Re: Extend library capacity
Kurt, Thanks for describing the fix. I've often wondered if a simple restart would work. I, like others, usually delete all and redefine all. Kelly J. Lipp VP Manufacturing & CTO STORServer, Inc. 485-B Elkton Drive Colorado Springs, CO 80907 719-266-8777 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of BEYERS Kurt Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 3:45 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Extend library capacity I've got it solved finally. The new added slots on the physical library were not yet allocated to the logical partition TSM is using. Which explains why TSM didn't find them. A simple restart of TSM did discover the new added slots afterwards. Mvg, Kurt > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Baker, > Jane > Verzonden: woensdag 1 augustus 2007 9:41 > Aan: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > Onderwerp: Re: [ADSM-L] Extend library capacity > > We found when we changed the library config (only logically) they told > us to re-configure, library defs, drives and paths but we didn't need > to. > > We did need to run the 'update library serial=autodetect' to get it to > find it's new serial number as it is somehow linked to the slot number > or numbers??? > > Hope you get it resolved soon! > > Jane. > > -Original Message- > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > BEYERS Kurt > Sent: 01 August 2007 08:30 > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Extend library capacity > > Thanks for the answers. > > I was afraid that a redefinition of the library would be the answer. > Otherwise I'll give it a go as soon as TSM is finished with it's daily > maintenance tasks. Which will keep him busy for a few more hours. > > I've opened a PMR at IBM too, maybe they come up with something else > while TSM is busy. > > Regards, > Kurt > > > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > > Van: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens > Wanda > > Prather > > Verzonden: dinsdag 31 juli 2007 18:11 > > Aan: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > > Onderwerp: Re: [ADSM-L] Extend library capacity > > > > The document you reference is peculiar. It says the "server may have > to > > be restarted or the library audited or possibly redefined", but it > doesn't > > make clear the cases where it needs to be redefined. > > > > AFAIK, when you change the number of slots in a TSM SCSI library, you > have > > to delete the library and drive definitions and redefine them. > > > > Here's what I think you need to do: > > > > Check out your tapes with REMOVE=NO > > Make a copy of your DEVCONFIG file > > Delete your paths > > delete your drives > > delete your library > > Use the commands in the copy of your DEVCONFIG file to recreate the > > library and drive and path definitions. (leave the SERIAL # off the > > define drive command, let TSM figure it out.) TSM will pick up the > new > > slots. > > > > CheCK YOUR tapes back in. > > (You can make it easier by running a checkin for ALL tapes > (search=yes) as > > STATUS=SCRATch. TSM will skip those that shouldn't be scratch. Then > run > > a second checkin for all tapes status=PRIVATE. > > > > Anybody got a different opinion? > > > > Wanda > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > I've got the following setup: > > > > > > TSM server 5.4.0.3 on AIX5.3 TL5 (Extended Edition) Adic i2000 > > > library > > > > > > The capacity of the library was extended from 500 to 600 slots by > > > adding a license key. TSM was restarted afterwards and an audit of > the > > > ibrary was done , but TSM still only saw 500 instead of 600 slots. > > > According to the following note, this is all that should be done: > > > > > > > http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?%20%20%20%20%20rs=663&context=S > > > > SGSG7&dc=D600&dc=DB520&dc=DB530&dc=D700&dc=DB500&dc=DB540&dc=DB510&dc=DB > > > 550&q1=library+AND+change&uid=swg21203271&loc=en_US&cs=utf-8&lang=en > > > > > > The library and TSM server were rebooted too, but TSM still only > sees > > > 500 slots instead of 600 slots. > > > > > > What else should be done so that TSM detects the new added library > > > slots? > > > > &g
Re: Extend library capacity
I've got it solved finally. The new added slots on the physical library were not yet allocated to the logical partition TSM is using. Which explains why TSM didn't find them. A simple restart of TSM did discover the new added slots afterwards. Mvg, Kurt > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Baker, > Jane > Verzonden: woensdag 1 augustus 2007 9:41 > Aan: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > Onderwerp: Re: [ADSM-L] Extend library capacity > > We found when we changed the library config (only logically) they told > us to re-configure, library defs, drives and paths but we didn't need > to. > > We did need to run the 'update library serial=autodetect' to get it to > find it's new serial number as it is somehow linked to the slot number > or numbers??? > > Hope you get it resolved soon! > > Jane. > > -Original Message- > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > BEYERS Kurt > Sent: 01 August 2007 08:30 > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Extend library capacity > > Thanks for the answers. > > I was afraid that a redefinition of the library would be the answer. > Otherwise I'll give it a go as soon as TSM is finished with it's daily > maintenance tasks. Which will keep him busy for a few more hours. > > I've opened a PMR at IBM too, maybe they come up with something else > while TSM is busy. > > Regards, > Kurt > > > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > > Van: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens > Wanda > > Prather > > Verzonden: dinsdag 31 juli 2007 18:11 > > Aan: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > > Onderwerp: Re: [ADSM-L] Extend library capacity > > > > The document you reference is peculiar. It says the "server may have > to > > be restarted or the library audited or possibly redefined", but it > doesn't > > make clear the cases where it needs to be redefined. > > > > AFAIK, when you change the number of slots in a TSM SCSI library, you > have > > to delete the library and drive definitions and redefine them. > > > > Here's what I think you need to do: > > > > Check out your tapes with REMOVE=NO > > Make a copy of your DEVCONFIG file > > Delete your paths > > delete your drives > > delete your library > > Use the commands