Re: INCLUDE for new management class
Andy, I got a note that said that all is now as the users want. thanks for the help. From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager on behalf of Andrew Raibeck Sent: Mon 12/3/2007 3:15 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] INCLUDE for new management class Hi Fred, good to hear you have it straightened out. Yes, that looks correct now; notice that the drive letter is resolved to F:. Also don't forget that you want to use ...\* at the end of the file spec instead of just * if you need the INCLUDE to cover subdirectories of the budget office directory. Lastly, you can add -detail to the end of the dsmc query inclexcl command to verify the management class assignment. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development Level 3 Team Lead Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 12/03/2007 02:08:30 PM: Andy, I think I have it. Neither of us spotted the $f instead of f$, but here is the latest inclexcl list. He'll let me know tomorrow morning. *** FILE INCLUDE/EXCLUDE *** Mode Function Pattern (match from top down) Source File - -- - Excl Directory *\winnt\system32\wins Server Excl Directory *\temp Server Excl Directory *\I386 Server Excl Directory *\Program Files\Network Associates\VirusScan NT Server Excl Directory *\Recycle* Server Excl Directory C:\adsm.sysOperating System Excl Directory *\Recycler dsm.opt Excl Directory *\Recycled dsm.opt Excl Directory *\...\Temporary Internet Files dsm.opt Excl Directory *\System Volume Informationdsm.opt Include All f:\nsit\fieldsupport\university administration\budget office\* Server . . All our standard excludes . . Include All *\...\*Server Fred Johanson TSM Administrator University of Chicago 773-702-8464 -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Raibeck Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 12:45 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] INCLUDE for new management class OK, so my comments re: your INCLUDE file spec stand. Once that is fixed up to match the actual file space name, it should work. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development Level 3 Team Lead Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageMan ager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 12/03/2007 11:39:08 AM: Here's the result of q fi: Node Name Filespace FSID Platform Name --- --- TANK1.AD.UCHIC- \\tank1\f$ 1 WinNT AGO.EDU TANK1.AD.UCHIC- \\tank1\c$ 2 WinNT AGO.EDU TANK1.AD.UCHIC- \\tank1\d$ 3 WinNT AGO.EDU Fred Johanson TSM Administrator University of Chicago 773-702-8464 -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Raibeck Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 12:34 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] INCLUDE for new management class A couple of things: 1. Is the actual machine name tank1.ad.uchicago.edu? In other words, if from that machine you run SET COMPUTERNAME from an OS prompt, is that what it shows? Or does it just show tank1? Make sure that the UNC name reflects the computer name, not the DNS name or IP address. 2. Have a very close look at the drive letter part that comes after the machine name. Are you sure it's supposed to be $f? If this is set up right, then when you run dsmc q inclexcl on the tank1 machine, the INCLUDE should show up as resolved to f:\ Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development Level 3 Team Lead Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageMan ager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your
Re: INCLUDE for new management class
A couple of things: 1. Is the actual machine name tank1.ad.uchicago.edu? In other words, if from that machine you run SET COMPUTERNAME from an OS prompt, is that what it shows? Or does it just show tank1? Make sure that the UNC name reflects the computer name, not the DNS name or IP address. 2. Have a very close look at the drive letter part that comes after the machine name. Are you sure it's supposed to be $f? If this is set up right, then when you run dsmc q inclexcl on the tank1 machine, the INCLUDE should show up as resolved to f:\ Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development Level 3 Team Lead Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 12/03/2007 10:40:44 AM: Andy, The machine admin wasn't in on Friday, but today he reports the new mgmtc still doesn't show up. He sent along the inclexcl from this morning: *** FILE INCLUDE/EXCLUDE *** Mode Function Pattern (match from top down) Source File - -- - Excl Directory *\winnt\system32\wins Server Excl Directory *\temp Server Excl Directory *\I386 Server Excl Directory *\Program Files\Network Associates\VirusScan NT Server Excl Directory *\Recycle* Server Excl Directory C:\adsm.sysOperating System Excl Directory *\Recycler dsm.opt Excl Directory *\Recycled dsm.opt Excl Directory *\...\Temporary Internet Files dsm.opt Excl Directory *\System Volume Informationdsm.opt Include All \\TANK1.AD.UCHICAGO.EDU\$f\nsit\fieldsupport\university administration\budget office\* Server Exclude All *\winnt\system32\DTCLog\MsDTC.log Server Exclude All *\winnt\netlogon.chg Server Exclude All *\winnt\debug\*Server Exclude All *\winnt\csc\* Server Exclude All *\winnt\Registration\*.clb Server Exclude All *\hibernate.datServer Exclude All *\ffastun*.ff? Server Exclude All *\MSDOS.SYSServer Exclude All *\IO.SYS Server Exclude All *\IBMDOS.COM Server Exclude All *\IBMBIO.COM Server Exclude All *\...\pagefile.sys Server Exclude All *\...\SYSTEM32\CONFIG\...\*Server Exclude All *\...\SYSTEM32\CONFIG\*.* Server Exclude All *\...\Cache\* Server Exclude All *\*.crmlog Server Exclude All *\microsoft uam volume\...\* Server Exclude All *\microsoft uam volume\* Server Exclude All *\macintosh volume\...\* Server Exclude All *\macintosh volume\* Server Exclude All *\Documents and setting\...\index.dat Server Exclude All *\Documents and Settings\...\ntuser.dat.log Server Exclude All *\Documents and Settings\...\ntuser.dat Server Exclude All *\Documents and Settings\...\Local Settings\temp\* Server Exclude All *\Documents and Settings\...\Local Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows\UsrClass.dat.log Server Exclude All *\Documents and Settings\...\Local Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows\UsrClass.dat Server Exclude All *\...\Temporary Internet Files\* Server Exclude All *\...\EA DATA. SF Server Include All *\...\*Server Fred Johanson TSM Administrator University of Chicago 773-702-8464 -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Raibeck Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 11:12 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] INCLUDE for new management class Hi Fred, FORCE has no effect on INCLEXCL, so that's a nonstarter. Try this: remove the INCLUDE statement from the dsm.opt file and instead add it to the client option set on the server. But instead of using the drive letter, use the UNC name, e.g.: define clientopt optsetname inclexcl 'include \\machname\f$\nsit\fieldsupport\university administration\budget office\* longadmin' where machname is the machine name for this client. Make sure to insert it in the sequence so it tested before include *:\...\*. Note that you don't need the second include with the *.* spec, as that is redundant. The idea is that other clients will pick up this include as well, but it will have no effect due the differing UNC names. See if that does
