Re: I need some clarification
Hi, Look at this one: http://msgs.adsm.org/cgi-bin/get/adsm0202/289.html //Henrik -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Raibeck Sent: den 8 juni 2006 01:49 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: I need some clarification Hi James, What specifically were you told, and what specifically was unclear? You can search the ADSM-L archives (try search.adsm.org or www.mail-archive.com/adsm-l@vm.marist.edu/) at , which contains a large number of posts related to your type of question. Specifically, try searching on keywords RETONLY, RETEXTRA, VEREXISTS, VERDELETED, plus add my last name to the list, and I know that should cough up some prior posts that will help shed light on your questions. You might look at one thread in particular, Confusion with retention values. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www-306.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorag eManager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 06/07/2006 03:17:44 PM: Hello Everyone, I need some clarifications. What do the following parameters mean, in basic terms..I need to be able to recover for instance from today 45 days ago, so how would I set up these parameters I have ask tsm support and I cannot get a clear answer, so hopefully someone can help me. Versions Data Exists Versions Data Deleted Retain Extra Versions Retain Only Version Thank you in advance James --- Confidentiality Notice: The information in this e-mail and any attachments thereto is intended for the named recipient(s) only. This e-mail, including any attachments, may contain information that is privileged and confidential and subject to legal restrictions and penalties regarding its unauthorized disclosure or other use. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action or inaction in reliance on the contents of this e-mail and any of its attachments is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender via return e- mail; delete this e-mail and all attachments from your e-mail system and your computer system and network; and destroy any paper copies you may have in your possession. Thank you for your cooperation. --- The information contained in this message may be CONFIDENTIAL and is intended for the addressee only. Any unauthorised use, dissemination of the information or copying of this message is prohibited. If you are not the addressee, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete this message. Thank you.
Re: I need some clarification
Hi, I will try to help you... Versions Data Exists: the maximun number of versions that you are going to retain. Versions Data Deleted: the maximun number of versions that you are going to retain after a file was deleted from the client. Retain Extra Versions: This parameter specifies the number of days that an inactive version is retained. The file exists physically on the client. (45) Retain Only Version: This parameter specifies the number of days that a file must be retained after it was deleted from the client. (45) One example: Versions Data Exists: 5 Versions Data Deleted: 2 Retain Extra Versions: 45 Retain Only Version: 45 Hope this could helps Regards, Ibán Bernaldo de Quirós Márquez Technical Specialist cell: + 34 659 01 91 12 Sun Microsystems Iberia -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager on behalf of Lepre, James Sent: Thu 08/06/2006 0:17 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] I need some clarification Hello Everyone, I need some clarifications. What do the following parameters mean, in basic terms..I need to be able to recover for instance from today 45 days ago, so how would I set up these parameters I have ask tsm support and I cannot get a clear answer, so hopefully someone can help me. Versions Data Exists Versions Data Deleted Retain Extra Versions Retain Only Version Thank you in advance James --- Confidentiality Notice: The information in this e-mail and any attachments thereto is intended for the named recipient(s) only. This e-mail, including any attachments, may contain information that is privileged and confidential and subject to legal restrictions and penalties regarding its unauthorized disclosure or other use. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action or inaction in reliance on the contents of this e-mail and any of its attachments is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender via return e-mail; delete this e-mail and all attachments from your e-mail system and your computer system and network; and destroy any paper copies you may have in your possession. Thank you for your cooperation.
Re: I need some clarification
So you are saying that if I have the need to restore from today, 45 days ago, then each parameter should be 45 -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bernaldo de Quiros, Iban 1 Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 4:27 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] I need some clarification Hi, I will try to help you... Versions Data Exists: the maximun number of versions that you are going to retain. Versions Data Deleted: the maximun number of versions that you are going to retain after a file was deleted from the client. Retain Extra Versions: This parameter specifies the number of days that an inactive version is retained. The file exists physically on the client. (45) Retain Only Version: This parameter specifies the number of days that a file must be retained after it was deleted from the client. (45) One example: Versions Data Exists: 5 Versions Data Deleted: 2 Retain Extra Versions: 45 Retain Only Version: 45 Hope this could helps Regards, Ibán Bernaldo de Quirós Márquez Technical Specialist cell: + 34 659 01 91 12 Sun Microsystems Iberia -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager on behalf of Lepre, James Sent: Thu 08/06/2006 0:17 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] I need some clarification Hello Everyone, I need some clarifications. What do the following parameters mean, in basic terms..I need to be able to recover for instance from today 45 days ago, so how would I set up these parameters I have ask tsm support and I cannot get a clear answer, so hopefully someone can help me. Versions Data Exists Versions Data Deleted Retain Extra Versions Retain Only Version Thank you in advance James --- Confidentiality Notice: The information in this e-mail and any attachments thereto is intended for the named recipient(s) only. This e-mail, including any attachments, may contain information that is privileged and confidential and subject to legal restrictions and penalties regarding its unauthorized disclosure or other use. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action or inaction in reliance on the contents of this e-mail and any of its attachments is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender via return e-mail; delete this e-mail and all attachments from your e-mail system and your computer system and network; and destroy any paper copies you may have in your possession. Thank you for your cooperation.
