Re: Archive recovery

2001-08-29 Thread Maurice van 't Loo

clever...

- Original Message -
From: David McClelland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 5:31 PM
Subject: Re: Archive recovery


 Jennifer,

 You can, if you're a) lucky and b) a bit naughty.

 We've achieved such feats in extreme circumstances in the past by building
 a second TSM server partition and restoring an old TSM database backup
from
 our main TSM server, and then trying to restore from that. If you're
 fortunate, the tape that the server will request the restore from,
although
 'expired' in the current database, will not have been written over with
 fresh data since then, and you'll be able to satisfy your restore. It
helps
 if you have a large number of scratchtapes and not too high a turnaround.

 Rgds,

 David McClelland
 ---
 Tivoli Storage Management Team
 IBM EMEA Technical Centre,
 Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



 Page, Jennifer [EMAIL PROTECTED]@VM.MARIST.EDU on 28-08-2001
 15:50:49

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 looked in archive list but did not find and answer, new to
 list..

 Can we restore data from a tape that has been deleted from the ADSM
 database, but we still have physical copy of?

 Thanks,
 Jennifer




Re: Archive recovery

2001-08-29 Thread Kelly J. Lipp

And you never want to tell anyone that you can do this.  If they know you
can they'll want you to.

Kelly J. Lipp
Storage Solutions Specialists, Inc.
PO Box 51313
Colorado Springs CO 80949-1313
(719) 531-5926
Fax: (240) 539-7175
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.storsol.com
www.storserver.com


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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Maurice van 't Loo
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 3:04 PM
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Subject: Re: Archive recovery


clever...

- Original Message -
From: David McClelland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 5:31 PM
Subject: Re: Archive recovery


 Jennifer,

 You can, if you're a) lucky and b) a bit naughty.

 We've achieved such feats in extreme circumstances in the past by building
 a second TSM server partition and restoring an old TSM database backup
from
 our main TSM server, and then trying to restore from that. If you're
 fortunate, the tape that the server will request the restore from,
although
 'expired' in the current database, will not have been written over with
 fresh data since then, and you'll be able to satisfy your restore. It
helps
 if you have a large number of scratchtapes and not too high a turnaround.

 Rgds,

 David McClelland
 ---
 Tivoli Storage Management Team
 IBM EMEA Technical Centre,
 Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



 Page, Jennifer [EMAIL PROTECTED]@VM.MARIST.EDU on 28-08-2001
 15:50:49

 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Sent by:  ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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 looked in archive list but did not find and answer, new to
 list..

 Can we restore data from a tape that has been deleted from the ADSM
 database, but we still have physical copy of?

 Thanks,
 Jennifer




Re: Archive recovery

2001-08-29 Thread Richard Sims

And you never want to tell anyone that you can do this.  If they know you
can they'll want you to.

On the other hand, letting the organization know that you, and only you, can
perform awesome feats can only help advance your salary.  Just be sure to thwart
requests for such feats by also advising that actually performing the feat will
be infeasible for the organization because of the costs involved - which they
hopefully won't associate with your salary and thus reduce it to make the
feat feasible.  Kinda sounds like a Simpsons episode.  :-$

  Richard Sims, BU



Re: Archive recovery

2001-08-29 Thread David McClelland

Richard,

 And you never want to tell anyone that you can do this.  If they know
you
 can they'll want you to.

 On the other hand, letting the organization know that you, and only you,
can
 perform awesome feats can only help advance your salary.

Hmm, this would normally be true, except that - I work for IBM! 'Nuff said
I think!
I'm sure fellow IBM'ers on this list will know what I mean... Only joking
:o)

 Just be sure to thwart
 requests for such feats by also advising that actually performing the
feat will
 be infeasible for the organization because of the costs involved - which
they
 hopefully won't associate with your salary and thus reduce it to make
the
 feat feasible.  Kinda sounds like a Simpsons episode.  :-$

Simpsons episode? Now that sounds more like the IBM that I work for! Once
again, only joking!

  Richard Sims, BU

David McClelland
---
Tivoli Storage Management Team
IBM EMEA Technical Centre,
Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Archive recovery

2001-08-28 Thread Page, Jennifer

looked in archive list but did not find and answer, new to
list..

Can we restore data from a tape that has been deleted from the ADSM
database, but we still have physical copy of?

Thanks,
Jennifer



Re: Archive recovery

2001-08-28 Thread Prather, Wanda

No.  To do that you would have to restore your TSM data base back to a time
when it still contained the pointers to that tape.

-Original Message-
From: Page, Jennifer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 10:51 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Archive recovery


looked in archive list but did not find and answer, new to
list..

Can we restore data from a tape that has been deleted from the ADSM
database, but we still have physical copy of?

Thanks,
Jennifer



Re: Archive recovery

2001-08-28 Thread David McClelland

Jennifer,

You can, if you're a) lucky and b) a bit naughty.

We've achieved such feats in extreme circumstances in the past by building
a second TSM server partition and restoring an old TSM database backup from
our main TSM server, and then trying to restore from that. If you're
fortunate, the tape that the server will request the restore from, although
'expired' in the current database, will not have been written over with
fresh data since then, and you'll be able to satisfy your restore. It helps
if you have a large number of scratchtapes and not too high a turnaround.

Rgds,

David McClelland
---
Tivoli Storage Management Team
IBM EMEA Technical Centre,
Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Page, Jennifer [EMAIL PROTECTED]@VM.MARIST.EDU on 28-08-2001
15:50:49

Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent by:  ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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cc:
Subject:  Archive recovery



looked in archive list but did not find and answer, new to
list..

Can we restore data from a tape that has been deleted from the ADSM
database, but we still have physical copy of?

Thanks,
Jennifer