Re: Anyone using DPA?

2010-05-10 Thread John D. Schneider
Fred,
I would agree with Shawn.  I have worked with DPA, and other EMC
products, and also with IBM products for many years.  EMC often makes
good products, but assumes that you don't need good documentation.  They
will have all the manual titles you could ask for; Quick Start Guide,
Administrators Guide, Programmers Reference, etc. but the manuals will
have nothing but superficial overviews in them.  Nothing like what you
would find in the equivalent manuals for an IBM product.  The IBM
Manuals may take a long time to find your way through, but at least your
odds are much better of finding what you are looking for. 

On the other hand, EMC support will give you extra help when you ask for
it.  IBM Support is usually mainly about defect support.  They aren't
there to help you configure the product; if it is working as designed
then you are on your own.  EMC support, however, has often answered
how-to questions about configuration issues.  So perhaps they are trying
to make up for the lack of good manuals.

Best Regards,

John D. Schneider
The Computer Coaching Community, LLC
Office: (314) 635-5424 / Toll Free: (866) 796-9226
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Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Anyone using DPA?
From: Shawn Drew 
Date: Mon, May 10, 2010 3:49 pm
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU

We are using EBA/DPA We had a custom report running on EBA that didn't
work on DPA, so we are trying to get that worked out before we upgrade.
(DPA is being run in a test environment)

We've tested Aptare and Servergraph as well, and EMC's product fits our
particular environment better than the others. The main thing we do that
the others have trouble with is that we have multiple nodes per server
and
the others didn't handle this in the way that I wanted it. They just
handle them differently, not better or worse. You should evaluate this
for yourself.

My main problem with DPA is that there doesn't seem to be any advanced
documentation or training if you wanted to do anything above basic
reporting customization.
The Professional Services is the only way to do any advanced
customization. You could muddle around and figure out quite a bit by
yourself, but I wish there was some good documentation.

If you do purchase this, make sure and include a few days of PS and have
a
list of the custom reports you want.


Regards,
Shawn

Shawn Drew





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Re: Anyone using DPA?

2010-05-10 Thread Sami Ahomaa
Hi,


We are implementing DPA at the moment and I really have noticed
difference between IBM and EMC documentation. I thought that EMC
provides documents which are even close to those I have seen about
TSM... I was so wrong.

Our main difficultie is that you can't use collector in clustered
environment but you can use this "proxy" to collect some things from
TSM. But when you are using this proxy you don't get all that
information which you can have with collector. Like networker, you
just can't configure it like you can configure TSM and TSM-OR.


Reg,

Sami

2010/5/10 Shawn Drew :
> We are using EBA/DPA   We had a custom report running on EBA that didn't
> work on DPA, so we are trying to get that worked out before we upgrade.
> (DPA is being run in a test environment)
>
> We've tested Aptare and Servergraph as well, and EMC's product fits our
> particular environment better than the others.  The main thing we do that
> the others have trouble with is that we have multiple nodes per server and
> the others didn't handle this in the way that I wanted it.   They just
> handle them differently, not better or worse.  You should evaluate this
> for yourself.
>
> My main problem with DPA is that there doesn't seem to be any advanced
> documentation or training if you wanted to do anything above basic
> reporting customization.
> The Professional Services is the only way to do any advanced
> customization.   You could muddle around and figure out quite a bit by
> yourself, but I wish there was some good documentation.
>
> If you do purchase this, make sure and include a few days of PS and have a
> list of the custom reports you want.
>
>
> Regards,
> Shawn
> 
> Shawn Drew
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Re: Anyone using DPA?

2010-05-10 Thread Shawn Drew
We are using EBA/DPA   We had a custom report running on EBA that didn't
work on DPA, so we are trying to get that worked out before we upgrade.
(DPA is being run in a test environment)

We've tested Aptare and Servergraph as well, and EMC's product fits our
particular environment better than the others.  The main thing we do that
the others have trouble with is that we have multiple nodes per server and
the others didn't handle this in the way that I wanted it.   They just
handle them differently, not better or worse.  You should evaluate this
for yourself.

My main problem with DPA is that there doesn't seem to be any advanced
documentation or training if you wanted to do anything above basic
reporting customization.
The Professional Services is the only way to do any advanced
customization.   You could muddle around and figure out quite a bit by
yourself, but I wish there was some good documentation.

If you do purchase this, make sure and include a few days of PS and have a
list of the custom reports you want.


Regards,
Shawn

Shawn Drew





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Anyone using DPA?

2010-05-10 Thread Fred Johanson
I know this has been asked before (and not answered), but is there anyone out 
there using DPA from EMC?  Has anyone given it a close look?


Fred Johanson
TSM Administrator
University of Chicago

773-702-8464