant on extra
 software that requires a reboot. This problem was not present with 6.3 and
 earlier and the GUI for 7 isn't THAT spectacular so this should be possible.
 
 RFE is submitted here.
 
 http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rfe/execute?use_case=viewRfeCR_ID=59755
 
 
 Regards,
 
 
 Hans Chr.
 

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Re: Backing up Isilons with TSM

2014-11-25 Thread Zoltan Forray
Skylar,

Can you give us details on how you setup the Isilon to give a TSM node
authority to back up the individual mount points?  My SAN/Isilon guy has
tried setting up a standard TSM node but all attempts at backing up mounted
filesystems blocks him with access denied errors.  We are very new to
Isilon so any help would be greatly appreciated.

Feel free to email me directly if you want to take this discussion
offline/off-list.

On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 11:08 AM, Skylar Thompson skyl...@u.washington.edu
wrote:

 Hi Zoltan,

 We backup two large Isilon clusters (one 715TB, the other 2PB) using TSM.
 We looked at NDMP at ran away quickly due to the full backup requirement.
 Instead, we worked with the data owners to setup a data organization scheme
 before hand, then back up individual directories as filespaces using TSM
 NFS clients connected over 10GbE. Currently we have five of these clients,
 and have accomodated bursts of as much as 50TB of changed/new data in a day
 using them. The only nemesis we have are folks who create lots of tiny
 files; fortunately, though, over time these incidents have gotten less
 frequent due to education and improvements in genomic tools.

 We've been asking for Isilon to make a native TSM client since before they
 were bought by EMC, and unfortunately they're just not intererested. Now
 that EMC owns them, I think the possibility of a native client is even more
 remote.

 On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 11:00:28AM -0500, Zoltan Forray wrote:
  Anyone have experience backing up an EMC Isilon and can share
 war-stories,
  methods, etc?

 --
 -- Skylar Thompson (skyl...@u.washington.edu)
 -- Genome Sciences Department, System Administrator
 -- Foege Building S046, (206)-685-7354
 -- University of Washington School of Medicine




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Re: Backing up Isilons with TSM

2014-11-25 Thread Christian Svensson
Hi,
We backing up a couple of PB of Isilon daily that generates a couple of 100GB 
per day of new data.
We are backing up over NFS but it is very bad solution, and it takes around 24 
hours before the Isilon and TSM have identify all new files.

There is a undocumented APIs so you can identify all change files in the Isilon 
so you can run a selective backup, but we had a hard time to get hold of them 
from EMC because they are not as open as IBM is.
 
Another way that is not recommended is to use NDMP, LOL good luck with that if 
you don't want to spend millions of $$$.

What I try to do now instead is either replace the EMC Isilon with IBM ESS 
instead that is much better or try implement GPFS on top of the Isilon so we 
get a much better backup functionality. But that is nothing IBM have tried to 
get working.

/Christian

-Original Message-
From: Zoltan Forray [mailto:zfor...@vcu.edu] 
Sent: den 25 november 2014 17:35
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Backing up Isilons with TSM

Skylar,

Can you give us details on how you setup the Isilon to give a TSM node 
authority to back up the individual mount points?  My SAN/Isilon guy has tried 
setting up a standard TSM node but all attempts at backing up mounted 
filesystems blocks him with access denied errors.  We are very new to Isilon 
so any help would be greatly appreciated.

Feel free to email me directly if you want to take this discussion 
offline/off-list.

On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 11:08 AM, Skylar Thompson skyl...@u.washington.edu
wrote:

 Hi Zoltan,

 We backup two large Isilon clusters (one 715TB, the other 2PB) using TSM.
 We looked at NDMP at ran away quickly due to the full backup requirement.
 Instead, we worked with the data owners to setup a data organization 
 scheme before hand, then back up individual directories as filespaces 
 using TSM NFS clients connected over 10GbE. Currently we have five of 
 these clients, and have accomodated bursts of as much as 50TB of 
 changed/new data in a day using them. The only nemesis we have are 
 folks who create lots of tiny files; fortunately, though, over time 
 these incidents have gotten less frequent due to education and improvements 
 in genomic tools.

 We've been asking for Isilon to make a native TSM client since before 
 they were bought by EMC, and unfortunately they're just not 
 intererested. Now that EMC owns them, I think the possibility of a 
 native client is even more remote.

 On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 11:00:28AM -0500, Zoltan Forray wrote:
  Anyone have experience backing up an EMC Isilon and can share
 war-stories,
  methods, etc?

 --
 -- Skylar Thompson (skyl...@u.washington.edu)
 -- Genome Sciences Department, System Administrator
 -- Foege Building S046, (206)-685-7354
 -- University of Washington School of Medicine




--
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Virginia Commonwealth University
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Re: Backing up Isilons with TSM

2014-11-25 Thread Grant Street

Are you using NFS or CIFS?

If it's NFS make sure you export the mount point or /ifs with at least
read and root access to the TSM node(s).

Grant

On 26/11/14 03:34, Zoltan Forray wrote:

Skylar,

Can you give us details on how you setup the Isilon to give a TSM node
authority to back up the individual mount points?  My SAN/Isilon guy has
tried setting up a standard TSM node but all attempts at backing up mounted
filesystems blocks him with access denied errors.  We are very new to
Isilon so any help would be greatly appreciated.

Feel free to email me directly if you want to take this discussion
offline/off-list.

On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 11:08 AM, Skylar Thompson skyl...@u.washington.edu
wrote:


Hi Zoltan,

We backup two large Isilon clusters (one 715TB, the other 2PB) using TSM.
We looked at NDMP at ran away quickly due to the full backup requirement.
Instead, we worked with the data owners to setup a data organization scheme
before hand, then back up individual directories as filespaces using TSM
NFS clients connected over 10GbE. Currently we have five of these clients,
and have accomodated bursts of as much as 50TB of changed/new data in a day
using them. The only nemesis we have are folks who create lots of tiny
files; fortunately, though, over time these incidents have gotten less
frequent due to education and improvements in genomic tools.

We've been asking for Isilon to make a native TSM client since before they
were bought by EMC, and unfortunately they're just not intererested. Now
that EMC owns them, I think the possibility of a native client is even more
remote.

On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 11:00:28AM -0500, Zoltan Forray wrote:

Anyone have experience backing up an EMC Isilon and can share

war-stories,

methods, etc?

--
-- Skylar Thompson (skyl...@u.washington.edu)
-- Genome Sciences Department, System Administrator
-- Foege Building S046, (206)-685-7354
-- University of Washington School of Medicine




--
*Zoltan Forray*
TSM Software  Hardware Administrator
BigBro / Hobbit / Xymon Administrator
Virginia Commonwealth University
UCC/Office of Technology Services
zfor...@vcu.edu - 804-828-4807
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