Re: BMR Software
My name is Ray Schafer. I work at The Kernel Group (TKG) and have been a member of the Bare Metal Restore development team, and am currently a Sales Engineer specializing in the BMR product. I would like to respond to the list about some of the points that Richard Sims brought up. It is encouraging that The Kernel Group is the BMR vendor, given their track record in supporting AIX in conjunction with IBM. But I'm not encouraged by how far behind the curve TKG is in keeping BMR current. The product FAQ on the web site outlines all the basic things that BMR does not support; and that they still don't have Windows 2000 support, for this major OS, indicates that they are not devoting substantial resources to the product. (I get the impression that they're late on this because they've been a Unix company primarily.) You must realize that BMR is a complex piece of software. It automatically performs the tasks required to rebuild a machine from scratch. These tasks are obviously different on the different platforms, and each platform presents challenges for us to handle different types of devices (network and storage). Our focus on development has been to expand the breadth of BMR by porting it to the major platforms, and the depth of BMR by handling different types of devices per platform. We carefully analyzed the market to understand which platforms were the most important to support, and performed the work required to support those platforms in a relatively short period of time by anyone's standard. Far from being UNIX oriented, we recognize that NT support is important to our customers, and are focusing even more energy on that platform. Platform support is market driven. We focus on what customers need now. We found that Windows 2000 was not as much a priority for our customers, or potential customers. Right now, our customers are telling us that Windows 2000 is a small part of their production environment. Most people are planning on having more Win2k in production by mid year which is when we intend to have it available. Perhaps not surprisingly, we have more requests for NetWare than for Win2k. We are currently aggressively working on support for Windows 2000, and NetWare, and expect that work to be released some time in the second quarter this year. We have a huge commitment to BMR. We have a large team of talented developers that work hard on this product. As part owners of the company, we are committed to it's success. -- Ray Schafer |[EMAIL PROTECTED] |http://www.tkg.com The Kernel Group =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Core Confidence for E-Business TKG's Bare Metal Restore can re-build your machine from the ground up with a single command - using the data stored in TSM (ADSM) begin:vcard n:Schafer;Ray tel;cell:+1 512 426 3188 tel;fax:+1 512 433 3200 tel;work:+1 512 433 3300 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:www.tkg.com org:The Kernel Group;Serices version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Senior Sales Engineer adr;quoted-printable:;;1250 South Capital of Texas Highway=0D=0ABldg 3 Suite 601;Austin;Texas;78746;United States of America x-mozilla-cpt:;0 fn:Ray Schafer end:vcard
Re: BMR Software
Go download the DR redbook Could please give the full name of the Redbook you are refering to? Initial searches on the redbook web site didn't find anything. Thanks Rick
Re: BMR Software
Sorry for the vague post earlier. The Red Book number is SG24-4880. It's an oldie but goodie. Oddly enough (or maybe not), TKG called me after my original post on this subject and we are going to give this product another shot. I agree with you that Tivoli should have never dropped this capability. I think the bulk of the problems we experienced were due to the fact that we did not want the help of TKG to install this product, since we have to build this from the ground up at our recovery site and would like to have an intimate understanding of the product and how it is installed. First level support at TKG was pretty useless, yet they do have some very quality folks in 2nd tier support. To clarify, our server is run on AIX and we need to have a BMR process for our NT servers. It needs to be a quick and intuitive process, as we are only getting 3 days of testing time at our DR site. Hope this helped ... I'll keep all of you posted with our second go at this product ... Steve "Talafous, John G." To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Talafous@TIMcc: KEN.COM Subject: Re: BMR Software Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" [EMAIL PROTECTED] RIST.EDU 02/13/01 10:23 PM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" Steve, When did you use BMR? I understand NT support is rather new (and I am interested in this enhancement as well as existing platforms). Could you be more specific about when and what problems you encountered. Could you be more specific about your "NT in an AIX environment"? Did The Kernel Group provide support? What was your impression? Are you still using it? It's too bad that Tivoli dropped this concept and I am very glad that The Kernel Group has kept our hopes for this Disaster Recovery tool alive. Well, not only DR, but everyday recovery as well. ... just me $.02 John G. Talafous IS Technical Principal The Timken CompanyGlobal Software Support P.O. Box 6927 Data Management 1835 Dueber Ave. S.W. Phone: (330)-471-3390 Canton, Ohio USA 44706-0927 Fax : (330)-471-4034 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.timken.com -Original Message- From: Steve Hicks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 12:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: BMR Software It's awful. We had to rewrite 70% of the batch files to simply get the product to work with NT in an AIX environment. Go download the DR redbook and make your own process. It will work ... as opposed to this product. Alex Paschal AlexPaschal@FREIGHTTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] LINER.COM cc: Sent by: "ADSM: DistSubject: Re: BMR Software Stor Manager" [EMAIL PROTECTED] U 02/13/01 12:11 PM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" We're using it on AIX clients and planning to use it for Windows clients. It's really slick. Alex Paschal Storage Administrator Freightliner, LLC (503) 745-6850 phone/vmail -Original Message- From: Kleynerman, Arthur [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 6:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: BMR Software Hello everyone: Has anybody had any experience with the Kernel Group's BMR software? Any thoughts and/or comments would be appreciated. Thanks, Arthur. --- The information contained in this e-mail message, and any attachment thereto, is confidential and may not be disclosed without our express permission. If you are not the intended recipient or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this message in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message, or any attachment thereto, in whole or in part, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify us by telephone, fax or e-mail and delete the message and all of its attachments. Thank you. Every effort is made to keep our network free from viruses. You should, however, check this e-mail message, as well as any attachment thereto, for viruses. We take no responsibility and have no liability for any computer virus which may be transferred via this e-mail message.
