Re: NFS mounts backed up
Thanks, Eric! Have you had a chance to test this out? My understanding was that AUTOMOUNT was only needed if you wanted to backup the automounted filesystems, rather than exclude them. On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:08:02AM +, Loon, Eric van (ITOPT3) - KLM wrote: > Hi all, > Just for the archives: IBM confirmed that my issue is caused by a TSM BA > client design change (7.1.4.1 and higher) documented in APAR IT16782 > (http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?crawler=1=swg1IT16782) > Kind regards, > Eric van Loon > Air France/KLM Storage Engineering > > -Original Message- > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of > Skylar Thompson > Sent: donderdag 17 november 2016 17:36 > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: NFS mounts backed up > > All of our autofs-managed mounts are in a common /net path, so we just have > an "exclude.dir /net" rule on the hosts that shouldn't be backing up NFS. > > On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 04:28:47PM +, Loon, Eric van (ITOPT3) - KLM wrote: > > Hi Skylar! > > This could be the case, but how does one prevent this than? > > The customer stated that the NFS filesystems weren't backed up before and > > the issue started a few weeks ago. They first suspected the upgrade to > > 7.1.6, but we just installed the previous version (7.1.4.4) and this > > versions backs them up too... > > Thanks again for your help! > > Kind regards, > > Eric van Loon > > Air France/KLM Storage Engineering > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf > > Of Skylar Thompson > > Sent: donderdag 17 november 2016 16:06 > > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > > Subject: Re: NFS mounts backed up > > > > Are you using an automounter that provides directory entries for the mount > > points before they're mounted (aka "ghost" mounts)? If so, TSM will detect > > the directory entries and the automounter can mount the filesystems before > > TSM can detect them as NFS. > > > > On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 02:54:17PM +, Loon, Eric van (ITOPT3) - KLM > > wrote: > > > Hi guys! > > > We have a host with a TSM client 7.1.6 with several NFS mounts. As far as > > > I know TSM should not backup NFS mounts, unless explicitly specified or > > > when set through the DOMAIN or INCLUDE statement. On this node neither > > > one is used but as soon as we issue a dsmc i without any additional > > > parameters the NFS mounts are backed up too. > > > Any idea what could be causing this? Thanks for any help in advance! > > > Kind regards, > > > Eric van Loon > > > Air France/KLM Storage Engineering > > > > > > > > > For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: > > > http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain > > > confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If > > > you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or > > > any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any > > > other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, > > > and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please > > > notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. > > > > > > Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its > > > employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete > > > transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any > > > delay in receipt. > > > Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal > > > Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with > > > registered number 33014286 > > > > > > > -- > > -- Skylar Thompson (skyl...@u.washington.edu) > > -- Genome Sciences Department, System Administrator > > -- Foege Building S046, (206)-685-7354 > > -- University of Washington School of Medicine > > > > For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: > > http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential > > and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the > > addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment > > may be disclosed, copied or
Re: NFS mounts backed up
Hi all, Just for the archives: IBM confirmed that my issue is caused by a TSM BA client design change (7.1.4.1 and higher) documented in APAR IT16782 (http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?crawler=1=swg1IT16782) Kind regards, Eric van Loon Air France/KLM Storage Engineering -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Skylar Thompson Sent: donderdag 17 november 2016 17:36 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: NFS mounts backed up All of our autofs-managed mounts are in a common /net path, so we just have an "exclude.dir /net" rule on the hosts that shouldn't be backing up NFS. On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 04:28:47PM +, Loon, Eric van (ITOPT3) - KLM wrote: > Hi Skylar! > This could be the case, but how does one prevent this than? > The customer stated that the NFS filesystems weren't backed up before and the > issue started a few weeks ago. They first suspected the upgrade to 7.1.6, but > we just installed the previous version (7.1.4.4) and this versions backs them > up too... > Thanks again for your help! > Kind regards, > Eric van Loon > Air France/KLM Storage Engineering > > > -Original Message- > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf > Of Skylar Thompson > Sent: donderdag 17 november 2016 16:06 > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: NFS mounts backed up > > Are you using an automounter that provides directory entries for the mount > points before they're mounted (aka "ghost" mounts)? If so, TSM will detect > the directory entries and the automounter can mount the filesystems before > TSM can detect them as NFS. > > On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 02:54:17PM +, Loon, Eric van (ITOPT3) - KLM wrote: > > Hi guys! > > We have a host with a TSM client 7.1.6 with several NFS mounts. As far as I > > know TSM should not backup NFS mounts, unless explicitly specified or when > > set through the DOMAIN or INCLUDE statement. On this node neither one is > > used but as soon as we issue a dsmc i without any additional parameters the > > NFS mounts are backed up too. > > Any idea what could be causing this? Thanks for any help in advance! > > Kind regards, > > Eric van Loon > > Air France/KLM Storage Engineering > > > > > > For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: > > http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential > > and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the > > addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment > > may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related > > to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. > > If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender > > immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. > > > > Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its > > employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission > > of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. > > Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal > > Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with > > registered number 33014286 > > > > -- > -- Skylar Thompson (skyl...@u.washington.edu) > -- Genome Sciences Department, System Administrator > -- Foege Building S046, (206)-685-7354 > -- University of Washington School of Medicine > > For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: > http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential > and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the > addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may > be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to > this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you > have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by > return e-mail, and delete this message. > > Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its > employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of > this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. > Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal > Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with > registered number 33014286 > **
Re: NFS mounts backed up
