Re: Copypool Tape Ownership
>> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:53:19 -0500, "Haberstroh, Debbie (IT)" <[EMAIL >> PROTECTED]> said: > I have found several different papers but one that I have referred to was written by Allen S. Rout, 50 ways. He lists several different ways to migrate to a new server and this is one of them. I haven't read anything about splitting the Configuration Manager. As for the MCs, since I am restoring the database and not changing the management classes, I don't believe that they will need to rebind but if I am wrong, someone please let me know. I'm not familliar with configuration manager features: never got into them. There really isn't a change, per se, to the management classes: there is duplication, and then there is deletion. The delicate part is making really-really sure that you're zapping the correct bits from both places. - Allen S. Rout I should review those whitepapers.
Re: Copypool Tape Ownership
No, currently I only have 1 TSM server. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy Huebner Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 4:00 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Copypool Tape Ownership Do you use a Configuration Manager in your environment? Andy Huebner -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Haberstroh, Debbie (IT) Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 3:53 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Copypool Tape Ownership I have found several different papers but one that I have referred to was written by Allen S. Rout, 50 ways. He lists several different ways to migrate to a new server and this is one of them. I haven't read anything about splitting the Configuration Manager. As for the MCs, since I am restoring the database and not changing the management classes, I don't believe that they will need to rebind but if I am wrong, someone please let me know. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy Huebner Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 3:21 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Copypool Tape Ownership Is there a paper on this method? How would you split a server that is the Configuration Manager? How would TSM handle the "change" to the MCs? Would there we issues with retention or rebinding of objects. Andy Huebner -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Haberstroh, Debbie (IT) Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 2:38 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Copypool Tape Ownership That's what I needed, thanks. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chris Koster Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 2:19 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Copypool Tape Ownership You will have to decide which one of the instances will keep the original copypool. For the other instance(s), blow away the offsite copypool and generate a new one with BACKUP STGPOOL . I would suggest assigning the current copypool to the instance which owns the largest dataset (ie. Mail TDP). -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Haberstroh, Debbie (IT) Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 1:48 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] Copypool Tape Ownership Hi All, We are going to be moving our current TSM DB to a new server and breaking it up into separate instances so that the databases will be smaller. Our plan is to restore the DB as in a DR and then remove the nodes and policy domains that will be on the 2nd instance, in essence separating the DB. Currently my tapes are collocated by node in the tapepool (library) but the copypool (offsite) is not. I know that for the library I need to change ownership of the tapes to the new server(s) but am not sure what happens with the copypool tapes. I don't believe that the different servers can track files on the same tape. I have read papers on using this method but have not found a reference on how to handle the offsite tapes. Can someone please point me in the right direction? Thanks. Debbie Haberstroh Server Administration Northrop Grumman Information Technology Commercial, State & Local (CSL) 972-946-5639 This e-mail (including any attachments) is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not an intended recipient or an authorized representative of an intended recipient, you are prohibited from using, copying or distributing the information in this e-mail or its attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete all copies of this message and any attachments. Thank you. This e-mail (including any attachments) is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not an intended recipient or an authorized representative of an intended recipient, you are prohibited from using, copying or distributing the information in this e-mail or its attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete all copies of this message and any attachments. Thank you.
