Re: ANR2033E Command failed - lock conflict

2015-07-07 Thread Gee, Norman
I have been running 4 streams in parallel against a single NAS server.  There 
are parameters within the NAS server that specified how many background tasks 
that can be started.  I use a single master script that in parallel start 4 
other scripts that run sequentially. I am not at 7.1.1.300 yet, but I am 
running 7.1.0.0.

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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Nick 
Marouf
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 7:22 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: ANR2033E Command failed - lock conflict

Hi Grant,

I've been interested in pursing NDMP backups in parallel, How does it work
overall?

Is this lock conflict something that you have experienced specifically with
the new version of tsm, and not with version 6.3?

Thanks,
-Nick


On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 12:41 AM, Grant Street grant.str...@al.com.au
wrote:

 Hi All

 We are running some NDMP backups in parallel using the PARALLEL
 functionality in a TSM script.

 Since moving to 7.1.1.300 from 6.3 we have noticed that we are getting

 ANR2033E BACKUP NODE: Command failed - lock conflict.

 Has anyone else seen this? or have some advice?

 We can't change it to a single stream as it will take close to a week in
 order to do the backup

 Thanks in advance

 Grant



ANR2033E Command failed - lock conflict

2015-07-07 Thread Grant Street

Hi All

We are running some NDMP backups in parallel using the PARALLEL
functionality in a TSM script.

Since moving to 7.1.1.300 from 6.3 we have noticed that we are getting

ANR2033E BACKUP NODE: Command failed - lock conflict.

Has anyone else seen this? or have some advice?

We can't change it to a single stream as it will take close to a week in
order to do the backup

Thanks in advance

Grant


Re: ANR2033E Command failed - lock conflict

2015-07-07 Thread Grant Street

Cheers

I might see if redoing the master script to spawn sub scripts will help

Grant


On 08/07/15 02:20, Gee, Norman wrote:

I have been running 4 streams in parallel against a single NAS server.  There 
are parameters within the NAS server that specified how many background tasks 
that can be started.  I use a single master script that in parallel start 4 
other scripts that run sequentially. I am not at 7.1.1.300 yet, but I am 
running 7.1.0.0.

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Nick 
Marouf
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 7:22 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: ANR2033E Command failed - lock conflict

Hi Grant,

I've been interested in pursing NDMP backups in parallel, How does it work
overall?

Is this lock conflict something that you have experienced specifically with
the new version of tsm, and not with version 6.3?

Thanks,
-Nick


On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 12:41 AM, Grant Street grant.str...@al.com.au
wrote:


Hi All

We are running some NDMP backups in parallel using the PARALLEL
functionality in a TSM script.

Since moving to 7.1.1.300 from 6.3 we have noticed that we are getting

ANR2033E BACKUP NODE: Command failed - lock conflict.

Has anyone else seen this? or have some advice?

We can't change it to a single stream as it will take close to a week in
order to do the backup

Thanks in advance

Grant



Re: ANR2033E Command failed - lock conflict

2015-07-07 Thread Grant Street

Hi Nick

It is a bit cumbersome to do parallel backups, but it does work.
Essentially you run a backup node process per NAS volume depending on
your NAS's definition of volume.
This is tricky when you have few volumes or volumes that vary greatly in
size. If you only have two volumes you can only ever create two streams.
If you have two volumes, one 100GB and one 1TB and you want to do a
backup storge pool after, you have to wait for the largest to finish.

We never saw it in 6.3 that we ran for 18 months or more. We have seen
it every time in 7.1.1.300. We have to keep retrying until it works.

Grant

On 08/07/15 00:22, Nick Marouf wrote:

Hi Grant,

I've been interested in pursing NDMP backups in parallel, How does it work
overall?

Is this lock conflict something that you have experienced specifically with
the new version of tsm, and not with version 6.3?

Thanks,
-Nick


On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 12:41 AM, Grant Street grant.str...@al.com.au
wrote:


Hi All

We are running some NDMP backups in parallel using the PARALLEL
functionality in a TSM script.

Since moving to 7.1.1.300 from 6.3 we have noticed that we are getting

ANR2033E BACKUP NODE: Command failed - lock conflict.

Has anyone else seen this? or have some advice?

We can't change it to a single stream as it will take close to a week in
order to do the backup

Thanks in advance

Grant



Re: ANR2033E Command failed - lock conflict

2015-07-07 Thread Grant Street

Sorry.. to clarify
If you only have two volumes you can only ever create a maximum of two
streams.

On 08/07/15 10:07, Grant Street wrote:

Hi Nick

It is a bit cumbersome to do parallel backups, but it does work.
Essentially you run a backup node process per NAS volume depending on
your NAS's definition of volume.
This is tricky when you have few volumes or volumes that vary greatly in
size. If you only have two volumes you can only ever create two streams.
If you have two volumes, one 100GB and one 1TB and you want to do a
backup storge pool after, you have to wait for the largest to finish.

We never saw it in 6.3 that we ran for 18 months or more. We have seen
it every time in 7.1.1.300. We have to keep retrying until it works.

