Re: Bandwidth

2014-05-16 Thread Roger Deschner
If the switch-to-server links are saturated, you can gang several of
them together with etherchannel.

It's too easy to blame the network for everything, including
inadequately cold soda in the vending machine. So before blaming the
network, make sure that the TSM server processor is not the actual
bottleneck. I have also relieved what appeared to be network bottlenecks
by adding TSM server memory. We have also seen bottlenecks in the links
to the TSM server's disk subsystem. If these kinds of server issues are
the bottleneck, dedup will just make it worse.

And as usual, remember that each time you remove a bottleneck, you just
expose another one - which could actually be the network. If you can't
back up as much as you want, look at the whole system, not just the
network.

Roger Deschner  University of Illinois at Chicago rog...@uic.edu


On Thu, 15 May 2014, Tom Taylor wrote:

Thanks for all the advice, I am talking about WAN traffic.








Thomas Taylor
System Administrator
Jos. A. Bank Clothiers
Cell (443)-974-5768



From:
Bent Christensen b...@cowi.dk
To:
ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU,
Date:
05/15/2014 08:54 AM
Subject:
Re: [ADSM-L] Bandwidth
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Hi Thomas,

Just to be sure, are you talking about LAN or WAN backup traffic? Is your
bottleneck in the TSM-client-to-switch connection or the
switch-to-tsm-server connection?

If TSM is saturating your WAN lines, looking into dedup and compression is
the best you can do. If your problem is within a LAN you might have to
reconsider your backbone and network design, if that is not an option
spreading the client start times might do the trick.

But there is no such thing in TSM as bandwidth throttling like in i.e.
Symantec Netbackup.

 - Bent





-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of
Tom Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 5:56 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] Bandwidth

Good morning,

I run TSM 6.3.4


How do I throttle bandwidth so that the clients don't choke the network
during backups. I have already set a large window for the clients to use,
and I am reading about client side de-duplication, and adaptive file
backup. Are these the only two avenues to reduce the bandwidth used by
TSM?








Thomas Taylor
System Administrator
Jos. A. Bank Clothiers
Cell (443)-974-5768



Re: Bandwidth

2014-05-15 Thread Rick Adamson
Thomas,
To get some immediate consider using the randomize setting on the TSM server 
combined with an extended backup window and limiting the number of machines 
that can backup concurrently with the maxschedsessions setting.

This will allow you to have some control over how many clients backup at one 
time.

For example; if you set your backup window for say 4 hours then tweak the 
randomize setting which will stagger your start times of the client backups by 
a set percentage. This keeps all of them from initiating their backups at once. 
Additionally, maxschedsessions will allow you to limit how many actual clients 
can connect at one time.

Obviously each environment is different and actual settings depend on variables 
such as total number of clients, amount of data, speed of network, etc, etc.

I suggest starting off conservatively, monitor the actlog for issues, and tweak 
as needed. I have used this approach many times for customers while campaigning 
for increased bandwidth resources.

Rick Adamson

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Tom 
Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 10:56 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] Bandwidth

Good morning,

I run TSM 6.3.4


How do I throttle bandwidth so that the clients don't choke the network during 
backups. I have already set a large window for the clients to use, and I am 
reading about client side de-duplication, and adaptive file backup. Are these 
the only two avenues to reduce the bandwidth used by TSM?








Thomas Taylor
System Administrator
Jos. A. Bank Clothiers
Cell (443)-974-5768


Re: Bandwidth

2014-05-15 Thread Bent Christensen
Hi Thomas,

Just to be sure, are you talking about LAN or WAN backup traffic? Is your 
bottleneck in the TSM-client-to-switch connection or the switch-to-tsm-server 
connection?

If TSM is saturating your WAN lines, looking into dedup and compression is the 
best you can do. If your problem is within a LAN you might have to reconsider 
your backbone and network design, if that is not an option spreading the client 
start times might do the trick.

But there is no such thing in TSM as bandwidth throttling like in i.e. Symantec 
Netbackup.

 - Bent





-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Tom 
Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 5:56 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] Bandwidth

Good morning,

I run TSM 6.3.4


How do I throttle bandwidth so that the clients don't choke the network during 
backups. I have already set a large window for the clients to use, and I am 
reading about client side de-duplication, and adaptive file backup. Are these 
the only two avenues to reduce the bandwidth used by TSM?








Thomas Taylor
System Administrator
Jos. A. Bank Clothiers
Cell (443)-974-5768


Re: Bandwidth

2014-05-15 Thread Tom Taylor
Thanks for all the advice, I am talking about WAN traffic.








Thomas Taylor
System Administrator
Jos. A. Bank Clothiers
Cell (443)-974-5768



From:
Bent Christensen b...@cowi.dk
To:
ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU,
Date:
05/15/2014 08:54 AM
Subject:
Re: [ADSM-L] Bandwidth
Sent by:
ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU



Hi Thomas,

Just to be sure, are you talking about LAN or WAN backup traffic? Is your
bottleneck in the TSM-client-to-switch connection or the
switch-to-tsm-server connection?

If TSM is saturating your WAN lines, looking into dedup and compression is
the best you can do. If your problem is within a LAN you might have to
reconsider your backbone and network design, if that is not an option
spreading the client start times might do the trick.

But there is no such thing in TSM as bandwidth throttling like in i.e.
Symantec Netbackup.

 - Bent





-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of
Tom Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 5:56 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] Bandwidth

Good morning,

I run TSM 6.3.4


How do I throttle bandwidth so that the clients don't choke the network
during backups. I have already set a large window for the clients to use,
and I am reading about client side de-duplication, and adaptive file
backup. Are these the only two avenues to reduce the bandwidth used by
TSM?








Thomas Taylor
System Administrator
Jos. A. Bank Clothiers
Cell (443)-974-5768


Re: Bandwidth

2014-05-14 Thread Thomas Denier
-Tom Taylor wrote: -

Good morning,

I run TSM 6.3.4


How do I throttle bandwidth so that the clients don't choke the
network
during backups. I have already set a large window for the clients to
use,
and I am reading about client side de-duplication, and adaptive file
backup. Are these the only two avenues to reduce the bandwidth used
by
TSM?

Client compression is another possible means of reducing the amount
of data transferred.

As far as I know, TSM has no facilities for limiting the peak rate
of data transfer. Your network infrastructure might have that sort
of capability. For example, some routers can limit the rate at
which data is transferred between a specific pair of addresses.

Thomas Denier
Thomas Jefferson University Hospital


Re: Bandwidth

2014-05-14 Thread Huebner, Andy
A smaller TCP window will cause the client to send fewer packets before waiting 
for the ack from the first packet.
How fast is the server network?
How many concurrent backups?

I would look at slowing the TSM server or spreading the backups.  Never really 
thought about it because my backups take too long.

Andy Huebner

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Tom 
Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 10:56 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] Bandwidth

Good morning,

I run TSM 6.3.4


How do I throttle bandwidth so that the clients don't choke the network during 
backups. I have already set a large window for the clients to use, and I am 
reading about client side de-duplication, and adaptive file backup. Are these 
the only two avenues to reduce the bandwidth used by TSM?








Thomas Taylor
System Administrator
Jos. A. Bank Clothiers
Cell (443)-974-5768