Re: INCLUDE for new management class
Andy, The machine admin wasn't in on Friday, but today he reports the new mgmtc still doesn't show up. He sent along the inclexcl from this morning: *** FILE INCLUDE/EXCLUDE *** Mode Function Pattern (match from top down) Source File - -- - Excl Directory *\winnt\system32\wins Server Excl Directory *\temp Server Excl Directory *\I386 Server Excl Directory *\Program Files\Network Associates\VirusScan NT Server Excl Directory *\Recycle* Server Excl Directory C:\adsm.sysOperating System Excl Directory *\Recycler dsm.opt Excl Directory *\Recycled dsm.opt Excl Directory *\...\Temporary Internet Files dsm.opt Excl Directory *\System Volume Informationdsm.opt Include All \\TANK1.AD.UCHICAGO.EDU\$f\nsit\fieldsupport\university administration\budget office\* Server Exclude All *\winnt\system32\DTCLog\MsDTC.log Server Exclude All *\winnt\netlogon.chg Server Exclude All *\winnt\debug\*Server Exclude All *\winnt\csc\* Server Exclude All *\winnt\Registration\*.clb Server Exclude All *\hibernate.datServer Exclude All *\ffastun*.ff? Server Exclude All *\MSDOS.SYSServer Exclude All *\IO.SYS Server Exclude All *\IBMDOS.COM Server Exclude All *\IBMBIO.COM Server Exclude All *\...\pagefile.sys Server Exclude All *\...\SYSTEM32\CONFIG\...\*Server Exclude All *\...\SYSTEM32\CONFIG\*.* Server Exclude All *\...\Cache\* Server Exclude All *\*.crmlog Server Exclude All *\microsoft uam volume\...\* Server Exclude All *\microsoft uam volume\* Server Exclude All *\macintosh volume\...\* Server Exclude All *\macintosh volume\* Server Exclude All *\Documents and setting\...\index.dat Server Exclude All *\Documents and Settings\...\ntuser.dat.log Server Exclude All *\Documents and Settings\...\ntuser.dat Server Exclude All *\Documents and Settings\...\Local Settings\temp\* Server Exclude All *\Documents and Settings\...\Local Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows\UsrClass.dat.log Server Exclude All *\Documents and Settings\...\Local Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows\UsrClass.dat Server Exclude All *\...\Temporary Internet Files\* Server Exclude All *\...\EA DATA. SF Server Include All *\...\*Server Fred Johanson TSM Administrator University of Chicago 773-702-8464 -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Raibeck Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 11:12 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] INCLUDE for new management class Hi Fred, FORCE has no effect on INCLEXCL, so that's a nonstarter. Try this: remove the INCLUDE statement from the dsm.opt file and instead add it to the client option set on the server. But instead of using the drive letter, use the UNC name, e.g.: define clientopt optsetname inclexcl 'include \\machname\f$\nsit\fieldsupport\university administration\budget office\* longadmin' where machname is the machine name for this client. Make sure to insert it in the sequence so it tested before include *:\...\*. Note that you don't need the second include with the *.* spec, as that is redundant. The idea is that other clients will pick up this include as well, but it will have no effect due the differing UNC names. See if that does the trick. On the machine in question, this include statement will show up as F: in the Q INCLEXCL output; but on other machines, you'll see it as the UNC name, so it should have no effect on those machines. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development Level 3 Team Lead Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageMan ager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence.
Re: INCLUDE for new management class
Here's the result of q fi: Node Name Filespace FSID Platform Name --- --- TANK1.AD.UCHIC- \\tank1\f$ 1 WinNT AGO.EDU TANK1.AD.UCHIC- \\tank1\c$ 2 WinNT AGO.EDU TANK1.AD.UCHIC- \\tank1\d$ 3 WinNT AGO.EDU Fred Johanson TSM Administrator University of Chicago 773-702-8464 -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Raibeck Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 12:34 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] INCLUDE for new management class A couple of things: 1. Is the actual machine name tank1.ad.uchicago.edu? In other words, if from that machine you run SET COMPUTERNAME from an OS prompt, is that what it shows? Or does it just show tank1? Make sure that the UNC name reflects the computer name, not the DNS name or IP address. 2. Have a very close look at the drive letter part that comes after the machine name. Are you sure it's supposed to be $f? If this is set up right, then when you run dsmc q inclexcl on the tank1 machine, the INCLUDE should show up as resolved to f:\ Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development Level 3 Team Lead Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageMan ager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 12/03/2007 10:40:44 AM: Andy, The machine admin wasn't in on Friday, but today he reports the new mgmtc still doesn't show up. He sent along the inclexcl from this morning: *** FILE INCLUDE/EXCLUDE *** Mode Function Pattern (match from top down) Source File - -- - Excl Directory *\winnt\system32\wins Server Excl Directory *\temp Server Excl Directory *\I386 Server Excl Directory *\Program Files\Network Associates\VirusScan NT Server Excl Directory *\Recycle* Server Excl Directory C:\adsm.sysOperating System Excl Directory *\Recycler dsm.opt Excl Directory *\Recycled dsm.opt Excl Directory *\...\Temporary Internet Files dsm.opt Excl Directory *\System Volume Informationdsm.opt Include All \\TANK1.AD.UCHICAGO.EDU\$f\nsit\fieldsupport\university administration\budget office\* Server Exclude All *\winnt\system32\DTCLog\MsDTC.log Server Exclude All *\winnt\netlogon.chg Server Exclude All *\winnt\debug\*Server Exclude All *\winnt\csc\* Server Exclude All *\winnt\Registration\*.clb Server Exclude All *\hibernate.datServer Exclude All *\ffastun*.ff? Server Exclude All *\MSDOS.SYSServer Exclude All *\IO.SYS Server Exclude All *\IBMDOS.COM Server Exclude All *\IBMBIO.COM Server Exclude All *\...\pagefile.sys Server Exclude All *\...\SYSTEM32\CONFIG\...\*Server Exclude All *\...\SYSTEM32\CONFIG\*.* Server Exclude All *\...\Cache\* Server Exclude All *\*.crmlog Server Exclude All *\microsoft uam volume\...\* Server Exclude All *\microsoft uam volume\* Server Exclude All *\macintosh volume\...\* Server Exclude All *\macintosh volume\* Server Exclude All *\Documents and setting\...\index.dat Server Exclude All *\Documents and Settings\...\ntuser.dat.log Server Exclude All *\Documents and Settings\...\ntuser.dat Server Exclude All *\Documents and Settings\...\Local Settings\temp\* Server Exclude All *\Documents and Settings\...\Local Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows\UsrClass.dat.log Server Exclude All *\Documents and Settings\...\Local Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows\UsrClass.dat Server Exclude All *\...\Temporary Internet Files\* Server Exclude All *\...\EA DATA. SF Server Include All *\...\*Server Fred Johanson TSM Administrator University of Chicago 773-702-8464 -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Raibeck Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 11:12 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] INCLUDE for new management class Hi Fred, FORCE has no effect on INCLEXCL, so that's a nonstarter. Try this: remove the INCLUDE statement from the dsm.opt file and instead add it to the client option