BMR Software
Hello everyone: Has anybody had any experience with the Kernel Group's BMR software? Any thoughts and/or comments would be appreciated. Thanks, Arthur. --- The information contained in this e-mail message, and any attachment thereto, is confidential and may not be disclosed without our express permission. If you are not the intended recipient or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this message in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message, or any attachment thereto, in whole or in part, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify us by telephone, fax or e-mail and delete the message and all of its attachments. Thank you. Every effort is made to keep our network free from viruses. You should, however, check this e-mail message, as well as any attachment thereto, for viruses. We take no responsibility and have no liability for any computer virus which may be transferred via this e-mail message.
Re: BMR Software
Hi Arthur We looked at the software, and I have been following there progress, many people are impressed with the restore ability of there product, I am looking to have them come in to my company after we finish construction in a couple of months, there are a couple of emails that went back and forth (about a month ago) in this list service regarding how many people were satisfied with the product and impressed with the company. The following is the person that I spoke to last year, she is great and very informative, she will give you, or get you any answers that you have regarding the product in regards to your environment. Patti Dean The Kernel Group, Inc. 724-573-4414 724-573-4410 Fax Core confidence for e-business. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards Shawn D. King Data Protection Manager International Data Group 5 Speen Street Framingham, MA 01701 PH (508) 935-4391 "Kleynerman, Arthur" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 02/13/2001 09:04:32 AM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Shawn King/IDGCORP/IDG) Subject: BMR Software Hello everyone: Has anybody had any experience with the Kernel Group's BMR software? Any thoughts and/or comments would be appreciated. Thanks, Arthur. --- The information contained in this e-mail message, and any attachment thereto, is confidential and may not be disclosed without our express permission. If you are not the intended recipient or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this message in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message, or any attachment thereto, in whole or in part, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify us by telephone, fax or e-mail and delete the message and all of its attachments. Thank you. Every effort is made to keep our network free from viruses. You should, however, check this e-mail message, as well as any attachment thereto, for viruses. We take no responsibility and have no liability for any computer virus which may be transferred via this e-mail message.
Re: BMR Software
Hi Arthur, We are getting ready to test their software, but from what I have heard/read/seen, the software is quite impressive. Sean McNamara Senior Analyst PJM Interconnection, L.L.C. 955 Jefferson Ave Norristown, PA 19403 (610)666-4206 (610)666-4285 (fax) -Original Message- From: Kleynerman, Arthur [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 9:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: BMR Software Hello everyone: Has anybody had any experience with the Kernel Group's BMR software? Any thoughts and/or comments would be appreciated. Thanks, Arthur. --- The information contained in this e-mail message, and any attachment thereto, is confidential and may not be disclosed without our express permission. If you are not the intended recipient or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this message in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message, or any attachment thereto, in whole or in part, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify us by telephone, fax or e-mail and delete the message and all of its attachments. Thank you. Every effort is made to keep our network free from viruses. You should, however, check this e-mail message, as well as any attachment thereto, for viruses. We take no responsibility and have no liability for any computer virus which may be transferred via this e-mail message.
Re: BMR Software
Anyone have there URL ? Larry Way 408-743-4242 Desk 408-655-3512 Cell 408-743-4201 Fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/13/01 07:05AM Hi Arthur, We are getting ready to test their software, but from what I have heard/read/seen, the software is quite impressive. Sean McNamara Senior Analyst PJM Interconnection, L.L.C. 955 Jefferson Ave Norristown, PA 19403 (610)666-4206 (610)666-4285 (fax) -Original Message- From: Kleynerman, Arthur [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 9:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: BMR Software Hello everyone: Has anybody had any experience with the Kernel Group's BMR software? Any thoughts and/or comments would be appreciated. Thanks, Arthur. --- The information contained in this e-mail message, and any attachment thereto, is confidential and may not be disclosed without our express permission. If you are not the intended recipient or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this message in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message, or any attachment thereto, in whole or in part, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify us by telephone, fax or e-mail and delete the message and all of its attachments. Thank you. Every effort is made to keep our network free from viruses. You should, however, check this e-mail message, as well as any attachment thereto, for viruses. We take no responsibility and have no liability for any computer virus which may be transferred via this e-mail message.
