Re: Backup and restore of NDS on Netware

2002-03-05 Thread David Longo

I looked at our new 4.2 install and sure enough there was ntwback.htm.
It seems to have some good info, our Netware Admin is looking at it.
I never think of looking at these docs other than the READEME's.  The
PDF doc for Netware didn't seem to have any detail info.

Thanks,
David Longo

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This is a really good doc which comes with the install package of TSM for
netware.
It's located in the install directory of the client.

This is an old document which hasn't been updated since V3 but is still
very informative on
TSM and NetWare.

Hope this helps...

(See attached file: Ntwback.htm)

Regards,

Denis L. L'Huiller
973-360-7739
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Enterprise Storage Forms ->
http://admpwb01/misc/misc/storage_forms_main.html 



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As we were preparing to move Netware clients from TSM 3.7 to 4.2.1.19, we
did a test on one machine.  In the process we had to modify the DOMAIN in
dsm.opt file.  Reading the Tivoli manual on Netware client it states that
NDS
is NOT backed up with DOMAIN All-Local.  We then specified NDS: in the
DOMAIN on this test case.  As we further investigated, we realized that we
haven't been backing up NDS!

We have a tree structure here,  different machines have access to different
parts of the NDS tree.  Also has replication to other machines.  We have
primarily Netware 5.1 and moving soon (maybe) to 6.0.  We have had a
couple of instances where we restored SYS: but never had to restore NDS.
It would seem we only have to backup NDS on certain servers, not all.

Has someone some experience in this area?  Can you reference a document
that covers this specifically?

Thanks,
David Longo


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Re: Backup and restore of NDS on Netware

2002-03-05 Thread Miller, Ryan

If the session is active on the TSM server, cancel it there first, then you should be 
able to unload it on the Netware box.  If there is no session on the TSM server, the 
only way we have been able to correct this is with a reboot.  You shouldn't have 
numerous instances of this, if you do, you should look at upgrading your client 
software.

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From: William Rosette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 4:25 PM
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Is there an easier way of rebouncing the dsmc sched scheduler on Netware
without having to reboot the machine?  Seems like every time I go to check
a hung scheduler, I try to unload and then load.  When unloading, it never
comes down and thus hangs the server prompt.  Only way out is to reboot
server so that hanging will unhang and restart scheduler (it is in the
autoexec.nlm)



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This is a really good doc which comes with the install package of TSM for
netware.
It's located in the install directory of the client.

This is an old document which hasn't been updated since V3 but is still
very informative on
TSM and NetWare.

Hope this helps...

(See attached file: Ntwback.htm)

Regards,

Denis L. L'Huiller
973-360-7739
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Enterprise Storage Forms ->
http://admpwb01/misc/misc/storage_forms_main.html



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As we were preparing to move Netware clients from TSM 3.7 to 4.2.1.19, we
did a test on one machine.  In the process we had to modify the DOMAIN in
dsm.opt file.  Reading the Tivoli manual on Netware client it states that
NDS
is NOT backed up with DOMAIN All-Local.  We then specified NDS: in the
DOMAIN on this test case.  As we further investigated, we realized that we
haven't been backing up NDS!

We have a tree structure here,  different machines have access to different
parts of the NDS tree.  Also has replication to other machines.  We have
primarily Netware 5.1 and moving soon (maybe) to 6.0.  We have had a
couple of instances where we restored SYS: but never had to restore NDS.
It would seem we only have to backup NDS on certain servers, not all.

Has someone some experience in this area?  Can you reference a document
that covers this specifically?

Thanks,
David Longo


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Re: Backup and restore of NDS on Netware

2002-03-05 Thread William Rosette

Is there an easier way of rebouncing the dsmc sched scheduler on Netware
without having to reboot the machine?  Seems like every time I go to check
a hung scheduler, I try to unload and then load.  When unloading, it never
comes down and thus hangs the server prompt.  Only way out is to reboot
server so that hanging will unhang and restart scheduler (it is in the
autoexec.nlm)



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This is a really good doc which comes with the install package of TSM for
netware.
It's located in the install directory of the client.