Re: INCLUDE for new management class
OK, so my comments re: your INCLUDE file spec stand. Once that is fixed up to match the actual file space name, it should work. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development Level 3 Team Lead Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 12/03/2007 11:39:08 AM: Here's the result of q fi: Node Name Filespace FSID Platform Name --- --- TANK1.AD.UCHIC- \\tank1\f$ 1 WinNT AGO.EDU TANK1.AD.UCHIC- \\tank1\c$ 2 WinNT AGO.EDU TANK1.AD.UCHIC- \\tank1\d$ 3 WinNT AGO.EDU Fred Johanson TSM Administrator University of Chicago 773-702-8464 -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Raibeck Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 12:34 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] INCLUDE for new management class A couple of things: 1. Is the actual machine name tank1.ad.uchicago.edu? In other words, if from that machine you run SET COMPUTERNAME from an OS prompt, is that what it shows? Or does it just show tank1? Make sure that the UNC name reflects the computer name, not the DNS name or IP address. 2. Have a very close look at the drive letter part that comes after the machine name. Are you sure it's supposed to be $f? If this is set up right, then when you run dsmc q inclexcl on the tank1 machine, the INCLUDE should show up as resolved to f:\ Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development Level 3 Team Lead Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageMan ager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 12/03/2007 10:40:44 AM: Andy, The machine admin wasn't in on Friday, but today he reports the new mgmtc still doesn't show up. He sent along the inclexcl from this morning: *** FILE INCLUDE/EXCLUDE *** Mode Function Pattern (match from top down) Source File - -- - Excl Directory *\winnt\system32\wins Server Excl Directory *\temp Server Excl Directory *\I386 Server Excl Directory *\Program Files\Network Associates\VirusScan NT Server Excl Directory *\Recycle* Server Excl Directory C:\adsm.sysOperating System Excl Directory *\Recycler dsm.opt Excl Directory *\Recycled dsm.opt Excl Directory *\...\Temporary Internet Files dsm.opt Excl Directory *\System Volume Informationdsm.opt Include All \\TANK1.AD.UCHICAGO.EDU\$f\nsit\fieldsupport\university administration\budget office\* Server Exclude All *\winnt\system32\DTCLog\MsDTC.log Server Exclude All *\winnt\netlogon.chg Server Exclude All *\winnt\debug\*Server Exclude All *\winnt\csc\* Server Exclude All *\winnt\Registration\*.clb Server Exclude All *\hibernate.datServer Exclude All *\ffastun*.ff? Server Exclude All *\MSDOS.SYSServer Exclude All *\IO.SYS Server Exclude All *\IBMDOS.COM Server Exclude All *\IBMBIO.COM Server Exclude All *\...\pagefile.sys Server Exclude All *\...\SYSTEM32\CONFIG\...\*Server Exclude All *\...\SYSTEM32\CONFIG\*.* Server Exclude All *\...\Cache\* Server Exclude All *\*.crmlog Server Exclude All *\microsoft uam volume\...\* Server Exclude All *\microsoft uam volume\* Server Exclude All *\macintosh volume\...\* Server Exclude All *\macintosh volume\* Server Exclude All *\Documents and setting\...\index.dat Server Exclude All *\Documents and Settings\...\ntuser.dat.log Server Exclude All *\Documents and Settings\...\ntuser.dat Server Exclude All *\Documents and Settings\...\Local Settings\temp\* Server Exclude All *\Documents and Settings\...\Local Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows\UsrClass.dat.log Server
Re: INCLUDE for new management class
Hi Fred, good to hear you have it straightened out. Yes, that looks correct now; notice that the drive letter is resolved to F:. Also don't forget that you want to use ...\* at the end of the file spec instead of just * if you need the INCLUDE to cover subdirectories of the budget office directory. Lastly, you can add -detail to the end of the dsmc query inclexcl command to verify the management class assignment. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development Level 3 Team Lead Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 12/03/2007 02:08:30 PM: Andy, I think I have it. Neither of us spotted the $f instead of f$, but here is the latest inclexcl list. He'll let me know tomorrow morning. *** FILE INCLUDE/EXCLUDE *** Mode Function Pattern (match from top down) Source File - -- - Excl Directory *\winnt\system32\wins Server Excl Directory *\temp Server Excl Directory *\I386 Server Excl Directory *\Program Files\Network Associates\VirusScan NT Server Excl Directory *\Recycle* Server Excl Directory C:\adsm.sysOperating System Excl Directory *\Recycler dsm.opt Excl Directory *\Recycled dsm.opt Excl Directory *\...\Temporary Internet Files dsm.opt Excl Directory *\System Volume Informationdsm.opt Include All f:\nsit\fieldsupport\university administration\budget office\* Server . . All our standard excludes . . Include All *\...\*Server Fred Johanson TSM Administrator University of Chicago 773-702-8464 -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Raibeck Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 12:45 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] INCLUDE for new management class OK, so my comments re: your INCLUDE file spec stand. Once that is fixed up to match the actual file space name, it should work. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development Level 3 Team Lead Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageMan ager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 12/03/2007 11:39:08 AM: Here's the result of q fi: Node Name Filespace FSID Platform Name --- --- TANK1.AD.UCHIC- \\tank1\f$ 1 WinNT AGO.EDU TANK1.AD.UCHIC- \\tank1\c$ 2 WinNT AGO.EDU TANK1.AD.UCHIC- \\tank1\d$ 3 WinNT AGO.EDU Fred Johanson TSM Administrator University of Chicago 773-702-8464 -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Raibeck Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 12:34 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] INCLUDE for new management class A couple of things: 1. Is the actual machine name tank1.ad.uchicago.edu? In other words, if from that machine you run SET COMPUTERNAME from an OS prompt, is that what it shows? Or does it just show tank1? Make sure that the UNC name reflects the computer name, not the DNS name or IP address. 2. Have a very close look at the drive letter part that comes after the machine name. Are you sure it's supposed to be $f? If this is set up right, then when you run dsmc q inclexcl on the tank1 machine, the INCLUDE should show up as resolved to f:\ Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development Level 3 Team Lead Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageMan ager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 12/03/2007 10:40:44 AM: Andy, The machine admin wasn't in on Friday, but today he reports the new mgmtc still doesn't show up. He sent along the inclexcl from this
