Re: Backup up ESX Host running Linux using Tivoli

2010-04-14 Thread Timothy Hughes

Thanks km, for your reply

Tim

km wrote:


Yes. (At least for ESX3, but I would guess v4 is the same.)

Use standard Linux excludes for temporary or in-memory filesystems and VMFS,
nothing else special about it.

-km

On 14/04, Timothy Hughes wrote:



yoda, thanks for your reply. I understand what your saying about not
backing up the host. However  if the client wants it backed up can we
use the Tivoli Linux client and if so is there anything special we would
need to do regarding the dsm.sys file? include/excludes?


yoda woya wrote:




There is not much to gain for backing up the host... just log files
and executable that could be installed from the esx media.  If you are
using
VI3, use VCB to backup VMs or installs the TSM client on each VM.  If you
are using vSphere 4, install TSM client on each vm or use the new Backup
API
that integrates with TSM

On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Timothy Hughes <
timothy.hug...@oit.state.nj.us> wrote:






Hi Richard thanks,

The Client would like a hybrid of that.they want all the ESX Hosts
backed up.  Entire server.   Also, they would like clients installed on
all the VMs and those backed up (so far, all Windows)

The ESX servers (HOSTs) are very small and would only require a full
backup once a week.  For the most part, these servers will not have VMs
(VMDK) files on them.  There ESX boxes are full ESX and have a Service
Console which would be the Linux client. Currently  3 servers will need
the linux client installed.

Thanks,   for the information regarding the Linux client install on ESX,
I will inform the client not sure if that will make a difference to them
or not .

Tim


Richard van Denzel wrote:

Hi Timothy,





What do you want to do? Backup Full-VM's (.VMDK files), or do a file
backup of the VM's.

In the Windows Client Guide (6.1/6.2) there is a chapter on how to backup
this using a proxy node. It is not advisable anymore to install a Linux
client in ESX because in the near future the service console of vSphere
will
be gone as are the VCB-tools.

Met vriendelijke groet, with kind regards,

Richard van Denzel.



Van: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager namens Timothy Hughes
Verzonden: ma 4/12/2010 5:23
Aan: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Onderwerp: [ADSM-L] Backup up ESX Host running Linux using Tivoli



Hi All,

We have a Client who has a ESX host  (OS: VMWare ESX vSphere 4)  running
a form of Red Hat Linux  (Linux VM) Can we use the normal Tivoli Linux
Client to back it the physical machine kernal  up if so anything special
we need to know especially as for as dsm.opt include/exclude statements?

2.6.18-128.ESX

If anyone can point to some specific documentation or link regarding
this feel free to add.

Thanks in advance!









Re: Backup up ESX Host running Linux using Tivoli

2010-04-14 Thread km
Yes. (At least for ESX3, but I would guess v4 is the same.)

Use standard Linux excludes for temporary or in-memory filesystems and VMFS,
nothing else special about it.

-km

On 14/04, Timothy Hughes wrote:
> yoda, thanks for your reply. I understand what your saying about not
> backing up the host. However  if the client wants it backed up can we
> use the Tivoli Linux client and if so is there anything special we would
> need to do regarding the dsm.sys file? include/excludes?
>
>
> yoda woya wrote:
>
> >There is not much to gain for backing up the host... just log files
> >and executable that could be installed from the esx media.  If you are
> >using
> >VI3, use VCB to backup VMs or installs the TSM client on each VM.  If you
> >are using vSphere 4, install TSM client on each vm or use the new Backup
> >API
> >that integrates with TSM
> >
> >On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Timothy Hughes <
> >timothy.hug...@oit.state.nj.us> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>Hi Richard thanks,
> >>
> >>The Client would like a hybrid of that.they want all the ESX Hosts
> >>backed up.  Entire server.   Also, they would like clients installed on
> >>all the VMs and those backed up (so far, all Windows)
> >>
> >>The ESX servers (HOSTs) are very small and would only require a full
> >>backup once a week.  For the most part, these servers will not have VMs
> >>(VMDK) files on them.  There ESX boxes are full ESX and have a Service
> >>Console which would be the Linux client. Currently  3 servers will need
> >>the linux client installed.
> >>
> >>Thanks,   for the information regarding the Linux client install on ESX,
> >>I will inform the client not sure if that will make a difference to them
> >>or not .
> >>
> >>Tim
> >>
> >>
> >>Richard van Denzel wrote:
> >>
> >>Hi Timothy,
> >>
> >>
> >>>What do you want to do? Backup Full-VM's (.VMDK files), or do a file
> >>>backup of the VM's.
> >>>
> >>>In the Windows Client Guide (6.1/6.2) there is a chapter on how to backup
> >>>this using a proxy node. It is not advisable anymore to install a Linux
> >>>client in ESX because in the near future the service console of vSphere
> >>>will
> >>>be gone as are the VCB-tools.
> >>>
> >>>Met vriendelijke groet, with kind regards,
> >>>
> >>>Richard van Denzel.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Van: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager namens Timothy Hughes
> >>>Verzonden: ma 4/12/2010 5:23
> >>>Aan: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> >>>Onderwerp: [ADSM-L] Backup up ESX Host running Linux using Tivoli
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Hi All,
> >>>
> >>>We have a Client who has a ESX host  (OS: VMWare ESX vSphere 4)  running
> >>>a form of Red Hat Linux  (Linux VM) Can we use the normal Tivoli Linux
> >>>Client to back it the physical machine kernal  up if so anything special
> >>>we need to know especially as for as dsm.opt include/exclude statements?
> >>>
> >>>2.6.18-128.ESX
> >>>
> >>>If anyone can point to some specific documentation or link regarding
> >>>this feel free to add.
> >>>
> >>>Thanks in advance!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>