in the copy of your DEVCONFIG file to recreate the > > library and drive and path definitions. (leave the SERIAL # off the > > define drive command, let TSM figure it out.) TSM will pick up the > new > > slots. > > > > CheCK YOUR tapes back in. > > (You can make it easier by running a checkin for ALL tapes > (search=yes) as > > STATUS=SCRATch. TSM will skip those that shouldn't be scratch. Then > run > > a second checkin for all tapes status=PRIVATE. > > > > Anybody got a different opinion? > > > > Wanda > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > I've got the following setup: > > > > > > TSM server 5.4.0.3 on AIX5.3 TL5 (Extended Edition) > > > Adic i2000 library > > > > > > The capacity of the library was extended from 500 to 600 slots by > > > adding a license key. TSM was restarted afterwards and an audit of > the > > > ibrary was done , but TSM still only saw 500 instead of 600 slots. > > > According to the following note, this is all that should be done: > > > > > > > http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?%20%20%20%20%20rs=663&context=S > > > > SGSG7&dc=D600&dc=DB520&dc=DB530&dc=D700&dc=DB500&dc=DB540&dc=DB510&dc=DB > > > 550&q1=library+AND+change&uid=swg21203271&loc=en_US&cs=utf-8&lang=en > > > > > > The library and TSM server were rebooted too, but TSM still only > sees > > > 500 slots instead of 600 slots. > > > > > > What else should be done so that TSM detects the new added library > > > slots? > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > Kurt > > > > > > *** Disclaimer *** > > > > > > Vlaamse Radio- en Televisieomroep > > > Auguste Reyerslaan 52, 1043 Brussel > > > > > > nv van publiek recht > > > BTW BE 0244.142.664 > > > RPR Brussel > > > http://www.vrt.be/disclaimer > > > > > > > *** Disclaimer *** > > Vlaamse Radio- en Televisieomroep > Auguste Reyerslaan 52, 1043 Brussel > > nv van
Re: Extend library capacity
We found when we changed the library config (only logically) they told us to re-configure, library defs, drives and paths but we didn't need to. We did need to run the 'update library serial=autodetect' to get it to find it's new serial number as it is somehow linked to the slot number or numbers??? Hope you get it resolved soon! Jane. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of BEYERS Kurt Sent: 01 August 2007 08:30 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Extend library capacity Thanks for the answers. I was afraid that a redefinition of the library would be the answer. Otherwise I'll give it a go as soon as TSM is finished with it's daily maintenance tasks. Which will keep him busy for a few more hours. I've opened a PMR at IBM too, maybe they come up with something else while TSM is busy. Regards, Kurt > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Wanda > Prather > Verzonden: dinsdag 31 juli 2007 18:11 > Aan: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > Onderwerp: Re: [ADSM-L] Extend library capacity > > The document you reference is peculiar. It says the "server may have to > be restarted or the library audited or possibly redefined", but it doesn't > make clear the cases where it needs to be redefined. > > AFAIK, when you change the number of slots in a TSM SCSI library, you have > to delete the library and drive definitions and redefine them. > > Here's what I think you need to do: > > Check out your tapes with REMOVE=NO > Make a copy of your DEVCONFIG file > Delete your paths > delete your drives > delete your library > Use the commands in the copy of your DEVCONFIG file to recreate the > library and drive and path definitions. (leave the SERIAL # off the > define drive command, let TSM figure it out.) TSM will pick up the new > slots. > > CheCK YOUR tapes back in. > (You can make it easier by running a checkin for ALL tapes (search=yes) as > STATUS=SCRATch. TSM will skip those that shouldn't be scratch. Then run > a second checkin for all tapes status=PRIVATE. > > Anybody got a different opinion? > > Wanda > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > I've got the following setup: > > > > TSM server 5.4.0.3 on AIX5.3 TL5 (Extended Edition) > > Adic i2000 library > > > > The capacity of the library was extended from 500 to 600 slots by > > adding a license key. TSM was restarted afterwards and an audit of the > > ibrary was done , but TSM still only saw 500 instead of 600 slots. > > According to the following note, this is all that should be done: > > > > http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?%20%20%20%20%20rs=663&context=S > > SGSG7&dc=D600&dc=DB520&dc=DB530&dc=D700&dc=DB500&dc=DB540&dc=DB510&dc=DB > > 550&q1=library+AND+change&uid=swg21203271&loc=en_US&cs=utf-8&lang=en > > > > The library and TSM server were rebooted too, but TSM still only sees > > 500 slots instead of 600 slots. > > > > What else should be done so that TSM detects the new added library > > slots? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > Kurt > > > > *** Disclaimer *** > > > > Vlaamse Radio- en Televisieomroep > > Auguste Reyerslaan 52, 1043 Brussel > > > > nv van publiek recht > > BTW BE 0244.142.664 > > RPR Brussel > > http://www.vrt.be/disclaimer > > > > *** Disclaimer *** Vlaamse Radio- en Televisieomroep Auguste Reyerslaan 52, 1043 Brussel nv van publiek recht BTW BE 0244.142.664 RPR Brussel http://www.vrt.be/disclaimer Please check that this email is addressed to you. If not, you should delete it immediately as its contents may be confidential and its disclosure, copying or distribution unlawful. C. & J. Clark International Limited takes steps to prevent the transmission of electronic viruses but responsibility for screening incoming messages and the risk of such transmission lies with the recipient. C. & J. Clark International Limited Trading as Clarks Registered in England number 141015. Registered office 40 High Street, Street, Somerset. BA16 0EQ. England. This message has been scanned for viruses by BlackSpider MailControl - www.blackspider.com
Re: Extend library capacity