Re: INCLUDE for new management class
Andy, I think I have it. Neither of us spotted the $f instead of f$, but here is the latest inclexcl list. He'll let me know tomorrow morning. *** FILE INCLUDE/EXCLUDE *** Mode Function Pattern (match from top down) Source File - -- - Excl Directory *\winnt\system32\wins Server Excl Directory *\temp Server Excl Directory *\I386 Server Excl Directory *\Program Files\Network Associates\VirusScan NT Server Excl Directory *\Recycle* Server Excl Directory C:\adsm.sysOperating System Excl Directory *\Recycler dsm.opt Excl Directory *\Recycled dsm.opt Excl Directory *\...\Temporary Internet Files dsm.opt Excl Directory *\System Volume Informationdsm.opt Include All f:\nsit\fieldsupport\university administration\budget office\* Server . . All our standard excludes . . Include All *\...\*Server Fred Johanson TSM Administrator University of Chicago 773-702-8464 -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Raibeck Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 12:45 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] INCLUDE for new management class OK, so my comments re: your INCLUDE file spec stand. Once that is fixed up to match the actual file space name, it should work. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development Level 3 Team Lead Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageMan ager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 12/03/2007 11:39:08 AM: Here's the result of q fi: Node Name Filespace FSID Platform Name --- --- TANK1.AD.UCHIC- \\tank1\f$ 1 WinNT AGO.EDU TANK1.AD.UCHIC- \\tank1\c$ 2 WinNT AGO.EDU TANK1.AD.UCHIC- \\tank1\d$ 3 WinNT AGO.EDU Fred Johanson TSM Administrator University of Chicago 773-702-8464 -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Raibeck Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 12:34 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] INCLUDE for new management class A couple of things: 1. Is the actual machine name tank1.ad.uchicago.edu? In other words, if from that machine you run SET COMPUTERNAME from an OS prompt, is that what it shows? Or does it just show tank1? Make sure that the UNC name reflects the computer name, not the DNS name or IP address. 2. Have a very close look at the drive letter part that comes after the machine name. Are you sure it's supposed to be $f? If this is set up right, then when you run dsmc q inclexcl on the tank1 machine, the INCLUDE should show up as resolved to f:\ Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development Level 3 Team Lead Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageMan ager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 12/03/2007 10:40:44 AM: Andy, The machine admin wasn't in on Friday, but today he reports the new mgmtc still doesn't show up. He sent along the inclexcl from this morning: *** FILE INCLUDE/EXCLUDE *** Mode Function Pattern (match from top down) Source File - -- - Excl Directory *\winnt\system32\wins Server Excl Directory *\temp Server Excl Directory *\I386 Server Excl Directory *\Program Files\Network Associates\VirusScan NT Server Excl Directory *\Recycle* Server Excl Directory C:\adsm.sysOperating System Excl Directory *\Recycler dsm.opt Excl Directory *\Recycled dsm.opt Excl Directory *\...\Temporary Internet Files dsm.opt Excl Directory *\System Volume Informationdsm.opt Include All \\TANK1.AD.UCHICAGO.EDU\$f\nsit\fieldsupport\university administration\budget office\* Server Exclude All *\winnt\system32\DTCLog\MsDTC.log Server Exclude All *\winnt\netlogon.chg Server Exclude All *\winnt\debug\*Server Exclude All *\winnt\csc\* Server
Re: INCLUDE for new management class
On Nov 29, 2007, at 3:23 PM, Fred Johanson wrote: Our desktop support unit has a user that wants a new retention policy on their file share. The admin added this to the dsm.opt: INCLUDE F:\NSIT\FieldSupport\University Administration\Budget Office\* LONGADMIN INCLUDE F:\NSIT\FieldSupport\University Administration\Budget Office\*.* LONGADMIN I can't see anything syntactically wrong, but it does not work. He's also tried 'f:...' with no effect. He says that he's restarted the service after each change. Can anyone see his error? Fred - What are the details of does not work? Are any problems/conflicts reported by 'dsmc q inclexcl'? Has the Policy Set been activated with that Managment Class? Richard Sims
Re: INCLUDE for new management class
Does not work, his term, which means the files show up on the gui as being in the default management class. The new management class does not show up in Q inclexcl. The new management class shows up on the active policy set. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Sims Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 2:35 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] INCLUDE for new management class On Nov 29, 2007, at 3:23 PM, Fred Johanson wrote: Our desktop support unit has a user that wants a new retention policy on their file share. The admin added this to the dsm.opt: INCLUDE F:\NSIT\FieldSupport\University Administration\Budget Office\* LONGADMIN INCLUDE F:\NSIT\FieldSupport\University Administration\Budget Office\*.* LONGADMIN I can't see anything syntactically wrong, but it does not work. He's also tried 'f:...' with no effect. He says that he's restarted the service after each change. Can anyone see his error? Fred - What are the details of does not work? Are any problems/conflicts reported by 'dsmc q inclexcl'? Has the Policy Set been activated with that Managment Class? Richard Sims
Re: INCLUDE for new management class
Nothing wrong per se, although the second INCLUDE appears redundant. The first place to start with these kinds of issues is to use dsmc query inclexcl to makes sure those files aren't being picked up by an earlier filter. Also make sure the updated policy was activated. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development Level 3 Team Lead Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 11/29/2007 01:23:35 PM: Our desktop support unit has a user that wants a new retention policy on their file share. The admin added this to the dsm.opt: INCLUDE F:\NSIT\FieldSupport\University Administration\Budget Office\* LONGADMIN INCLUDE F:\NSIT\FieldSupport\University Administration\Budget Office\*.* LONGADMIN I can't see anything syntactically wrong, but it does not work. He's also tried 'f:...' with no effect. He says that he's restarted the service after each change. Can anyone see his error? Fred Johanson TSM Administrator University of Chicago 773-702-8464
Re: INCLUDE for new management class
