Re: DEL FILE on individual Windows file spaces
Delete it using the FSID. "del files nodename fsid# namet=fsid" Using your example, del file afsdbms 3 namet=fsid. ####### Joe Howell Shelter Insurance Companies (573)-214-6534 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lawrence Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" 05/16/2005 02:00 PM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" To ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject DEL FILE on individual Windows file spaces We have a mix of AIX and Windows.example below. On deleting individual filespaces on AIX there is no problem, as: del file aixadmin /usr However, trying to delete individual Windows filespaces causes probems. All files can be deleted but individula filespaces specified returns a not found error: del file afsdbms *this works def file afsdbms \\afsdbms\e$..does not work AFSDBMS \\afsdbms\-1 WinNTNTFS No 8,665.1 32.9 c$ AFSDBMS \\afsdbms\-2 WinNTNTFS No 4,297.4 19.1 d$ AFSDBMS \\afsdbms\-3 WinNTNTFS No 8,604.0 20.8 e$ AFSDBMS SYSTEM 4 WinNTSYSTEM Yes 0.0 0.0 OBJECT AIXADMIN/ 1 AIX JFS No 64.0 34.3 AIXADMIN/usr 2 AIX JFS No 4,224.0 39.4 AIXADMIN/var 3 AIX JFS No 64.0 57.8 AIXADMIN/home 4 AIX JFS No 64.0 18.9 AIXADMIN/opt 5 AIX JFS No 64.0 18.9 AIXADMIN/workarea 8 AIX JFS No 6,400.0 23.1 AIXADMIN/usr/sys/i- 10 AIX JFS No 25,600.0 16.6 === This e-mail is intended only for its addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], and delete the original message. ===
VOLHIST cleanup on z/OS
I've been asked to clean up our TSM server's volume history file. I do regularly delete old dbbackup entries, but I've left the create/update/delete entries alone because we're running on z/OS; the RMM takes care of our volume management but I want to be able to use the volhist file during a disaster recovery in case the tape catalog is unavailable. How do those of you who run on z/OS deal with your volhist file? You can't just delete everything older than X days old because you might still be using it, but you need to weed out all of the "obsolete" entries. ### Joe Howell Shelter Insurance Companies (573)-214-6534 [EMAIL PROTECTED] === This e-mail is intended only for its addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], and delete the original message. ===
Re: If we all complain, do you think they will add the WEB gui back?
What PTF are they talking about? 5.3.1 isn't even out yet, much less 5.3.2. ### Joe Howell Shelter Insurance Companies (573)-214-6534 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ben Bullock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" 03/14/2005 09:20 AM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" To ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: If we all complain, do you think they will add the WEB gui back? Hmm, I just got an e-mail from my IBM rep that seems to contradict the messages you are getting. Here is the text from him: ..." Since there were several customers that complained about taking the oldTSM web GUI interface away, with the PTF that bring TSM to the 5.3.2 level, you have the option to continue to use the old interface that you like better. Please download the PTF and look at the read me file because there may be some considerations such as what port to use, etc. If you have problems with the PTF, I can have a technical TSM person get in contact with you." I have yet to download it (too busy with other things), but thought I'd share... Ben -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Howell Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 2:57 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: If we all complain, do you think they will add the WEB gui back? OK - I just got back from a user group meeting where there was a briefing by IBM on ITSM 5.3. They stated categorically that under NO circumstances would the web interface be coming back. ITSM 5.3.1 is supposed to be out in April and will be largely made up of fixes to the Admin Console and the ISC. ### Joe Howell Shelter Insurance Companies (573)-214-6534 [EMAIL PROTECTED] === This e-mail is intended only for its addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], and delete the original message. ===
Re: If we all complain, do you think they will add the WEB gui back?
OK - I just got back from a user group meeting where there was a briefing by IBM on ITSM 5.3. They stated categorically that under NO circumstances would the web interface be coming back. ITSM 5.3.1 is supposed to be out in April and will be largely made up of fixes to the Admin Console and the ISC. ### Joe Howell Shelter Insurance Companies (573)-214-6534 [EMAIL PROTECTED] === This e-mail is intended only for its addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], and delete the original message. ===
Re: tape use question
What we found was that, after having run a COPY STGPOOL and then shipping the new tapes offsite, if we started reclamation it tended to recopy the very volumes that we had just created and vaulted. Our vault had grown to some 700-800 volumes. With weekend-only reclamation the pool grows to around 400 volumes by Friday but then drops back down to around 100. This is with some 60 clients, all collocated. Take a hard look at your reclamation cycles and what volumes are being used for input. ### Joe Howell Shelter Insurance Companies (573)-214-6534 [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Jones, Eric J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" 02/17/2005 02:20 PM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" To ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: tape use question We run daily reclamation to avoid long reclamation sessions that can go on for some time. We also only send out full tapes to avoid sending out tapes to often. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Howell Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 2:51 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: tape use question How often are you doing reclamation on your vault pool? We used to do reclamation daily and found ourselves in a similar situation. We changed to only reclaiming once a week and like that much better. ### Joe Howell Shelter Insurance Companies (573)-214-6534 [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Giglio, Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" 02/17/2005 01:40 PM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" To ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject tape use question Just a quick question to the experienced TSmers out there Does anybody have any idea or suggestions on how we can slow down our tape usage. We are up to 70 tapes going out the door each day and its growing more by the month. We have 6 ,,3594 tape libraries , about 60 win NT servers 12 AIX boxes not including a SP maxed out. We find our self constantly running vault retrieve since the tape shortage is getting worse by the day. Any suggestions would help . TSM version 5.1 Thanks Paul Giglio EMI Records New York NY 1212-408-8311 -- Music from EMI This e-mail including any attachments is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you have received it in error please advise the sender immediately by return email and then delete it from your system. The unauthorised use, distribution, copying or alteration of this email is strictly forbidden. If you need assistance please contact us on +44 20 7795 7000. This email is from a unit or subsidiary of EMI Group plc. Registered Office: 27 Wrights Lane, London W8 5SW Registered in England No 229231. === This e-mail is intended only for its addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], and delete the original message. ===