Re: I need some clarification
Versions Data Exists: NOLIMIT Versions Data Deleted: NOLIMIT Retain Extra Versions: 45 Retain Only Version: 90 _ Ian Smith SAN/TSM Specialist Hitachi Data Systems Certified Professional -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lepre, James Sent: 08 June 2006 14:52 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] I need some clarification So you are saying that if I have the need to restore from today, 45 days ago, then each parameter should be 45 -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bernaldo de Quiros, Iban 1 Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 4:27 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] I need some clarification Hi, I will try to help you... Versions Data Exists: the maximun number of versions that you are going to retain. Versions Data Deleted: the maximun number of versions that you are going to retain after a file was deleted from the client. Retain Extra Versions: This parameter specifies the number of days that an inactive version is retained. The file exists physically on the client. (45) Retain Only Version: This parameter specifies the number of days that a file must be retained after it was deleted from the client. (45) One example: Versions Data Exists: 5 Versions Data Deleted: 2 Retain Extra Versions: 45 Retain Only Version: 45 Hope this could helps Regards, Ibán Bernaldo de Quirós Márquez Technical Specialist cell: + 34 659 01 91 12 Sun Microsystems Iberia -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager on behalf of Lepre, James Sent: Thu 08/06/2006 0:17 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] I need some clarification Hello Everyone, I need some clarifications. What do the following parameters mean, in basic terms..I need to be able to recover for instance from today 45 days ago, so how would I set up these parameters I have ask tsm support and I cannot get a clear answer, so hopefully someone can help me. Versions Data Exists Versions Data Deleted Retain Extra Versions Retain Only Version Thank you in advance James --- Confidentiality Notice: The information in this e-mail and any attachments thereto is intended for the named recipient(s) only. This e-mail, including any attachments, may contain information that is privileged and confidential and subject to legal restrictions and penalties regarding its unauthorized disclosure or other use. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action or inaction in reliance on the contents of this e-mail and any of its attachments is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender via return e-mail; delete this e-mail and all attachments from your e-mail system and your computer system and network; and destroy any paper copies you may have in your possession. Thank you for your cooperation. _ This email (including any attachments to it) is confidential, legally privileged, subject to copyright and is sent for the personal attention of the intended recipient only. If you have received this email in error, please advise us immediately and delete it. You are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. Although we have taken reasonable precautions to ensure no viruses are present in this email, we cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage arising from the viruses in this email or attachments. We exclude any liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided in this email or its attachments, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If this email contains an offer, that should be considered as an invitation to treat. _
Re: I need some clarification
Ok that makes sense, thank you -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Smith, I (Ian) Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 9:52 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] I need some clarification Versions Data Exists: NOLIMIT Versions Data Deleted: NOLIMIT Retain Extra Versions: 45 Retain Only Version: 90 _ Ian Smith SAN/TSM Specialist Hitachi Data Systems Certified Professional -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lepre, James Sent: 08 June 2006 14:52 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] I need some clarification So you are saying that if I have the need to restore from today, 45 days ago, then each parameter should be 45 -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bernaldo de Quiros, Iban 1 Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 4:27 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] I need some clarification Hi, I will try to help you... Versions Data Exists: the maximun number of versions that you are going to retain. Versions Data Deleted: the maximun number of versions that you are going to retain after a file was deleted from the client. Retain Extra Versions: This parameter specifies the number of days that an inactive version is retained. The file exists physically on the client. (45) Retain Only Version: This parameter specifies the number of days that a file must be retained after it was deleted from the client. (45) One example: Versions Data Exists: 5 Versions Data Deleted: 2 Retain Extra Versions: 45 Retain Only Version: 45 Hope this could helps Regards, Ibán Bernaldo de Quirós Márquez Technical Specialist cell: + 34 659 01 91 12 Sun Microsystems Iberia -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager on behalf of Lepre, James Sent: Thu 08/06/2006 0:17 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] I need some clarification Hello Everyone, I need some clarifications. What do the following parameters mean, in basic terms..I need to be able to recover for instance from today 45 days ago, so how would I set up these parameters I have ask tsm support and I cannot get a clear answer, so hopefully someone can help me. Versions Data Exists Versions Data Deleted Retain Extra Versions Retain Only Version Thank you in advance James --- Confidentiality Notice: The information in this e-mail and any attachments thereto is intended for the named recipient(s) only. This e-mail, including any attachments, may contain information that is privileged and confidential and subject to legal restrictions and penalties regarding its unauthorized disclosure or other use. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action or inaction in reliance on the contents of this e-mail and any of its attachments is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender via return e-mail; delete this e-mail and all attachments from your e-mail system and your computer system and network; and destroy any paper copies you may have in your possession. Thank you for your cooperation. _ This email (including any attachments to it) is confidential, legally privileged, subject to copyright and is sent for the personal attention of the intended recipient only. If you have received this email in error, please advise us immediately and delete it. You are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. Although we have taken reasonable precautions to ensure no viruses are present in this email, we cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage arising from the viruses in this email or attachments. We exclude any liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided in this email or its attachments, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If this email contains an offer, that should be considered as an invitation to treat. _