This is an old document which hasn't been updated since V3 but is still
very informative on
TSM and NetWare.

Hope this helps...

(See attached file: Ntwback.htm)

Regards,

Denis L. L'Huiller
973-360-7739
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Enterprise Storage Forms ->
http://admpwb01/misc/misc/storage_forms_main.html



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As we were preparing to move Netware clients from TSM 3.7 to 4.2.1.19, we
did a test on one machine.  In the process we had to modify the DOMAIN in
dsm.opt file.  Reading the Tivoli manual on Netware client it states that
NDS
is NOT backed up with DOMAIN All-Local.  We then specified NDS: in the
DOMAIN on this test case.  As we further investigated, we realized that we
haven't been backing up NDS!

We have a tree structure here,  different machines have access to different
parts of the NDS tree.  Also has replication to other machines.  We have
primarily Netware 5.1 and moving soon (maybe) to 6.0.  We have had a
couple of instances where we restored SYS: but never had to restore NDS.
It would seem we only have to backup NDS on certain servers, not all.

Has someone some experience in this area?  Can you reference a document
that covers this specifically?

Thanks,
David Longo


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Re: Backup and restore of NDS on Netware

2002-03-05 Thread Jim Kirkman

David,

Are you asking how to best backup your NDS structure?

You are correct, you only need to back up NDS from selected servers. We have a primary 
NDS box and a couple that hold replicas of the domain. Luckily we have never had to 
restore that structure, our testing has been successfull but painfully slow.

So, pick a few servers and put the domain all-local NDS statement in the option file. 
The Netware admins are responsible for keeping enough valid copies of the tree around.

David Longo wrote:

> As we were preparing to move Netware clients from TSM 3.7 to 4.2.1.19, we
> did a test on one machine.  In the process we had to modify the DOMAIN in
> dsm.opt file.  Reading the Tivoli manual on Netware client it states that NDS
> is NOT backed up with DOMAIN All-Local.  We then specified NDS: in the
> DOMAIN on this test case.  As we further investigated, we realized that we
> haven't been backing up NDS!
>
> We have a tree structure here,  different machines have access to different
> parts of the NDS tree.  Also has replication to other machines.  We have
> primarily Netware 5.1 and moving soon (maybe) to 6.0.  We have had a
> couple of instances where we restored SYS: but never had to restore NDS.
> It would seem we only have to backup NDS on certain servers, not all.
>
> Has someone some experience in this area?  Can you reference a document
> that covers this specifically?
>
> Thanks,
> David Longo
>
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Re: Backup and restore of NDS on Netware

2002-03-05 Thread Denis L'Huillier

This is a really good doc which comes with the install package of TSM for
netware.
It's located in the install directory of the client.

This is an old document which hasn't been updated since V3 but is still
very informative on
TSM and NetWare.

Hope this helps...

(See attached file: Ntwback.htm)

Regards,

Denis L. L'Huiller
973-360-7739
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Enterprise Storage Forms ->
http://admpwb01/misc/misc/storage_forms_main.html



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As we were preparing to move Netware clients from TSM 3.7 to 4.2.1.19, we
did a test on one machine.  In the process we had to modify the DOMAIN in
dsm.opt file.  Reading the Tivoli manual on Netware client it states that
NDS
is NOT backed up with DOMAIN All-Local.  We then specified NDS: in the
DOMAIN on this test case.  As we further investigated, we realized that we
haven't been backing up NDS!

We have a tree structure here,  different machines have access to different
parts of the NDS tree.  Also has replication to other machines.  We have
primarily Netware 5.1 and moving soon (maybe) to 6.0.  We have had a
couple of instances where we restored SYS: but never had to restore NDS.
It would seem we only have to backup NDS on certain servers, not all.

Has someone some experience in this area?  Can you reference a document
that covers this specifically?

Thanks,
David Longo


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