Re: tape use question
How often are you doing reclamation on your vault pool? We used to do reclamation daily and found ourselves in a similar situation. We changed to only reclaiming once a week and like that much better. ### Joe Howell Shelter Insurance Companies (573)-214-6534 [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Giglio, Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" 02/17/2005 01:40 PM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" To ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject tape use question Just a quick question to the experienced TSmers out there Does anybody have any idea or suggestions on how we can slow down our tape usage. We are up to 70 tapes going out the door each day and its growing more by the month. We have 6 ,,3594 tape libraries , about 60 win NT servers 12 AIX boxes not including a SP maxed out. We find our self constantly running vault retrieve since the tape shortage is getting worse by the day. Any suggestions would help . TSM version 5.1 Thanks Paul Giglio EMI Records New York NY 1212-408-8311 -- Music from EMI This e-mail including any attachments is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you have received it in error please advise the sender immediately by return email and then delete it from your system. The unauthorised use, distribution, copying or alteration of this email is strictly forbidden. If you need assistance please contact us on +44 20 7795 7000. This email is from a unit or subsidiary of EMI Group plc. Registered Office: 27 Wrights Lane, London W8 5SW Registered in England No 229231. === This e-mail is intended only for its addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], and delete the original message. ===
Re: Questions concerning file/user exits
Eric - make sure that you're not encountering authorization problems. Try scheduling your script from the server: 'define clientaction action=command options=". If it fails to run then you might have a permissions issue with whatever userid your scheduler runs as. ########### Joe Howell Shelter Insurance Companies (573)-214-6534 [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Jones, Eric J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" 02/17/2005 07:31 AM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" To ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: Questions concerning file/user exits Good Morning. I setup in the DSM.OPT file a preschedulecmd with a batch file that I've tested and it worked well outside of TSM. When the backup kicked off(serverinitiated) it failed. In the dsmerror.log I'm receiving the following error. 02/16/2005 19:01:25 ANS1902E The PRESCHEDULECMD command failed. The scheduled event will not be executed. 02/16/2005 19:01:25 ANS1512E Scheduled event 'CAGE_DEV_INTEL' failed. Return code = 12. -- It looked like I only needed quotes arount the command if blanks were present which none are. The line in the DSM.OPT file is preschedulecmd d:\NTBACKUP\SYSTEMSTATE_Backup.bat The backup in TSM ran fine until I added the preschedulecmd. Nothing ran in the batch file. Do I need to add/change anything in the DSM.OPT file preschedulecmd? It's running on a win2K machine with SP4 and TSM 5.2.2 The server is AIX 5.2 with TSM 5.2.2 Thanks for the help, Eric -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jurjen Oskam Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 8:06 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Questions concerning file/user exits On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 09:34:52AM -, Davis Adrian wrote: [ passing filetextexit output to a script ] > I presume that this has already been thought of - So I was wondering if > anybody has tried it? If so are there any problems? This is exactly what I'm doing, and it works quite well. I created a named pipe, and let the TSM server use that as a filetextexit (use the APPEND option). On the other end of the pipe a Perl-script is running, which reads from the pipe and takes actions depending on the messages it receives. Beware that such a setup could result in unwanted signals to the TSM server (SIGPIPE). Test this well. -- Jurjen Oskam "E-mail has just erupted like a weed, and instead of considering what to say when they write, people now just let thoughts drool out onto the screen." - R. Craig Hogan === This e-mail is intended only for its addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], and delete the original message. ===
Re: Server Performance decreasing rapidly: help!
What's your REGION set to on the startup jcl? We're using 768M, but then we appear to be a smaller implementation than you based on your database size. ####### Joe Howell Shelter Insurance Companies (573)-214-6534 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Joni Moyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" 01/27/2005 08:34 AM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" To ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Server Performance decreasing rapidly: help! Hey! The performance on our TSM server is going down rapidly. It is on os/390 at level 5.2.2.5. I have the following settings: Server Option Option SettingServer Option Option Setting - - CommTimeOut600 IdleTimeOut90 BufPoolSize135168LogPoolSize4096 DateFormat 1 (mm/dd/)TimeFormat 1 (hh:mm:ss) NumberFormat 1 (1,000.00) MessageFormat 1 Language AMENG Alias Halt HALT MaxSessions300 ExpInterval0 ExpQuiet NoEventServerYes MirrorRead DB NormalMirrorRead LOG Normal MirrorWrite DB SequentialMirrorWrite LOGParallel VolumeHistory 'SYS1.TSM.B1.VOLHIS- VolumeHistory 'SYS1.TSM.A1.VOLHIS- T' T' Devconfig 'SYS1.TSM.B1.DEVCON- Devconfig 'SYS1.TSM.A1.DEVCON- F' F' TxnGroupMax256 MoveBatchSize 1000 MoveSizeThresh 2048 StatusMsgCnt 10 RestoreInterval1,440 UseLargeBuffersYes DisableScheds NoNOBUFPREfetch No AuditStorage Yes REQSYSauthoutfile Yes SELFTUNEBUFpools- Yes SELFTUNETXNsizeNo ize DBPAGEShadow NoDBPAGESHADOWFile dbpgshdw.bdt MsgStackTrace OnQueryAuth None LogWarnFullPerCe- 90ThroughPutDataTh- 0 nt reshold ThroughPutTimeTh- 0 NOPREEMPT ( No ) reshold Resource Timeout 60TEC UTF8 EventsNo CommOpenTimeOut20TcpPort1500 TcpAdminport 1500 TcpNameTCPIP2 HttpTcpPort1580 TECHost TECPort0 UNIQUETECeventsNo UNIQUETDPTECeven- NoIcsPort1500 ts ICSAdminport 1500 IcsSname *NONE* PDMPort1580 PDMName*NONE* PDMConnect PDM TAPEIOBufs 1 UserExit FileExit FileTextExit HttpIcsPort1580 DeletionExit ARCTVEXT MsgSuppress*NONE* LuName *NONE*Iucv *NONE* RouteCode 11MsgHilight *NONE* MPThreadingNoTCPBufsize 32,768 HPDTenable Yes HPDTstorageECSA HPDTbuffer#6 HPDTexpand#2 NOLONG ( No ) The q db f=d is showing me that the cache hit% just keeps going down. Available Space (MB): 116,320 Assigned Capacity (MB): 108,456 Maximum Extension (MB): 7,864 Maximum Reduction (MB): 16,804 Page Size (bytes): 4,096 Total Usable Pages: 27,764,736 Used Pages: 23,466,774 Pct Util: 84.5 Max. Pct Util: 84.5 Physical Volumes: 50 Buffer Pool Pages: 33,792 Total Buffer Requests: 50,768,552 Cache Hit Pct.: 97.63 Cache Wait Pct.: 0.00 And the Log Pool Pct. Util is greater than 0. Available Space (MB): 11,636 Assigned Capacity (MB): 7,576 Maximum Extension (MB): 4,060 Maximum Reduction (MB): 7,244 Page Size (bytes): 4,096 Total Usable Pages: 1,938,944 Used Pages: 84,073 Pct Util: 4.3 Max. Pct Util: 5.7 Physical Volumes: 5 Log Pool Pages: 1,024 Log Pool Pct. Util: 0.57 What am I doing wrong? Any ideas? I am at a loss. Thank you in advance! Joni Moyer Highmark Storage Systems Work:(717)302-6603 Fax:(717)302-5974 [EMAIL PROTECTED] === This e-mail is intended only for its addressee and may contain informat
Tape volume in wrong storage pool/devclass?
