Re: Configuring IBM 3584 library
I just wanted to thank everyone for the advice and help with my VTL question. I've been able to get it defined and, after a bit of wrestling with TSM, have been able to get a test backup stg running to it. This is part of a pilot project between NYSERNET (NY State Education/Research Network) and their customers. They buy and install the VTL at their site in Syracuse and then we use it as a remote disaster data repository. Since Marist uses TSM for backup, I figured it was a good place for a 2nd copypool location. Some of the other customers are doing other things. My TSM skills really have gotten rusty...%-) I had let it go to someone else, but reacquired it after that person left Marist during the summersigh Just goes to show that if you stay in one place too long, everything is bound to come back to you eventually. Thanks again for the help! Martha
Re: Configuring IBM 3584 library
If it's a "IBM" lib type with LTO / 3592 all you need is the atape driver, not the TSM device drivers -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Nick Laflamme Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 6:31 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Configuring IBM 3584 library On Dec 13, 2010, at 6:09 AM, Richard Rhodes wrote: > If you have a VTL from a non-ibm vendor and choose to emulate a IBM > lib, do you have the right to use the IBM drivers? There might be a > vtl in our near future and I've wondered about this. > > Rick Yes, you do. The tape drivers are part of TSM, not part of the 3584, as far as I've ever heard. This e-mail, including attachments, may include confidential and/or proprietary information, and may be used only by the person or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient or his or her authorized agent, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by replying to this message and delete this e-mail immediately.
Ang: Re: Configuring IBM 3584 library
Drivers arent part of TSM, but are not under a ULA which prohibits use if you dont have the "real" IBM tape drives. For more info on the License Agreement for Atape, you can have a look here: ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/storage/devdrvr/Doc/ As a side note, I probably would have picked something that is compatible with the TSM drivers so that you dont have to monitor 2 different software packages for upgrades / bug fixes. Best Regards Daniel Sparrman -"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" skrev: - Till: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Från: Nick Laflamme Sänt av: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" Datum: 12/13/2010 13:30 Ärende: Re: Configuring IBM 3584 library On Dec 13, 2010, at 6:09 AM, Richard Rhodes wrote: > If you have a VTL from a non-ibm vendor and choose to emulate a IBM lib, > do you have the right to use the IBM drivers? There might > be a vtl in our near future and I've wondered about this. > > Rick Yes, you do. The tape drivers are part of TSM, not part of the 3584, as far as I've ever heard.
Re: Configuring IBM 3584 library
On Dec 13, 2010, at 6:09 AM, Richard Rhodes wrote: > If you have a VTL from a non-ibm vendor and choose to emulate a IBM lib, > do you have the right to use the IBM drivers? There might > be a vtl in our near future and I've wondered about this. > > Rick Yes, you do. The tape drivers are part of TSM, not part of the 3584, as far as I've ever heard.
Re: Configuring IBM 3584 library
"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" wrote on 12/12/2010 03:11:32 AM: > > Since you are emulating an IBM library, be sure to install the IBM > drivers, either the IBMTape drivers for Windows, or Atape drivers for > Unix, before you attach the tape drives and discover them. > If you have a VTL from a non-ibm vendor and choose to emulate a IBM lib, do you have the right to use the IBM drivers? There might be a vtl in our near future and I've wondered about this. Rick - The information contained in this message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this document in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately, and delete the original message.
