Re: AFS 3.6 butc deletedump

2001-02-21 Thread Kent L. Johnson

Matt,

Thanks for responding.

Actually, I'm embarassed to admit that the retention parameters in the
copygroup for the AFS policy set were retaining deleted data for a year.  So,
I would have had to wait a year before the AFS data was reclaimed from the
tape.  I've since updated the retention parameters, and the tape space has
been freed.

I did write a synchronization script for the buta backup data.  Unfortunately
the butc backup data is all written to a single filespace.  That is another
drawback to the butc dump implementation.  The only way that I have found to
see the backup data from TSM output is to execute a 'query occupancy' on each
tape in the AFS storage pool, and then search the output files for the backup
dump ids.  This is not a nice implementatoin.  The butc convention of
creating a filespace for each dump was much nicer.

I think that I am going to adopt the convention of creating a new TSM node
name with each level 0 backup.  That way, when the data is no longer needed,
I can simply remove all of the backup data for the node.

Are you using buta for AFS 3.6?  I didn't think that was supported.

- Kent


On Feb 21,  2:42pm, Matthew A. Bacchi wrote:
> Subject: Re:  AFS 3.6 butc deletedump
>
> >Is there a synchronization utility to force the synchonization of the TSM
> >data with the AFS backup database?
>
> Kent,
>   This is a good question, but I don't think there is.  I have used
BUTA
> for 1+ years now, and there is a sync option with the delbuta utility.
 When
> doing some testing with BUTC in the last six months I noticed there wasn't
a
> similar function.  I'm currently not using BUTC because the 'backup
> diskrestore' function doesn't work with BUTC on afs36, but this problem
could
> be a show stopper as well.  Anyway, I assume you have already read the
Release
> Notes
> 
>(http://www.transarc.com/Library/documentation/afs/3.6/unix/en_US/HTML/RelNotes/aurns002.htm)
>  which describe the new options when using the 'backup deletedump' command,
> such as -dbonly and -force.  You might also try writing you own
syncronization
> script, which would consult the AFS backup database, then do ADSM "delete
> filespace" commands for each dump that isn't in AFS anymore.  Or as a last
> resort, maybe you want to open a problem with support on this.
>
> Good luck, and let us know what you end up doing, I'd be interested.
>
> -Matt
>
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Re: AFS 3.6 butc deletedump

2001-02-21 Thread Matthew A. Bacchi

>Is there a synchronization utility to force the synchonization of the TSM
>data with the AFS backup database?

Kent,
This is a good question, but I don't think there is.  I have used BUTA 
for 1+ years now, and there is a sync option with the delbuta utility.  When 
doing some testing with BUTC in the last six months I noticed there wasn't a 
similar function.  I'm currently not using BUTC because the 'backup 
diskrestore' function doesn't work with BUTC on afs36, but this problem could 
be a show stopper as well.  Anyway, I assume you have already read the Release 
Notes
(http://www.transarc.com/Library/documentation/afs/3.6/unix/en_US/HTML/RelNotes/aurns002.htm)
 which describe the new options when using the 'backup deletedump' command, 
such as -dbonly and -force.  You might also try writing you own syncronization 
script, which would consult the AFS backup database, then do ADSM "delete 
filespace" commands for each dump that isn't in AFS anymore.  Or as a last 
resort, maybe you want to open a problem with support on this.

Good luck, and let us know what you end up doing, I'd be interested.

-Matt

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AFS 3.6 butc deletedump

2001-02-20 Thread Kent L. Johnson

I am using AFS with the XBSA (TSM) enabled version of butc.  I am running TSM
version 3, Release 7, Level 2.0 on AIX 4.3.2.

I have been running the deletdump command to delete the AFS backup database
dump entries and up till now, I have believed that the TSM data is being
deleted by this process.

I have watched the butc process write the following message for each deleted
volume:

o Tue Feb 20 11:49:49 2001: Deleted volume .backup (537211796)
in dumpID 972739995 from the backup server.

However, it appears that this has not actually been deleting the backup data
from the TSM server.

Is there a synchronization utility to force the synchonization of the TSM
data with the AFS backup database?

I am starting to become very concerned that I have a large (and growing)
collection of obsolete AFS data in the TSM server.

Thanks.

- Kent

PS Please reply directly to me, as well as the list.  There is a problem with
mail between the marist.edu  and the rpi.edu domain.


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