Thanks for the answers. I was afraid that a redefinition of the library would be the answer. Otherwise I'll give it a go as soon as TSM is finished with it's daily maintenance tasks. Which will keep him busy for a few more hours. I've opened a PMR at IBM too, maybe they come up with something else while TSM is busy. Regards, Kurt > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Wanda > Prather > Verzonden: dinsdag 31 juli 2007 18:11 > Aan: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > Onderwerp: Re: [ADSM-L] Extend library capacity > > The document you reference is peculiar. It says the "server may have to > be restarted or the library audited or possibly redefined", but it doesn't > make clear the cases where it needs to be redefined. > > AFAIK, when you change the number of slots in a TSM SCSI library, you have > to delete the library and drive definitions and redefine them. > > Here's what I think you need to do: > > Check out your tapes with REMOVE=NO > Make a copy of your DEVCONFIG file > Delete your paths > delete your drives > delete your library > Use the commands in the copy of your DEVCONFIG file to recreate the > library and drive and path definitions. (leave the SERIAL # off the > define drive command, let TSM figure it out.) TSM will pick up the new > slots. > > CheCK YOUR tapes back in. > (You can make it easier by running a checkin for ALL tapes (search=yes) as > STATUS=SCRATch. TSM will skip those that shouldn't be scratch. Then run > a second checkin for all tapes status=PRIVATE. > > Anybody got a different opinion? > > Wanda > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > I've got the following setup: > > > > TSM server 5.4.0.3 on AIX5.3 TL5 (Extended Edition) > > Adic i2000 library > > > > The capacity of the library was extended from 500 to 600 slots by > > adding a license key. TSM was restarted afterwards and an audit of the > > ibrary was done , but TSM still only saw 500 instead of 600 slots. > > According to the following note, this is all that should be done: > > > > http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?%20%20%20%20%20rs=663&context=S > > SGSG7&dc=D600&dc=DB520&dc=DB530&dc=D700&dc=DB500&dc=DB540&dc=DB510&dc=DB > > 550&q1=library+AND+change&uid=swg21203271&loc=en_US&cs=utf-8&lang=en > > > > The library and TSM server were rebooted too, but TSM still only sees > > 500 slots instead of 600 slots. > > > > What else should be done so that TSM detects the new added library > > slots? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > Kurt > > > > *** Disclaimer *** > > > > Vlaamse Radio- en Televisieomroep > > Auguste Reyerslaan 52, 1043 Brussel > > > > nv van publiek recht > > BTW BE 0244.142.664 > > RPR Brussel > > http://www.vrt.be/disclaimer > > > > *** Disclaimer *** Vlaamse Radio- en Televisieomroep Auguste Reyerslaan 52, 1043 Brussel nv van publiek recht BTW BE 0244.142.664 RPR Brussel http://www.vrt.be/disclaimer
Re: Extend library capacity
The document you reference is peculiar. It says the "server may have to be restarted or the library audited or possibly redefined", but it doesn't make clear the cases where it needs to be redefined. AFAIK, when you change the number of slots in a TSM SCSI library, you have to delete the library and drive definitions and redefine them. Here's what I think you need to do: Check out your tapes with REMOVE=NO Make a copy of your DEVCONFIG file Delete your paths delete your drives delete your library Use the commands in the copy of your DEVCONFIG file to recreate the library and drive and path definitions. (leave the SERIAL # off the define drive command, let TSM figure it out.) TSM will pick up the new slots. CheCK YOUR tapes back in. (You can make it easier by running a checkin for ALL tapes (search=yes) as STATUS=SCRATch. TSM will skip those that shouldn't be scratch. Then run a second checkin for all tapes status=PRIVATE. Anybody got a different opinion? Wanda > Hello, > > I've got the following setup: > > TSM server 5.4.0.3 on AIX5.3 TL5 (Extended Edition) > Adic i2000 library > > The capacity of the library was extended from 500 to 600 slots by > adding a license key. TSM was restarted afterwards and an audit of the > ibrary was done , but TSM still only saw 500 instead of 600 slots. > According to the following note, this is all that should be done: > > http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?%20%20%20%20%20rs=663&context=S > SGSG7&dc=D600&dc=DB520&dc=DB530&dc=D700&dc=DB500&dc=DB540&dc=DB510&dc=DB > 550&q1=library+AND+change&uid=swg21203271&loc=en_US&cs=utf-8&lang=en > > The library and TSM server were rebooted too, but TSM still only sees > 500 slots instead of 600 slots. > > What else should be done so that TSM detects the new added library > slots? > > Thanks in advance, > Kurt > > *** Disclaimer *** > > Vlaamse Radio- en Televisieomroep > Auguste Reyerslaan 52, 1043 Brussel > > nv van publiek recht > BTW BE 0244.142.664 > RPR Brussel > http://www.vrt.be/disclaimer > >
Re: Extend library capacity
TSM is kind of funny when you mess with the library and/or definitions. I usually end up removing and recreating all paths, drives and libraries to resolve my issues. Nicholas Rodolfich TSM/AIX Administrator East Jefferson General Hospital Fidelity Information Systems 504-883-6955 (office) 228-223-6777 (mobile) [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7/31/2007 10:45:00 AM >>> Hello, I've got the following setup: TSM server 5.4.0.3 on AIX5.3 TL5 (Extended Edition) Adic i2000 library The capacity of the library was extended from 500 to 600 slots by adding a license key. TSM was restarted afterwards and an audit of the ibrary was done , but TSM still only saw 500 instead of 600 slots. According to the following note, this is all that should be done: http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?%20%20%20%20%20rs=663&context=S SGSG7&dc=D600&dc=DB520&dc=DB530&dc=D700&dc=DB500&dc=DB540&dc=DB510&dc=DB 550&q1=library+AND+change&uid=swg21203271&loc=en_US&cs=utf-8&lang=en The library and TSM server were rebooted too, but TSM still only sees 500 slots instead of 600 slots. What else should be done so that TSM detects the new added library slots? Thanks in advance, Kurt *** Disclaimer *** Vlaamse Radio- en Televisieomroep Auguste Reyerslaan 52, 1043 Brussel nv van publiek recht BTW BE 0244.142.664 RPR Brussel http://www.vrt.be/disclaimer IMPORTANT NOTICE: This message and any included attachments are from East Jefferson General Hospital, and is intended only for the addressee(s), and may include Protected Health (PHI) or other confidential information. If you are the intended recipient, you are obligated to maintain it in a secure and confidential manner and re-disclosure without additional consent or as permitted by law is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, use of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please promptly reply to the sender by email and delete this message from your computer. East Jefferson General Hospital greatly appreciates your cooperation.