Re: Copypool Tape Ownership
Do you use a Configuration Manager in your environment? Andy Huebner -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Haberstroh, Debbie (IT) Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 3:53 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Copypool Tape Ownership I have found several different papers but one that I have referred to was written by Allen S. Rout, 50 ways. He lists several different ways to migrate to a new server and this is one of them. I haven't read anything about splitting the Configuration Manager. As for the MCs, since I am restoring the database and not changing the management classes, I don't believe that they will need to rebind but if I am wrong, someone please let me know. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy Huebner Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 3:21 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Copypool Tape Ownership Is there a paper on this method? How would you split a server that is the Configuration Manager? How would TSM handle the "change" to the MCs? Would there we issues with retention or rebinding of objects. Andy Huebner -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Haberstroh, Debbie (IT) Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 2:38 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Copypool Tape Ownership That's what I needed, thanks. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chris Koster Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 2:19 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Copypool Tape Ownership You will have to decide which one of the instances will keep the original copypool. For the other instance(s), blow away the offsite copypool and generate a new one with BACKUP STGPOOL . I would suggest assigning the current copypool to the instance which owns the largest dataset (ie. Mail TDP). -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Haberstroh, Debbie (IT) Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 1:48 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] Copypool Tape Ownership Hi All, We are going to be moving our current TSM DB to a new server and breaking it up into separate instances so that the databases will be smaller. Our plan is to restore the DB as in a DR and then remove the nodes and policy domains that will be on the 2nd instance, in essence separating the DB. Currently my tapes are collocated by node in the tapepool (library) but the copypool (offsite) is not. I know that for the library I need to change ownership of the tapes to the new server(s) but am not sure what happens with the copypool tapes. I don't believe that the different servers can track files on the same tape. I have read papers on using this method but have not found a reference on how to handle the offsite tapes. Can someone please point me in the right direction? Thanks. Debbie Haberstroh Server Administration Northrop Grumman Information Technology Commercial, State & Local (CSL) 972-946-5639 This e-mail (including any attachments) is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not an intended recipient or an authorized representative of an intended recipient, you are prohibited from using, copying or distributing the information in this e-mail or its attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete all copies of this message and any attachments. Thank you. This e-mail (including any attachments) is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not an intended recipient or an authorized representative of an intended recipient, you are prohibited from using, copying or distributing the information in this e-mail or its attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete all copies of this message and any attachments. Thank you.
Re: Copypool Tape Ownership
I have found several different papers but one that I have referred to was written by Allen S. Rout, 50 ways. He lists several different ways to migrate to a new server and this is one of them. I haven't read anything about splitting the Configuration Manager. As for the MCs, since I am restoring the database and not changing the management classes, I don't believe that they will need to rebind but if I am wrong, someone please let me know. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy Huebner Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 3:21 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Copypool Tape Ownership Is there a paper on this method? How would you split a server that is the Configuration Manager? How would TSM handle the "change" to the MCs? Would there we issues with retention or rebinding of objects. Andy Huebner -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Haberstroh, Debbie (IT) Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 2:38 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Copypool Tape Ownership That's what I needed, thanks. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chris Koster Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 2:19 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Copypool Tape Ownership You will have to decide which one of the instances will keep the original copypool. For the other instance(s), blow away the offsite copypool and generate a new one with BACKUP STGPOOL . I would suggest assigning the current copypool to the instance which owns the largest dataset (ie. Mail TDP). -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Haberstroh, Debbie (IT) Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 1:48 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] Copypool Tape Ownership Hi All, We are going to be moving our current TSM DB to a new server and breaking it up into separate instances so that the databases will be smaller. Our plan is to restore the DB as in a DR and then remove the nodes and policy domains that will be on the 2nd instance, in essence separating the DB. Currently my tapes are collocated by node in the tapepool (library) but the copypool (offsite) is not. I know that for the library I need to change ownership of the tapes to the new server(s) but am not sure what happens with the copypool tapes. I don't believe that the different servers can track files on the same tape. I have read papers on using this method but have not found a reference on how to handle the offsite tapes. Can someone please point me in the right direction? Thanks. Debbie Haberstroh Server Administration Northrop Grumman Information Technology Commercial, State & Local (CSL) 972-946-5639 This e-mail (including any attachments) is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not an intended recipient or an authorized representative of an intended recipient, you are prohibited from using, copying or distributing the information in this e-mail or its attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete all copies of this message and any attachments. Thank you.
