Re: Computer Associates - Brightstore Resource Manager for TSM
On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 09:13:38PM -0600, Mark Stapleton wrote: Example of dumb programming: the marketing rep will neglect to tell you that CA UniCenter (their network and system management piece) uses UDP packets, instead of TCP. What does that mean? It means that there has to be a UniCenter server install for every segment of your network, because UDP packets can't be sent through a router. UDP packets can be routed just as well as TCP packets, so that statement is FUD and NOT true. But CA UniCenter is still an unbeliveable inferior product none the less. -- Best Regards Emil S. Hansen - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ESH14-DK UNIX Administrator, Berlingske IT - www.bit.dk PGP: 109375FA/ABEB 1EFA A764 529E 82B5 0943 AD3B 1FC2 1093 75FA
Re: Computer Associates - Brightstore Resource Manager for TSM
--Folks, CA Brightstor was implemented at my site but only for a while before I had to make 180 deg. turn to go back to TSM. If you need more info, please send me an e-mail and I'd be glad to answer your questions. Prasanna Ghanekar EDS On Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:58:50 Lisa Cabanas wrote: FWIW, a little while ago, a CA tech person was onsite for two days with the operators here (unbeknownst to me, like the TSM admin should know, anyway...) checking out our operation and set up. Guess what-- he ended up calling the sales rep that was coming, to tell him not to bother with the sales pitch for Brightstor, it wouldn't do anything for us. The only thing storage wise they ended up pitching was a Storage Area Network manager product-- but the gotcha there was that it was how the product was supposed to work-- it wasn't actually shrink-wrapped at this point in time;-) Mr. Lindsay Morris To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] lmorris@server cc: graph.comSubject: Re: Computer Associates - Brightstore Resource Manager for Sent by: ADSM:TSM Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] ST.EDU 10/29/2002 12:35 PM Please respond to lmorris CA seems to buy tools / companies and market them like crazy, but not put any energy into improving or supporting them. I'd be interested in hearing your take on what features this product has, and what it costs. - Mr. Lindsay Morris Lead Architect, Servergraph www.servergraph.com 859-253-8000 ofc 425-988-8478 fax -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L;VM.MARIST.EDU]On Behalf Of Jim Taylor Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 1:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Computer Associates - Brightstore Resource Manager for TSM Anyone out there heard of this CA product and have any experience with it. We have just been bought out by a large company that has bought into CA tools, big time. They want me to look at this CA component that was written for TSM. My question is ' will it provide me with anything of value'? Skeptically yours, Jim Taylor Technology Services Enlogix * E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Office: (416) 496-5266 * Cell: (416)458-6802 * Fax: (416) 496-5245 __ Outgrown your current e-mail service? Get 25MB Storage, POP3 Access, Advanced Spam protection with LYCOS MAIL PLUS. http://login.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plusref=lmtplus
Computer Associates - Brightstore Resource Manager for TSM
Anyone out there heard of this CA product and have any experience with it. We have just been bought out by a large company that has bought into CA tools, big time. They want me to look at this CA component that was written for TSM. My question is ' will it provide me with anything of value'? Skeptically yours, Jim Taylor Technology Services Enlogix * E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Office: (416) 496-5266 * Cell: (416)458-6802 * Fax: (416) 496-5245
Re: Computer Associates - Brightstore Resource Manager for TSM
CA seems to buy tools / companies and market them like crazy, but not put any energy into improving or supporting them. I'd be interested in hearing your take on what features this product has, and what it costs. - Mr. Lindsay Morris Lead Architect, Servergraph www.servergraph.com 859-253-8000 ofc 425-988-8478 fax -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L;VM.MARIST.EDU]On Behalf Of Jim Taylor Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 1:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Computer Associates - Brightstore Resource Manager for TSM Anyone out there heard of this CA product and have any experience with it. We have just been bought out by a large company that has bought into CA tools, big time. They want me to look at this CA component that was written for TSM. My question is ' will it provide me with anything of value'? Skeptically yours, Jim Taylor Technology Services Enlogix * E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Office: (416) 496-5266 * Cell: (416)458-6802 * Fax: (416) 496-5245
Re: Computer Associates - Brightstore Resource Manager for TSM
FWIW, a little while ago, a CA tech person was onsite for two days with the operators here (unbeknownst to me, like the TSM admin should know, anyway...) checking out our operation and set up. Guess what-- he ended up calling the sales rep that was coming, to tell him not to bother with the sales pitch for Brightstor, it wouldn't do anything for us. The only thing storage wise they ended up pitching was a Storage Area Network manager product-- but the gotcha there was that it was how the product was supposed to work-- it wasn't actually shrink-wrapped at this point in time;-) Mr. Lindsay Morris To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] lmorris@server cc: graph.comSubject: Re: Computer Associates - Brightstore Resource Manager for Sent by: ADSM:TSM Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] ST.EDU 10/29/2002 12:35 PM Please respond to lmorris CA seems to buy tools / companies and market them like crazy, but not put any energy into improving or supporting them. I'd be interested in hearing your take on what features this product has, and what it costs. - Mr. Lindsay Morris Lead Architect, Servergraph www.servergraph.com 859-253-8000 ofc 425-988-8478 fax -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L;VM.MARIST.EDU]On Behalf Of Jim Taylor Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 1:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Computer Associates - Brightstore Resource Manager for TSM Anyone out there heard of this CA product and have any experience with it. We have just been bought out by a large company that has bought into CA tools, big time. They want me to look at this CA component that was written for TSM. My question is ' will it provide me with anything of value'? Skeptically yours, Jim Taylor Technology Services Enlogix * E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Office: (416) 496-5266 * Cell: (416)458-6802 * Fax: (416) 496-5245
Re: Computer Associates - Brightstore Resource Manager for TSM
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L;VM.MARIST.EDU]On Behalf Of Lisa Cabanas FWIW, a little while ago, a CA tech person was onsite for two days with the operators here (unbeknownst to me, like the TSM admin should know, anyway...) checking out our operation and set up. Welcome to CA. They'll market at you until you give in, or until you slam the door in their face. Then, once you buy and install the software, they'll quit returning phone calls. Example of dumb programming: the marketing rep will neglect to tell you that CA UniCenter (their network and system management piece) uses UDP packets, instead of TCP. What does that mean? It means that there has to be a UniCenter server install for every segment of your network, because UDP packets can't be sent through a router. (What, me bitter??) -- Mark Stapleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Certified TSM consultant Certified AIX system engineer MCSE