This is very weird - has anyone else ever seen anything like this? TSM 5.2 on z/OS 1.4, using a 3494 ATL. I was running reclamation on my offsite copy storage pool over the weekend and got a "mount failed" error on a volume. Investigation showed that the volume was being requested by TSM and the request could not be filled by RMM because the volume was offsite. When I did a "q vol", TSM showed that 1) the volume was in the ONSITE primary tape pool and 2) had a dataset name that corresponds with my ONSITE tape device class. RMM, however, showed that the volume had a different dataset name, one that corresponds with my OFFSITE tape device class. We recalled the volume (which WAS in the vault offsite) and dumped the label, which agreed with what RMM said. As the volume was created three weeks or so ago, and my oldest TSM log isn't that old, I can't pursue this any further. Somehow this volume got created and reused without one of TSM or RMM "knowing" about it, but I can't figure out how. This isn't the first strangeness I've seen lately - I had a volume get mounted for write during a copy stgpool operation; later on it was released as empty but the RMM exit apparently wasn't driven, so it got sent offsite, but TSM still thought it was available and later tried to request a mount to write on it. Level 2 and I are still scratching our heads over that one. ### Joe Howell Shelter Insurance Companies (573)-214-6534 [EMAIL PROTECTED] === This e-mail is intended only for its addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], and delete the original message. ===
Copy storage pool retention question
TSM 5.2 server on z/OS. I had a problem last night with a vault tape that TSM tried to mount but which is actually still at the vault. What happened was that the volume was mounted Wednesday night during a COPY STGPOOL operation, but was not written to and was immediately unmounted. So the status was EMPTY. Later that night our automation issued an UPD VOL command to mark empty vault tapes READWRITE so that our tape managment cycle would call them back in from the vault to be scratched and reused. The volume in question was updated, but the volume was never released to the tape management system and did not get brought back. Then TSM tried to mount it again Thursday night and the mount failed. I think what happened is that I got bitten by the copy pool's retention period, which is set to one day. Can anyone confirm that, if TSM mounts a volume but doesn't write to it, that it doesn't get marked PENDING but rather EMPTY? Sound like a fixable problem to anyone else? ########### Joe Howell Shelter Insurance Companies (573)-214-6534 [EMAIL PROTECTED] === This e-mail is intended only for its addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], and delete the original message. ===
Re: tsm and snapshot errors on windows
A snapshot cannot be taken to the same volume that is being backed up. That's what is generating the errors. For example, the snapshot of C: would have to be written to the D: drive and vice-versa. ### Joe Howell Shelter Insurance Companies (573)-214-6534 [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Killam, Perpetua" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12/17/2004 11:52 AM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc Subject tsm and snapshot errors on windows I read on the newsgroup about this and have added the suggestions on my dsm.opt file ,but it still has the same errors. 09:27:36 ANS1376E Unable to perform operation using a point-in-time copy of the filesystem. The backup/archive operation will continue without snapshot support. 12/15/2004 09:28:31 ANS1327E The snapshot operation for 'D:\*' failed. Error code: 673. 12/15/2004 09:28:31 ANS1327E The snapshot operation for 'C:\*' failed. Error code: 659. 12/15/2004 09:28:32 ANS1375E The snapshot operation failed. Dsm.opt file includes include.fs C: fileleveltype=dynamic snapshotcachesize 4 include.fs C: fileleveltype=dynamic include.fs d: fileleveltype=dynamic include.fs e: fileleveltype=dynamic include.fs f: fileleveltype=dynamic SNAPSHOTFSIDLEWAIT 5 SNAPSHOTFSIDLERETRIES 10 Please let me know, Thanks, Perpetua This e-mail may be privileged and/or confidential, and the sender does not waive any related rights and obligations. Any distribution, use or copying of this e-mail or the information it contains by other than an intended recipient is unauthorized. If you received this e-mail in error, please advise me (by return e-mail or otherwise) immediately. Ce courriel est confidentiel et protege. L'expediteur ne renonce pas aux droits et obligations qui s'y rapportent. Toute diffusion, utilisation ou copie de ce message ou des renseignements qu'il contient par une personne autre que le (les) destinataire(s) designe(s) est interdite. Si vous recevez ce courriel par erreur, veuillez m'en aviser immediatement, par retour de courriel ou par un autre moyen. === This e-mail is intended only for its addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], and delete the original message. ===
Re: TSM 5.2.3 journal service crashes?
Hmmm. I'd already set RESOURCEUTILIZATION up, but I hadn't thought of actually setting up a separate node. What are the licensing implications of this? Have you noticed any throughput problems from running multiple backups through the same NIC? Not to mention CPU or disk activity. ####### Joe Howell Shelter Insurance Companies (573)-214-6534 [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Stapleton, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12/16/2004 11:06 AM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc Subject Re: TSM 5.2.3 journal service crashes? From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Howell >I'm having problems with the journal service on one of my >clients and need some idea if the problem is with me or with >the service. This particular system is a large Windows 2000 >file server, with around 175GB of stuff on one drive. Because >of processing constraints I am restricted to a 5-hour backup >window. To deal with the root of your problem, have you multithreaded your backup with the use of multiple nodenames? Have you considered the use of weekly image backups in combination with daily regular backups? -- Mark Stapleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Berbee Information Networks Office 262.521.5627 === This e-mail is intended only for its addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], and delete the original message. ===
TSM 5.2.3 journal service crashes?
