?? TDP for DBs - does it support SQL Express?

2008-11-19 Thread Laughlin, Lisa
Good Morning!

I am looking in the various and sundry locations of documentation for
the TDP for DBs to see if it supports SQL Expressand can find
nothing.  Does anyone know if it works/ is supported?

thanks!
lisa 


Re: ?? TDP for DBs - does it support SQL Express?

2008-11-19 Thread Phillip Burgess
Hi Lisa
 
The only way I can think of would be to stop the SQL services and then backup 
the files up with the BA client. You may need to use an old version of the BA 
client though, as I've read reports that the 5.5 client excludes mdf and ldf 
files regardless of any includes in the dsm.opt file.
 
 
Phil
 



From: Laughlin, Lisa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed 19/11/2008 15:10
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] ?? TDP for DBs - does it support SQL Express?



Good Morning!

I am looking in the various and sundry locations of documentation for
the TDP for DBs to see if it supports SQL Expressand can find
nothing.  Does anyone know if it works/ is supported?

thanks!
lisa


Re: ?? TDP for DBs - does it support SQL Express?

2008-11-19 Thread Bill Boyer
The interesting thing about that I found is that if the SQLServer service is
running, the TSM client doesn't even see the MDF/LDF files for the active
databases. I mean they just plain don't show up in the list with little X's
that say they are excluded. You stop the service and the files are there.

Had a similar experience with the latest Oracle and their VSS component. But
they at least showed up in the QUERY INCLEXCL list as operating system.

Bill Boyer
DSS, Inc.

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Phillip Burgess
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Subject: Re: ?? TDP for DBs - does it support SQL Express?

Hi Lisa

The only way I can think of would be to stop the SQL services and then
backup the files up with the BA client. You may need to use an old version
of the BA client though, as I've read reports that the 5.5 client excludes
mdf and ldf files regardless of any includes in the dsm.opt file.


Phil




From: Laughlin, Lisa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed 19/11/2008 15:10
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] ?? TDP for DBs - does it support SQL Express?



Good Morning!

I am looking in the various and sundry locations of documentation for
the TDP for DBs to see if it supports SQL Expressand can find
nothing.  Does anyone know if it works/ is supported?

thanks!
lisa


Re: ?? TDP for DBs - does it support SQL Express?

2008-11-19 Thread Tyree, David
Not sure of all the functionality with SQL Express but what about
scheduling a DB dump within SQL Express and then letting the standard
TSM pick up the dumped files? 
Would be cheaper as well.


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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Bill Boyer
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 12:20 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] ?? TDP for DBs - does it support SQL Express?

The interesting thing about that I found is that if the SQLServer
service is
running, the TSM client doesn't even see the MDF/LDF files for the
active
databases. I mean they just plain don't show up in the list with little
X's
that say they are excluded. You stop the service and the files are
there.

Had a similar experience with the latest Oracle and their VSS component.
But
they at least showed up in the QUERY INCLEXCL list as operating
system.

Bill Boyer
DSS, Inc.

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Phillip Burgess
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 11:53 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: ?? TDP for DBs - does it support SQL Express?

Hi Lisa

The only way I can think of would be to stop the SQL services and then
backup the files up with the BA client. You may need to use an old
version
of the BA client though, as I've read reports that the 5.5 client
excludes
mdf and ldf files regardless of any includes in the dsm.opt file.


Phil




From: Laughlin, Lisa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed 19/11/2008 15:10
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] ?? TDP for DBs - does it support SQL Express?



Good Morning!

I am looking in the various and sundry locations of documentation for
the TDP for DBs to see if it supports SQL Expressand can find
nothing.  Does anyone know if it works/ is supported?

thanks!
lisa


Re: ?? TDP for DBs - does it support SQL Express?

2008-11-19 Thread Del Hoobler
Lisa,

Data Protection for SQL does not support SQL Server Express Edition.

Here are Hardware and Software requirements for
IBM Tivoli Storage Manager for Databases version 5.5.1

http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21297510

It supports Standard and Enterprise versions.

Thanks,

Del



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 Good Morning!

 I am looking in the various and sundry locations of documentation for
 the TDP for DBs to see if it supports SQL Expressand can find
 nothing.  Does anyone know if it works/ is supported?

 thanks!
 lisa


Re: ?? TDP for DBs - does it support SQL Express?

2008-11-19 Thread Laughlin, Lisa
Thank you all for your replies.

Hmm, this is starting to sound like a bummer.  The DBAs are using Oracle
ODI with SQL Express... in production ...for long term... from Teradata
data I was looking at the errors in the dsmerror.log from the
baclient.and began to wonder. and I made the mistake of asking
if they wanted to be able to recover if something happened to their
server.  

There is a maintenance job to export the db. And it is backed up.  I
think I'll just call it good and never mention it again ;-)

lisa 


-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Bill Boyer
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 11:20 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] ?? TDP for DBs - does it support SQL Express?

The interesting thing about that I found is that if the SQLServer
service is
running, the TSM client doesn't even see the MDF/LDF files for the
active
databases. I mean they just plain don't show up in the list with little
X's
that say they are excluded. You stop the service and the files are
there.

Had a similar experience with the latest Oracle and their VSS component.
But
they at least showed up in the QUERY INCLEXCL list as operating
system.

Bill Boyer
DSS, Inc.

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Phillip Burgess
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 11:53 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: ?? TDP for DBs - does it support SQL Express?

Hi Lisa

The only way I can think of would be to stop the SQL services and then
backup the files up with the BA client. You may need to use an old
version
of the BA client though, as I've read reports that the 5.5 client
excludes
mdf and ldf files regardless of any includes in the dsm.opt file.


Phil




From: Laughlin, Lisa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed 19/11/2008 15:10
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] ?? TDP for DBs - does it support SQL Express?



Good Morning!

I am looking in the various and sundry locations of documentation for
the TDP for DBs to see if it supports SQL Expressand can find
nothing.  Does anyone know if it works/ is supported?

thanks!
lisa