Andy, His additions are at the bottom of his dsm.opt file. There is also a client optionset that has: Include ?:* FILESERVER Fred Johanson TSM Administrator University of Chicago 773-702-8464 -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Raibeck Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 2:29 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] INCLUDE for new management class Nothing wrong per se, although the second INCLUDE appears redundant. The first place to start with these kinds of issues is to use dsmc query inclexcl to makes sure those files aren't being picked up by an earlier filter. Also make sure the updated policy was activated. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development Level 3 Team Lead Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageMan ager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 11/29/2007 01:23:35 PM: Our desktop support unit has a user that wants a new retention policy on their file share. The admin added this to the dsm.opt: INCLUDE F:\NSIT\FieldSupport\University Administration\Budget Office\* LONGADMIN INCLUDE F:\NSIT\FieldSupport\University Administration\Budget Office\*.* LONGADMIN I can't see anything syntactically wrong, but it does not work. He's also tried 'f:...' with no effect. He says that he's restarted the service after each change. Can anyone see his error? Fred Johanson TSM Administrator University of Chicago 773-702-8464
Re: INCLUDE for new management class
The options defined in server client optins have precidence From page 353 in the server guide V5.4 Any include-exclude statements in the server client option set have priority over the include-exclude statements in the local client options file. The server include-exclude statements are always enforced and placed at the bottom of the include-exclude list and evaluated before the client include-exclude statements. Neil Strand Storage Engineer - Legg Mason Baltimore, MD. (410) 580-7491 Whatever you can do or believe you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Raibeck Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 4:48 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] INCLUDE for new management class Yes, but it's not position in the dsm.opt file that matters when client option sets are at issue. Use dsmc query inclexcl to see the final list that TSM actually uses. I suspect it is that client option set that is overriding the dsm.opt file. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development Level 3 Team Lead Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageMan ager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 11/29/2007 02:41:26 PM: Andy, His additions are at the bottom of his dsm.opt file. There is also a client optionset that has: Include ?:* FILESERVER Fred Johanson TSM Administrator University of Chicago 773-702-8464 -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Raibeck Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 2:29 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] INCLUDE for new management class Nothing wrong per se, although the second INCLUDE appears redundant. The first place to start with these kinds of issues is to use dsmc query inclexcl to makes sure those files aren't being picked up by an earlier filter. Also make sure the updated policy was activated. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development Level 3 Team Lead Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageM an ager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 11/29/2007 01:23:35 PM: Our desktop support unit has a user that wants a new retention policy on their file share. The admin added this to the dsm.opt: INCLUDE F:\NSIT\FieldSupport\University Administration\Budget Office\* LONGADMIN INCLUDE F:\NSIT\FieldSupport\University Administration\Budget Office\*.* LONGADMIN I can't see anything syntactically wrong, but it does not work. He's also tried 'f:...' with no effect. He says that he's restarted the service after each change. Can anyone see his error? Fred Johanson TSM Administrator University of Chicago 773-702-8464 IMPORTANT: E-mail sent through the Internet is not secure. Legg Mason therefore recommends that you do not send any confidential or sensitive information to us via electronic mail, including social security numbers, account numbers, or personal identification numbers. Delivery, and or timely delivery of Internet mail is not guaranteed. Legg Mason therefore recommends that you do not send time sensitive or action-oriented messages to us via electronic mail. This message is intended for the addressee only and may contain privileged or confidential information. Unless you are the intended recipient, you may not use, copy or disclose to anyone any information contained in this message. If you have received this message in error, please notify the author by replying to this message and then kindly delete the message. Thank you.
Re: INCLUDE for new management class
There are no 'INCLUDE' lines in the option set other than the initial one. This is the dsm.opt: EXCLUDE.BACKUP *:\microsoft uam volume\...\* EXCLUDE.BACKUP *:\microsoft uam volume\...\*.* EXCLUDE.BACKUP *:\...\EA DATA. SF EXCLUDE.BACKUP *:\IBMBIO.COM EXCLUDE.BACKUP *:\IBMDOS.COM EXCLUDE.BACKUP *:\IO.SYS EXCLUDE.BACKUP *:\...\system32\config\...\* EXCLUDE.BACKUP *:\...\system32\Perflib*.dat EXCLUDE.BACKUP *:\...\system32\dhcp\...\* INCLUDE.BACKUP *:\...\system32\dhcp\backup\...\* EXCLUDE.BACKUP *:\...\system32\dns\...\* INCLUDE.BACKUP *:\...\system32\dns\backup\...\* EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE *:\microsoft uam volume\...\* EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE *:\microsoft uam volume\...\*.* EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE *:\...\EA DATA. SF EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE *:\IBMBIO.COM EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE *:\IBMDOS.COM EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE *:\IO.SYS EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE *:\...\system32\config\...\* EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE *:\...\system32\Perflib*.dat EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE *:\...\system32\dhcp\...\* INCLUDE.ARCHIVE *:\...\system32\dhcp\backup\...\* EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE *:\...\system32\dns\...\* INCLUDE.ARCHIVE *:\...\system32\dns\backup\...\* EXCLUDE.DIR *:\System Volume Information EXCLUDE.DIR *:\...\Temporary Internet Files EXCLUDE.DIR *:\Recycled EXCLUDE.DIR *:\Recycler INCLUDE F:\NSIT\FieldSupport\University Administration\Budget Office\* LONGADMIN INCLUDE F:\NSIT\FieldSupport\University Administration\Budget Office\*.* LONGADMIN And the dsmc q inclexcl: *** FILE INCLUDE/EXCLUDE *** Mode Function Pattern (match from top down) Source File - -- - Excl Directory *\winnt\system32\wins Server Excl Directory *\temp Server Excl Directory *\Recycle* Server Excl Directory *\I386 Server Excl Directory *\Program Files\Network Associates\VirusScan NT Server Excl Directory C:\adsm.sysOperating System Excl Directory *\Recycler dsm.opt Excl Directory *\Recycled dsm.opt Excl Directory *\...