Re: Backups of Intel-based Macs

2006-03-17 Thread Aaron Becar
I am waiting to get my hands on some of those beauties!  I am excited to
see how TSM works and how it handles everything.

The new Intel Macs seem pretty impressive, and I know that we will not
be dissapointed.

>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/15 4:05 am >>>

Our initial attempts at trying 5.3.2.1 on the Intel Macs were good,

but we then ran into some problems.  As there is no support from IBM,

I am nervous about relying on it.


At 08:38 PM 3/14/2006, you wrote:

>On Mar 14, 2006, at 4:44 PM, Paul Zarnowski wrote:

>

>>Intel Macs are starting to show up on our campus and we are being

>>asked how to back them up.  What are other TSM sites doing to backup

>>these new beasties?  TSM doesn't support Intel-based Macs yet.

>

>Hi, Paul - Good question...

>

>I recently got one of the new iMac's as a media storage and feeder

>for my family room (connecting it to my A/V receiver via optical

>audio and S-video). Wonderful machine.

>

>Reading your posting, and Aaron's response about depending upon

>Rosetta, I decided to try installing a TSM client (5.2.4). An

>awkwardness is that the download file is in .hqx format: PowerPC Macs

>are shipped with Stuffit Expander to handle that stuff, but the new

>Macs are Intel, so it appears that Apple feels it inappropriate to

>ship a non-PowerPC binary. I got SE off the net and installed it, and

>it worked fine to generate the TSM installer, which I then ran to

>install the TSM client. And the client itself ran fine, as I tried

>some basic Archive and Backup operations. Apple's Rosetta is

>excellent, as was promised.

>

>I would suggest having one of your eager adopters go ahead and give

>an existing TSM client level a full workout, with a new nodename.

>Have them report back on general functionality and speed.

>

>   Richard Sims  long time Mac guy (why settle for mediocrity?)



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Re: Backups of Intel-based Macs

2006-03-15 Thread Richard Sims

On Mar 15, 2006, at 1:26 PM, Bob Talda wrote:


I was interested, Richard, that you chose to use 5.2.4.  Was there a
reason why?  Or was it just happenstance?  (It might be a fallback for
us to try as well)


Bob -

I chose that because we're running a late 5.2 TSM server and I
generally try to avoid having a client level exceed server level.
Because of the inordinate number of problems with TSM 5.3, we're
going to stick with 5.2 until IBM can sort out the many problems and
deliver a stable, reliable TSM above 5.2.

It was thus my expectation that the latest 5.2 level would be a good
test basis candidate for the Rosetta test. I don't have time to test
it exhaustively, so can't testify to its endurance, except to say
that I had no problems as far as I went.

   Richard


Re: Backups of Intel-based Macs

2006-03-15 Thread Bob Talda

Just a little more detail on "initial good, then ran into some problems"...

We were working with the local team designated to figure out what Cornell
services did, and didn't work, on Intel-Macs.  The team was composed of
experienced Apple developers and users.

- One developer was able to install 5.3.2.0, and then 5.3.2.1 without
problems, and run a backup manually using the Backup for Administrators
application; he was able to configure and start a Client Acceptor Daemon,
but was never able to get a scheduled backup to work

- Another developer started with 5.2.3.x, but couldn't get that to install
properly (lots of permission issues, etc), so he switched to 5.3.2.1,
which installed fine, and permitted manual backups;  in his case, when
he tried to run the Client Acceptor Daemon, it ate up most of his processor.

- A user had problems installing the client that we just traced to a
permissions issue (it was a complex environment, managed from a
central AD server, but, still)...the jury is out on how this will work

Attempts to debug the CAD issues via IBM were met by "we don't
support that version of the client on that platform".

We are continuing on our own, since we have more of these beasties
showing up everyday on campus.

I was interested, Richard, that you chose to use 5.2.4.  Was there a
reason why?  Or was it just happenstance?  (It might be a fallback for
us to try as well)

At 09:35 AM 3/15/2006, Paul Zarnowski wrote:

Our initial attempts at trying 5.3.2.1 on the Intel Macs were good,
but we then ran into some problems.  As there is no support from IBM,
I am nervous about relying on it.

At 08:38 PM 3/14/2006, you wrote:

On Mar 14, 2006, at 4:44 PM, Paul Zarnowski wrote:


Intel Macs are starting to show up on our campus and we are being
asked how to back them up.  What are other TSM sites doing to backup
these new beasties?  TSM doesn't support Intel-based Macs yet.


Hi, Paul - Good question...

I recently got one of the new iMac's as a media storage and feeder
for my family room (connecting it to my A/V receiver via optical
audio and S-video). Wonderful machine.