Grant

On 08/07/15 00:22, Nick Marouf wrote:

Hi Grant,

I've been interested in pursing NDMP backups in parallel, How does it
work
overall?

Is this lock conflict something that you have experienced
specifically with
the new version of tsm, and not with version 6.3?

Thanks,
-Nick


On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 12:41 AM, Grant Street grant.str...@al.com.au
wrote:


Hi All

We are running some NDMP backups in parallel using the PARALLEL
functionality in a TSM script.

Since moving to 7.1.1.300 from 6.3 we have noticed that we are getting

ANR2033E BACKUP NODE: Command failed - lock conflict.

Has anyone else seen this? or have some advice?

We can't change it to a single stream as it will take close to a
week in
order to do the backup

Thanks in advance

Grant



Re: ANR2033E Command failed - lock conflict

2015-07-07 Thread Ron Delaware
Grant,

To tackle your problem of multiple backups at the same time you can carve
up your NAS server (as long as you are using volumes and directories and
NOT volumes and Trees) using virtualmountpoint

Using the virtualmountpoint option to identify a directory within a file
system provides a direct path to the files you want to back up, saving
processing time. It is more efficient to define a virtual mount point
within a file system than it is to define that file system using the
domain option, and then to use the exclude option in your include-exclude
options list to exclude the files that you do not want to back up.

Use the virtualmountpoint option to define virtual mount points for
multiple file systems, for local and remote file systems, and to define
more than one virtual mount point within the same file system. Virtual
mount points cannot be used in a file system handled by automounter.

You can use the virtualmountpoint option to back up unsupported file
systems, with certain limitations.

After you define a virtual mount point, you can specify the path and
directory name with the domain option in either the default client options
file or on the incremental command to include it for incremental backup
services. When you perform a backup or archive using the virtualmountpoint
option, the query filespace command lists the virtual mount point in its
response along with other file systems. Generally, directories that you
define as virtual mount points are treated as actual file systems and
require that the virtualmountpoint option is specified in the dsm.sys file
to restore or retrieve the data.

After the creation of your virtualmountpoints, you would create a NAS
datamover for each virtualmountpoint, and each NAS Datamover would be
assigned to a schedule (could be the same schedule or separate schedules).
This would allow you to have multiple backups of your NAS Server running
at the same time.  I have not used this configuration with the NAS
Appliance controlling the data storage pools, but this works fine when TSM
is setup to control the data (Normally called a 3-way setup). This allows
the NAS data to be treated that same as any other data that TSM manages,
sending it to disk storage pools, tape storage pools, making copies for
offsite requirements and such.


Best Regards,
_

email: ron.delaw...@us.ibm.com





From:   Grant Street grant.str...@al.com.au
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Date:   07/07/15 17:08
Subject:Re: [ADSM-L] ANR2033E Command failed - lock conflict
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Hi Nick

It is a bit cumbersome to do parallel backups, but it does work.
Essentially you run a backup node process per NAS volume depending on
your NAS's definition of volume.
This is tricky when you have few volumes or volumes that vary greatly in
size. If you only have two volumes you can only ever create two streams.
If you have two volumes, one 100GB and one 1TB and you want to do a
backup storge pool after, you have to wait for the largest to finish.

We never saw it in 6.3 that we ran for 18 months or more. We have seen
it every time in 7.1.1.300. We have to keep retrying until it works.

Grant

On 08/07/15 00:22, Nick Marouf wrote:
 Hi Grant,

 I've been interested in pursing NDMP backups in parallel, How does it
work
 overall?

 Is this lock conflict something that you have experienced specifically
with
 the new version of tsm, and not with version 6.3?

 Thanks,
 -Nick


 On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 12:41 AM, Grant Street grant.str...@al.com.au
 wrote:

 Hi All

 We are running some NDMP backups in parallel using the PARALLEL
 functionality in a TSM script.

 Since moving to 7.1.1.300 from 6.3 we have noticed that we are getting

 ANR2033E BACKUP NODE: Command failed - lock conflict.

 Has anyone else seen this? or have some advice?

 We can't change it to a single stream as it will take close to a week
in
 order to do the backup

 Thanks in advance

 Grant





Re: ANR2033E Command failed - lock conflict

2015-07-07 Thread Nick Marouf
Hi Grant,

I've been interested in pursing NDMP backups in parallel, How does it work
overall?

Is this lock conflict something that you have experienced specifically with
the new version of tsm, and not with version 6.3?

Thanks,
-Nick


On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 12:41 AM, Grant Street grant.str...@al.com.au
wrote:

 Hi All

 We are running some NDMP backups in parallel using the PARALLEL
 functionality in a TSM script.

 Since moving to 7.1.1.300 from 6.3 we have noticed that we are getting

 ANR2033E BACKUP NODE: Command failed - lock conflict.

 Has anyone else seen this? or have some advice?

 We can't change it to a single stream as it will take close to a week in
 order to do the backup

 Thanks in advance

 Grant