Re: Offsite library via fiber

2006-02-17 Thread Schaub, Steve
We are considering it in our shop as well, for specific workloads such
as SQL Server and Exchange.  I would be very interested in any
real-world experience with it.
Steve Schaub
Systems Engineer, WNI
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Does anyone on the list have experience(good or bad) with Data Domain's
DD400 series? It looks like a good bang for the buck, but I'm wondering
about reliability and actual compression experienced in the real
world...

Thanks in advance,

cory

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>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/13/2006 2:31:21 PM >>>

We're doing just that.
Easy to set up if your offsite location is within fibre distance.

Only we are putting the VTL (primary pool) OFFSITE and the 3584 (copy
pool) ONSITE.

Why?

1) Tapes jam.  Drives break.  The 3584 is very reliable, but still
mechanical.  Easier to have it onsite, near us, to manage.  The VTL is
essentially lights out, so it will live offsite.

2) IF we have a disaster, having the VTL offsite means we can do DR
restores without being limited by the number of tape drives we have.
Cool idea, huh?  Means we only need 2 drives in our 3584.  Collocation &
tape mounts are no longer an issue.

And another cool thing:

3) We're even putting a spare Windows server offsite with the VTL, and
making it a backup domain controller.  TSM is already installed on it,
but inactive.  If we have a disaster, all we have to do is restore the
TSM DB.  We can start restoring files then to any machine we can get IP
connectivity to.  Our domain is still up, we don't have to recover AD.

I can hardly wait for the tornado!

Wanda Prather
"I/O, I/O, It's all about I/O"  -(me)



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Subject: Offsite library via fiber


We're thinking of a TSM upgrade that would include a VTL onsite library
and an IBM 3584 library for copy pool tape. We would locate the 3584 in
our offsite storage location and access it via fiber. The tapes would
remain in the 3584 since they would already be offsite.

Anyone have any experience with a setup like this?

Daivd Ehresman
University of Louisville
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Re: Offsite library via fiber

2006-02-17 Thread Cory Heikel
Does anyone on the list have experience(good or bad) with Data Domain's
DD400 series? It looks like a good bang for the buck, but I'm wondering
about reliability and actual compression experienced in the real
world...

Thanks in advance,

cory

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Milton S. Hershey Medical Center
(717) 531-7972

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>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/13/2006 2:31:21 PM >>>

We're doing just that.
Easy to set up if your offsite location is within fibre distance.

Only we are putting the VTL (primary pool) OFFSITE and the 3584 (copy
pool) ONSITE.

Why?

1) Tapes jam.  Drives break.  The 3584 is very reliable, but still
mechanical.  Easier to have it onsite, near us, to manage.  The VTL is
essentially lights out, so it will live offsite.

2) IF we have a disaster, having the VTL offsite means we can do DR
restores without being limited by the number of tape drives we have.
Cool idea, huh?  Means we only need 2 drives in our 3584.  Collocation
&
tape mounts are no longer an issue.

And another cool thing:

3) We're even putting a spare Windows server offsite with the VTL, and
making it a backup domain controller.  TSM is already installed on it,
but inactive.  If we have a disaster, all we have to do is restore the
TSM DB.  We can start restoring files then to any machine we can get
IP
connectivity to.  Our domain is still up, we don't have to recover AD.

I can hardly wait for the tornado!

Wanda Prather
"I/O, I/O, It's all about I/O"  -(me)



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Of
David E Ehresman
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Subject: Offsite library via fiber


We're thinking of a TSM upgrade that would include a VTL onsite
library
and an IBM 3584 library for copy pool tape. We would locate the 3584
in
our offsite storage location and access it via fiber. The tapes would
remain in the 3584 since they would already be offsite.

Anyone have any experience with a setup like this?

Daivd Ehresman
University of Louisville


Re: Offsite library via fiber (Specifically VTL)

2006-02-16 Thread Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM
Hi Leigh!
We also choose a VTL solution (EMC's DL700) over a SATA box with a file
device class because IBM couldn't come up with a reference site of
similar size (180 TB) with a file device class. The only statement we
could get from IBM was: "It will most likely work"...
By the way, we are very happy with the virtual library concept and so
are our customers.
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon

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Leigh Reed
Sent: woensdag 15 februari 2006 11:32
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Subject: Re: Offsite library via fiber (Specifically VTL)

Wanda

I would be intrigued to know your thoughts on why you went specifically
with a VTL with TSM and not a more generic 'low cost' disk arrangement
with sequential files. It is a decision that I am trying to come to
terms with myself and have not yet settled in my mind which I prefer.
Apart from price, if you take into consideration ease of
management/configuration and performance, what decision making processes
did those 2 variables lead you through.