I'm having problems with the journal service on one of my clients and need some idea if the problem is with me or with the service. This particular system is a large Windows 2000 file server, with around 175GB of stuff on one drive. Because of processing constraints I am restricted to a 5-hour backup window. I kick off my backups at around 1700 and if they're not done by 2200 the session is cancelled so that migration and vault copies can start. The journal service is critical to this particular server because it speeds things up so much. The problem I'm having is that on some nights the backup runs long and the session gets cancelled. At that point the journal service crashes and then, since the journal gets invalidated, I get into a vicious cycle of having to do a non-journal-based incremental backup that can't finish because it takes so long to scan the filesystem, etc., etc. 1) Is anyone else having problems with a 5.2.3 journal service crashing when a client session is cancelled? I don't see much in the archives and even less in IBM's knowledge base. 2) Does the cancellation of a backup session necessarily invalidate a journal? I don't see why it would, but I didn't write the code. 3) Am I living on the edge here? Should I reasonably expect to be able to do what I'm trying to do? ### Joe Howell Shelter Insurance Companies (573)-214-6534 [EMAIL PROTECTED] === This e-mail is intended only for its addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], and delete the original message. ===
Re: 64-bit support on 390?
Thanks. Hopefully this won't be too much of an adventure. "Slag, Jerry B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:No issues. We did make changes to WLM to place TSM into a separate service class that has the 'storcrit' setting active. TSM runs well and the storcrit setting keeps the cpu usage way down. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Joe Howell Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 10:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 64-bit support on 390? We're going to a disaster-recovery exercise in a couple of months and one of the things that we want to try is running our mainframe environment on "z" hardware in 64-bit mode, Just To See What Happens. Is anyone running TSM 5.2.2 in 64-bit mode on a mainframe? Any excitement waiting for me? Joe Howell Shelter Insurance Companies Columbia, MO - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th Joe Howell Shelter Insurance Companies Columbia, MO - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25"
64-bit support on 390?
We're going to a disaster-recovery exercise in a couple of months and one of the things that we want to try is running our mainframe environment on "z" hardware in 64-bit mode, Just To See What Happens. Is anyone running TSM 5.2.2 in 64-bit mode on a mainframe? Any excitement waiting for me? Joe Howell Shelter Insurance Companies Columbia, MO - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th
Re: Restoring a Win2k server
Hi, Richard. Generally what we do is: Load new system with W2K Server, service packs, and TSM client. Set hostname to same name as old system. Restore all drives and then the system object. Take care to NOT reboot before everything is restored. Reboot. Now - if you are restoring to the same hardware configuration, everything should be OK at this point. If you have not used the same - and I mean the exact same - hardware, boot from the W2K install CD. At the first prompt, tell setup that you want to install, not repair. Then setup will detect that Windows is installed on the hard drive and at the second prompt you tell it that you want to repair. Then setup will go through and detect all the hardware and reload the files in system32. After you reboot things should be good. Your mileage may vary - this is generally what we do at disaster-recovery exercises and it works well. "Dearman, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm running TSM 5.2.2 on Aix and I have a client that is a Win2k server which we use as a print server. I tried a test restore by just building a win2k server and loading TSM client 5.2 on it and restoring from a backup set. I did a backup of the original print server first including system objects before I tried restoring to the test server. They both are the same hardware but when the restore complete I rebooted the server and now the keyboard and mouse won't work. Basically, does anyone have a good method of restoring a Win2k os. I know that an os restore is possible with win2003 and xp but what about win2k. The documentation seems to be very simple on this subject. Thanks ***EMAIL DISCLAIMER*** This email and any files transmitted with it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of th individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering the e-mail to the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify the sender or contact Health Information Management 312.413.4947. Joe Howell Shelter Insurance Companies Columbia, MO - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway - Enter today
Re: FW: OS/390 2.10 upgrade to TSM 5.2
We just upgraded from 5.1.8 to 5.2.2 on z/OS 1.4. No problems so far. I was pleasantly surprised to see how much of my database I got back after I ran the CLEANUP BACKUPGROUPS though. "Nancy R. Brizuela" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Hello, We are thinking of upgrading from TSM 5.1.8 to TSM 5.2, running on OS/390 V2.10. We are also planning to upgrade to Z/os 4.1 this summer. Has anyone running TSM 5.2 on OS/390 or Z/os run into any problems not encountered in 5.1? I am aware that I need to run CLEANUP BACKUPGROUPS before upgrading but didn't see any other conversation about this platform on the list. Thanks! Nancy Brizuela University of Wyoming IBM Systems Group Ivinson Room 238 (307)766-2958 Joe Howell Shelter Insurance Companies Columbia, MO - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want.
Re: Bare Metal Restore Intel
Generally what we do is: 1 - Build base W2K system from same service pack level as the system we're restoring, and use the same hostname and IP address 2 - Install TSM client 3 - Restore all drives and systemobject - Use "replace all" and do NOT reboot when prompted following the restore 4 - Boot from the W2K install CD and start the setup routine; select Install and then Repair - if Windows doesn't autodetect your SCSI or RAID card you'll need a diskette with the drivers and will need to watch for the "press the F6 key" prompt when setup starts. 5 - Let the setup routine redetect hardware and reinstall the system files 6 - Hope it worked. Generally this is not a problem but we've had some difficulties with AD systems that we've not quite worked out. Hope this helps. As always, your mileage may vary. Henrik Hansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello TSM'ers I know that a bare metal restore on a W2K system works fine as long as the restore is doen to a similar system, hardware vice. But do anyone know how to do the same to a system with different hardware? I've tried it but haven't succeded. The system don't boot but give me a system error. 1. Have anyone done such a restore to a diffrent hardware system? 2. Does anyone know if ITSM will support such in the future. I know that veritas have a product that accomplish this. Med Vdnlig Hdlsning/ Best Regards _ Henrik Hansson Joe Howell Shelter Insurance Companies Columbia, MO - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online
Re: Files bound to wrong mgtclass
Thanks for all the responses. In my case, the problem is definitely restricted to systemobjects. (Although I'm going to add the DIRMC statments to prevent problems in the future.) If I put an "include.systemobject mgtclass" into the optionset or into dsm.opt, is that going to override a "domain -systemobject" statement? Will it be honored by a scheduled "dsmc backup systemobject" command? My concern is that I had tons of performance problems when I was trying to backup the systemobjects as part of my nightly incremental backup runs, and I don't want to reintroduce that problem to fix another one. I'd like to keep the files and the systemobjects in separate processes if I can. Joe Howell Shelter Insurance Companies Columbia, MO - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it!
