Re: RESTORING TO FOREIGN HARDWARE (DIFFERENT RAID CONTROLLERS)

2002-08-26 Thread William Rosette

Could I ask you how much you had to install (EDC) in the 72 hours you had,
and how did it go?  We just got back from a DR Test and only had 48 hours
to restore our Financials, HR, and Polling with a total of about 500 GB,
and would had done it if SQL backtrack would have restored correctly.



Thank You,
Bill Rosette
Data Center/IS/Papa Johns International
WWJD



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Then Mike, how do you overcome this issue? ... I too am working on DR
testing, and the timeing is tight.

-Original Message-
[snip]

I have gone down the windows repair route but this takes ages due to all
the re-boots to load the drivers.  I only have a 72 hour SLA to recover our
EDC so the timescales are tight.

Regards,
Michael Swinhoe
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Re: RESTORING TO FOREIGN HARDWARE (DIFFERENT RAID CONTROLLERS)

2002-08-17 Thread Bill Boyer

Until you get to 4.2 or higher AND the apar is fixed, you could use the
NTBACKUP command to save the system state (as Microsoft calls it) to a flat
file. Run this as a preschedulecmd. We had success with recoveries of
systems that were pre 4.2 at one site. Then your recovery becomes, Load 2K,
Restore the C: drive, then use NTBACKUP to restore the system state from the
restored file.

Bill Boyer
DSS, Inc.

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Don France
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If your backup data was done using 4.2 or later, Wanda's recovery document
(for a basic server) should work fine;  you do a basic/minimal operating
system install, including the device specific drivers, then fully restore
boot-system drive (C:, right?), do not re-boot until System Objects are
restored.

BUT NOTE: There is an APAR for this issue, as well; IC34015 which has to do
with restoring/not-restoring device specific keys (such as the case you
describe)...
This affects 4.2 and 5.1 TSM Clients on Windows 2000 and XP.

Hope this helps.


Don France
Technical Architect -- Tivoli Certified Consultant
Tivoli Storage Manager, WinNT/2K, AIX/Unix, OS/390
San Jose, Ca
(408) 257-3037
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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I have gone down the windows repair route but this takes ages due to all
the re-boots to load the drivers.  I only have a 72 hour SLA to recover our
EDC so the timescales are tight.

Regards,
Michael Swinhoe
Storage Management Group
Zurich Financial Services (UKISA) Ltd.
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If this is a Win2k machine, have you already done a windows repair after
the restore was complete?

Rob Schroeder
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I have hit a brick wall and I need some help.

I am currently trying to restore some Compaq servers running W2K with
different Raid Controllers (3200  5300).  I have successfully managed to
recover a Compaq server with a 5300 raid controller onto a Compaq server
with a 3200 raid controller.  However when I try to do the opposite the
server blue screens.  Has anyone tried to do the same and if so which
registrey keys needed changed or is the solution simpler than this?  Or is
there a piece of software out there that would make the process run more
smoothly with out much manual intervention.

Thanks as always,

Mike.

Regards,
Michael Swinhoe
Storage Management Group
Zurich Financial Services (UKISA) Ltd.
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Re: RESTORING TO FOREIGN HARDWARE (DIFFERENT RAID CONTROLLERS)

2002-08-17 Thread Don France

Outstanding suggestion, Bill;  that's exactly what we did for a customer
with all Win2K servers at 12 locations around the world.  We even did
validated both (a) domain controller (with Active Directory), and (b)
Exchange 5.5 server recovery using the NTbackup trick for System State
backups -- I think they're still doing it that way, which totally avoids the
limitations of TSM client!

Don France
Technical Architect -- Tivoli Certified Consultant
Tivoli Storage Manager, WinNT/2K, AIX/Unix, OS/390
San Jose, Ca
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Until you get to 4.2 or higher AND the apar is fixed, you could use the
NTBACKUP command to save the system state (as Microsoft calls it) to a flat
file. Run this as a preschedulecmd. We had success with recoveries of
systems that were pre 4.2 at one site. Then your recovery becomes, Load 2K,
Restore the C: drive, then use NTBACKUP to restore the system state from the
restored file.

Bill Boyer
DSS, Inc.

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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Don France
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 6:28 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: RESTORING TO FOREIGN HARDWARE (DIFFERENT RAID CONTROLLERS)


If your backup data was done using 4.2 or later, Wanda's recovery document
(for a basic server) should work fine;  you do a basic/minimal operating
system install, including the device specific drivers, then fully restore
boot-system drive (C:, right?), do not re-boot until System Objects are
restored.

BUT NOTE: There is an APAR for this issue, as well; IC34015 which has to do
with restoring/not-restoring device specific keys (such as the case you
describe)...
This affects 4.2 and 5.1 TSM Clients on Windows 2000 and XP.

Hope this helps.


Don France
Technical Architect -- Tivoli Certified Consultant
Tivoli Storage Manager, WinNT/2K, AIX/Unix, OS/390
San Jose, Ca
(408) 257-3037
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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I have gone down the windows repair route but this takes ages due to all
the re-boots to load the drivers.  I only have a 72 hour SLA to recover our
EDC so the timescales are tight.

Regards,
Michael Swinhoe
Storage Management Group
Zurich Financial Services (UKISA) Ltd.
E-mail:   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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If this is a Win2k machine, have you already done a windows repair after
the restore was complete?

Rob Schroeder
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I have hit a brick wall and I need some help.

I am currently trying to restore some Compaq servers running W2K with
different Raid Controllers (3200  5300).  I have successfully managed to
recover a Compaq server with a 5300 raid controller onto a Compaq server
with a 3200 raid controller.  However when I try to do the opposite the
server blue screens.  Has anyone tried to do the same and if so which
registrey keys needed changed or is the solution simpler than this?  Or is
there a piece of software out there that would make the process run more
smoothly with out much manual intervention.

