Re: Backing up Active Directory server using TSM client

2016-11-08 Thread Storer, Raymond
I like using the built-in tools to perform system state backups to a remote 
location and then using the TSM client to backup those files to the TSM server.
For me, it meets two goals:
No third-party software on the domain controller
Guaranteed support from Microsoft (not "best effort") since I used their tools 
for backup and recovery
I do not suggest that TSM's system state backup of a domain controller doesn't 
work.  I just don't want even the possibility of a finger pointing contest when 
I need to recover Active Directory.

Ray Storer
NIBCO INC.
574.295.3457

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Subject: [ADSM-L] Backing up Active Directory server using TSM client

Is there any point in backing up an Active Directory server using the TSM 
client? Would a restore of Active Directory work? I have read conflicting views 
on this - some say it would not work yet others say it has worked for them, 
while others say that they use another tool to backup Active Directory and then 
use TSM to backup those backup files.





Thanks & Regards

Paul





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Re: Backing up Active Directory server using TSM client

2016-11-08 Thread Rick Adamson
Paul,
In my opinion the answer to this question varies relative to the size of the 
forest/domain. 

For example; if you are dealing with an environment with a small number of DC's 
and a single site then the potential need for recovery could be higher than a 
larger environment that spans many sites in different  regional/national/global 
locations.
In these larger sites when a domain controller fails it is generally easier to 
stand up a new member server and promote it to a DC as a replacement than to 
recover the failed one.

However, in smaller installations where there is one, or a small number of 
domain controllers, the risk for restore is higher as there is less, or no, 
redundancy.

In most all situations it's probably easier to automate the backup of AD, using 
your tool of choice, to local storage and then assure that it is included in 
the backup. 
It provides you more flexible options to recover AD, should the need arise, 
independent of the domain controller.


-Rick Adamson


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Matthew McGeary
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2016 9:13 AM
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Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Backing up Active Directory server using TSM client

I believe that TSM for VMWare is Active Directory aware and creates consistent 
snaps of virtualized DCs.

I've handed our AD guys VM backups of their DCs for a couple years now and they 
seem to be able to recover without much issue but I'm not an expert in AD or 
what their procedure is.

__
Matthew McGeary
Senior Technical Specialist - Infrastructure Management Services PotashCorp
T: (306) 933-8921
www.potashcorp.com


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Sent: Monday, November 07, 2016 10:18 PM
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Subject: [ADSM-L] Backing up Active Directory server using TSM client

Is there any point in backing up an Active Directory server using the TSM 
client? Would a restore of Active Directory work? I have read conflicting views 
on this - some say it would not work yet others say it has worked for them, 
while others say that they use another tool to backup Active Directory and then 
use TSM to backup those backup files.





Thanks & Regards

Paul





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Re: Backing up Active Directory server using TSM client

2016-11-08 Thread Matthew McGeary
I believe that TSM for VMWare is Active Directory aware and creates consistent 
snaps of virtualized DCs.

I've handed our AD guys VM backups of their DCs for a couple years now and they 
seem to be able to recover without much issue but I'm not an expert in AD or 
what their procedure is.

__
Matthew McGeary
Senior Technical Specialist - Infrastructure Management Services
PotashCorp
T: (306) 933-8921
www.potashcorp.com


-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of 
Paul_Dudley
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2016 10:18 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] Backing up Active Directory server using TSM client

Is there any point in backing up an Active Directory server using the TSM 
client? Would a restore of Active Directory work? I have read conflicting views 
on this - some say it would not work yet others say it has worked for them, 
while others say that they use another tool to backup Active Directory and then 
use TSM to backup those backup files.





Thanks & Regards

Paul





Paul Dudley

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Backing up Active Directory server using TSM client

2016-11-07 Thread Paul_Dudley
Is there any point in backing up an Active Directory server using the TSM 
client? Would a restore of Active Directory work? I have read conflicting views 
on this - some say it would not work yet others say it has worked for them, 
while others say that they use another tool to backup Active Directory and then 
use TSM to backup those backup files.





Thanks & Regards

Paul





Paul Dudley

IT Operations

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pdud...@anl.com.au








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