Re: Antwort: Re: Domino TDP leaves old databases, second try
Hi Holger, I think I now what is wrong. Acording to your first mail, you are only running schedules which perform archiving of transaction logs, inactivating this logs and regular selective backup of databases. And this is the problem. In order to inactivate deleted database backups you must run incremental backup of databases. You do not neet to run it very often but you must run it occasionaly. This is the only way how to inactivate backups of deleted databases. Hope this helps Ing. Jozef Zatko Login a.s. Dlha 2, Stupava tel.: (421) (2) 60252618 Holger Bitterlich [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11.07.2002 14:20 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Antwort: Re: Domino TDP leaves old databases, second try Hi Josef, this is the policy setting: Policy Domain Name NT_NOTES Policy Set Name ACTIVE Mgmt Class Name MC_NT_NOTES Copy Group Name STANDARD Versions Data Exists 5 Versions Data Deleted 1 Retain Extra Versions30 Retain Only Version 60 Copy Mode MODIFIED Copy Serialization SHRDYNAMIC Copy Frequency 0 In my opionion the last backuped file should go away at the 60th day after beeing deleted at Domino Server. But it does not ,... . Have you got an idea ? Thank you ! -- Holger Bitterlich Stadtsparkasse Kln Organisation und Datenverarbeitung Telefon: (0221) 226 - 54 18 Fax: (0221) 226- 51 00 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sk-koeln.de ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 11.07.2002 11:53:59: Hi Holger what is your policy settings for data from Domino server (copy group setting from management class under which is Domino data backuped)? Ing. Jozef Zatko Login a.s. Dlha 2, Stupava tel.: (421) (2) 60252618 Holger Bitterlich [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11.07.2002 09:15 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Domino TDP leaves old databases, second try I need your help! I posted the following, but Michael was the only one with ideas. But unfortunately that was no solution to my problem. So, has anybody an idea? Here `s the full story: Hi *sm`ers the amount of data pertaining our Lotus Domino Servers is enlarging enormous. The domino guys tell me that they can restore very old databases although the domino db`s are deleted a long time ago. When we try to restore such an old database which on the domino server has been deleted a long time ago, we still see the last version of this db. How can this happen ? Since we backup the transaction logs every hour there is a second problem. The transaction log backups are retained - no deletion happened ! Why is no Log inactivated ? We use TSM 3.7.3 on server side, and tsm 4.1.16 with TDP for Domino 1.1.2 on Client side. Our translog backup script looks like this: set domlogdir=c:\ssw\tivoli\tsm\log\online_nt_dom_tlog.log domdsmc arch /logfile=%domlogdir% domdsmc inactivate /logfile=%domlogdir% The log output is: Total Domino transaction log files ready for archive: 4 Total Domino transaction log files archived: 4 Throughput rate: 5,193.11 Kb/Sec Total bytes transferred: 268,439,552 Elapsed processing time: 50.48 Secs Tivoli Storage Manager Tivoli Data Protection for Lotus Domino - Version 1, Release 1, Level 2.0 (C) Copyright IBM Corporation 1999, 2001. All rights reserved. License file exists and contains valid license data. ACD5221I The C:\ssw\Tivoli\TSM\domino\domdsm.log log file has been pruned successfully. Number of Logs Inactivated: 0 The weekly online backup script is like that: set logdir=c:\ssw\tivoli\tsm\log\domdsm.log domdsmc selective * /subdir=yes /logfile=%domlogdir% %logdir% domdsmc inactivate /logfile=%domlogdir% %logdir% and the output reads like this: Total Domino databases inspected: 4,433 Total Domino databases backed up: 4,433 Total Domino databases excluded: 0 Throughput rate: 4,820.92 Kb/Sec Total bytes transferred: 99,557,318,730 Elapsed processing time: 20,167.09 Secs Tivoli Storage Manager Tivoli Data Protection for Lotus Domino - Version 1, Release 1, Level 2.0 (C) Copyright IBM Corporation 1999, 2001. All rights reserved. License file exists and contains valid license data. ACD5221I The c:\ssw\tivoli\tsm\log\domdsm.log log file has been pruned successfully. Number of Logs Inactivated: 0
Antwort: Re: Domino TDP leaves old databases, second try