Re: I need some clarification
If you need to GUARANTEE data retention for 45 days, set the parameters as follows: Versions Data Exists = NOLIMIT Versions Data Deleted = NOLIMIT Retain Extra Versions = 45 Retain Only Version = 45 Why? The Version Data Exists and Deleted parameters specify a number of versions. If you, or someone else, runs more than one selective or absolute mode backup per day, you may not get as many days retained as you intended. The Retain parameters specify the number of days to keep inactive versions. Robin Sharpe Berlex Labs Lepre, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] COM To Sent by: ADSM: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Dist Stor cc Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject .EDU Re: I need some clarification 06/07/2006 06:17 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] .EDU Hello Everyone, I need some clarifications. What do the following parameters mean, in basic terms..I need to be able to recover for instance from today 45 days ago, so how would I set up these parameters I have ask tsm support and I cannot get a clear answer, so hopefully someone can help me. Versions Data Exists Versions Data Deleted Retain Extra Versions Retain Only Version Thank you in advance James --- Confidentiality Notice: The information in this e-mail and any attachments thereto is intended for the named recipient(s) only. This e-mail, including any attachments, may contain information that is privileged and confidential and subject to legal restrictions and penalties regarding its unauthorized disclosure or other use. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action or inaction in reliance on the contents of this e-mail and any of its attachments is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender via return e-mail; delete this e-mail and all attachments from your e-mail system and your computer system and network; and destroy any paper copies you may have in your possession. Thank you for your cooperation.
Re: I need some clarification
Hello Everyone, I need some clarifications. What do the following parameters mean, in basic terms..I need to be able to recover for instance from today 45 days ago, so how would I set up these parameters I have ask tsm support and I cannot get a clear answer, so hopefully someone can help me. Versions Data Exists Versions Data Deleted Retain Extra Versions Retain Only Version Thank you in advance James --- Confidentiality Notice: The information in this e-mail and any attachments thereto is intended for the named recipient(s) only. This e-mail, including any attachments, may contain information that is privileged and confidential and subject to legal restrictions and penalties regarding its unauthorized disclosure or other use. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action or inaction in reliance on the contents of this e-mail and any of its attachments is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender via return e-mail; delete this e-mail and all attachments from your e-mail system and your computer system and network; and destroy any paper copies you may have in your possession. Thank you for your cooperation.
Re: I need some clarification
All the terms a relative to how often you perform backups. If you perform a backup once a day and need to go back 45 days, and the file could be change every day, you need to set all parameters to 45. That is retain changed version for 45 days if the file still exists Retain the 45 version of the file even if the file is deleted. Retain extra version 45 days. Retain the only version for 45 days. Now if you perform a backup more than once a day the files can theoretically be changed ever time a back up is run and you would have to adjust accordingly. Also if you are performing a backup less often than once a day the number of versions may keep much more data than you want. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lepre, James Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 5:18 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: I need some clarification Hello Everyone, I need some clarifications. What do the following parameters mean, in basic terms..I need to be able to recover for instance from today 45 days ago, so how would I set up these parameters I have ask tsm support and I cannot get a clear answer, so hopefully someone can help me. Versions Data Exists Versions Data Deleted Retain Extra Versions Retain Only Version Thank you in advance James --- Confidentiality Notice: The information in this e-mail and any attachments thereto is intended for the named recipient(s) only. This e-mail, including any attachments, may contain information that is privileged and confidential and subject to legal restrictions and penalties regarding its unauthorized disclosure or other use. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action or inaction in reliance on the contents of this e-mail and any of its attachments is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender via return e-mail; delete this e-mail and all attachments from your e-mail system and your computer system and network; and destroy any paper copies you may have in your possession. Thank you for your cooperation.
Re: I need some clarification
Hi James, What specifically were you told, and what specifically was unclear? You can search the ADSM-L archives (try search.adsm.org or www.mail-archive.com/adsm-l@vm.marist.edu/) at , which contains a large number of posts related to your type of question. Specifically, try searching on keywords RETONLY, RETEXTRA, VEREXISTS, VERDELETED, plus add my last name to the list, and I know that should cough up some prior posts that will help shed light on your questions. You might look at one thread in particular, Confusion with retention values. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www-306.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 06/07/2006 03:17:44 PM: Hello Everyone, I need some clarifications. What do the following parameters mean, in basic terms..I need to be able to recover for instance from today 45 days ago, so how would I set up these parameters I have ask tsm support and I cannot get a clear answer, so hopefully someone can help me. Versions Data Exists Versions Data Deleted Retain Extra Versions Retain Only Version Thank you in advance James --- Confidentiality Notice: The information in this e-mail and any attachments thereto is intended for the named recipient(s) only. This e-mail, including any attachments, may contain information that is privileged and confidential and subject to legal restrictions and penalties regarding its unauthorized disclosure or other use. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action or inaction in reliance on the contents of this e-mail and any of its attachments is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender via return e- mail; delete this e-mail and all attachments from your e-mail system and your computer system and network; and destroy any paper copies you may have in your possession. Thank you for your cooperation.
