Re: AS/400 backup to TSM
Maybe this could help. Just saw this new draft redbook last week: http://publib-b.boulder.ibm.com/Redbooks.nsf/RedpieceAbstracts/sg247031.html Integrating Backup Recovery and Media Services and IBM Tivoli Storage Manager on iSeries Bill Boyer DSS, Inc. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Daniel Sparrman Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 6:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: AS/400 backup to TSM Hi Joe Thats correct. Only the "user data" can be backed up using BRMS and the TSM api. To backup all system-defined objects, you will still need to use a locally attached tape library/drive. We've also seen perfomance issues with this solution, as the BRMS and TSM api first backs up to disk, and then transfers the data to the TSM server. During testing, making backups to a locally attached LTO1 drive fast 7 times faster than transfering the data to the TSM server(which was based on AIX). I dont know what kind of library you are using, but another way of going at it is partitioning the library(if you're library has this option) so that the AS/400 can have it's own drives within the library. Best Regards Daniel Sparrman --- Daniel Sparrman Exist i Stockholm AB Propellervdgen 6B 183 62 TDBY Vdxel: 08 - 754 98 00 Mobil: 070 - 399 27 51 Joe Crnjanski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2003-11-10 18:35 Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:AS/400 backup to TSM Hi All, We have a potential AS/400 client. We are running TSM server on Win2000 5.1.8.0 I'm not as/400 guru; to be more precise I don't know anything about as/400. I downloaded Redbook "Practical Guide to Implementing TSM on AS400 sg245472" and try to get familiar with as/400. I know that we have to use tsm api for as/400 and that it works together with BRMS/400. Customer will help us to install it. Question that he asked me: " Is it possible to have all data backed up to TSM or we still have to use our tape backup". This Redbook refers to as/400 v4r3; and it says Operating system, system libraries, security objects, IBM supplied libraries and licensed programs CAN NOT be backed up to TSM; they can only be saved to local device (tape). So, we cannot fully recover as/400 system using only TSM. Does anybody knows if this is true, or something changed in newer versions. Joe Crnjanski Infinity Network Solutions Inc. Phone: 416-235-0931 x26 Fax: 416-235-0265 Web: www.infinitynetwork.com
Re: AS/400 backup to TSM
Hi Joe Thats correct. Only the "user data" can be backed up using BRMS and the TSM api. To backup all system-defined objects, you will still need to use a locally attached tape library/drive. We've also seen perfomance issues with this solution, as the BRMS and TSM api first backs up to disk, and then transfers the data to the TSM server. During testing, making backups to a locally attached LTO1 drive fast 7 times faster than transfering the data to the TSM server(which was based on AIX). I dont know what kind of library you are using, but another way of going at it is partitioning the library(if you're library has this option) so that the AS/400 can have it's own drives within the library. Best Regards Daniel Sparrman --- Daniel Sparrman Exist i Stockholm AB Propellervägen 6B 183 62 TÄBY Växel: 08 - 754 98 00 Mobil: 070 - 399 27 51 Joe Crnjanski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2003-11-10 18:35 Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:AS/400 backup to TSM Hi All, We have a potential AS/400 client. We are running TSM server on Win2000 5.1.8.0 I'm not as/400 guru; to be more precise I don't know anything about as/400. I downloaded Redbook "Practical Guide to Implementing TSM on AS400 sg245472" and try to get familiar with as/400. I know that we have to use tsm api for as/400 and that it works together with BRMS/400. Customer will help us to install it. Question that he asked me: " Is it possible to have all data backed up to TSM or we still have to use our tape backup". This Redbook refers to as/400 v4r3; and it says Operating system, system libraries, security objects, IBM supplied libraries and licensed programs CAN NOT be backed up to TSM; they can only be saved to local device (tape). So, we cannot fully recover as/400 system using only TSM. Does anybody knows if this is true, or something changed in newer versions. Joe Crnjanski Infinity Network Solutions Inc. Phone: 416-235-0931 x26 Fax: 416-235-0265 Web: www.infinitynetwork.com
AS/400 backup to TSM
Hi All, We have a potential AS/400 client. We are running TSM server on Win2000 5.1.8.0 I'm not as/400 guru; to be more precise I don't know anything about as/400. I downloaded Redbook "Practical Guide to Implementing TSM on AS400 sg245472" and try to get familiar with as/400. I know that we have to use tsm api for as/400 and that it works together with BRMS/400. Customer will help us to install it. Question that he asked me: " Is it possible to have all data backed up to TSM or we still have to use our tape backup". This Redbook refers to as/400 v4r3; and it says Operating system, system libraries, security objects, IBM supplied libraries and licensed programs CAN NOT be backed up to TSM; they can only be saved to local device (tape). So, we cannot fully recover as/400 system using only TSM. Does anybody knows if this is true, or something changed in newer versions. Joe Crnjanski Infinity Network Solutions Inc. Phone: 416-235-0931 x26 Fax: 416-235-0265 Web: www.infinitynetwork.com
Re: AS/400 Backup
You can use BRMS from IBM or RobotSave from Help Systems. You need the AS/400 API installed on the AS/400. We had two as/400 backing up to TSM both working but one was very slow (640 with 100mb card). The 830 w/gb ethernet is as fast as any other client that I have (11.3GB is 30 minutes). Not sure if this is the processor or the ethernet card since the 640 does not have a gig card. I think this just shows that if you through the hardware at it it will work but if you don't it is very slow. You must configure everything on the AS/400 side and you just register the node in TSM. -Original Message- From: Steve Firmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 6:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: AS/400 Backup BRMS is the client for the AS400. I have used it to back up 3 AS400s. I wasn't thrilled with it. You still have to use BRMS for your scheduling, retention periods, object selections, and etc. All you do is point BRMS to use TSM as the tape device. You still have to deal with the control groups and policies in BRMS. TSM does nothing but writes the data to tape. Stephen Firmes, Storage Management Specialist Articulent Inc. 45 South Street, Hopkinton, MA 01748 P: 508-497-2500/F: 508-497-3464 Please visit our web site at www.articulent.com -Original Message- From: Raul Giraldo Suarez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 8:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: AS/400 Backup Hi gurus. Our TSM server is an AIX 4.3. We have some AS/400 machines and we want back up them with our TSM server. Is it possible? Is there any As/400 client software for accomplish that backup ? Perhaps BRMS? Thanks in advance. Kindest regards Raul Giraldo Suarez. Bancolombia.
Re: AS/400 Backup
BRMS is the client for the AS400. I have used it to back up 3 AS400s. I wasn't thrilled with it. You still have to use BRMS for your scheduling, retention periods, object selections, and etc. All you do is point BRMS to use TSM as the tape device. You still have to deal with the control groups and policies in BRMS. TSM does nothing but writes the data to tape. Stephen Firmes, Storage Management Specialist Articulent Inc. 45 South Street, Hopkinton, MA 01748 P: 508-497-2500/F: 508-497-3464 Please visit our web site at www.articulent.com -Original Message- From: Raul Giraldo Suarez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 8:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: AS/400 Backup Hi gurus. Our TSM server is an AIX 4.3. We have some AS/400 machines and we want back up them with our TSM server. Is it possible? Is there any As/400 client software for accomplish that backup ? Perhaps BRMS? Thanks in advance. Kindest regards Raul Giraldo Suarez. Bancolombia.
AS/400 Backup
Hi gurus. Our TSM server is an AIX 4.3. We have some AS/400 machines and we want back up them with our TSM server. Is it possible? Is there any As/400 client software for accomplish that backup ? Perhaps BRMS? Thanks in advance. Kindest regards Raul Giraldo Suarez. Bancolombia.