Extend library capacity
Hello, I've got the following setup: TSM server 5.4.0.3 on AIX5.3 TL5 (Extended Edition) Adic i2000 library The capacity of the library was extended from 500 to 600 slots by adding a license key. TSM was restarted afterwards and an audit of the ibrary was done , but TSM still only saw 500 instead of 600 slots. According to the following note, this is all that should be done: http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?%20%20%20%20%20rs=663&context=S SGSG7&dc=D600&dc=DB520&dc=DB530&dc=D700&dc=DB500&dc=DB540&dc=DB510&dc=DB 550&q1=library+AND+change&uid=swg21203271&loc=en_US&cs=utf-8&lang=en The library and TSM server were rebooted too, but TSM still only sees 500 slots instead of 600 slots. What else should be done so that TSM detects the new added library slots? Thanks in advance, Kurt *** Disclaimer *** Vlaamse Radio- en Televisieomroep Auguste Reyerslaan 52, 1043 Brussel nv van publiek recht BTW BE 0244.142.664 RPR Brussel http://www.vrt.be/disclaimer
Re: Tape Library Capacity Increase Help.
Well, I managed to get it up and running. Good suggestion on the halt and restart - completely slipped my mind to restart the box. It did however take a full restart of the server (not just restarting the service) in order for it to pick up the new config. As well, I had to reenable the Managed Library license as the config had changed from the previous one. Oh, I had already increased the Max Scratch variable to accommodate. Cheers, Curt ___ Curt Watts Network Analyst, Capilano College [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 19/09/2003 12:32:07 pm >>> Did you halt and restart TSM after the Library was upgraded? You need to do that so TSM picks up new configf of library. You then need to immediately run an "audit library blah checklabel=barcode" to synchronize inventory, before doing any tape operations. David B. Longo System Administrator Health First, Inc. 3300 Fiske Blvd. Rockledge, FL 32955-4305 PH 321.434.5536 Pager 321.634.8230 Fax:321.434.5509 [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/19/03 03:13PM >>> Howdy, I managed to increase the capacity of our IBM 3583 tape library from 18 LTO tapes to 54 LTO tapes but now the question arises, how do I get TSM (4.2.3.2) to recognize the increase in the Tape Pool. My fear is that because the tape pool has been set up with the estimation of only 18 tapes, I'm going to have to create a new tape pool with the new size and move the data over. I'm pretty sure the tape library is functional from the hardware side of things because I'm able to manually move tapes from the I/O port into the new tape cartidges. The reason behind my question is that when trying to checkin more than 18 tapes, I'm getting a "Library is Full" from TSM. Thanks & Regards Curt Watts ___ Curt Watts Network Analyst, Capilano College [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary, or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it, and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. Health First reserves the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views or opinions expressed in this message are solely those of the individual sender, except (1) where the message states such views or opinions are on behalf of a particular entity; and (2) the sender is authorized by the entity to give such views or opinions. ##
Re: Tape Library Capacity Increase Help.
This may be too simple of an answer, but just increase the Max Scratch of the stgpool. -Original Message- From: Curt Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 2:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Tape Library Capacity Increase Help. Howdy, I managed to increase the capacity of our IBM 3583 tape library from 18 LTO tapes to 54 LTO tapes but now the question arises, how do I get TSM (4.2.3.2) to recognize the increase in the Tape Pool. My fear is that because the tape pool has been set up with the estimation of only 18 tapes, I'm going to have to create a new tape pool with the new size and move the data over. I'm pretty sure the tape library is functional from the hardware side of things because I'm able to manually move tapes from the I/O port into the new tape cartidges. The reason behind my question is that when trying to checkin more than 18 tapes, I'm getting a "Library is Full" from TSM. Thanks & Regards Curt Watts ___ Curt Watts Network Analyst, Capilano College [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tape Library Capacity Increase Help.
Did you halt and restart TSM after the Library was upgraded? You need to do that so TSM picks up new configf of library. You then need to immediately run an "audit library blah checklabel=barcode" to synchronize inventory, before doing any tape operations. David B. Longo System Administrator Health First, Inc. 3300 Fiske Blvd. Rockledge, FL 32955-4305 PH 321.434.5536 Pager 321.634.8230 Fax:321.434.5509 [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/19/03 03:13PM >>> Howdy, I managed to increase the capacity of our IBM 3583 tape library from 18 LTO tapes to 54 LTO tapes but now the question arises, how do I get TSM (4.2.3.2) to recognize the increase in the Tape Pool. My fear is that because the tape pool has been set up with the estimation of only 18 tapes, I'm going to have to create a new tape pool with the new size and move the data over. I'm pretty sure the tape library is functional from the hardware side of things because I'm able to manually move tapes from the I/O port into the new tape cartidges. The reason behind my question is that when trying to checkin more than 18 tapes, I'm getting a "Library is Full" from TSM. Thanks & Regards Curt Watts ___ Curt Watts Network Analyst, Capilano College [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary, or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it, and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. Health First reserves the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views or opinions expressed in this message are solely those of the individual sender, except (1) where the message states such views or opinions are on behalf of a particular entity; and (2) the sender is authorized by the entity to give such views or opinions. ##
Tape Library Capacity Increase Help.
