Re: Deduplication question

2011-09-07 Thread Ian Smith

On 06/09/11 22:40, Richard van Denzel wrote:

Hi All,

Just a question aboutn the internal dedup of TSM. When I dedup a storage
pool and then backup the pool to a dedup copy pool, will the data in the
storage pool backup be transferred deduped or will it get undeduped first,
then transferred and then dedupped again?

Richard.

Richard,

The chapter 'managing storage pools and volumes' in the TSM 6.1  Admin
Guide has a decent section on deduplicating data. We are investigating
server- and client-side dedupe but we haven't tried what you want to do
in our test environment. However, the above document suggests in two
places that the data will be  copied/moved in its deduplicated 'state'
rather than being rebuilt, copied and deduplicated again.

Ian Smith
Oxford University


Re: Deduplication question

2011-09-06 Thread Andrew Raibeck
Hi Richard,

No, the deduplicated data is not recomposed when backing up to a
deduplicated copy storage pool.

Recommended reading:
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/wikis/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=108134649
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/wikis/display/tivolistoragemanager/Data
+deduplication+best+practices+for+Tivoli+Storage+Manager+V6.2

Best regards,

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development
Level 3 Team Lead
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Hartford/IBM@IBMUS
Internet e-mail: stor...@us.ibm.com

IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page:
http://www.ibm.com/support/entry/portal/Overview/Software/Tivoli/Tivoli_Storage_Manager

"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"  wrote on 2011-09-06
17:40:49:

> From: Richard van Denzel 
> To: ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu
> Date: 2011-09-06 17:44
> Subject: Deduplication question
> Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" 
>
> Hi All,
>
> Just a question aboutn the internal dedup of TSM. When I dedup a storage
> pool and then backup the pool to a dedup copy pool, will the data in the
> storage pool backup be transferred deduped or will it get undeduped
first,
> then transferred and then dedupped again?
>
> Richard.

Re: Deduplication Question

2011-03-10 Thread Prather, Wanda
You're welcome.  Been there, done that, got the scars to prove it!  ;>)

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Neal
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 4:44 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Deduplication Question
Importance: High

Thanks Wanda!   That worked perfectly!  I owe you one!


 Jim


-Original Message-
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Prather, Wanda
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 1:20 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Deduplication Question

Check the MOUNTLIMIT in the client definition.
It controls how many mount points in a sequential pool the client can use at 
once.

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Jim 
Neal
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 4:16 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] Deduplication Question
Importance: High

Hi All,



I am testing Deduplication on a Red Hat 5 , 64 Bit, X86
Linux Server, using TSM Server version 6.2.2.2.   I set up a storage pool
for Deduplication and using a file devclass.  When I try to back up a windows 
client to the storage pool, I am getting an error that says "ANR0525W - Server 
Media mount not possible".  However, when I back up to a standard storage pool 
with a disk devclass, the same client backs up perfectly and then the data can 
be migrated to the deduplicated storage pool.  My questions are these:



1)  Can you back up a client directly to a deduplicated storage pool?
If so, how?

2)  What criteria should be used for the creation of volumes for a
deduplicated storage pool?

3)  Is there documentation that specifically says that you have to
migrate data to the deduplicated storage pool?





Any insight on these issues will be greatly appreciated!  Thanks!





Jim Neal

Sr.  TSM Administrator

U.C. Berkeley Storage and Backup Group


Re: Deduplication Question

2011-03-10 Thread Jim Neal
Thanks Wanda!   That worked perfectly!  I owe you one!


 Jim


-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of
Prather, Wanda
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 1:20 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Deduplication Question

Check the MOUNTLIMIT in the client definition.
It controls how many mount points in a sequential pool the client can use at
once.

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Jim
Neal
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 4:16 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] Deduplication Question
Importance: High

Hi All,



I am testing Deduplication on a Red Hat 5 , 64 Bit, X86
Linux Server, using TSM Server version 6.2.2.2.   I set up a storage pool
for Deduplication and using a file devclass.  When I try to back up a
windows client to the storage pool, I am getting an error that says
"ANR0525W - Server Media mount not possible".  However, when I back up to a
standard storage pool with a disk devclass, the same client backs up
perfectly and then the data can be migrated to the deduplicated storage
pool.  My questions are these:



1)  Can you back up a client directly to a deduplicated storage pool?
If so, how?

2)  What criteria should be used for the creation of volumes for a
deduplicated storage pool?

3)  Is there documentation that specifically says that you have to
migrate data to the deduplicated storage pool?





Any insight on these issues will be greatly appreciated!  Thanks!





Jim Neal

Sr.  TSM Administrator

U.C. Berkeley Storage and Backup Group


Re: Deduplication Question

2011-03-10 Thread Prather, Wanda
Check the MOUNTLIMIT in the client definition.
It controls how many mount points in a sequential pool the client can use at 
once.

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Jim 
Neal
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 4:16 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] Deduplication Question
Importance: High

Hi All,



I am testing Deduplication on a Red Hat 5 , 64 Bit, X86
Linux Server, using TSM Server version 6.2.2.2.   I set up a storage pool
for Deduplication and using a file devclass.  When I try to back up a windows 
client to the storage pool, I am getting an error that says "ANR0525W - Server 
Media mount not possible".  However, when I back up to a standard storage pool 
with a disk devclass, the same client backs up perfectly and then the data can 
be migrated to the deduplicated storage pool.  My questions are these:



1)  Can you back up a client directly to a deduplicated storage pool?
If so, how?

2)  What criteria should be used for the creation of volumes for a
deduplicated storage pool?

3)  Is there documentation that specifically says that you have to
migrate data to the deduplicated storage pool?





Any insight on these issues will be greatly appreciated!  Thanks!





Jim Neal

Sr.  TSM Administrator

U.C. Berkeley Storage and Backup Group