\Temporary Internet Files dsm.opt Excl Directory *\System Volume Informationdsm.opt Exclude All *\winnt\system32\DTCLog\MsDTC.log Server Exclude All *\winnt\netlogon.chg Server Exclude All *\winnt\debug\*.* Server Exclude All *\winnt\debug\*Server Exclude All *\winnt\csc\*.*Server Exclude All *\winnt\csc\* Server Exclude All *\winnt\Registration\*.clb Server Exclude All *\hibernate.datServer Exclude All *\hiberfil.sys Server Exclude All *\ffastun*.ff? Server Exclude All *\MSDOS.SYSServer Exclude All *\IO.SYS Server Exclude All *\IBMDOS.COM Server Exclude All *\IBMBIO.COM Server Exclude All *\...\pagefile.sys Server Exclude All *\...\SYSTEM32\CONFIG\...\*Server Exclude All *\...\SYSTEM32\CONFIG\*.* Server Exclude All *\...\Cache\*.*Server Exclude All *\...\Cache\* Server Exclude All *\*.crmlog Server Exclude All *\microsoft uam volume\...\*.* Server Exclude All *\microsoft uam volume\...\* Server Exclude All *\microsoft uam volume\*.* Server Exclude All *\microsoft uam volume\* Server Exclude All *\macintosh volume\...\*.* Server Exclude All *\macintosh volume\...\* Server Exclude All *\macintosh volume\*.* Server Exclude All *\macintosh volume\* Server Exclude All *\Documents and setting\...\index.dat Server Exclude All *\Documents and Settings\...\ntuser.dat.log Server Exclude All *\Documents and Settings\...\ntuser.dat Server Exclude All *\Documents and Settings\...\Local Settings\temp\*.* Server Exclude All *\Documents and Settings\...\Local Settings\temp\* Server Exclude All *\Documents and Settings\...\Local Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows\UsrClass.dat.log Server Exclude All *\Documents and Settings\...\Local Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows\UsrClass.dat Server Exclude All *\...\Temporary Internet Files\*.* Server Exclude All *\...\Temporary Internet Files\* Server Exclude All *\...\EA DATA. SF Server Include All *\...\*Server Exclude All C:\WINDOWS\usrclass.dat.logOperating System Exclude All C:\WINDOWS\usrclass.datOperating System Exclude All C:\WINDOWS\Tasks\schedlgu.txt Operating System Exclude All C:\WINDOWS\system32\WBEM\Repository\...\*.* Operating System Exclude All C:\WINDOWS\system32\NtmsData\...\* Operating System Exclude All C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSDtc\trace\dtctrace.log Operating System Exclude All C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSDTC\MSDTC.LOG
Re: INCLUDE for new management class
Yes, but it's not position in the dsm.opt file that matters when client option sets are at issue. Use dsmc query inclexcl to see the final list that TSM actually uses. I suspect it is that client option set that is overriding the dsm.opt file. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development Level 3 Team Lead Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 11/29/2007 02:41:26 PM: Andy, His additions are at the bottom of his dsm.opt file. There is also a client optionset that has: Include ?:* FILESERVER Fred Johanson TSM Administrator University of Chicago 773-702-8464 -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Raibeck Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 2:29 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] INCLUDE for new management class Nothing wrong per se, although the second INCLUDE appears redundant. The first place to start with these kinds of issues is to use dsmc query inclexcl to makes sure those files aren't being picked up by an earlier filter. Also make sure the updated policy was activated. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development Level 3 Team Lead Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageMan ager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 11/29/2007 01:23:35 PM: Our desktop support unit has a user that wants a new retention policy on their file share. The admin added this to the dsm.opt: INCLUDE F:\NSIT\FieldSupport\University Administration\Budget Office\* LONGADMIN INCLUDE F:\NSIT\FieldSupport\University Administration\Budget Office\*.* LONGADMIN I can't see anything syntactically wrong, but it does not work. He's also tried 'f:...' with no effect. He says that he's restarted the service after each change. Can anyone see his error? Fred Johanson TSM Administrator University of Chicago 773-702-8464
Re: INCLUDE for new management class
OK, the Q INCLEXCL output is what we're interested in. You read the Q INCLEXCL from the top down (opposite of the dsm.opt file). Notice that all the dir excludes (EXCLUDE.DIR) are at the top, since those are always filtered first, regardless of how they are positioned. So starting from the top down, I see this above the INCLUDE for the new management class: Include All *\...\*Server So that's why the new INCLUDE is ineffective. There are a lot of other excluded files below that are probably getting backed up. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development Level 3 Team Lead Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 11/29/2007 03:00:42 PM: There are no 'INCLUDE' lines in the option set other than the initial one. This is the dsm.opt: EXCLUDE.BACKUP *:\microsoft uam volume\...\* EXCLUDE.BACKUP *:\microsoft uam volume\...\*.* EXCLUDE.BACKUP *:\...\EA DATA. SF EXCLUDE.BACKUP *:\IBMBIO.COM EXCLUDE.BACKUP *:\IBMDOS.COM EXCLUDE.BACKUP *:\IO.SYS EXCLUDE.BACKUP *:\...\system32\config\...\* EXCLUDE.BACKUP *:\...\system32\Perflib*.dat EXCLUDE.BACKUP *:\...\system32\dhcp\...\* INCLUDE.BACKUP *:\...\system32\dhcp\backup\...\* EXCLUDE.BACKUP *:\...\system32\dns\...\* INCLUDE.BACKUP *:\...\system32\dns\backup\...\* EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE *:\microsoft uam volume\...\* EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE *:\microsoft uam volume\...\*.* EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE *:\...\EA DATA. SF EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE *:\IBMBIO.COM EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE *:\IBMDOS.COM EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE *:\IO.SYS EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE *:\...\system32\config\...\* EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE *:\...\system32\Perflib*.dat EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE *:\...\system32\dhcp\...\* INCLUDE.ARCHIVE *:\...\system32\dhcp\backup\...\* EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE *:\...\system32\dns\...\* INCLUDE.ARCHIVE *:\...\system32\dns\backup\...\* EXCLUDE.DIR *:\System Volume Information EXCLUDE.DIR *:\...\Temporary Internet Files EXCLUDE.DIR *:\Recycled EXCLUDE.DIR *:\Recycler INCLUDE F:\NSIT\FieldSupport\University Administration\Budget Office\* LONGADMIN INCLUDE F:\NSIT\FieldSupport\University Administration\Budget Office\*.* LONGADMIN And the dsmc q inclexcl: *** FILE INCLUDE/EXCLUDE *** Mode Function Pattern (match from top down) Source File - -- - Excl Directory *\winnt\system32\wins Server Excl Directory *\temp Server Excl Directory *\Recycle* Server Excl Directory *\I386 Server Excl Directory *\Program Files\Network Associates\VirusScan NT Server Excl Directory C:\adsm.sysOperating System Excl Directory *\Recycler dsm.opt Excl Directory *\Recycled dsm.opt Excl Directory *\...