Files bound to wrong mgtclass
TSM server 5.1.8 on OS/390, TSM clients on Win2K at 5.2.0.1. I've got two management classes, call them "coloc" and "not_coloc"; "not_coloc" is the default. Using server-defined client optionsets, clients will have their files bound to one or the other management class using inclexcl options. For example, one optionset has an "include ?:\...\* coloc" statment and the other has "include ?:\...\* not_coloc". These option statements are assigned very high sequence numbers to make sure that they are at the bottom of the include list when the optionset is merged with the options in dsm.opt. So, as I understand things, all files on a client should be bound to one or the other management class. What I'm seeing, though, is that some files are being bound to the default management class, in our case "not_coloc", rather than to the management class that should be in the merged include/exclude list, "coloc". I suspect that what may be happening is this: because of the performance problems that TSM has with systemobject backups, I've put "domain -systemobject" statements into each client's dsm.opt file and then schedule separate incremental backups and systemobject backups. I think what may be happening is that the systemobject backups are not following the same rules for include/exclude statment merging and so are going to the default management class. Can anyone help me out here? Am I on the right track? Can I resolve this by (ugh) customizing each individual dsm.opt file with the appropriate include statement? FWIW I'm about to upgrade my server to 5.2.2, so I may not have to split out the systemobject backups any more, and that might eliminate this problem. Joe Howell Shelter Insurance Companies Columbia, MO - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it!
Re: Journaling Problem
Yes - I have the same problem. If I look in dsmsched.log there's no error, it just shows the last file backed up and ends. Dsmerror.log and jbberror.log don't have anything in them either. Generally I stop the scheduler service and then tsmjbbd.exe cranks for a few minutes and then settles down to normal ops. I don't see the problem every backup, maybe every 3-4 times at most. What version are you running? I'm running client 5.2.0.1. Win2K SP3. Sam Rudland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi all, I recently enabled journaling on a Windows 2000 box. I kicked off a regular incremental, which took a few hours, and then another one which started using the journal and completed in about twenty minutes which was great! However I am getting some weirdness when the incremental runs as part of a schedule. When I define the clientaction during the day the journal works fine, but when the schedule runs the backup seems to hang, the session timeout and then fail to re-establish. This has only started happening since journaling was turned on. Has anyone seen this sort of behaviour before? Thanks! Sam Rudland Joe Howell Shelter Insurance Companies Columbia, MO - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it!
Controlling license counts
I've bumped into the limit on the number of clients and am looking for ways to avoid purchasing more licenses until I have to. I have some redundant servers and have defined both as TSM clients but I only back one up; the other is authorized to restore files that belong to its twin. Is it possible in a Win2K environment to start TSM client 2 up with the nodename of client 1 and restore client 1's files without running afoul of Windows file permissions? Joe Howell Shelter Insurance Companies Columbia, MO - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it!
Re: Dwindling Performance
Andy - what kind of clients do you have? I've had problems with Windows clients all trying to do systemobject backups simultaneously and had to reorganize my nightly work to split out the systemobject backups from the regular files and then to serialize them because of contention problems with the TSM database. It's supposed to be better in 5.2 but I'm not there yet. Also, you may be right about the directory trees; if your stalls seem to happen at the beginning of the backups you can look at the cpu being used by the TSM BA client process and see if it's churning away. If so, that may be what's happening. Andy Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We are having terrible performance with one of our instances of TSM. I have suspicions, but I want to hear what you guys say. Here is what we have: 2 instances of TSM - TSMI and TSMU (TSMI is the problem) TSM 5.2.1.1 AIX 51.ML4 RS/6000 P670 - 8 processors, 16GB memory Fastt700 SAN STK9840 Tape drives The Database is 85% of 88GB (with room to expand another 50GB or so). Right at this moment, we have 233 sessions with TSMI. The backup sessions grind to a halt for hours at a time, with nothing apparently happening. I suspect that the directory trees are being downloaded and built, but not sure When we split TSMI and TSMU, we created the TSMU instance, and did a full backup on all the servers that moved there. The TSMI database is a restored copy of the original database, with the TSMU stuff deleted out. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Andy Carlson |\ _,,,---,,_ Senior Technical Specialist ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ BJC Health Care |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' St. Louis, Missouri '---''(_/--' `-'\_) Cat Pics: http://andyc.dyndns.org/animal.html Joe Howell Shelter Insurance Companies Columbia, MO - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes
Re: db snapshot to recover
Sure - it works great. My only caveat would be to make sure that your system is quiesced before you take the snapshot to avoid "fuzziness". There's a good writeup on doing the recovery in the Administrator's Guide. "Davidson, Becky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Can you use a db snapshot to recover a database in a dr situation? I can't think of why not but I would rather be safe then sorry. Thanks! Becky Davidson Data Manager EDS/Sara Lee Bakery Group voice: 314-259-7589 fax: 314-877-8589 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Joe Howell Shelter Insurance Companies Columbia, MO - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes
Conflict betw. TSM Jrnl service and TSRM?