Re: Copypool Tape Ownership
Is there a paper on this method? How would you split a server that is the Configuration Manager? How would TSM handle the "change" to the MCs? Would there we issues with retention or rebinding of objects. Andy Huebner -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Haberstroh, Debbie (IT) Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 2:38 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Copypool Tape Ownership That's what I needed, thanks. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chris Koster Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 2:19 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Copypool Tape Ownership You will have to decide which one of the instances will keep the original copypool. For the other instance(s), blow away the offsite copypool and generate a new one with BACKUP STGPOOL . I would suggest assigning the current copypool to the instance which owns the largest dataset (ie. Mail TDP). -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Haberstroh, Debbie (IT) Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 1:48 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] Copypool Tape Ownership Hi All, We are going to be moving our current TSM DB to a new server and breaking it up into separate instances so that the databases will be smaller. Our plan is to restore the DB as in a DR and then remove the nodes and policy domains that will be on the 2nd instance, in essence separating the DB. Currently my tapes are collocated by node in the tapepool (library) but the copypool (offsite) is not. I know that for the library I need to change ownership of the tapes to the new server(s) but am not sure what happens with the copypool tapes. I don't believe that the different servers can track files on the same tape. I have read papers on using this method but have not found a reference on how to handle the offsite tapes. Can someone please point me in the right direction? Thanks. Debbie Haberstroh Server Administration Northrop Grumman Information Technology Commercial, State & Local (CSL) 972-946-5639 This e-mail (including any attachments) is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not an intended recipient or an authorized representative of an intended recipient, you are prohibited from using, copying or distributing the information in this e-mail or its attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete all copies of this message and any attachments. Thank you.
Re: Copypool Tape Ownership
That's what I needed, thanks. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chris Koster Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 2:19 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Copypool Tape Ownership You will have to decide which one of the instances will keep the original copypool. For the other instance(s), blow away the offsite copypool and generate a new one with BACKUP STGPOOL . I would suggest assigning the current copypool to the instance which owns the largest dataset (ie. Mail TDP). -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Haberstroh, Debbie (IT) Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 1:48 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] Copypool Tape Ownership Hi All, We are going to be moving our current TSM DB to a new server and breaking it up into separate instances so that the databases will be smaller. Our plan is to restore the DB as in a DR and then remove the nodes and policy domains that will be on the 2nd instance, in essence separating the DB. Currently my tapes are collocated by node in the tapepool (library) but the copypool (offsite) is not. I know that for the library I need to change ownership of the tapes to the new server(s) but am not sure what happens with the copypool tapes. I don't believe that the different servers can track files on the same tape. I have read papers on using this method but have not found a reference on how to handle the offsite tapes. Can someone please point me in the right direction? Thanks. Debbie Haberstroh Server Administration Northrop Grumman Information Technology Commercial, State & Local (CSL) 972-946-5639
Re: Copypool Tape Ownership
You will have to decide which one of the instances will keep the original copypool. For the other instance(s), blow away the offsite copypool and generate a new one with BACKUP STGPOOL . I would suggest assigning the current copypool to the instance which owns the largest dataset (ie. Mail TDP). -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Haberstroh, Debbie (IT) Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 1:48 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] Copypool Tape Ownership Hi All, We are going to be moving our current TSM DB to a new server and breaking it up into separate instances so that the databases will be smaller. Our plan is to restore the DB as in a DR and then remove the nodes and policy domains that will be on the 2nd instance, in essence separating the DB. Currently my tapes are collocated by node in the tapepool (library) but the copypool (offsite) is not. I know that for the library I need to change ownership of the tapes to the new server(s) but am not sure what happens with the copypool tapes. I don't believe that the different servers can track files on the same tape. I have read papers on using this method but have not found a reference on how to handle the offsite tapes. Can someone please point me in the right direction? Thanks. Debbie Haberstroh Server Administration Northrop Grumman Information Technology Commercial, State & Local (CSL) 972-946-5639
Copypool Tape Ownership
Hi All, We are going to be moving our current TSM DB to a new server and breaking it up into separate instances so that the databases will be smaller. Our plan is to restore the DB as in a DR and then remove the nodes and policy domains that will be on the 2nd instance, in essence separating the DB. Currently my tapes are collocated by node in the tapepool (library) but the copypool (offsite) is not. I know that for the library I need to change ownership of the tapes to the new server(s) but am not sure what happens with the copypool tapes. I don't believe that the different servers can track files on the same tape. I have read papers on using this method but have not found a reference on how to handle the offsite tapes. Can someone please point me in the right direction? Thanks. Debbie Haberstroh Server Administration Northrop Grumman Information Technology Commercial, State & Local (CSL) 972-946-5639
