Re: Opinion on disk layout for db, log & storagepools

2010-09-27 Thread Skylar Thompson
Do you know what your workload is going to be? For database sizing, you
need to know how many files total you will retain. For storage pool
sizing, you need to know your average and peak daily backup rates in
bytes. For recovery log sizing, you need to know how many files you will
backup in a single backup session.

On 09/27/2010 08:20 AM, Moyer, Joni M wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I am in the process of acquiring new disk which means that I will be able to 
> layout the storage for the database, log and storage pools in a more 
> efficient manner.  I was told by IBM that a filesystem should contain no more 
> than 2-3 volumes and there should be a 1 to 1 ratio of physical disk volumes 
> to TSM volumes.
>
> I was thinking about doing the following but I was wondering if there is a 
> known limit to the size of a volume that should be used for the database or 
> storage pools?  And should I have more storagepool volumes created per 
> storagepool?
>
> Any suggestions/opinions are greatly appreciated
>
> 3 filesystems that are 50 GB each with 1 physical 50 GB LUN with 2 TSM 
> database volume per filesystem:
>
> Filesystem  VolumeSize (GB)
> /tsmdev/db1 dbvol1  25
>   dbvol2  25
> /tsmdev/db2 dbvol3  25
>   dbvol4  25
> /tsmdev/db3 dbvol5  25
>   dbvol6  25
>
> For my log volumes I'm just going to create 1 filesystem with 1- 15 GB lun 
> and then create 3- 4 GB log volumes from it:
>
> Filesystem  Volume   Size (GB)
> /tsmdev/logfs   logvol1  4
>   logvol2  4
>   logvol3  4
>
> Storage pools:
>
> Filesystem  Volume
> Size (GB)
> /tsmdev/stgpool1   vol150 
>   Represents AIX storagepool
> Vol2   50 
>   Represents Sharepoint storagepool
> /tsmdev/stgpool2   vol3250
>  Represents vol1 of Linux storagepool
> Vol4   
> 250 Represents vol2 of Linux storagepool
> /tsmdev/stgpool3   vol5250
>  Represents vol1 of Oracle storagepool
> Vol6   
> 250 Represents vol2 of Oracle storagepool
> /tsmdev/stgpool4   vol7125
>  Represents Lotus Notes storagepool
> Vol8   
> 125 Represents Solaris storagepool
> /tsmdev/stgpool5   vol9200
>  Represents vol1 of Windows storagepool
> Vol10 200 
> Represents vol2 of Windows storagepool
> Vol11 200 
> Represents vol3 of Windows storagepool
>
>
> 
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Re: Opinion on disk layout for db, log & storagepools

2010-09-27 Thread Paul Zarnowski
You didn't say whether this was for a v5 or a v6 server.  It makes a 
difference.  On the v6 side, I think that IBM has recently been refining their 
recommendations.

..Paul

At 11:20 AM 9/27/2010, Moyer, Joni M wrote:
>Hi Everyone,
>
>I am in the process of acquiring new disk which means that I will be able to 
>layout the storage for the database, log and storage pools in a more efficient 
>manner.  I was told by IBM that a filesystem should contain no more than 2-3 
>volumes and there should be a 1 to 1 ratio of physical disk volumes to TSM 
>volumes.
>
>I was thinking about doing the following but I was wondering if there is a 
>known limit to the size of a volume that should be used for the database or 
>storage pools?  And should I have more storagepool volumes created per 
>storagepool?
>
>Any suggestions/opinions are greatly appreciated
>
>3 filesystems that are 50 GB each with 1 physical 50 GB LUN with 2 TSM 
>database volume per filesystem:
>
>Filesystem  VolumeSize (GB)
>/tsmdev/db1 dbvol1  25
>  dbvol2  25
>/tsmdev/db2 dbvol3  25
>  dbvol4  25
>/tsmdev/db3 dbvol5  25
>  dbvol6  25
>
>For my log volumes I'm just going to create 1 filesystem with 1- 15 GB lun and 
>then create 3- 4 GB log volumes from it:
>
>Filesystem  Volume   Size (GB)
>/tsmdev/logfs   logvol1  4
>  logvol2  4
>  logvol3  4
>
>Storage pools:
>
>Filesystem  VolumeSize 
>(GB)
>/tsmdev/stgpool1   vol150  
> Represents AIX storagepool
>Vol2   50  
>  Represents Sharepoint storagepool
>/tsmdev/stgpool2   vol3250 
>Represents vol1 of Linux storagepool
>Vol4   250 
> Represents vol2 of Linux storagepool
>/tsmdev/stgpool3   vol5250 
>Represents vol1 of Oracle storagepool
>Vol6   250 
> Represents vol2 of Oracle storagepool
>/tsmdev/stgpool4   vol7125 
>Represents Lotus Notes storagepool
>Vol8   125 
> Represents Solaris storagepool
>/tsmdev/stgpool5   vol9200 
>Represents vol1 of Windows storagepool
>Vol10 200  
>Represents vol2 of Windows storagepool
>Vol11 200  
>Represents vol3 of Windows storagepool
>
>
>
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Re: Opinion on disk layout for db, log & storagepools

2010-09-27 Thread Richard Sims
I would principally follow IBM's recommendations as put forth in the TSM 
Performance Tuning Guide.  You seem to be running AIX, where putting volumes 
into a file system is the inferior approach to raw logical volumes (which I 
use, and have found satisfying).

   Richard Sims


Opinion on disk layout for db, log & storagepools

2010-09-27 Thread Moyer, Joni M
Hi Everyone,

I am in the process of acquiring new disk which means that I will be able to 
layout the storage for the database, log and storage pools in a more efficient 
manner.  I was told by IBM that a filesystem should contain no more than 2-3 
volumes and there should be a 1 to 1 ratio of physical disk volumes to TSM 
volumes.

I was thinking about doing the following but I was wondering if there is a 
known limit to the size of a volume that should be used for the database or 
storage pools?  And should I have more storagepool volumes created per 
storagepool?

Any suggestions/opinions are greatly appreciated

3 filesystems that are 50 GB each with 1 physical 50 GB LUN with 2 TSM database 
volume per filesystem:

Filesystem  VolumeSize (GB)
/tsmdev/db1 dbvol1  25
  dbvol2  25
/tsmdev/db2 dbvol3  25
  dbvol4  25
/tsmdev/db3 dbvol5  25
  dbvol6  25

For my log volumes I'm just going to create 1 filesystem with 1- 15 GB lun and 
then create 3- 4 GB log volumes from it:

Filesystem  Volume   Size (GB)
/tsmdev/logfs   logvol1  4
  logvol2  4
  logvol3  4

Storage pools:

Filesystem  VolumeSize 
(GB)
/tsmdev/stgpool1   vol150   
Represents AIX storagepool
Vol2   50   
Represents Sharepoint storagepool
/tsmdev/stgpool2   vol3250  
   Represents vol1 of Linux storagepool
Vol4   250  
   Represents vol2 of Linux storagepool
/tsmdev/stgpool3   vol5250  
   Represents vol1 of Oracle storagepool
Vol6   250  
   Represents vol2 of Oracle storagepool
/tsmdev/stgpool4   vol7125  
   Represents Lotus Notes storagepool
Vol8   125  
   Represents Solaris storagepool
/tsmdev/stgpool5   vol9200  
   Represents vol1 of Windows storagepool
Vol10 200   
  Represents vol2 of Windows storagepool
Vol11 200   
  Represents vol3 of Windows storagepool



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