Howdy, I managed to increase the capacity of our IBM 3583 tape library from 18 LTO tapes to 54 LTO tapes but now the question arises, how do I get TSM (4.2.3.2) to recognize the increase in the Tape Pool. My fear is that because the tape pool has been set up with the estimation of only 18 tapes, I'm going to have to create a new tape pool with the new size and move the data over. I'm pretty sure the tape library is functional from the hardware side of things because I'm able to manually move tapes from the I/O port into the new tape cartidges. The reason behind my question is that when trying to checkin more than 18 tapes, I'm getting a "Library is Full" from TSM. Thanks & Regards Curt Watts ___ Curt Watts Network Analyst, Capilano College [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tape Library Capacity Requirement.
Hi 3 versions for incremental backup would, if you have 3.7TB of data, become 3 times the amount in the library(11.1TB). 4 versions of archieved information would become 4 times the amount of archived information(14.8TB if you archive all data). With this much information, you would get two important features using TSM: - You don't have to transport either full, nor Legato/Veritas incrementals(which means full+incr+incr+incr+incr+incr and then start over with full). - Reclamation. With this much information stored on tape, reclamation is necessary to keep the library from eating tapes.I would also recommend you to use a tape technique which stores a lot of information on each tape, such as LTO which stores 100GB uncompressed, and 200GB compressed. Using large tapes would get us to the next feature, which is copypools. Loosing one 200GB tape means loosing a lot of information. Therefore, using copypools as media protection is a good idea. On the other hand, using copypools means using twice the amount of tapes, as you have one copy of each tape that holds information. A IBM 3584 library holds 144 tapes as default, which means 28.8TB compressed, and can, with a small investment, hold 288 tapes, or 56.6TB compressed. If you would like to expand the library further, just add another frame to the library. Each frame can hold about 440 tapes, which means 80TB compressed. You can have up to five additional frames. The point is to not have to remove tapes from the library, as this is a manual intervention, and opens up for human errors. You could make it with a smaller library, but that would mean removing, and inserting, tapes into the library. Best Regards Daniel Sparrman---Daniel SparrmanExist i Stockholm ABBergkällavägen 31D192 79 SOLLENTUNAVäxel: 08 - 754 98 00Mobil: 070 - 399 27 51-"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]From: Zosimo Noriega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: 03/12/2002 05:22AMSubject: Re: Tape Library Capacity Requirement.hi daniel,currently we're using ADSM 3.1 and IBM 3494 TL, we're planning to upgrade orchange the backup & tape library solution, so, we're still evaluating thesolution. we selected 3 backup solutions from the list (TSM, LEGATO,VERITAS)with there own proposed tape library. Since, we have that diskspaces available (3.7TB) with 80% utilised, we want to calculate therequired TL capacity. If we selected TSM what is the required capacity forTL if we implemented 4 versions of archive & 3 versions of incrementalbackups.reagrds,-Original Message-From: Daniel Sparrman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 5:55 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: Tape Library Capacity Requirement.HiIt sounds like you're going to use a "full backup" software such as Legato.However, I will do my estimates based on TSM, which uses incrementalbackups, and version management to be able to do point-in-time restores offiles(older version of a file than the latest) and applications.I'd probably propose a IBM 3584 Anaconda with at least 3 drives, preferablefibre attached.I guess that you are going to use TSM with this library. Therefore, youwill probably not use full backups, but incremental. And, on fileservers, Irecommend using more than 3 versions(which is standard within TSM). Thiswill grow your total storage by the number of versions you want to use.It' very hard to calculate total storage requirements, when you don't tellus what kind of data that is going to be kept in the library(SQL databases,fileservers and so on).However, you can count with about 10% change every night on a fileserver,and, if not to large, use full backups of databases.I'd say you'll be storing about 10TB total, and preferable, have mediaprotection using copypools, which means another 10TB.Best RegardsDaniel Sparrman---Daniel SparrmanExist i Stockholm ABBergkällavägen 31D192 79 SOLLENTUNAVäxel: 08 - 754 98 00Mobil: 070 - 399 27 51 Zosimo Noriega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] OM> cc: Sent by: "ADSM: Subject: Tape LibraryCapacity Requirement. Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] .EDU>2002-03-11 10:52 Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" Please help me to calculate the require capacity of the tape library. Ihave 3.7 TB of data and 4 versions of Archive (with 30 days retentionperiod) and 1 version of backup (full backup) will be implemented.How can i calculate the required capacity?Thanks for your help in advance.Zosi NoriegaADNOC-UAE.
Re: Tape Library Capacity Requirement.
hi daniel, currently we're using ADSM 3.1 and IBM 3494 TL, we're planning to upgrade or change the backup & tape library solution, so, we're still evaluating the solution. we selected 3 backup solutions from the list (TSM, LEGATO, VERITAS)with there own proposed tape library. Since, we have that disk spaces available (3.7TB) with 80% utilised, we want to calculate the required TL capacity. If we selected TSM what is the required capacity for TL if we implemented 4 versions of archive & 3 versions of incremental backups. reagrds, -Original Message- From: Daniel Sparrman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 5:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Tape Library Capacity Requirement. Hi It sounds like you're going to use a "full backup" software such as Legato. However, I will do my estimates based on TSM, which uses incremental backups, and version management to be able to do point-in-time restores of files(older version of a file than the latest) and applications. I'd probably propose a IBM 3584 Anaconda with at least 3 drives, preferable fibre attached. I guess that you are going to use TSM with this library. Therefore, you will probably not use full backups, but incremental. And, on fileservers, I recommend using more than 3 versions(which is standard within TSM). This will grow your total storage by the number of versions you want to use. It' very hard to calculate total storage requirements, when you don't tell us what kind of data that is going to be kept in the library(SQL databases, fileservers and so on). However, you can count with about 10% change every night on a fileserver, and, if not to large, use full backups of databases. I'd say you'll be storing about 10TB total, and preferable, have media protection using copypools, which means another 10TB. Best Regards Daniel Sparrman --- Daniel Sparrman Exist i Stockholm AB Bergkällavägen 31D 192 79 SOLLENTUNA Växel: 08 - 754 98 00 Mobil: 070 - 399 27 51 Zosimo Noriega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] OM> cc: Sent by: "ADSM: Subject: Tape Library Capacity Requirement. Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] .EDU> 2002-03-11 10:52 Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" Please help me to calculate the require capacity of the tape library. I have 3.7 TB of data and 4 versions of Archive (with 30 days retention period) and 1 version of backup (full backup) will be implemented. How can i calculate the required capacity? Thanks for your help in advance. Zosi Noriega ADNOC-UAE.