Did you go with IBM TS7510 or EMC CDL or a n other ?
I guess the last $64M question is, are you happy with the decision you
made ?
Many thanks


Leigh


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Prather, Wanda
Sent: 13 February 2006 19:31
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Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Offsite library via fiber

We're doing just that.
Easy to set up if your offsite location is within fibre distance.

Only we are putting the VTL (primary pool) OFFSITE and the 3584 (copy
pool) ONSITE.

Why?

1) Tapes jam.  Drives break.  The 3584 is very reliable, but still
mechanical.  Easier to have it onsite, near us, to manage.  The VTL is
essentially lights out, so it will live offsite.

2) IF we have a disaster, having the VTL offsite means we can do DR
restores without being limited by the number of tape drives we have.
Cool idea, huh?  Means we only need 2 drives in our 3584.  Collocation &
tape mounts are no longer an issue.

And another cool thing:

3) We're even putting a spare Windows server offsite with the VTL, and
making it a backup domain controller.  TSM is already installed on it,
but inactive.  If we have a disaster, all we have to do is restore the
TSM DB.  We can start restoring files then to any machine we can get IP
connectivity to.  Our domain is still up, we don't have to recover AD.

I can hardly wait for the tornado!

Wanda Prather
"I/O, I/O, It's all about I/O"  -(me)



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David E Ehresman
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 3:54 PM
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Subject: Offsite library via fiber


We're thinking of a TSM upgrade that would include a VTL onsite library
and an IBM 3584 library for copy pool tape. We would locate the 3584 in
our offsite storage location and access it via fiber. The tapes would
remain in the 3584 since they would already be offsite.

Anyone have any experience with a setup like this?

Daivd Ehresman
University of Louisville


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Re: Offsite library via fiber

2006-02-15 Thread Andy Huebner
Our only real natural threat is a tornado and we are told by our risk
assessment guys that the odds of one tornado hitting both buildings are
about 2 million to 1.  On top of that the Data Centers are designed to
survive an F3 tornado and continue to operate.
We are not near any military targets or any hazardous chemical plants.
So the odds of an unnatural event are also low. There is risk in
everything, sometimes the UPS guy stops for coffee and leaves the truck
running.

There are longer range plans to take another copy and move it 30km away.


Andy Huebner
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Tab Trepagnier
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Andy,

Others have already pointed out that 3 km might be too close, but
consider
this additional info:

*  After Katrina hit us, the entire - flooded - parish was closed by the
local govenment, so our safely protected tapes were inaccessible for
three
weeks.  Thankfully we had gotten to the point that offsite tape was
"plan
B".

* After 9/11, most of Manhattan was declared a crime scene, so offsite
resources near the WTC were inaccessible even though the buildings
holding
them were undamaged.

Distance is your friend.  And FCIP makes it  easier.

Tab Trepagnier
TSM Administrator
Laitram, L.L.C.









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We are building that setup.  We will have the first part of the offsite
library in place for testing around April.  We will only be 3KM away,
but there are not many 3k wide tornados...

Andy Huebner

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David E Ehresman
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Subject: [ADSM-L] Offsite library via fiber

We're thinking of a TSM upgrade that would include a VTL onsite library
and an IBM 3584 library for copy pool tape. We would locate the 3584 in
our offsite storage location and access it via fiber. The tapes would
remain in the 3584 since they would already be offsite.

Anyone have any experience with a setup like this?

Daivd Ehresman
University of Louisville


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Re: Offsite library via fiber (Specifically VTL)

2006-02-15 Thread Prather, Wanda
Actually, it IS just a big chunk of SATA disk with sequential files, not
a "formal" VTL.
I should have explained, I was using "VTL" the concept, not "VTL" a
product!