Has anyone run into conflicts between Tivoli Storage Resource Manager and TSM on Win2K systems? I'm evaluating TSRM and have an agent installed on one of my Win2K file servers. This system runs TSM client 5.2.0 with the journal service enabled. For the past few days I've noted that the nightly backup process hangs; when I go to check things out I find that the journal service is chewing up some serious CPU and won't stop normally. The only thing I can think of is that TSRM is conflicting somehow. I've turned that guy off to see if it happens again tonight. Joe Howell Shelter Insurance Companies Columbia, MO - Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now
Re: NTFS Security on restores
The only "issues" that I can think of would be Windows ACLs and SIDs. Was the NT server upgraded to W2K3? Or was the data moved from one machine to another? If so, there may be a SID issue because you're laying down files on a different system. At any rate, there are documented MS caveats for copying files across filesystems; if you do so you generally lose the original ACLs and get new ones based upon the user that is doing the copying. So perhaps the new permissions on the W2K3 system are the same as the Administrator perms, or whoever the TSM client runs as. Bill Boyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have a client that migrated an NT server's data to a windows 2003 server. The NT data was backed up using a 5.1.6 client version to a TSM 5.1.6 server on AIX 5.1. The Windows2003 server restore was done using a 5.2.0.1 client. After the restore they saw that the original security permissions on the directories were not correct. They tell me that the NT server and Windows2003 server are in the same domain. On some of the directories, the user/groups were there, but the administrator wasn't, and on others the administrator was there but the user/group permissions weren't restored. Are there "issues" restoring across Window versions like this?? Bill Boyer "Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield." - ?? Joe Howell Shelter Insurance Companies Columbia, MO - Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now
Re: Fun with disaster recovery
So, even though I made my change a month or so ago, unless I had actually backed up the file(s) in question they could potentially be in the wrong mgtclass? The rebind wouldn't occur until the file was actually touched? Richard Sims <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>I'm at a DR exercise and have discovered that many of the files that we needed >recovered were in an unavailable primary storage pool. What seems to have >happened was that a few weeks prior to the exercise we reorganized into three >storage pools; one with a vaulted copy storage pool for servers that needed to >be recovered, and two that did not have a vaulted copy storage pool for servers >we didn't need to recover offsite. The default management class is in one of >the latter pools. For whatever reason it appears that many critical files are >in the default management class. What I did was to create three sets of client >options, each with an INCLEXCL option to assign all files to the appropriate >management class. The statements all look like "include ?:\...\* >mgmt_class_name" and the sequence number assigned to the option statement is the >highest in the list. I thought that this would 1) be the first include >statement evaluated by the client (it's on the TSM server) and 2) be globally >applied to all files on the client. It may be that your change was too recent and insufficiently thorough to meed the DR needs... Remember that files are not rebound unless the participate in a backup. The files you needed may be oldies in the original server storage pool. Another foible in stgpool reorganization plans is data-rich directories (e.g., Windows): they are too much to be kept solely in the server db, and so have to be in a stgpool; and the rule is that in the absence of DIRMc, they go with the management class with the longest retention - which some customers have found to be a mongrel MC they had hanging around in their definitions with no expectation that it would ever be used. Richard Sims, BU Joe Howell Shelter Insurance Companies Columbia, MO - Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now
Re: Fun with disaster recovery
If I understood correctly, client options sent by the server are evaluated before those in the dsm.opt file on the client. Also, the option with the highest sequence number would be at the bottom of the list. Ergo, if my global include were on the server and had the highest sequence number, it should be the first statement evaluated, correct? Alan Davenport <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The include/exclude statements are read from bottom to top. What you thought was first in the list was in reality, LAST. Al Alan Davenport Senior Storage Administrator Selective Insurance Co. of America [EMAIL PROTECTED] (973) 948-1306 -Original Message- From: Joe Howell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 9:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fun with disaster recovery I'm at a DR exercise and have discovered that many of the files that we needed recovered were in an unavailable primary storage pool. What seems to have happened was that a few weeks prior to the exercise we reorganized into three storage pools; one with a vaulted copy storage pool for servers that needed to be recovered, and two that did not have a vaulted copy storage pool for servers we didn't need to recover offsite. The default management class is in one of the latter pools. For whatever reason it appears that many critical files are in the default management class. What I did was to create three sets of client options, each with an INCLEXCL option to assign all files to the appropriate management class. The statements all look like "include ?:\...\* mgmt_class_name" and the sequence number assigned to the option statement is the highest in the list. I thought that this would 1) be the first include statement evaluated by the client (it's on the TSM server) and 2) be globally applied to all files on the client. Is the include statement correct? Is it possible that I've gotten burned because (maybe) all the files haven't rebound? Joe Howell Shelter Insurance Companies Columbia, MO - Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now Joe Howell Shelter Insurance Companies Columbia, MO - Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now
Fun with disaster recovery
I'm at a DR exercise and have discovered that many of the files that we needed recovered were in an unavailable primary storage pool. What seems to have happened was that a few weeks prior to the exercise we reorganized into three storage pools; one with a vaulted copy storage pool for servers that needed to be recovered, and two that did not have a vaulted copy storage pool for servers we didn't need to recover offsite. The default management class is in one of the latter pools. For whatever reason it appears that many critical files are in the default management class. What I did was to create three sets of client options, each with an INCLEXCL option to assign all files to the appropriate management class. The statements all look like "include ?:\...\* mgmt_class_name" and the sequence number assigned to the option statement is the highest in the list. I thought that this would 1) be the first include statement evaluated by the client (it's on the TSM server) and 2) be globally applied to all files on the client. Is the include statement correct? Is it possible that I've gotten burned because (maybe) all the files haven't rebound? Joe Howell Shelter Insurance Companies Columbia, MO - Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now
Re: Need experiences with TSM 5.2.x upgrade on z/OS
Thanks - what's the "garbage char." problem? Do you have an apar number? "Stumpf, Joachim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Joe, at the moment we are migrating from 5.1.6.3 to 5.2.1.1 (straight!). We had a performance issue which you can fix with a ZAP (APAR PQ80211). If you upgrade without doing the "cleanup backupgroups" on 5.1.7.3 (or later) first, the TSM-Server will do it itself after upgradedb. This process cannot be stopped and used a lot of CPU (before the ZAP). Now with the ZAP it ran between 30min and 45min. on our 16GB Databases. The 5.2.1.1 code seems to be stable but we have the garbage char. problem which will be fixed in I think 5.2.2! hope this helps, regards Joachim Stumpf - Original-Nachricht folgt - We're preparing to upgrade our TSM 5.1.6 server to 5.2.x. We run on z/OS and have seen the writeup on apar PQ80211. IBM recommends either coming up to TSM 5.1.7.3 and running CLEANUP BACKUPGROUPS prior to beginning the upgrade to 5.2.x, or upgrading straight to 5.2.1.3 (which doesn't seem to be available yet - don't you just love being on the edge?) to get the fix for the apar. There's also a zap available to fix the problem with CLEANUP BACKUPGROUPS. Has anyone been through this? What seems to be the cleanest way to deal with this issue? Joe Howell Shelter Insurance Companies Columbia, MO - Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard Joe Howell Shelter Insurance Companies Columbia, MO - Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard
Need experiences with TSM 5.2.x upgrade on z/OS
We're preparing to upgrade our TSM 5.1.6 server to 5.2.x. We run on z/OS and have seen the writeup on apar PQ80211. IBM recommends either coming up to TSM 5.1.7.3 and running CLEANUP BACKUPGROUPS prior to beginning the upgrade to 5.2.x, or upgrading straight to 5.2.1.3 (which doesn't seem to be available yet - don't you just love being on the edge?) to get the fix for the apar. There's also a zap available to fix the problem with CLEANUP BACKUPGROUPS. Has anyone been through this? What seems to be the cleanest way to deal with this issue? Joe Howell Shelter Insurance Companies Columbia, MO - Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard
Automatic script start at server startup?