Re: Tape Library Capacity Requirement.
Hi It sounds like you're going to use a "full backup" software such as Legato. However, I will do my estimates based on TSM, which uses incremental backups, and version management to be able to do point-in-time restores of files(older version of a file than the latest) and applications. I'd probably propose a IBM 3584 Anaconda with at least 3 drives, preferable fibre attached. I guess that you are going to use TSM with this library. Therefore, you will probably not use full backups, but incremental. And, on fileservers, I recommend using more than 3 versions(which is standard within TSM). This will grow your total storage by the number of versions you want to use. It' very hard to calculate total storage requirements, when you don't tell us what kind of data that is going to be kept in the library(SQL databases, fileservers and so on). However, you can count with about 10% change every night on a fileserver, and, if not to large, use full backups of databases. I'd say you'll be storing about 10TB total, and preferable, have media protection using copypools, which means another 10TB. Best Regards Daniel Sparrman --- Daniel Sparrman Exist i Stockholm AB Bergkällavägen 31D 192 79 SOLLENTUNA Växel: 08 - 754 98 00 Mobil: 070 - 399 27 51 Zosimo Noriega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] OM> cc: Sent by: "ADSM: Subject: Tape Library Capacity Requirement. Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] .EDU> 2002-03-11 10:52 Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" Please help me to calculate the require capacity of the tape library. I have 3.7 TB of data and 4 versions of Archive (with 30 days retention period) and 1 version of backup (full backup) will be implemented. How can i calculate the required capacity? Thanks for your help in advance. Zosi Noriega ADNOC-UAE.
Tape Library Capacity Requirement.
Please help me to calculate the require capacity of the tape library. I have 3.7 TB of data and 4 versions of Archive (with 30 days retention period) and 1 version of backup (full backup) will be implemented. How can i calculate the required capacity? Thanks for your help in advance. Zosi Noriega ADNOC-UAE.
Re: Library capacity
Ah that age old problem. I have got around this by writing a AIX script that I run daily which interogates that ATL to find of the following : * Number of SCRATCH volumes in ADSM * Number of PRIVATE volumes in ADSM * Number of tapes in library that can be checked into ADSM * Names of volumes that can be checked into ADSM as scratch tapes * Misplaced volumes in the library * Number of free cells in the library * Number of cleaning cycles remaining The scripts is as follows : -- clear rm mtlib.out echo "Number of SCRATCH volumes in ADSM" dsmadmc -id=x -password=x q libv|grep -i scratch|wc -l echo "" echo "Number of PRIVATE volumes in ADSM" dsmadmc -id=x -password=x q libv|grep -i private|wc -l echo "" echo "Number of tapes in library that can be checked into ADSM" mtlib -l /dev/lmcp0 -qI > mtlib.out pg mtlib.out|grep -i ff00|wc -l echo "" echo " Names of volumes that can be checked into ADSM as scratch tapes" pg mtlib.out|grep -i ff00 echo "" echo " Misplaced volumes in the library" echo "" pg mtlib.out|grep -v FF00|grep -v 012|grep -v 01F echo "" echo "Number of free cells in the library" mtlib -l /dev/lmcp0 -qL|grep "available cells" echo "" echo "Number of cleaning cycles remaining" mtlib -l /dev/lmcp0 -qL|grep -i 3590 This information is transribed onto a spreadsheet daily. Obviously over a period of time it is possible to analyse the output and look for trends in usage. It works for me, hopefully you will find it useful. > -Original Message- > From: Glenn MacIntosh [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 8:34 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Library capacity > > Hi, > > Try the mtlib command: > > mtlib -l/dev/lmcp0 -t10 -qL > > where your library device is /dev/lmcp0. Show you lots of good stuff. > > Good luck, > > Glenn MacIntosh > Manager of Technical Services > Sobeys Inc. > 123 Foord St. > Stellarton, Nova Scotia > (902) 752-8371 Ext. 4017 > > > -Original Message- > From: Lawrence Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 1:04 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Library capacity > > > Hi: > You can determine how many volumes are used by each storage group by > entering: > dsmadmc -id=userid -pa=password 'select stgpool_name,count(*) from volumes > group by > stgpool_name' > > You can determine the 'unused' by entering: > > dsmcmd "SELECT LIBVOLUMES.VOLUME_NAME, LIBVOLUMES.STATUS FROM LIB > Volumes where libvolumes.status = 'Scratch'" > > I can tell how many are going offsite each day by running: > > SELECT VOLUMES.VOLUME_NAME, VOLUMES.STGPOOL_NAME, VOLUMES.ACCESS > FROM VOLUMES > WHERE (((VOLUMES.STGPOOL_NAME)="OFFSITEVOLS") AND (Not > (VOLUMES.ACCESS)='OFFSITE')); > > Because our copypool that creates the offsite volumes is named offsitevols > and the status is changed to offsite when they are checked out. > > Hope this helps. > > > > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/09/01 10:24AM >>> > Hello all, > > My current setup, H50, 3494LIB, 4 3590's, 7133 D40, is beginning to come > to > a point where I need more capacity, or so I feel. I would like for the > company to order the next section of library, 2 3494's, memory for the > computer, DASD and a few other bits now, but I found out yesterday it > won't > happen till Q4. Now I believe I may have a problem with this but without a > way for me to estimate how much the system will grow in relation to what I > have available I can't very well push them to order sooner. > > With all the knowledge I have at my disposal, and I don't mean my own, > that's where you all come in, I'm looking for some commands within AIX or > TSM to get the information I need. Is there a way to find out how many > slots > the 3494 has, total, used and available? Sure I could start counting...no, > forget that idea Commands for this would help greatly. > > Now with that figured out I'm looking to see if there is a way to figure > out > how many tapes are used each day, for onsite and offsite, as opposed to > how > many tapes are reclaimed/returned. If I could run this each day for a > month > and maybe backdate it if possible, I might come up with an idea when we > would hit the wall. Taking into account the library is shared with MVS, > which has 2 drives of it's o