\Temporary Internet Files dsm.opt Excl Directory *\System Volume Informationdsm.opt Exclude All *\winnt\system32\DTCLog\MsDTC.log Server Exclude All *\winnt\netlogon.chg Server Exclude All *\winnt\debug\*.* Server Exclude All *\winnt\debug\*Server Exclude All *\winnt\csc\*.*Server Exclude All *\winnt\csc\* Server Exclude All *\winnt\Registration\*.clb Server Exclude All *\hibernate.datServer Exclude All *\hiberfil.sys Server Exclude All *\ffastun*.ff? Server Exclude All *\MSDOS.SYSServer Exclude All *\IO.SYS Server Exclude All *\IBMDOS.COM Server Exclude All *\IBMBIO.COM Server Exclude All *\...\pagefile.sys Server Exclude All *\...\SYSTEM32\CONFIG\...\*Server Exclude All *\...\SYSTEM32\CONFIG\*.* Server Exclude All *\...\Cache\*.*Server Exclude All *\...\Cache\* Server Exclude All *\*.crmlog Server Exclude All *\microsoft uam volume\...\*.* Server Exclude All *\microsoft uam volume\...\* Server Exclude All *\microsoft uam volume\*.* Server Exclude All *\microsoft uam volume\* Server Exclude All *\macintosh volume\...\*.* Server Exclude All *\macintosh volume\...\* Server Exclude All *\macintosh volume\*.* Server Exclude All *\macintosh volume\* Server Exclude All *\Documents and setting\...\index.dat Server Exclude All *\Documents and Settings\...\ntuser.dat.log Server Exclude All
Re: INCLUDE for new management class
Fred, I cannot give you a definitive to answer your question since I do not know your shop, its policies, service level agreement, etc., For example, it could be your shop policy that the INCLUDE *:\...\* is deliberate to prevent users from overriding via dsm.opt settings. Having said that: removing that INCLUDE would enable use of the client-side option (I leave it to you to review the Q INCLEXCL output to confirm there no other interfering settings). Whether you really want to do that, I cannot say. Another alternative is to make a new client option set for this user that does not have the INCLUDE *:\...\*. Or set the node to not use any client option set. Or configure a special node name for backing up just those files. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development Level 3 Team Lead Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 11/29/2007 05:38:30 PM: So how does he get what he wants. The option set is to set a management class for a number of clients. The new management class applies to 1 of the 10. Will setting the OVERRIDE=yes have the desired effect? From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager on behalf of Andrew Raibeck Sent: Thu 11/29/2007 4:21 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] INCLUDE for new management class OK, the Q INCLEXCL output is what we're interested in. You read the Q INCLEXCL from the top down (opposite of the dsm.opt file). Notice that all the dir excludes (EXCLUDE.DIR) are at the top, since those are always filtered first, regardless of how they are positioned. So starting from the top down, I see this above the INCLUDE for the new management class: Include All *\...\*Server So that's why the new INCLUDE is ineffective. There are a lot of other excluded files below that are probably getting backed up. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development Level 3 Team Lead Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www.ibm. com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 11/29/2007 03:00:42 PM: There are no 'INCLUDE' lines in the option set other than the initial one. This is the dsm.opt: EXCLUDE.BACKUP *:\microsoft uam volume\...\* EXCLUDE.BACKUP *:\microsoft uam volume\...\*.* EXCLUDE.BACKUP *:\...\EA DATA. SF EXCLUDE.BACKUP *:\IBMBIO.COM EXCLUDE.BACKUP *:\IBMDOS.COM EXCLUDE.BACKUP *:\IO.SYS EXCLUDE.BACKUP *:\...\system32\config\...\* EXCLUDE.BACKUP *:\...\system32\Perflib*.dat EXCLUDE.BACKUP *:\...\system32\dhcp\...\* INCLUDE.BACKUP *:\...\system32\dhcp\backup\...\* EXCLUDE.BACKUP *:\...\system32\dns\...\* INCLUDE.BACKUP *:\...\system32\dns\backup\...\* EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE *:\microsoft uam volume\...\* EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE *:\microsoft uam volume\...\*.* EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE *:\...\EA DATA. SF EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE *:\IBMBIO.COM EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE *:\IBMDOS.COM EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE *:\IO.SYS EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE *:\...\system32\config\...\* EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE *:\...\system32\Perflib*.dat EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE *:\...\system32\dhcp\...\* INCLUDE.ARCHIVE *:\...\system32\dhcp\backup\...\* EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE *:\...\system32\dns\...\* INCLUDE.ARCHIVE *:\...\system32\dns\backup\...\* EXCLUDE.DIR *:\System Volume Information EXCLUDE.DIR *:\...\Temporary Internet Files EXCLUDE.DIR *:\Recycled EXCLUDE.DIR *:\Recycler INCLUDE F:\NSIT\FieldSupport\University Administration\Budget Office\* LONGADMIN INCLUDE F:\NSIT\FieldSupport\University Administration\Budget Office\*.* LONGADMIN And the dsmc q inclexcl: *** FILE INCLUDE/EXCLUDE *** Mode Function Pattern (match from top down) Source File - -- - Excl Directory *\winnt\system32\wins Server Excl Directory *\temp Server Excl Directory *\Recycle* Server Excl Directory *\I386 Server Excl Directory *\Program Files\Network Associates\VirusScan NT Server Excl Directory C:\adsm.sysOperating System Excl Directory *\Recycler dsm.opt Excl Directory *\Recycled dsm.opt Excl Directory *\...\Temporary Internet Files dsm.opt Excl Directory
Re: INCLUDE for new management class
So how does he get what he wants. The option set is to set a management class for a number of clients. The new management class applies to 1 of the 10. Will setting the OVERRIDE=yes have the desired effect? From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager on behalf of Andrew Raibeck Sent: Thu 11/29/2007 4:21 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] INCLUDE for new management class OK, the Q INCLEXCL output is what we're interested in. You read the Q INCLEXCL from the top down (opposite of the dsm.opt file). Notice that all the dir excludes (EXCLUDE.DIR) are at the top, since those are always filtered first, regardless of how they are positioned. So starting from the top down, I see this above the INCLUDE for the new management class: Include All *\...\*Server So that's why the new INCLUDE is ineffective. There are a lot of other excluded files below that are probably getting backed up. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development Level 3 Team Lead Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 11/29/2007 03:00:42 PM: There are no 'INCLUDE' lines in the option set other than the initial one. This is the dsm.opt: EXCLUDE.BACKUP *:\microsoft uam volume\...