But I"ll give you my thinking, anyway:

Advantages to using a VTL(the product):
*   The VTL software does compression for you.  We have to set up
our clients to do compression.  If your client data isn't already
compressed, and you are MOVING existing data from tape back to a pool of
disk - it's gonna expand again.  (We've been using client compression
for the last year because I was planning for this.) 
*   more of a "drop in" and forget it solution, less setup knowledge
required (probably not an issue for very experienced TSM admins)


Advantage of having "just a pool of disk"
*   probably more flexible in terms of being able to expand at will.
We can add-replace drawers with bigger drives.  We can add to our
solution with disk from a different VENDOR if we want.  My past
experience is that the more generic and expandable your hardware
solution, the longer you are able to get return on the investment.  

*   I'm not jazzed that several of the VTL's on the market use
software that comes from a from a 3rd party (shades of Emc buys Clarion
buys Legato buys OTG etc.  Just don't want to go there.  Don't' want to
have to think about what happens to my support 3 years from now.)

BUT, our decision actually was determined by some VERY UNIQUE
requirements we have for purging sensitive data if we need to.  We
create smaller LUNS than most people would so that we can segregate them
and replace chunks of disk physically when we need to.  (Don't ask.)  In
other words, we wanted more control over the internal placement of data.

I think depending on your installation, either can be an excellent
solution.

If you need something relatively small, drop in, VTL is a better way to
go (with a VENDOR YOU TRUST TO BE AROUND FOR A WHILE).
If your shop doesn't have TSM skills, or time to think about it, a VTL
is a better way to go

If you are growing very fast, understand the technology, and need
something with a lot of expandability, I would look more at building
your own solution from building blocks you can be flexible with (and a
VENDOR YOU TRUST TO BE AROUND FOR A WHILE).


My opinions and nobody else's..
Wanda.







  


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Leigh Reed
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 5:32 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Offsite library via fiber (Specifically VTL)


Wanda

I would be intrigued to know your thoughts on why you went specifically
with a VTL with TSM and not a more generic 'low cost' disk arrangement
with sequential files. It is a decision that I am trying to come to
terms with myself and have not yet settled in my mind which I prefer.
Apart from price, if you take into consideration ease of
management/configuration and performance, what decision making processes
did those 2 variables lead you through.

Did you go with IBM TS7510 or EMC CDL or a n other ?
I guess the last $64M question is, are you happy with the decision you
made ?
Many thanks


Leigh


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Prather, Wanda
Sent: 13 February 2006 19:31
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Offsite library via fiber

We're doing just that.
Easy to set up if your offsite location is within fibre distance.

Only we are putting the VTL (primary pool) OFFSITE and the 3584 (copy
pool) ONSITE.

Why?

1) Tapes jam.  Drives break.  The 3584 is very reliable, but still
mechanical.  Easier to have it onsite, near us, to manage.  The VTL is
essentially lights out, so it will live offsite.

2) IF we have a disaster, having the VTL offsite means we can do DR
restores without being limited by the number of tape drives we have.
Cool idea, huh?  Means we only need 2 drives in our 3584.  Collocation &
tape mounts are no longer an issue.

And another cool thing:

3) We're even putting a spare Windows server offsite with the VTL, and
making it a backup domain controller.  TSM is already installed on it,
but inactive.  If we have a disaster, all we have to do is restore the
TSM DB.  We can start restoring files then to any machine we can get IP
connectivity to.  Our domain is still up, we don't have to recover AD.

I can hardly wait for the tornado!

Wanda Prather
"I/O, I/O, It's all about I/O"  -(me)



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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
David E Ehresman
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 3:54 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Offsite library via fiber


We're thinking of a TSM upgrade that would include a VTL onsite library
and an IBM 3584 library for copy pool tape. We would locate the 3584 in
o

Re: Offsite library via fiber (Specifically VTL)

2006-02-15 Thread Leigh Reed
Wanda

I would be intrigued to know your thoughts on why you went specifically
with a VTL with TSM and not a more generic 'low cost' disk arrangement
with sequential files. It is a decision that I am trying to come to
terms with myself and have not yet settled in my mind which I prefer.
Apart from price, if you take into consideration ease of
management/configuration and performance, what decision making processes
did those 2 variables lead you through.

Did you go with IBM TS7510 or EMC CDL or a n other ?
I guess the last $64M question is, are you happy with the decision you
made ?
Many thanks


Leigh


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Prather, Wanda
Sent: 13 February 2006 19:31
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Offsite library via fiber

We're doing just that.
Easy to set up if your offsite location is within fibre distance.

Only we are putting the VTL (primary pool) OFFSITE and the 3584 (copy
pool) ONSITE.

Why?