Re: Library capacity
Hi, Try the mtlib command: mtlib -l/dev/lmcp0 -t10 -qL where your library device is /dev/lmcp0. Show you lots of good stuff. Good luck, Glenn MacIntosh Manager of Technical Services Sobeys Inc. 123 Foord St. Stellarton, Nova Scotia (902) 752-8371 Ext. 4017 -Original Message- From: Lawrence Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 1:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Library capacity Hi: You can determine how many volumes are used by each storage group by entering: dsmadmc -id=userid -pa=password 'select stgpool_name,count(*) from volumes group by stgpool_name' You can determine the 'unused' by entering: dsmcmd "SELECT LIBVOLUMES.VOLUME_NAME, LIBVOLUMES.STATUS FROM LIB Volumes where libvolumes.status = 'Scratch'" I can tell how many are going offsite each day by running: SELECT VOLUMES.VOLUME_NAME, VOLUMES.STGPOOL_NAME, VOLUMES.ACCESS FROM VOLUMES WHERE (((VOLUMES.STGPOOL_NAME)="OFFSITEVOLS") AND (Not (VOLUMES.ACCESS)='OFFSITE')); Because our copypool that creates the offsite volumes is named offsitevols and the status is changed to offsite when they are checked out. Hope this helps. >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/09/01 10:24AM >>> Hello all, My current setup, H50, 3494LIB, 4 3590's, 7133 D40, is beginning to come to a point where I need more capacity, or so I feel. I would like for the company to order the next section of library, 2 3494's, memory for the computer, DASD and a few other bits now, but I found out yesterday it won't happen till Q4. Now I believe I may have a problem with this but without a way for me to estimate how much the system will grow in relation to what I have available I can't very well push them to order sooner. With all the knowledge I have at my disposal, and I don't mean my own, that's where you all come in, I'm looking for some commands within AIX or TSM to get the information I need. Is there a way to find out how many slots the 3494 has, total, used and available? Sure I could start counting...no, forget that idea Commands for this would help greatly. Now with that figured out I'm looking to see if there is a way to figure out how many tapes are used each day, for onsite and offsite, as opposed to how many tapes are reclaimed/returned. If I could run this each day for a month and maybe backdate it if possible, I might come up with an idea when we would hit the wall. Taking into account the library is shared with MVS, which has 2 drives of it's own, I would have to factor in their info if I could get it. I have Exchange and another group who want access now, which would put an additional load on what I already have. So keeping in mind those could get implemented before I get more space, I could very well run out even quicker than expected. My own feeling is, even without the additional computers, I'll run out of space before Q4. Thanks for the help, Geoff Gill NT Systems Support Engineer SAIC Computer Systems Group E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (858) 826-4062 Pager: (888) 997-9614
Re: Library capacity
mtlib -l/dev/lmcp# -qL | more that will have all the library slot/tape info you need...(also cleaner cycles) the tape use "thing" has been a thorn in my rear for a long time now (going on 6 years) just use accounting records, take all the inbound traffic (arch, bkup, hsm) add them up and divide by 10 (GB) that will buy you some buffer space if your clients don't compress... if mgmt says "what about compression" then you have to take all your tapes (q vol dev=3590blah) take your average capacity and then use that to determine how many tapes you use daily based on inbound traffic... believe me, there are ways around running out of space but they are all ugly later, Dwight [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Gill, Geoffrey L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 9:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Library capacity Hello all, My current setup, H50, 3494LIB, 4 3590's, 7133 D40, is beginning to come to a point where I need more capacity, or so I feel. I would like for the company to order the next section of library, 2 3494's, memory for the computer, DASD and a few other bits now, but I found out yesterday it won't happen till Q4. Now I believe I may have a problem with this but without a way for me to estimate how much the system will grow in relation to what I have available I can't very well push them to order sooner. With all the knowledge I have at my disposal, and I don't mean my own, that's where you all come in, I'm looking for some commands within AIX or TSM to get the information I need. Is there a way to find out how many slots the 3494 has, total, used and available? Sure I could start counting...no, forget that idea Commands for this would help greatly. Now with that figured out I'm looking to see if there is a way to figure out how many tapes are used each day, for onsite and offsite, as opposed to how many tapes are reclaimed/returned. If I could run this each day for a month and maybe backdate it if possible, I might come up with an idea when we would hit the wall. Taking into account the library is shared with MVS, which has 2 drives of it's own, I would have to factor in their info if I could get it. I have Exchange and another group who want access now, which would put an additional load on what I already have. So keeping in mind those could get implemented before I get more space, I could very well run out even quicker than expected. My own feeling is, even without the additional computers, I'll run out of space before Q4. Thanks for the help, Geoff Gill NT Systems Support Engineer SAIC Computer Systems Group E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (858) 826-4062 Pager: (888) 997-9614
Re: Library capacity