Thanks as always,

Mike.

Regards,
Michael Swinhoe
Storage Management Group
Zurich Financial Services (UKISA) Ltd.
E-mail:   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

RESTORING TO FOREIGN HARDWARE (DIFFERENT RAID CONTROLLERS)

2002-08-16 Thread Michael Swinhoe

I have hit a brick wall and I need some help.

I am currently trying to restore some Compaq servers running W2K with
different Raid Controllers (3200  5300).  I have successfully managed to
recover a Compaq server with a 5300 raid controller onto a Compaq server
with a 3200 raid controller.  However when I try to do the opposite the
server blue screens.  Has anyone tried to do the same and if so which
registrey keys needed changed or is the solution simpler than this?  Or is
there a piece of software out there that would make the process run more
smoothly with out much manual intervention.

Thanks as always,

Mike.

Regards,
Michael Swinhoe
Storage Management Group
Zurich Financial Services (UKISA) Ltd.
E-mail:   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Re: RESTORING TO FOREIGN HARDWARE (DIFFERENT RAID CONTROLLERS)

2002-08-16 Thread Rob Schroeder

If this is a Win2k machine, have you already done a windows repair after
the restore was complete?

Rob Schroeder
Famous Footwear




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I have hit a brick wall and I need some help.

I am currently trying to restore some Compaq servers running W2K with
different Raid Controllers (3200  5300).  I have successfully managed to
recover a Compaq server with a 5300 raid controller onto a Compaq server
with a 3200 raid controller.  However when I try to do the opposite the
server blue screens.  Has anyone tried to do the same and if so which
registrey keys needed changed or is the solution simpler than this?  Or is
there a piece of software out there that would make the process run more
smoothly with out much manual intervention.

Thanks as always,

Mike.

Regards,
Michael Swinhoe
Storage Management Group
Zurich Financial Services (UKISA) Ltd.
E-mail:   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Re: RESTORING TO FOREIGN HARDWARE (DIFFERENT RAID CONTROLLERS)

2002-08-16 Thread Michael Swinhoe

I have gone down the windows repair route but this takes ages due to all
the re-boots to load the drivers.  I only have a 72 hour SLA to recover our
EDC so the timescales are tight.

Regards,
Michael Swinhoe
Storage Management Group
Zurich Financial Services (UKISA) Ltd.
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If this is a Win2k machine, have you already done a windows repair after
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Rob Schroeder
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I have hit a brick wall and I need some help.

I am currently trying to restore some Compaq servers running W2K with
different Raid Controllers (3200  5300).  I have successfully managed to
recover a Compaq server with a 5300 raid controller onto a Compaq server
with a 3200 raid controller.  However when I try to do the opposite the
server blue screens.  Has anyone tried to do the same and if so which
registrey keys needed changed or is the solution simpler than this?  Or is
there a piece of software out there that would make the process run more
smoothly with out much manual intervention.

Thanks as always,

Mike.

Regards,
Michael Swinhoe
Storage Management Group
Zurich Financial Services (UKISA) Ltd.
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Re: RESTORING TO FOREIGN HARDWARE (DIFFERENT RAID CONTROLLERS)

2002-08-16 Thread Coats, Jack

Then Mike, how do you overcome this issue? ... I too am working on DR
testing, and the timeing is tight.

-Original Message-
[snip]

I have gone down the windows repair route but this takes ages due to all
the re-boots to load the drivers.  I only have a 72 hour SLA to recover our
EDC so the timescales are tight.

Regards,
Michael Swinhoe
[snip]



Re: RESTORING TO FOREIGN HARDWARE (DIFFERENT RAID CONTROLLERS)

2002-08-16 Thread Don France

If your backup data was done using 4.2 or later, Wanda's recovery document
(for a basic server) should work fine;  you do a basic/minimal operating
system install, including the device specific drivers, then fully restore
boot-system drive (C:, right?), do not re-boot until System Objects are
restored.

BUT NOTE: There is an APAR for this issue, as well; IC34015 which has to do
with restoring/not-restoring device specific keys (such as the case you
describe)...
This affects 4.2 and 5.1 TSM Clients on Windows 2000 and XP.

Hope this helps.


Don France
Technical Architect -- Tivoli Certified Consultant
Tivoli Storage Manager, WinNT/2K, AIX/Unix, OS/390
San Jose, Ca
(408) 257-3037
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-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Michael Swinhoe
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 7:50 AM
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Subject: Re: RESTORING TO FOREIGN HARDWARE (DIFFERENT RAID CONTROLLERS)


I have gone down the windows repair route but this takes ages due to all
the re-boots to load the drivers.  I only have a 72 hour SLA to recover our
EDC so the timescales are tight.

Regards,
Michael Swinhoe
Storage Management Group
Zurich Financial Services (UKISA) Ltd.
E-mail:   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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If this is a Win2k machine, have you already done a windows repair after
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Rob Schroeder
Famous Footwear




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I have hit a brick wall and I need some help.

I am currently trying to restore some Compaq servers running W2K with
different Raid Controllers (3200  5300).  I have successfully managed to
recover a Compaq server with a 5300 raid controller onto a Compaq server
with a 3200 raid controller.  However when I try to do the opposite the
server blue screens.  Has anyone tried to do the same and if so which
registrey keys needed changed or is the solution simpler than this?  Or is
there a piece of software out there that would make the process run more
smoothly with out much manual intervention.

Thanks as always,

Mike.

Regards,
Michael Swinhoe
Storage Management Group
Zurich Financial Services (UKISA) Ltd.
E-mail:   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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