Re: Backup up ESX Host running Linux using Tivoli

2010-04-14 Thread Timothy Hughes

yoda, thanks for your reply. I understand what your saying about not
backing up the host. However  if the client wants it backed up can we
use the Tivoli Linux client and if so is there anything special we would
need to do regarding the dsm.sys file? include/excludes?


yoda woya wrote:


There is not much to gain for backing up the host... just log files
and executable that could be installed from the esx media.  If you are using
VI3, use VCB to backup VMs or installs the TSM client on each VM.  If you
are using vSphere 4, install TSM client on each vm or use the new Backup API
that integrates with TSM

On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Timothy Hughes <
timothy.hug...@oit.state.nj.us> wrote:




Hi Richard thanks,

The Client would like a hybrid of that.they want all the ESX Hosts
backed up.  Entire server.   Also, they would like clients installed on
all the VMs and those backed up (so far, all Windows)

The ESX servers (HOSTs) are very small and would only require a full
backup once a week.  For the most part, these servers will not have VMs
(VMDK) files on them.  There ESX boxes are full ESX and have a Service
Console which would be the Linux client. Currently  3 servers will need
the linux client installed.

Thanks,   for the information regarding the Linux client install on ESX,
I will inform the client not sure if that will make a difference to them
or not .

Tim


Richard van Denzel wrote:

Hi Timothy,



What do you want to do? Backup Full-VM's (.VMDK files), or do a file
backup of the VM's.

In the Windows Client Guide (6.1/6.2) there is a chapter on how to backup
this using a proxy node. It is not advisable anymore to install a Linux
client in ESX because in the near future the service console of vSphere will
be gone as are the VCB-tools.

Met vriendelijke groet, with kind regards,

Richard van Denzel.



Van: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager namens Timothy Hughes
Verzonden: ma 4/12/2010 5:23
Aan: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Onderwerp: [ADSM-L] Backup up ESX Host running Linux using Tivoli



Hi All,

We have a Client who has a ESX host  (OS: VMWare ESX vSphere 4)  running
a form of Red Hat Linux  (Linux VM) Can we use the normal Tivoli Linux
Client to back it the physical machine kernal  up if so anything special
we need to know especially as for as dsm.opt include/exclude statements?

2.6.18-128.ESX

If anyone can point to some specific documentation or link regarding
this feel free to add.

Thanks in advance!







Re: Backup up ESX Host running Linux using Tivoli

2010-04-13 Thread yoda woya
There is not much to gain for backing up the host... just log files
and executable that could be installed from the esx media.  If you are using
VI3, use VCB to backup VMs or installs the TSM client on each VM.  If you
are using vSphere 4, install TSM client on each vm or use the new Backup API
that integrates with TSM

On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Timothy Hughes <
timothy.hug...@oit.state.nj.us> wrote:

> Hi Richard thanks,
>
> The Client would like a hybrid of that.they want all the ESX Hosts
> backed up.  Entire server.   Also, they would like clients installed on
> all the VMs and those backed up (so far, all Windows)
>
> The ESX servers (HOSTs) are very small and would only require a full
> backup once a week.  For the most part, these servers will not have VMs
> (VMDK) files on them.  There ESX boxes are full ESX and have a Service
> Console which would be the Linux client. Currently  3 servers will need
> the linux client installed.
>
> Thanks,   for the information regarding the Linux client install on ESX,
> I will inform the client not sure if that will make a difference to them
> or not .
>
> Tim
>
>
> Richard van Denzel wrote:
>
>  Hi Timothy,
>>
>> What do you want to do? Backup Full-VM's (.VMDK files), or do a file
>> backup of the VM's.
>>
>> In the Windows Client Guide (6.1/6.2) there is a chapter on how to backup
>> this using a proxy node. It is not advisable anymore to install a Linux
>> client in ESX because in the near future the service console of vSphere will
>> be gone as are the VCB-tools.
>>
>> Met vriendelijke groet, with kind regards,
>>
>> Richard van Denzel.
>>
>> ____________
>>
>> Van: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager namens Timothy Hughes
>> Verzonden: ma 4/12/2010 5:23
>> Aan: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
>> Onderwerp: [ADSM-L] Backup up ESX Host running Linux using Tivoli
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> We have a Client who has a ESX host  (OS: VMWare ESX vSphere 4)  running
>> a form of Red Hat Linux  (Linux VM) Can we use the normal Tivoli Linux
>> Client to back it the physical machine kernal  up if so anything special
>> we need to know especially as for as dsm.opt include/exclude statements?
>>
>> 2.6.18-128.ESX
>>
>> If anyone can point to some specific documentation or link regarding
>> this feel free to add.
>>
>> Thanks in advance!
>>
>>
>>


Re: Backup up ESX Host running Linux using Tivoli

2010-04-13 Thread Timothy Hughes

Hi Richard thanks,

The Client would like a hybrid of that.they want all the ESX Hosts
backed up.  Entire server.   Also, they would like clients installed on
all the VMs and those backed up (so far, all Windows)

The ESX servers (HOSTs) are very small and would only require a full
backup once a week.  For the most part, these servers will not have VMs
(VMDK) files on them.  There ESX boxes are full ESX and have a Service
Console which would be the Linux client. Currently  3 servers will need
the linux client installed.

Thanks,   for the information regarding the Linux client install on ESX,
I will inform the client not sure if that will make a difference to them
or not .

Tim

Richard van Denzel wrote:


Hi Timothy,

What do you want to do? Backup Full-VM's (.VMDK files), or do a file backup of 
the VM's.

In the Windows Client Guide (6.1/6.2) there is a chapter on how to backup this 
using a proxy node. It is not advisable anymore to install a Linux client in 
ESX because in the near future the service console of vSphere will be gone as 
are the VCB-tools.

Met vriendelijke groet, with kind regards,

Richard van Denzel.



Van: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager namens Timothy Hughes
Verzonden: ma 4/12/2010 5:23
Aan: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Onderwerp: [ADSM-L] Backup up ESX Host running Linux using Tivoli



Hi All,

We have a Client who has a ESX host  (OS: VMWare ESX vSphere 4)  running
a form of Red Hat Linux  (Linux VM) Can we use the normal Tivoli Linux
Client to back it the physical machine kernal  up if so anything special
we need to know especially as for as dsm.opt include/exclude statements?

2.6.18-128.ESX

If anyone can point to some specific documentation or link regarding
this feel free to add.

Thanks in advance!




Re: Backup up ESX Host running Linux using Tivoli

2010-04-13 Thread Richard van Denzel
Hi Timothy,
 
What do you want to do? Backup Full-VM's (.VMDK files), or do a file backup of 
the VM's.
 
In the Windows Client Guide (6.1/6.2) there is a chapter on how to backup this 
using a proxy node. It is not advisable anymore to install a Linux client in 
ESX because in the near future the service console of vSphere will be gone as 
are the VCB-tools.
 
Met vriendelijke groet, with kind regards,
 
Richard van Denzel.



Van: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager namens Timothy Hughes
Verzonden: ma 4/12/2010 5:23
Aan: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Onderwerp: [ADSM-L] Backup up ESX Host running Linux using Tivoli



Hi All,

We have a Client who has a ESX host  (OS: VMWare ESX vSphere 4)  running
a form of Red Hat Linux  (Linux VM) Can we use the normal Tivoli Linux
Client to back it the physical machine kernal  up if so anything special
we need to know especially as for as dsm.opt include/exclude statements?

2.6.18-128.ESX

If anyone can point to some specific documentation or link regarding
this feel free to add.

Thanks in advance!


Backup up ESX Host running Linux using Tivoli

2010-04-12 Thread Timothy Hughes

Hi All,

We have a Client who has a ESX host  (OS: VMWare ESX vSphere 4)  running
a form of Red Hat Linux  (Linux VM) Can we use the normal Tivoli Linux
Client to back it the physical machine kernal  up if so anything special
we need to know especially as for as dsm.opt include/exclude statements?

2.6.18-128.ESX

If anyone can point to some specific documentation or link regarding
this feel free to add.

Thanks in advance!