All of our autofs-managed mounts are in a common /net path, so we just have an "exclude.dir /net" rule on the hosts that shouldn't be backing up NFS. On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 04:28:47PM +, Loon, Eric van (ITOPT3) - KLM wrote: > Hi Skylar! > This could be the case, but how does one prevent this than? > The customer stated that the NFS filesystems weren't backed up before and the > issue started a few weeks ago. They first suspected the upgrade to 7.1.6, but > we just installed the previous version (7.1.4.4) and this versions backs them > up too... > Thanks again for your help! > Kind regards, > Eric van Loon > Air France/KLM Storage Engineering > > > -Original Message- > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of > Skylar Thompson > Sent: donderdag 17 november 2016 16:06 > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: NFS mounts backed up > > Are you using an automounter that provides directory entries for the mount > points before they're mounted (aka "ghost" mounts)? If so, TSM will detect > the directory entries and the automounter can mount the filesystems before > TSM can detect them as NFS. > > On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 02:54:17PM +, Loon, Eric van (ITOPT3) - KLM wrote: > > Hi guys! > > We have a host with a TSM client 7.1.6 with several NFS mounts. As far as I > > know TSM should not backup NFS mounts, unless explicitly specified or when > > set through the DOMAIN or INCLUDE statement. On this node neither one is > > used but as soon as we issue a dsmc i without any additional parameters the > > NFS mounts are backed up too. > > Any idea what could be causing this? Thanks for any help in advance! > > Kind regards, > > Eric van Loon > > Air France/KLM Storage Engineering > > > > > > For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: > > http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential > > and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the > > addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment > > may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related > > to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. > > If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender > > immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. > > > > Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its > > employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission > > of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. > > Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal > > Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with > > registered number 33014286 > > > > -- > -- Skylar Thompson (skyl...@u.washington.edu) > -- Genome Sciences Department, System Administrator > -- Foege Building S046, (206)-685-7354 > -- University of Washington School of Medicine > > For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: > http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential > and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the > addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may > be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to > this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you > have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by > return e-mail, and delete this message. > > Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its > employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of > this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. > Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch > Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered > number 33014286 > > -- -- Skylar Thompson (skyl...@u.washington.edu) -- Genome Sciences Department, System Administrator -- Foege Building S046, (206)-685-7354 -- University of Washington School of Medicine
Re: NFS mounts backed up
Hi Skylar! This could be the case, but how does one prevent this than? The customer stated that the NFS filesystems weren't backed up before and the issue started a few weeks ago. They first suspected the upgrade to 7.1.6, but we just installed the previous version (7.1.4.4) and this versions backs them up too... Thanks again for your help! Kind regards, Eric van Loon Air France/KLM Storage Engineering -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Skylar Thompson Sent: donderdag 17 november 2016 16:06 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: NFS mounts backed up Are you using an automounter that provides directory entries for the mount points before they're mounted (aka "ghost" mounts)? If so, TSM will detect the directory entries and the automounter can mount the filesystems before TSM can detect them as NFS. On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 02:54:17PM +, Loon, Eric van (ITOPT3) - KLM wrote: > Hi guys! > We have a host with a TSM client 7.1.6 with several NFS mounts. As far as I > know TSM should not backup NFS mounts, unless explicitly specified or when > set through the DOMAIN or INCLUDE statement. On this node neither one is used > but as soon as we issue a dsmc i without any additional parameters the NFS > mounts are backed up too. > Any idea what could be causing this? Thanks for any help in advance! > Kind regards, > Eric van Loon > Air France/KLM Storage Engineering > > > For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: > http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential > and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the > addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may > be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to > this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you > have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by > return e-mail, and delete this message. > > Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its > employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of > this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. > Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal > Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with > registered number 33014286 > -- -- Skylar Thompson (skyl...@u.washington.edu) -- Genome Sciences Department, System Administrator -- Foege Building S046, (206)-685-7354 -- University of Washington School of Medicine For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286
Re: NFS mounts backed up
Are you using an automounter that provides directory entries for the mount points before they're mounted (aka "ghost" mounts)? If so, TSM will detect the directory entries and the automounter can mount the filesystems before TSM can detect them as NFS. On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 02:54:17PM +, Loon, Eric van (ITOPT3) - KLM wrote: > Hi guys! > We have a host with a TSM client 7.1.6 with several NFS mounts. As far as I > know TSM should not backup NFS mounts, unless explicitly specified or when > set through the DOMAIN or INCLUDE statement. On this node neither one is used > but as soon as we issue a dsmc i without any additional parameters the NFS > mounts are backed up too. > Any idea what could be causing this? Thanks for any help in advance! > Kind regards, > Eric van Loon > Air France/KLM Storage Engineering > > > For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: > http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential > and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the > addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may > be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to > this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you > have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by > return e-mail, and delete this message. > > Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its > employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of > this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. > Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch > Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered > number 33014286 > -- -- Skylar Thompson (skyl...@u.washington.edu) -- Genome Sciences Department, System Administrator -- Foege Building S046, (206)-685-7354 -- University of Washington School of Medicine
NFS mounts backed up
Hi guys! We have a host with a TSM client 7.1.6 with several NFS mounts. As far as I know TSM should not backup NFS mounts, unless explicitly specified or when set through the DOMAIN or INCLUDE statement. On this node neither one is used but as soon as we issue a dsmc i without any additional parameters the NFS mounts are backed up too. Any idea what could be causing this? Thanks for any help in advance! Kind regards, Eric van Loon Air France/KLM Storage Engineering For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286