Re: BMR Software
Anyone have there URL ? Their URL is http://www.tkg.com/products.html
Re: BMR Software
We're using it on AIX clients and planning to use it for Windows clients. It's really slick. Alex Paschal Storage Administrator Freightliner, LLC (503) 745-6850 phone/vmail -Original Message- From: Kleynerman, Arthur [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 6:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: BMR Software Hello everyone: Has anybody had any experience with the Kernel Group's BMR software? Any thoughts and/or comments would be appreciated. Thanks, Arthur. --- The information contained in this e-mail message, and any attachment thereto, is confidential and may not be disclosed without our express permission. If you are not the intended recipient or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this message in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message, or any attachment thereto, in whole or in part, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify us by telephone, fax or e-mail and delete the message and all of its attachments. Thank you. Every effort is made to keep our network free from viruses. You should, however, check this e-mail message, as well as any attachment thereto, for viruses. We take no responsibility and have no liability for any computer virus which may be transferred via this e-mail message.
Re: BMR Software
It's awful. We had to rewrite 70% of the batch files to simply get the product to work with NT in an AIX environment. Go download the DR redbook and make your own process. It will work ... as opposed to this product. Alex Paschal AlexPaschal@FREIGHTTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] LINER.COM cc: Sent by: "ADSM: DistSubject: Re: BMR Software Stor Manager" [EMAIL PROTECTED] U 02/13/01 12:11 PM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" We're using it on AIX clients and planning to use it for Windows clients. It's really slick. Alex Paschal Storage Administrator Freightliner, LLC (503) 745-6850 phone/vmail -Original Message- From: Kleynerman, Arthur [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 6:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: BMR Software Hello everyone: Has anybody had any experience with the Kernel Group's BMR software? Any thoughts and/or comments would be appreciated. Thanks, Arthur. --- The information contained in this e-mail message, and any attachment thereto, is confidential and may not be disclosed without our express permission. If you are not the intended recipient or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this message in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message, or any attachment thereto, in whole or in part, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify us by telephone, fax or e-mail and delete the message and all of its attachments. Thank you. Every effort is made to keep our network free from viruses. You should, however, check this e-mail message, as well as any attachment thereto, for viruses. We take no responsibility and have no liability for any computer virus which may be transferred via this e-mail message.
Re: BMR Software
We had a trial on our AIX systems and the product performs as advertised. We are currently waiting for the SUN (Veritas) version. Pete -Original Message- From: Kleynerman, Arthur [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 7:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: BMR Software Hello everyone: Has anybody had any experience with the Kernel Group's BMR software? Any thoughts and/or comments would be appreciated. Thanks, Arthur. --- The information contained in this e-mail message, and any attachment thereto, is confidential and may not be disclosed without our express permission. If you are not the intended recipient or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this message in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message, or any attachment thereto, in whole or in part, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify us by telephone, fax or e-mail and delete the message and all of its attachments. Thank you. Every effort is made to keep our network free from viruses. You should, however, check this e-mail message, as well as any attachment thereto, for viruses. We take no responsibility and have no liability for any computer virus which may be transferred via this e-mail message.
Re: BMR Software
Steve, When did you use BMR? I understand NT support is rather new (and I am interested in this enhancement as well as existing platforms). Could you be more specific about when and what problems you encountered. Could you be more specific about your "NT in an AIX environment"? Did The Kernel Group provide support? What was your impression? Are you still using it? It's too bad that Tivoli dropped this concept and I am very glad that The Kernel Group has kept our hopes for this Disaster Recovery tool alive. Well, not only DR, but everyday recovery as well. ... just me $.02 John G. Talafous IS Technical Principal The Timken CompanyGlobal Software Support P.O. Box 6927 Data Management 1835 Dueber Ave. S.W. Phone: (330)-471-3390 Canton, Ohio USA 44706-0927 Fax : (330)-471-4034 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.timken.com -Original Message- From: Steve Hicks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 12:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: BMR Software It's awful. We had to rewrite 70% of the batch files to simply get the product to work with NT in an AIX environment. Go download the DR redbook and make your own process. It will work ... as opposed to this product. Alex Paschal AlexPaschal@FREIGHTTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] LINER.COM cc: Sent by: "ADSM: DistSubject: Re: BMR Software Stor Manager" [EMAIL PROTECTED] U 02/13/01 12:11 PM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" We're using it on AIX clients and planning to use it for Windows clients. It's really slick. Alex Paschal Storage Administrator Freightliner, LLC (503) 745-6850 phone/vmail -Original Message- From: Kleynerman, Arthur [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 6:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: BMR Software Hello everyone: Has anybody had any experience with the Kernel Group's BMR software? Any thoughts and/or comments would be appreciated. Thanks, Arthur. --- The information contained in this e-mail message, and any attachment thereto, is confidential and may not be disclosed without our express permission. If you are not the intended recipient or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this message in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message, or any attachment thereto, in whole or in part, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify us by telephone, fax or e-mail and delete the message and all of its attachments. Thank you. Every effort is made to keep our network free from viruses. You should, however, check this e-mail message, as well as any attachment thereto, for viruses. We take no responsibility and have no liability for any computer virus which may be transferred via this e-mail message.