Is it possible to have a TSM script kick off automatically when the server starts? I've got a situation where I'm running a 'copy stgpool' operation when my system gets IPL'ed (that's "reboot" to you Windows types...:) and I want the operation to be started up again without having to resort to telling the operators to key the command in. I know I can use external automation to do it but was wondering if there is a way to do it within TSM? Joe Howell Shelter Insurance Companies Columbia, MO - Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard
Running a script at TSM server startup
Is it possible to have TSM automagically run a script when the server first starts up? Joe Howell Shelter Insurance Companies Columbia, MO - Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears
Re: Matching node number to node name?
Thanks - I talked with support and they're going to send me some 'show' commands that I can run to find out what the problem is. I've not been able to pin down exactly what the node_name to node_number relationship is using the database (yet!). My concern is that some sort of global table lock is happening and that's causing problems for my backups. Richard Sims <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:... >ANRD IMFS(3570): ThreadId<6027> Lock conflict error in obtaining sLock for node >39, filespace 7 ... Joe - I regret that I haven't the knowledge to advise on getting the nodename from the number; but you may see nearby messages about a client session failing as a result, or the like. You may be able to compensate for this problem by reducing the simultaneity of sessions and processes, or by increasing server option RESOURCETimeout if it is rather small (the default in v5 is 60 minutes, boosted from its introductory value of 10 due to too many customer db contention problems). But this may be a product problem that you need to refer to TSM Support. Richard Sims, BU Joe Howell Shelter Insurance Companies Columbia, MO - Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search
Matching node number to node name?
I'm seeing a couple of messages in my activity log: ANR0538I A resource waiter has been aborted. ANRD IMFS(3570): ThreadId<6027> Lock conflict error in obtaining sLock for node 39, filespace 7 I see these several times during my backup cycle. I'm also seeing problems with throughput from many of my clients and the backups aren't completing. I'm guessing that there's a connection and that whatever contention is causing these messages to be generated is also preventing my backups from running. Unfortunately I don't have a node named "39" and I don't see a column name to contain a node_number in the database. Anybody know how I can figure out which client this is? TSM 5.1.5 on OS/390, all Win2K clients running TSM 5.1.6 or higher. Joe Howell Shelter Insurance Companies Columbia, MO - Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search
Re: How many volumes can I delete at once?
Thanks for the multiple answers - I had a feeling (the spousal unit is a DBA) that was going to be the answer. Oh, wellback to the wait queue. :) Ray Baughman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:I never delete more than one at a time. If I have multiple volumes to delete, I write a shell script to delete them one at time, using delete volume discarddata=y wait=yes. I've found this is the fastest way to delete multiple volumes even if the volumes are from different storage pools. Ray Baughman National Machinery LLC > -Original Message- > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > Joe Howell > Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 9:38 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: How many volumes can I delete at once? > > > I have to delete some volumes from a copy storage pool. I have > attempted to delete as many as four volumes at once (del vol > discarddata=yes) and had deadlock problems. How many volumes > should I expect to be able to process at once? TSM 5.1.5 on OS/390. > > > Joe Howell > Shelter Insurance Companies > Columbia, MO > > - > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search > Joe Howell Shelter Insurance Companies Columbia, MO - Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search
How many volumes can I delete at once?
I have to delete some volumes from a copy storage pool. I have attempted to delete as many as four volumes at once (del vol discarddata=yes) and had deadlock problems. How many volumes should I expect to be able to process at once? TSM 5.1.5 on OS/390. Joe Howell Shelter Insurance Companies Columbia, MO - Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search
Re: TSM Journalling Engine - experiences and MEMORYEFFICENTBACKUP needed?
Another thing that you should do is go into tsmjbbd.ini and set NotifyBufferSize to be a fairly large number. The default is 0x0010, or 1MB. That probably is not going to be large enough for your server. David McClelland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Hi Guys, I've been tinkering with the TSM Journaling engine for a few weeks now, and wonder if anyone has come across this before: TSM Server - Win2K Advanced Server SP3 - 2xPIII 1GB RAM - TSM Server 5.1.6.2 TSM Client - Win 2K Advanced Server SP3 - 4xPIV 4GB RAM - TSM Client 5.1.5.0 My TSM client is a file server, on its first full incremental backup (with journaling turned on) stowed away nearly 9 million files on the TSM server - a perfect candidate for the TSM journaling engine I thought. However, the tsmjbbd.exe process bombed just before the end with a 'DB Access Critical Thread Return code 215' type error, although the backup continued. Anyway, I net started the `TSM Journal Service` (I have preserveDB on exit switched on and observed by journal files to be around 1.5GB) and kicked off another incremental backup. The TSM server now begins sending its inventory for this node to the TSM client dsmc.exe process. I started watching it grow in Task Manager on the client in line with how much data was being sent from the server. Now, 9 million files, at an average of maybe 500K per TSM database entry equals roughly 4.5GB. Was TSM trying to send the *whole* 4.5GB inventory for this node to the dsmc.exe process on the client? Needless to say, at 2GB (I believe the limit that Win2K places on a single process) the TSM client had had enough and ended with an 'ANS1030E System ran out of memory. Process ended'. So, what shall I do - is MEMORYEFFICIENTBACKUP YES my only get out of jail card here, and exactly what does this do differently? Is my understanding above what is actually happening? I'd be most grateful to hear of anyone else's positive or negative experiences of using the Journaling Engine, as it seems just so *ideal* for some of our file servers, yet my experiences so far suggest it might not be as easy and robust as I would ideally like it to be (i.e. cancelled backups forcing restart of journal, process bombing out midway through backup etc.), especially as a full or normal incremental backup can run into days to complete... Many thanks, David McClelland Management Systems Integrator Global Management Systems Reuters 85 Fleet Street London EC4P 4AJ E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reuters Messaging [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- - Visit our Internet site at http://www.reuters.com Get closer to the financial markets with Reuters Messaging - for more information and to register, visit http://www.reuters.com/messaging Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Reuters Ltd. Joe Howell Shelter Insurance Companies Columbia, MO - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software
Help with query
I've got a collocated offsite copy storage pool and need to get a list of what nodes are represented on what volumes. The only way I know of is to issue a "select distinct node_name from volumeusage where volume_name=" but this seems inelegant and in any case takes a VERY, VERY long time. Is there a better way to get this information? Joe Howell Shelter Insurance Companies Columbia, MO - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software