1) Tapes jam.  Drives break.  The 3584 is very reliable, but still
mechanical.  Easier to have it onsite, near us, to manage.  The VTL is
essentially lights out, so it will live offsite.

2) IF we have a disaster, having the VTL offsite means we can do DR
restores without being limited by the number of tape drives we have.
Cool idea, huh?  Means we only need 2 drives in our 3584.  Collocation &
tape mounts are no longer an issue.

And another cool thing:

3) We're even putting a spare Windows server offsite with the VTL, and
making it a backup domain controller.  TSM is already installed on it,
but inactive.  If we have a disaster, all we have to do is restore the
TSM DB.  We can start restoring files then to any machine we can get IP
connectivity to.  Our domain is still up, we don't have to recover AD.

I can hardly wait for the tornado!

Wanda Prather
"I/O, I/O, It's all about I/O"  -(me)



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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
David E Ehresman
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 3:54 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Offsite library via fiber


We're thinking of a TSM upgrade that would include a VTL onsite library
and an IBM 3584 library for copy pool tape. We would locate the 3584 in
our offsite storage location and access it via fiber. The tapes would
remain in the 3584 since they would already be offsite.

Anyone have any experience with a setup like this?

Daivd Ehresman
University of Louisville


Re: Offsite library via fiber

2006-02-14 Thread Tab Trepagnier
Andy,

Others have already pointed out that 3 km might be too close, but consider
this additional info:

*  After Katrina hit us, the entire - flooded - parish was closed by the
local govenment, so our safely protected tapes were inaccessible for three
weeks.  Thankfully we had gotten to the point that offsite tape was "plan
B".

* After 9/11, most of Manhattan was declared a crime scene, so offsite
resources near the WTC were inaccessible even though the buildings holding
them were undamaged.

Distance is your friend.  And FCIP makes it  easier.

Tab Trepagnier
TSM Administrator
Laitram, L.L.C.









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We are building that setup.  We will have the first part of the offsite
library in place for testing around April.  We will only be 3KM away,
but there are not many 3k wide tornados...

Andy Huebner

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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
David E Ehresman
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 2:54 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] Offsite library via fiber

We're thinking of a TSM upgrade that would include a VTL onsite library
and an IBM 3584 library for copy pool tape. We would locate the 3584 in
our offsite storage location and access it via fiber. The tapes would
remain in the 3584 since they would already be offsite.

Anyone have any experience with a setup like this?

Daivd Ehresman
University of Louisville


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Re: Offsite library via fiber

2006-02-13 Thread Prather, Wanda
Our "offsite" is just another site on a big campus; we've just run our
own fibre there.

We will reclaim the copy pool, for us, 2 drives are enough.
(And the tape drives are onsite, connected via switch to the primary TSM
server.

The only time we will be pushing data to the tape is for backup stgpool
and reclaim.

And on most days, we are pushing < 500GB, so bandwidth isn't an issue at
all.

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>2) IF we have a disaster, having the VTL offsite means we can do DR
>restores without being limited by the number of tape drives we have.
>Cool idea, huh?  Means we only need 2 drives in our 3584.  Collocation
&
>tape mounts are no longer an issue.
>

Wanda,

Does that mean you're not going to reclaim your copy pool?  Or do you
think two dirfves is enough for that?

Do you think you will have any bandwidth issues having to move the data
over the extended fiber twice, during migration and again during backup
stg?

David


Re: Offsite library via fiber

2006-02-13 Thread David E Ehresman
>2) IF we have a disaster, having the VTL offsite means we can do DR
>restores without being limited by the number of tape drives we have.
>Cool idea, huh?  Means we only need 2 drives in our 3584.  Collocation
&
>tape mounts are no longer an issue.
>

Wanda,

Does that mean you're not going to reclaim your copy pool?  Or do you
think two dirfves is enough for that?

Do you think you will have any bandwidth issues having to move the data
over the extended fiber twice, during migration and again during backup
stg?

David


Re: Offsite library via fiber

2006-02-13 Thread Prather, Wanda
We're doing just that.
Easy to set up if your offsite location is within fibre distance.

Only we are putting the VTL (primary pool) OFFSITE and the 3584 (copy
pool) ONSITE.

Why?

1) Tapes jam.  Drives break.  The 3584 is very reliable, but still
mechanical.  Easier to have it onsite, near us, to manage.  The VTL is
essentially lights out, so it will live offsite.