Reading your posting, and Aaron's response about depending upon
Rosetta, I decided to try installing a TSM client (5.2.4). An
awkwardness is that the download file is in .hqx format: PowerPC Macs
are shipped with Stuffit Expander to handle that stuff, but the new
Macs are Intel, so it appears that Apple feels it inappropriate to
ship a non-PowerPC binary. I got SE off the net and installed it, and
it worked fine to generate the TSM installer, which I then ran to
install the TSM client. And the client itself ran fine, as I tried
some basic Archive and Backup operations. Apple's Rosetta is
excellent, as was promised.

I would suggest having one of your "eager adopters" go ahead and give
an existing TSM client level a full workout, with a new nodename.
Have them report back on general functionality and speed.

   Richard Sims  long time Mac guy (why settle for mediocrity?)



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Manager, Storage Systems  Fx: 607-255-8521
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Re: Backups of Intel-based Macs

2006-03-15 Thread Paul Zarnowski

Our initial attempts at trying 5.3.2.1 on the Intel Macs were good,
but we then ran into some problems.  As there is no support from IBM,
I am nervous about relying on it.

At 08:38 PM 3/14/2006, you wrote:

On Mar 14, 2006, at 4:44 PM, Paul Zarnowski wrote:


Intel Macs are starting to show up on our campus and we are being
asked how to back them up.  What are other TSM sites doing to backup
these new beasties?  TSM doesn't support Intel-based Macs yet.


Hi, Paul - Good question...

I recently got one of the new iMac's as a media storage and feeder
for my family room (connecting it to my A/V receiver via optical
audio and S-video). Wonderful machine.

Reading your posting, and Aaron's response about depending upon
Rosetta, I decided to try installing a TSM client (5.2.4). An
awkwardness is that the download file is in .hqx format: PowerPC Macs
are shipped with Stuffit Expander to handle that stuff, but the new
Macs are Intel, so it appears that Apple feels it inappropriate to
ship a non-PowerPC binary. I got SE off the net and installed it, and
it worked fine to generate the TSM installer, which I then ran to
install the TSM client. And the client itself ran fine, as I tried
some basic Archive and Backup operations. Apple's Rosetta is
excellent, as was promised.

I would suggest having one of your "eager adopters" go ahead and give
an existing TSM client level a full workout, with a new nodename.
Have them report back on general functionality and speed.

   Richard Sims  long time Mac guy (why settle for mediocrity?)



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Paul ZarnowskiPh: 607-255-4757
Manager, Storage Systems  Fx: 607-255-8521
719 Rhodes Hall, Ithaca, NY 14853-3801Em: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Backups of Intel-based Macs

2006-03-14 Thread Richard Sims

On Mar 14, 2006, at 4:44 PM, Paul Zarnowski wrote:


Intel Macs are starting to show up on our campus and we are being
asked how to back them up.  What are other TSM sites doing to backup
these new beasties?  TSM doesn't support Intel-based Macs yet.


Hi, Paul - Good question...

I recently got one of the new iMac's as a media storage and feeder
for my family room (connecting it to my A/V receiver via optical
audio and S-video). Wonderful machine.

Reading your posting, and Aaron's response about depending upon
Rosetta, I decided to try installing a TSM client (5.2.4). An
awkwardness is that the download file is in .hqx format: PowerPC Macs
are shipped with Stuffit Expander to handle that stuff, but the new
Macs are Intel, so it appears that Apple feels it inappropriate to
ship a non-PowerPC binary. I got SE off the net and installed it, and
it worked fine to generate the TSM installer, which I then ran to
install the TSM client. And the client itself ran fine, as I tried
some basic Archive and Backup operations. Apple's Rosetta is
excellent, as was promised.

I would suggest having one of your "eager adopters" go ahead and give
an existing TSM client level a full workout, with a new nodename.
Have them report back on general functionality and speed.

   Richard Sims  long time Mac guy (why settle for mediocrity?)


Re: Backups of Intel-based Macs

2006-03-14 Thread Aaron Becar
Does Rosetta work?

>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/14 11:14 am >>>

Intel Macs are starting to show up on our campus and we are being

asked how to back them up.  What are other TSM sites doing to backup

these new beasties?  TSM doesn't support Intel-based Macs yet.


..Paul



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Paul ZarnowskiPh: 607-255-4757

Manager, Storage Systems  Fx: 607-255-8521

719 Rhodes Hall, Ithaca, NY 14853-3801Em: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Backups of Intel-based Macs

2006-03-14 Thread Paul Zarnowski

Intel Macs are starting to show up on our campus and we are being
asked how to back them up.  What are other TSM sites doing to backup
these new beasties?  TSM doesn't support Intel-based Macs yet.

..Paul


--
Paul ZarnowskiPh: 607-255-4757
Manager, Storage Systems  Fx: 607-255-8521
719 Rhodes Hall, Ithaca, NY 14853-3801Em: [EMAIL PROTECTED]