Re: Resend - Policy and DRP question

2006-04-11 Thread Ben Bullock
I'll take a stab at this.

You now keep 10 versions of a file and you do a daily backup. It sounds like 
you want to be able to guarantee your ability to roll back or recover the TSM 
the server to 10 days ago. If that is the case you would need to make sure that:
- The "delete volhist" command was changed to keep 10 days of DB tapes.
- The resuse delay on empty tapes should be set to 10 days also.

And yes, you will want to keep the last 10 days of DB tapes offsite to 
meet your DR objectives.

In our situation, our default management class keeps "up to 5 copies of 
a file up to 30 days. And we keep the last couple versions for 180 days once a 
file is deleted." Does that mean we should keep 30 days worth of DB tapes? No. 
we keep a week's worth of DB backups offsite for DR because we could never 
really seeing ourselves rolling back the TSM server 8 days. It think that 1 or 
2 weeks is pretty standard for folks on this list.

Ben
 

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Dudley
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 10:49 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Resend - Policy and DRP question

I sent this query a week ago but have not received a reply back. I am resending 
in the hope that someone can offer some advice.

We have TSM version 5.2

I have changed the standard policy so that we now keep the 10 latest versions 
of each file rather than 7.

I have also changed our del volhist to tod=today-10 where it was previously 7.

I have been told that previously we had to keep the 7 latest copy tapes and db 
tapes offsite for DRP to ensure that we could recover complete servers. With 
the changes that I have made does this mean that we have to now keep the 10 
latest tapes offsite for complete DRP?

 
Paul Dudley
ANL IT Operations Dept.
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Re: Resend - Policy and DRP question

2006-04-11 Thread Jack Coats
The question is: does this mean that we have
to now keep the 10 latest tapes offsite for complete DRP?

>From what I am seeing it says you are now defining the process to keep 10 
>tapes un-used.  If you keep them off site, so much the better for disaster 
>preparedness.

You do not have to change the retention of your database backups to retain 
additional versions of data.  

Changing the 'del volhist' you did is reasonable since you are changing the 
retention of database tapes too the same retention.  

Now I could be totally off base, lets see if a more experienced eye has an 
opinion too.

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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Dudley
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 11:49 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] Resend - Policy and DRP question

I sent this query a week ago but have not received a reply back. I am
resending in the hope that someone can offer some advice.

We have TSM version 5.2

I have changed the standard policy so that we now keep the 10 latest
versions of each file rather than 7.

I have also changed our del volhist to tod=today-10 where it was
previously 7.

I have been told that previously we had to keep the 7 latest copy tapes
and db tapes offsite for DRP to ensure that we could recover complete
servers. With the changes that I have made does this mean that we have
to now keep the 10 latest tapes offsite for complete DRP?

 
Paul Dudley
ANL IT Operations Dept.
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Re: Resend - Policy and DRP question

2006-04-11 Thread David E Ehresman
You should keep ALL of your copypool tapes offsite.  You should keep TSM
db backup tapes offsite to match your 'del volhist'. You should set your
reuse delay for your offsite copy storage pool to match the length of
time you keep your tsm db backups, in your case 10 days. This last
requirement of good DR is why most folks only keep a small number of TSM
DB backups. We have reuse delay and DRMDBBACKUPEXPIREDAYS set to 5
days.

David Ehresman
University of Louisville

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4/11/2006 12:49:01 AM >>>
I sent this query a week ago but have not received a reply back. I am
resending in the hope that someone can offer some advice.

We have TSM version 5.2

I have changed the standard policy so that we now keep the 10 latest
versions of each file rather than 7.

I have also changed our del volhist to tod=today-10 where it was
previously 7.

I have been told that previously we had to keep the 7 latest copy
tapes
and db tapes offsite for DRP to ensure that we could recover complete
servers. With the changes that I have made does this mean that we have
to now keep the 10 latest tapes offsite for complete DRP?


Paul Dudley
ANL IT Operations Dept.
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Resend - Policy and DRP question

2006-04-10 Thread Paul Dudley
I sent this query a week ago but have not received a reply back. I am
resending in the hope that someone can offer some advice.

We have TSM version 5.2

I have changed the standard policy so that we now keep the 10 latest
versions of each file rather than 7.

I have also changed our del volhist to tod=today-10 where it was
previously 7.

I have been told that previously we had to keep the 7 latest copy tapes
and db tapes offsite for DRP to ensure that we could recover complete
servers. With the changes that I have made does this mean that we have
to now keep the 10 latest tapes offsite for complete DRP?

 
Paul Dudley
ANL IT Operations Dept.
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Re: Policy and DRP question

2006-04-04 Thread Richard Sims

TSM is not tape-oriented: it is stored-object-oriented.
The copy storage pool contains an image of your primary pool(s)
according to the policies for the objects stored in the primary pool.
Your DR practices need to keep a copy of all data objects offsite,
not just a fixed number of tapes.  You're not preserving media -
you're preserving data.

  Richard Sims

On Apr 4, 2006, at 12:34 AM, Paul Dudley wrote:


We have TSM version 5.2

I have changed the standard policy so that we now keep the 10 latest
versions of each file rather than 7.

I have also changed our del volhist to tod=today-10 where it was
previously 7.

I have been told that previously we had to keep the 7 latest copy
tapes
and db tapes offsite for DRP to ensure that we could recover complete
servers. With the changes that I have made does this mean that we have
to now keep the 10 latest tapes offsite for complete DRP?


Policy and DRP question

2006-04-03 Thread Paul Dudley
We have TSM version 5.2

I have changed the standard policy so that we now keep the 10 latest
versions of each file rather than 7.

I have also changed our del volhist to tod=today-10 where it was
previously 7.

I have been told that previously we had to keep the 7 latest copy tapes
and db tapes offsite for DRP to ensure that we could recover complete
servers. With the changes that I have made does this mean that we have
to now keep the 10 latest tapes offsite for complete DRP?

 
Paul Dudley
ANL IT Operations Dept.
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