Re: Help with query
Thanks Andy, that worked very well. Andrew Raibeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:I think that the VOLUMEUSAGE table is probably your best bet for this info. I'd suggest a query like this: select distinct volume_name, node_name from volumeusage where stgpool_name='POOLNAME' order by volume_name, node_name (substitute your copy storage pool name for POOLNAME). Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. "Good enough" is the enemy of excellence. Joe Howell Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" 08/11/2003 07:21 Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Help with query I've got a collocated offsite copy storage pool and need to get a list of what nodes are represented on what volumes. The only way I know of is to issue a "select distinct node_name from volumeusage where volume_name=" but this seems inelegant and in any case takes a VERY, VERY long time. Is there a better way to get this information? Joe Howell Shelter Insurance Companies Columbia, MO - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software Joe Howell Shelter Insurance Companies Columbia, MO - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software
Re: TSM Operation Reporting Email notification
I seem to have the same problem, only I'm trying to send the HTML report rather than text. I hadn't reported it yet because I wasn't sure that I wasn't the problem. :-) Are you running driver 7? Remco Post <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi all, I've setup TSM Operational Reporting to send me a text version of a daily report. Unfortunately, this mail never arrives. Other mail, like notification of a missed schedule does arrive, and also, the 'send email' option for the report works. I do see the text verion of the report in the working dir of TSM operation reporting, so I know it is generated. Has anybody managed to set this up? -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Remco Post SARA - Stichting Academisch Rekencentrum Amsterdam http://www.sara.nl High Performance Computing Tel. +31 20 592 8008 Fax. +31 20 668 3167 "I really didn't foresee the Internet. But then, neither did the computer industry. Not that that tells us very much of course - the computer industry didn't even foresee that the century was going to end." -- Douglas Adams Joe Howell Shelter Insurance Companies Columbia, MO - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software
Re: Notes/email backup and retention
This is essentially a legal question; I've been asked the same question and it's always because somebody wants to make sure that our tapes can't be subpoenaed in a lawsuit. The only way, as Mr. Sims so correctly pointed out, to make sure that the data is erased is by writing binary zeroes to the end of the volume. Alternately you can degauss the tape but this is not as complete a solution. Plus you have to reformat the tape after you're through. Joe Howell Shelter Insurance Companies Columbia, MO - Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!
Re: backup systemobject hanging on win2k
Thanks for everyone's replies - I spoke with TSM Support a little while ago and found out that indeed, the backup systemobject is redundant. Also that client 5.1.6 fixes a hang condition on clients doing multiple sessions, which I am; I think this will fix my problem. Henrik Wahlstedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Hello Joe and others, The problem might be that your w2k client doesnt 'tell' that the scheduled backup is complete when it contacts your TSM server, instead it starts another scheduled backup i.e. it loops. Probably, you cant locally backup system object either, client will crash. I dont recall the name of the security fix from MS that caused this problem, but we tried to uninstall the fix but that didnt solve the problem. In my case, I4m busy at the moment upgrading 250+ w2k servers to v.5.1.6.0. And the best part is... all security hotfixes will be in SP4 which will be released pretty soon. :D Andy -Do you this as a problem? Also, see previous threads this month about this. //Henrik Joe Howell YAHOO.COM> cc: (bcc: Henrik Wahlstedt) Sent by: Subject: backup systemobject hanging on win2k "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" RIST.EDU> 2003-06-26 15:25 Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" I'm running TSM 5.1.5 on OS/390 and backing up Win2K servers running the 5.1.5 client. I issue a "define clientaction nodename action=command object='dsmc backup systemobject'" from the server to each of my clients at the beginning of my backup cycle, followed by a "define clientaction nodename action=incremental" command. The first command gets scheduled right away, but it appears that in many cases the scheduled command takes hours to finish and get out of the way so that the incremental backup can begin. All I see in the server log is that the session times out and that eventually it reconnects and the schedule completes. I don't see any errors in the client log. Any ideas on what might be going on? I do see that the schedule prompter keeps bugging the client to start the incremental; is it possible that this is causing a problem for the client scheduler? Joe Howell Shelter Insurance Companies Columbia, MO - Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! --- The information contained in this message may be CONFIDENTIAL and is intended for the addressee only. Any unauthorised use, dissemination of the information or copying of this message is prohibited. If you are not the addressee, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete this message. Thank you.= Joe Howell Shelter Insurance Companies Columbia, MO - Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!
Is backup systemobject redundant on Win2K?
If I am doing an incremental backup of a Windows 2000 server client, is also performing a "backup systemobject" command redundant? My reading of the TSM Client reference leads me to believe that it is but I could use some reassurance. Joe Howell Shelter Insurance Companies Columbia, MO - Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!
backup systemobject hanging on win2k
I'm running TSM 5.1.5 on OS/390 and backing up Win2K servers running the 5.1.5 client. I issue a "define clientaction nodename action=command object='dsmc backup systemobject'" from the server to each of my clients at the beginning of my backup cycle, followed by a "define clientaction nodename action=incremental" command. The first command gets scheduled right away, but it appears that in many cases the scheduled command takes hours to finish and get out of the way so that the incremental backup can begin. All I see in the server log is that the session times out and that eventually it reconnects and the schedule completes. I don't see any errors in the client log. Any ideas on what might be going on? I do see that the schedule prompter keeps bugging the client to start the incremental; is it possible that this is causing a problem for the client scheduler? Joe Howell Shelter Insurance Companies Columbia, MO - Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!
Re: WIndows 2k server restore
Works well for us, assuming the same hardware. We generally restore all of the data on all the drives, then restore the sysobj, then reboot. Make sure that you're installing Windows into the same directory that you're restoring to, and that the computername is identical. Otherwise you'll run into NTFS permissions issues. You might also get some popups from Windows File Protection when you overlay the system files; just cancel past these. Tae Kim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Will be doing a full restore of a win2k box for DR testing tomorrow and was wondering if there are any gotchas... Here is the steps I will be taking 1. reinstall windows (setup the network driver and IP address etc.) 2. put in the service pack 3. install tsm client 4. restore c:\ 5. before reboot, restore system objects 6. reboot and restore the rest of the drives missed anything? Thanks for your input Tae - Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!