Re: Configuring IBM 3584 library
I think Mark misread the original post. Since this is an EDL emulating an IBM3584 library, then you don't have to update firmware on the drives, obviously. But you will want to make sure your CE has the latest software installed on the EDL. Since you are emulating an IBM library, be sure to install the IBM drivers, either the IBMTape drivers for Windows, or Atape drivers for Unix, before you attach the tape drives and discover them. And if I can offer a bit of advice, use the "advanced tape creation" method on the EDL, and create your virtual tapes to be smaller than real 3592 tape drives. Real 3529 drives are 300GB, but on an VTL, you can get better tape utilization by making them smaller, 50-100GB in size. That way, you can reclaim them sooner and reuse the space sooner. And if you ever get into a situation where you need to recover a lot of filesystems or serves, you can get more restores going in parallel if they are on smaller tapes. Best Regards, John D. Schneider The Computer Coaching Community, LLC Office: (314) 635-5424 / Toll Free: (866) 796-9226 Cell: (314) 750-8721 Original Message Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Configuring IBM 3584 library From: "Loy, Mark W" Date: Fri, December 10, 2010 12:32 pm To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Just a piece of advice, make sure that all of the firmware (both library and drives) are up to date. We've had a fair amount of issues with our 3584 with 3592-E05 drives that firmware fixed and we were only one or two versions behind the most recent. The same holds true, of course, with the drivers as well. --Mark -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Martha McConaghy Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 1:18 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] Configuring IBM 3584 library I need a little quick help. I'm trying to connect our TSM 5.5 server to an EMC VTL. The EMC box is emulating an IBM 3584 library with IBM 3592 tape drives. I can't figure out how to define the library. Should it be SCSI? Anyone have any clue what options I should use? We've never used either before and I haven't had much luck searching the manuals for info on it. Martha McConaghy Marist IT
Re: Configuring IBM 3584 library
Just a piece of advice, make sure that all of the firmware (both library and drives) are up to date. We've had a fair amount of issues with our 3584 with 3592-E05 drives that firmware fixed and we were only one or two versions behind the most recent. The same holds true, of course, with the drivers as well. --Mark -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Martha McConaghy Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 1:18 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] Configuring IBM 3584 library I need a little quick help. I'm trying to connect our TSM 5.5 server to an EMC VTL. The EMC box is emulating an IBM 3584 library with IBM 3592 tape drives. I can't figure out how to define the library. Should it be SCSI? Anyone have any clue what options I should use? We've never used either before and I haven't had much luck searching the manuals for info on it. Martha McConaghy Marist IT
Re: Configuring IBM 3584 library
3584 is considered a SCSI Lib - so just use the define lib cmd and use the parms for SCSI lib. You can do a h def library on the TSM cmd line for the options >>-DEFine LIBRary--library_name-> .-LIBType--=--MANUAL---. >--+--+-> '-LIBType--=--+-MANUAL---+-' +-SCSI--| A |--+ +-349X--| B |--+ +-EXTernal-+ '-ACSLS--| C |-' .-RESETDrives--=--Yes-. (1) >--+-+--> '-RESETDrives--=--+-Yes-+-' '-No--' .-AUTOLabel--=--Yes---. (2) >--+-+->< '-AUTOLabel--=--+-No+-' +-Yes---+ '-OVERWRITE-' A (SCSI): .-AUTOLabel--=--No. |--+-+--| '-AUTOLabel--=--+-No+-' +-Yes---+ '-OVERWRITE-' -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Martha McConaghy Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 12:18 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] Configuring IBM 3584 library I need a little quick help. I'm trying to connect our TSM 5.5 server to an EMC VTL. The EMC box is emulating an IBM 3584 library with IBM 3592 tape drives. I can't figure out how to define the library. Should it be SCSI? Anyone have any clue what options I should use? We've never used either before and I haven't had much luck searching the manuals for info on it. Martha McConaghy Marist IT This e-mail, including attachments, may include confidential and/or proprietary information, and may be used only by the person or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient or his or her authorized agent, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by replying to this message and delete this e-mail immediately.
Re: Configuring IBM 3584 library
Yes, you define a 3584 (real or virtual!) to TSM as a SCSI library. From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [ads...@vm.marist.edu] on behalf of Martha McConaghy [urmm...@vm.marist.edu] Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 1:17 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] Configuring IBM 3584 library I need a little quick help. I'm trying to connect our TSM 5.5 server to an EMC VTL. The EMC box is emulating an IBM 3584 library with IBM 3592 tape drives. I can't figure out how to define the library. Should it be SCSI? Anyone have any clue what options I should use? We've never used either before and I haven't had much luck searching the manuals for info on it. Martha McConaghy Marist IT
Configuring IBM 3584 library
I need a little quick help. I'm trying to connect our TSM 5.5 server to an EMC VTL. The EMC box is emulating an IBM 3584 library with IBM 3592 tape drives. I can't figure out how to define the library. Should it be SCSI? Anyone have any clue what options I should use? We've never used either before and I haven't had much luck searching the manuals for info on it. Martha McConaghy Marist IT