Hi Josef, this is the policy setting: Policy Domain Name NT_NOTES Policy Set Name ACTIVE Mgmt Class Name MC_NT_NOTES Copy Group Name STANDARD Versions Data Exists 5 Versions Data Deleted 1 Retain Extra Versions30 Retain Only Version 60 Copy Mode MODIFIED Copy Serialization SHRDYNAMIC Copy Frequency 0 In my opionion the last backuped file should go away at the 60th day after beeing deleted at Domino Server. But it does not ,... . Have you got an idea ? Thank you ! -- Holger Bitterlich Stadtsparkasse Köln Organisation und Datenverarbeitung Telefon: (0221) 226 - 54 18 Fax: (0221) 226- 51 00 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sk-koeln.de ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 11.07.2002 11:53:59: Hi Holger what is your policy settings for data from Domino server (copy group setting from management class under which is Domino data backuped)? Ing. Jozef Zatko Login a.s. Dlha 2, Stupava tel.: (421) (2) 60252618 Holger Bitterlich [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11.07.2002 09:15 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Domino TDP leaves old databases, second try I need your help! I posted the following, but Michael was the only one with ideas. But unfortunately that was no solution to my problem. So, has anybody an idea? Here `s the full story: Hi *sm`ers the amount of data pertaining our Lotus Domino Servers is enlarging enormous. The domino guys tell me that they can restore very old databases although the domino db`s are deleted a long time ago. When we try to restore such an old database which on the domino server has been deleted a long time ago, we still see the last version of this db. How can this happen ? Since we backup the transaction logs every hour there is a second problem. The transaction log backups are retained - no deletion happened ! Why is no Log inactivated ? We use TSM 3.7.3 on server side, and tsm 4.1.16 with TDP for Domino 1.1.2 on Client side. Our translog backup script looks like this: set domlogdir=c:\ssw\tivoli\tsm\log\online_nt_dom_tlog.log domdsmc arch /logfile=%domlogdir% domdsmc inactivate /logfile=%domlogdir% The log output is: Total Domino transaction log files ready for archive: 4 Total Domino transaction log files archived: 4 Throughput rate: 5,193.11 Kb/Sec Total bytes transferred: 268,439,552 Elapsed processing time: 50.48 Secs Tivoli Storage Manager Tivoli Data Protection for Lotus Domino - Version 1, Release 1, Level 2.0 (C) Copyright IBM Corporation 1999, 2001. All rights reserved. License file exists and contains valid license data. ACD5221I The C:\ssw\Tivoli\TSM\domino\domdsm.log log file has been pruned successfully. Number of Logs Inactivated: 0 The weekly online backup script is like that: set logdir=c:\ssw\tivoli\tsm\log\domdsm.log domdsmc selective * /subdir=yes /logfile=%domlogdir% %logdir% domdsmc inactivate /logfile=%domlogdir% %logdir% and the output reads like this: Total Domino databases inspected: 4,433 Total Domino databases backed up: 4,433 Total Domino databases excluded: 0 Throughput rate: 4,820.92 Kb/Sec Total bytes transferred: 99,557,318,730 Elapsed processing time: 20,167.09 Secs Tivoli Storage Manager Tivoli Data Protection for Lotus Domino - Version 1, Release 1, Level 2.0 (C) Copyright IBM Corporation 1999, 2001. All rights reserved. License file exists and contains valid license data. ACD5221I The c:\ssw\tivoli\tsm\log\domdsm.log log file has been pruned successfully. Number of Logs Inactivated: 0 Thank you ! ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 09.07.2002 15:50:45: Hi Holger, with TDP for Lotus Domino every database is treated as if it was one filespace. On your TSM Server you can see this using q files nodename. Like with the ba-client TSM updates the filespace when you perform an incremental backup and otherwise leaves the filespace as it is. So when you stop backing up a certain filespace (=domino database), this filespaces active files (documents) will stay unchanged in TSM forever. When you want to discontinue backing up a database and you don't want to keep this db in TSM, just delete it using delete files nodename filespacename in the admin interface (dsmadmc). Good luck, regards, Michael -- Michael Bartl, Dipl. Inform. (FH) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Backup Services, IT Ops Germany/Austria Tel: +49-89-92699-806
