Re: Question on tape format

2008-07-31 Thread Shawn Drew
I didn't see it mentioned yet, but there is also TSMtape and the older
adsmtape programs on sourceforge:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/tsmtape

Regards,
Shawn

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The short answer is that unencrypted TSM tapes are totally readable by a
determined black hat.  No, they can't be imported by another TSM server,
and no the format isn't published by IBM.  But the format has been cracked
by at least two COMMERCIAL products:

www.indexengines.com

They sell an appliance that you can feed TSM/NBU/NW/ARCServe/BE tapes to.
Not only will they be read, it will generate a FULL TEXT searchable index
of the content on those tapes.  (You'll be able to say give me all the
emails/files with this word in them.)

All a blackhat needs to do is buy one of these boxes and the appropriate
tape drive and they've got your data.

www.sepaton.com

While this wouldn't be used to steal data, they the SEPATON VTL has also
cracked the format, as they use it to do their content-aware
deduplication.  That wouldn't be possible if they hadn't already cracked
the format enough to pull it apart and look at the files inside it.

Finally, if these two companies could crack the format with NO HELP from
IBM, so could a determined black hat.  Yes, it would take them a long
time, but it's within the realm of possibility.

All of the comments in the QuickFacts guide are also true.  The are all
sorts of difficulties with reading tapes outside a backup product, and the
only true way to be sure of the security of your data is to encrypt it.

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Subject: [ADSM-L] Question on tape format

I just talked with our Security Officer and was asked:

If our tapes are stolen while in transit, what data could be gotten off of
them?

Has anyone on the list ever tried reading a copypool tape outside of TSM?
If so, what was actually on it? I know the data is there, but does it
reference file or node names in any way? Is the data itself actually
readable?

Thanks,
cory


Cory Heikel
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Hershey Medical Center
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Re: Question on tape format

2008-07-31 Thread Remco Post

Quoting Shawn Drew [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


I didn't see it mentioned yet, but there is also TSMtape and the older
adsmtape programs on sourceforge:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/tsmtape



What I'm now wondering, has anyone seen any of these
programs/solutions work relyably?


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Question on tape format

2008-07-30 Thread Cory Heikel
I just talked with our Security Officer and was asked:
 
If our tapes are stolen while in transit, what data could be gotten off of them?
 
Has anyone on the list ever tried reading a copypool tape outside of TSM? If 
so, what was actually on it? I know the data is there, but does it reference 
file or node names in any way? Is the data itself actually readable?
 
Thanks,
cory
 
 
Cory Heikel
Tivoli Systems Administrator
Hershey Medical Center
(717) 531-7972


Re: Question on tape format

2008-07-30 Thread Richard Sims

Cory -

SeeTape security
in http://people.bu.edu/rbs/ADSM.QuickFacts
for the general, cumulative answer.

  Richard Sims


Re: Question on tape format

2008-07-30 Thread Curtis Preston
The short answer is that unencrypted TSM tapes are totally readable by a 
determined black hat.  No, they can't be imported by another TSM server, and no 
the format isn't published by IBM.  But the format has been cracked by at least 
two COMMERCIAL products:

www.indexengines.com

They sell an appliance that you can feed TSM/NBU/NW/ARCServe/BE tapes to.  Not 
only will they be read, it will generate a FULL TEXT searchable index of the 
content on those tapes.  (You'll be able to say give me all the emails/files 
with this word in them.)

All a blackhat needs to do is buy one of these boxes and the appropriate tape 
drive and they've got your data.

www.sepaton.com

While this wouldn't be used to steal data, they the SEPATON VTL has also 
cracked the format, as they use it to do their content-aware deduplication.  
That wouldn't be possible if they hadn't already cracked the format enough to 
pull it apart and look at the files inside it.

Finally, if these two companies could crack the format with NO HELP from IBM, 
so could a determined black hat.  Yes, it would take them a long time, but it's 
within the realm of possibility.

All of the comments in the QuickFacts guide are also true.  The are all sorts 
of difficulties with reading tapes outside a backup product, and the only true 
way to be sure of the security of your data is to encrypt it.

Curtis Preston  |  VP Data Protection  
GlassHouse Technologies, Inc.
 
T: +1 760 710 2004 |  C: +1 760 419 5838 |  F: F: +1 760 710 2009  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] |  www.glasshouse.com
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-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cory Heikel
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 12:25 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] Question on tape format

I just talked with our Security Officer and was asked:
 
If our tapes are stolen while in transit, what data could be gotten off of them?
 
Has anyone on the list ever tried reading a copypool tape outside of TSM? If 
so, what was actually on it? I know the data is there, but does it reference 
file or node names in any way? Is the data itself actually readable?
 
Thanks,
cory
 
 
Cory Heikel
Tivoli Systems Administrator
Hershey Medical Center
(717) 531-7972





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