Hi: You can determine how many volumes are used by each storage group by entering: dsmadmc -id=userid -pa=password 'select stgpool_name,count(*) from volumes group by stgpool_name' You can determine the 'unused' by entering: dsmcmd "SELECT LIBVOLUMES.VOLUME_NAME, LIBVOLUMES.STATUS FROM LIB Volumes where libvolumes.status = 'Scratch'" I can tell how many are going offsite each day by running: SELECT VOLUMES.VOLUME_NAME, VOLUMES.STGPOOL_NAME, VOLUMES.ACCESS FROM VOLUMES WHERE (((VOLUMES.STGPOOL_NAME)="OFFSITEVOLS") AND (Not (VOLUMES.ACCESS)='OFFSITE')); Because our copypool that creates the offsite volumes is named offsitevols and the status is changed to offsite when they are checked out. Hope this helps. >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/09/01 10:24AM >>> Hello all, My current setup, H50, 3494LIB, 4 3590's, 7133 D40, is beginning to come to a point where I need more capacity, or so I feel. I would like for the company to order the next section of library, 2 3494's, memory for the computer, DASD and a few other bits now, but I found out yesterday it won't happen till Q4. Now I believe I may have a problem with this but without a way for me to estimate how much the system will grow in relation to what I have available I can't very well push them to order sooner. With all the knowledge I have at my disposal, and I don't mean my own, that's where you all come in, I'm looking for some commands within AIX or TSM to get the information I need. Is there a way to find out how many slots the 3494 has, total, used and available? Sure I could start counting...no, forget that idea Commands for this would help greatly. Now with that figured out I'm looking to see if there is a way to figure out how many tapes are used each day, for onsite and offsite, as opposed to how many tapes are reclaimed/returned. If I could run this each day for a month and maybe backdate it if possible, I might come up with an idea when we would hit the wall. Taking into account the library is shared with MVS, which has 2 drives of it's own, I would have to factor in their info if I could get it. I have Exchange and another group who want access now, which would put an additional load on what I already have. So keeping in mind those could get implemented before I get more space, I could very well run out even quicker than expected. My own feeling is, even without the additional computers, I'll run out of space before Q4. Thanks for the help, Geoff Gill NT Systems Support Engineer SAIC Computer Systems Group E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (858) 826-4062 Pager: (888) 997-9614
Re: Library capacity
Issue the following from your H50. mtlib -l/dev/lmcp0 -qL Curt Magura Lockheed Martin EIS Gaithersburg, Md. 301-240-6305 -Original Message- From: Gill, Geoffrey L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 10:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Library capacity Hello all, My current setup, H50, 3494LIB, 4 3590's, 7133 D40, is beginning to come to a point where I need more capacity, or so I feel. I would like for the company to order the next section of library, 2 3494's, memory for the computer, DASD and a few other bits now, but I found out yesterday it won't happen till Q4. Now I believe I may have a problem with this but without a way for me to estimate how much the system will grow in relation to what I have available I can't very well push them to order sooner. With all the knowledge I have at my disposal, and I don't mean my own, that's where you all come in, I'm looking for some commands within AIX or TSM to get the information I need. Is there a way to find out how many slots the 3494 has, total, used and available? Sure I could start counting...no, forget that idea Commands for this would help greatly. Now with that figured out I'm looking to see if there is a way to figure out how many tapes are used each day, for onsite and offsite, as opposed to how many tapes are reclaimed/returned. If I could run this each day for a month and maybe backdate it if possible, I might come up with an idea when we would hit the wall. Taking into account the library is shared with MVS, which has 2 drives of it's own, I would have to factor in their info if I could get it. I have Exchange and another group who want access now, which would put an additional load on what I already have. So keeping in mind those could get implemented before I get more space, I could very well run out even quicker than expected. My own feeling is, even without the additional computers, I'll run out of space before Q4. Thanks for the help, Geoff Gill NT Systems Support Engineer SAIC Computer Systems Group E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (858) 826-4062 Pager: (888) 997-9614
Library capacity
Hello all, My current setup, H50, 3494LIB, 4 3590's, 7133 D40, is beginning to come to a point where I need more capacity, or so I feel. I would like for the company to order the next section of library, 2 3494's, memory for the computer, DASD and a few other bits now, but I found out yesterday it won't happen till Q4. Now I believe I may have a problem with this but without a way for me to estimate how much the system will grow in relation to what I have available I can't very well push them to order sooner. With all the knowledge I have at my disposal, and I don't mean my own, that's where you all come in, I'm looking for some commands within AIX or TSM to get the information I need. Is there a way to find out how many slots the 3494 has, total, used and available? Sure I could start counting...no, forget that idea Commands for this would help greatly. Now with that figured out I'm looking to see if there is a way to figure out how many tapes are used each day, for onsite and offsite, as opposed to how many tapes are reclaimed/returned. If I could run this each day for a month and maybe backdate it if possible, I might come up with an idea when we would hit the wall. Taking into account the library is shared with MVS, which has 2 drives of it's own, I would have to factor in their info if I could get it. I have Exchange and another group who want access now, which would put an additional load on what I already have. So keeping in mind those could get implemented before I get more space, I could very well run out even quicker than expected. My own feeling is, even without the additional computers, I'll run out of space before Q4. Thanks for the help, Geoff Gill NT Systems Support Engineer SAIC Computer Systems Group E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (858) 826-4062 Pager: (888) 997-9614