2) IF we have a disaster, having the VTL offsite means we can do DR
restores without being limited by the number of tape drives we have.
Cool idea, huh?  Means we only need 2 drives in our 3584.  Collocation &
tape mounts are no longer an issue.

And another cool thing:

3) We're even putting a spare Windows server offsite with the VTL, and
making it a backup domain controller.  TSM is already installed on it,
but inactive.  If we have a disaster, all we have to do is restore the
TSM DB.  We can start restoring files then to any machine we can get IP
connectivity to.  Our domain is still up, we don't have to recover AD.

I can hardly wait for the tornado!

Wanda Prather
"I/O, I/O, It's all about I/O"  -(me)



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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
David E Ehresman
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 3:54 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Offsite library via fiber


We're thinking of a TSM upgrade that would include a VTL onsite library
and an IBM 3584 library for copy pool tape. We would locate the 3584 in
our offsite storage location and access it via fiber. The tapes would
remain in the 3584 since they would already be offsite.

Anyone have any experience with a setup like this?

Daivd Ehresman
University of Louisville


Re: Offsite library via fiber

2006-02-13 Thread Paul Zarnowski

We're specing something like this out now.  300 mile distance, using FCIP.

At 03:53 PM 2/10/2006, David E Ehresman wrote:

We're thinking of a TSM upgrade that would include a VTL onsite library
and an IBM 3584 library for copy pool tape. We would locate the 3584 in
our offsite storage location and access it via fiber. The tapes would
remain in the 3584 since they would already be offsite.

Anyone have any experience with a setup like this?

Daivd Ehresman
University of Louisville



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Re: Offsite library via fiber

2006-02-13 Thread Rodney clark
We do it with 200 km's only not with a vtl, works nice, can drive the
remote tapes at full capacity.
Dwdm ibm3592 and storage tek drives.

regards

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David E Ehresman
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Subject: Offsite library via fiber


We're thinking of a TSM upgrade that would include a VTL onsite library
and an IBM 3584 library for copy pool tape. We would locate the 3584 in
our offsite storage location and access it via fiber. The tapes would
remain in the 3584 since they would already be offsite.

Anyone have any experience with a setup like this?

Daivd Ehresman
University of Louisville
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Re: Offsite library via fiber

2006-02-10 Thread Talafous, John
This is very much an ideal TSM environment in that manual intervention
to move tape cartridges has been eliminated. A tip of the hat to the
architect!!!  This is VERY doable and the only gotcha I can think of is
the fibre distance restrictions. 


John G. Talafous
Berbee Information Networks
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216.470.7381
http://www.berbee.com


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David E Ehresman
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To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] Offsite library via fiber

We're thinking of a TSM upgrade that would include a VTL onsite library
and an IBM 3584 library for copy pool tape. We would locate the 3584 in
our offsite storage location and access it via fiber. The tapes would
remain in the 3584 since they would already be offsite.

Anyone have any experience with a setup like this?

Daivd Ehresman
University of Louisville


Re: Offsite library via fiber

2006-02-10 Thread Gee, Norman
 The tornados may not be 3 km wide, but it can travel 3 km and hit both
buildings   I get a lotto ticket if that happens.

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Andy Huebner
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Subject: Re: Offsite library via fiber

We are building that setup.  We will have the first part of the offsite
library in place for testing around April.  We will only be 3KM away,
but there are not many 3k wide tornados...

Andy Huebner


Re: Offsite library via fiber

2006-02-10 Thread Andy Huebner
We are building that setup.  We will have the first part of the offsite
library in place for testing around April.  We will only be 3KM away,
but there are not many 3k wide tornados...

Andy Huebner

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Subject: [ADSM-L] Offsite library via fiber

We're thinking of a TSM upgrade that would include a VTL onsite library
and an IBM 3584 library for copy pool tape. We would locate the 3584 in
our offsite storage location and access it via fiber. The tapes would
remain in the 3584 since they would already be offsite.

Anyone have any experience with a setup like this?

Daivd Ehresman
University of Louisville


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Offsite library via fiber

2006-02-10 Thread David E Ehresman
We're thinking of a TSM upgrade that would include a VTL onsite library
and an IBM 3584 library for copy pool tape. We would locate the 3584 in
our offsite storage location and access it via fiber. The tapes would
remain in the 3584 since they would already be offsite.

Anyone have any experience with a setup like this?

Daivd Ehresman
University of Louisville