\* EXCLUDE.BACKUP *:\microsoft uam volume\...\*.* EXCLUDE.BACKUP *:\...\EA DATA. SF EXCLUDE.BACKUP *:\IBMBIO.COM EXCLUDE.BACKUP *:\IBMDOS.COM EXCLUDE.BACKUP *:\IO.SYS EXCLUDE.BACKUP *:\...\system32\config\...\* EXCLUDE.BACKUP *:\...\system32\Perflib*.dat EXCLUDE.BACKUP *:\...\system32\dhcp\...\* INCLUDE.BACKUP *:\...\system32\dhcp\backup\...\* EXCLUDE.BACKUP *:\...\system32\dns\...\* INCLUDE.BACKUP *:\...\system32\dns\backup\...\* EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE *:\microsoft uam volume\...\* EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE *:\microsoft uam volume\...\*.* EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE *:\...\EA DATA. SF EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE *:\IBMBIO.COM EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE *:\IBMDOS.COM EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE *:\IO.SYS EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE *:\...\system32\config\...\* EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE *:\...\system32\Perflib*.dat EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE *:\...\system32\dhcp\...\* INCLUDE.ARCHIVE *:\...\system32\dhcp\backup\...\* EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE *:\...\system32\dns\...\* INCLUDE.ARCHIVE *:\...\system32\dns\backup\...\* EXCLUDE.DIR *:\System Volume Information EXCLUDE.DIR *:\...\Temporary Internet Files EXCLUDE.DIR *:\Recycled EXCLUDE.DIR *:\Recycler INCLUDE F:\NSIT\FieldSupport\University Administration\Budget Office\* LONGADMIN INCLUDE F:\NSIT\FieldSupport\University Administration\Budget Office\*.* LONGADMIN And the dsmc q inclexcl: *** FILE INCLUDE/EXCLUDE *** Mode Function Pattern (match from top down) Source File - -- - Excl Directory *\winnt\system32\wins Server Excl Directory *\temp Server Excl Directory *\Recycle* Server Excl Directory *\I386 Server Excl Directory *\Program Files\Network Associates\VirusScan NT Server Excl Directory C:\adsm.sysOperating System Excl Directory *\Recycler dsm.opt Excl Directory *\Recycled dsm.opt Excl Directory *\...\Temporary Internet Files dsm.opt Excl Directory *\System Volume Informationdsm.opt Exclude All *\winnt\system32\DTCLog\MsDTC.log Server Exclude All *\winnt\netlogon.chg Server Exclude All *\winnt\debug\*.* Server Exclude All *\winnt\debug\*Server Exclude All *\winnt\csc\*.*Server Exclude All *\winnt\csc\* Server Exclude All *\winnt\Registration\*.clb Server Exclude All *\hibernate.datServer Exclude All *\hiberfil.sys Server Exclude All *\ffastun*.ff? Server Exclude All *\MSDOS.SYSServer Exclude All *\IO.SYS Server Exclude All *\IBMDOS.COM Server Exclude All *\IBMBIO.COM Server Exclude All *\...\pagefile.sys Server Exclude All *\...\SYSTEM32\CONFIG\...\*Server Exclude All *\...\SYSTEM32\CONFIG\*.* Server Exclude All *\...\Cache\*.*Server Exclude All *\...\Cache\* Server Exclude All *\*.crmlog Server Exclude All *\microsoft uam volume\...\*.* Server Exclude All *\microsoft uam volume\...\* Server Exclude All *\microsoft uam volume\*.* Server Exclude All
Re: INCLUDE for new management class
Hi Fred, FORCE has no effect on INCLEXCL, so that's a nonstarter. Try this: remove the INCLUDE statement from the dsm.opt file and instead add it to the client option set on the server. But instead of using the drive letter, use the UNC name, e.g.: define clientopt optsetname inclexcl 'include \\machname\f$\nsit\fieldsupport\university administration\budget office\* longadmin' where machname is the machine name for this client. Make sure to insert it in the sequence so it tested before include *:\...\*. Note that you don't need the second include with the *.* spec, as that is redundant. The idea is that other clients will pick up this include as well, but it will have no effect due the differing UNC names. See if that does the trick. On the machine in question, this include statement will show up as F: in the Q INCLEXCL output; but on other machines, you'll see it as the UNC name, so it should have no effect on those machines. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development Level 3 Team Lead Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 11/29/2007 07:25:16 PM: Thanks Andy, I'll try to make this brief. I had thought of making a special cloptset for this client, but the machine admin figures that once this special exception becomes known, the other 15 to 20 users of the box will want their own exceptions. Being a nice guy, he figures I've got better things to do that creating special client options in the general cloptset. The way of avoiding this, I guess, is redefining the initial INCLUDE (include ?:* nondefault-mgmtc) with FORCE=NO, if that does mean that all files, directories, filespaces, etc., not covered by a separate include line will be bound to the initial include. I hope that's as clear as it is brief. From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager on behalf of Andrew Raibeck Sent: Thu 11/29/2007 6:53 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] INCLUDE for new management class Fred, I cannot give you a definitive to answer your question since I do not know your shop, its policies, service level agreement, etc., For example, it could be your shop policy that the INCLUDE *:\...\* is deliberate to prevent users from overriding via dsm.opt settings. Having said that: removing that INCLUDE would enable use of the client-side option (I leave it to you to review the Q INCLEXCL output to confirm there no other interfering settings). Whether you really want to do that, I cannot say. Another alternative is to make a new client option set for this user that does not have the INCLUDE *:\...\*. Or set the node to not use any client option set. Or configure a special node name for backing up just those files. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development Level 3 Team Lead Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www.ibm. com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 11/29/2007 05:38:30 PM: So how does he get what he wants. The option set is to set a management class for a number of clients. The new management class applies to 1 of the 10. Will setting the OVERRIDE=yes have the desired effect? From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager on behalf of Andrew Raibeck Sent: Thu 11/29/2007 4:21 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] INCLUDE for new management class OK, the Q INCLEXCL output is what we're interested in. You read the Q INCLEXCL from the top down (opposite of the dsm.opt file). Notice that all the dir excludes (EXCLUDE.DIR) are at the top, since those are always filtered first, regardless of how they are positioned. So starting from the top down, I see this above the INCLUDE for the new management class: Include All *\...\*Server So that's why the new INCLUDE is ineffective. There are a lot of other excluded files below that are probably getting backed up. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development Level 3 Team Lead Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page:
