Re: Node will not delete?!?
Hi Joni, Actually if you run HELP ANR2339E (or just HELP 2339), you'll see that this message is indeed specific to backup sets. In general, when you get an error message that you don't understand, using the HELP is a good idea. :-) OK... just to reset... What does the output of these commands show (copy & paste, please): - QUERY FILESPACE - QUERY BACKUPSET - REMOVE NODE In answer to your other question: if you review the reference info for DELETE VOLHISTORY (HELP DELETE VOLHISTORY), you'll see that it is not recommended to use that command to delete backup sets. Rather, use DELETE BACKUPSET. Best regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. "Good enough" is the enemy of excellence. "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" wrote on 2005-07-20 12:24:28: > Hi Andy, > > I deleted the backupsets. Thanks for the reminder!!! It still won't allow > me to delete the node from TSM and I cannot think of anything else that > could exist for the server. Does expiration have to run first? I wouldn't > think so, but I thought that I would ask. Thanks again! > > > Joni Moyer > Highmark > Storage Systems > Work:(717)302-6603 > Fax:(717)302-5974 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > "Andrew Raibeck" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > OM> To > Sent by: "ADSM: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > Dist Stor cc > Manager" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject > .EDU> Re: Node will not delete?!? > > > 07/20/2005 01:52 > PM > > > Please respond to > "ADSM: Dist Stor > Manager" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >.EDU> > > > > > > > Check if there are any remaining backup sets. > > Regards, > > Andy > > Andy Raibeck > IBM Software Group > Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development > Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. > The command line is your friend. > "Good enough" is the enemy of excellence. > > "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" wrote on 2005-07-20 > 10:40:00: > > > Hello Everyone, > > > > I deleted all of the data for an AIX tsm client and I query the > occupancy > > and nothing is there. > > > > Operation Results > > > > > > > > > > > > ANR2034E QUERY OCCUPANCY: No match found using this criteria. > > > > > > > > I tried to remove the node and I'm still getting this message. > > > > Operation Results > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ANR2339E REMOVE NODE: Object sets still exist for node PGSP022. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Failed. > > > > > > > > > > Am I doing something wrong? Thank you in advance for any suggestions. > > > > > > Joni Moyer > > Highmark > > Storage Systems > > Work:(717)302-6603 > > Fax:(717)302-5974 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: Node will not delete?!?
Hi Andy, I deleted the backupsets. Thanks for the reminder!!! It still won't allow me to delete the node from TSM and I cannot think of anything else that could exist for the server. Does expiration have to run first? I wouldn't think so, but I thought that I would ask. Thanks again! Joni Moyer Highmark Storage Systems Work:(717)302-6603 Fax:(717)302-5974 [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Andrew Raibeck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] OM>To Sent by: "ADSM: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Dist Stor cc Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject .EDU> Re: Node will not delete?!? 07/20/2005 01:52 PM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] .EDU> Check if there are any remaining backup sets. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. "Good enough" is the enemy of excellence. "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" wrote on 2005-07-20 10:40:00: > Hello Everyone, > > I deleted all of the data for an AIX tsm client and I query the occupancy > and nothing is there. > > Operation Results > > > > > > ANR2034E QUERY OCCUPANCY: No match found using this criteria. > > > > I tried to remove the node and I'm still getting this message. > > Operation Results > > > > > > > ANR2339E REMOVE NODE: Object sets still exist for node PGSP022. > > > > > > > Failed. > > > > > Am I doing something wrong? Thank you in advance for any suggestions. > > > Joni Moyer > Highmark > Storage Systems > Work:(717)302-6603 > Fax:(717)302-5974 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Re: Node will not delete?!?
Check if there are any remaining backup sets. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. "Good enough" is the enemy of excellence. "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" wrote on 2005-07-20 10:40:00: > Hello Everyone, > > I deleted all of the data for an AIX tsm client and I query the occupancy > and nothing is there. > > Operation Results > > > > > > ANR2034E QUERY OCCUPANCY: No match found using this criteria. > > > > I tried to remove the node and I'm still getting this message. > > Operation Results > > > > > > > ANR2339E REMOVE NODE: Object sets still exist for node PGSP022. > > > > > > > Failed. > > > > > Am I doing something wrong? Thank you in advance for any suggestions. > > > Joni Moyer > Highmark > Storage Systems > Work:(717)302-6603 > Fax:(717)302-5974 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Re: Node will not delete?!?
Hi Ben, I did the q fi pgsp022 and it showed that there are no remaining filespaces for this server. I'm not sure if there is anything else that can be done at this point. Thanks! TSM Server 5.2.4.0 AIX 5.2 Operation Results ANR2034E QUERY FILESPACE: No match found using this criteria. Joni Moyer Highmark Storage Systems Work:(717)302-6603 Fax:(717)302-5974 [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Ben Bullock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] COM> To Sent by: "ADSM: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Dist Stor cc Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject .EDU> Re: Node will not delete?!? 07/20/2005 01:42 PM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] .EDU> Do a "q file" as it will show the filespaces that TSM knows about, but has not necessarily backed up. Once you delete the remaining filespaces, you can remove the node. Ben -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joni Moyer Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 11:40 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Node will not delete?!? Hello Everyone, I deleted all of the data for an AIX tsm client and I query the occupancy and nothing is there. Operation Results ANR2034E QUERY OCCUPANCY: No match found using this criteria. I tried to remove the node and I'm still getting this message. Operation Results ANR2339E REMOVE NODE: Object sets still exist for node PGSP022. Failed. Am I doing something wrong? Thank you in advance for any suggestions. Joni Moyer Highmark Storage Systems Work:(717)302-6603 Fax:(717)302-5974 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Node will not delete?!?
you can do a 'del file *' you may have archived files. >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/20/2005 1:42:27 PM >>> Do a "q file" as it will show the filespaces that TSM knows about, but has not necessarily backed up. Once you delete the remaining filespaces, you can remove the node. Ben -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joni Moyer Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 11:40 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Node will not delete?!? Hello Everyone, I deleted all of the data for an AIX tsm client and I query the occupancy and nothing is there. Operation Results ANR2034E QUERY OCCUPANCY: No match found using this criteria. I tried to remove the node and I'm still getting this message. Operation Results ANR2339E REMOVE NODE: Object sets still exist for node PGSP022. Failed. Am I doing something wrong? Thank you in advance for any suggestions. Joni Moyer Highmark Storage Systems Work:(717)302-6603 Fax:(717)302-5974 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Node will not delete?!?
Do a "q file" as it will show the filespaces that TSM knows about, but has not necessarily backed up. Once you delete the remaining filespaces, you can remove the node. Ben -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joni Moyer Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 11:40 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Node will not delete?!? Hello Everyone, I deleted all of the data for an AIX tsm client and I query the occupancy and nothing is there. Operation Results ANR2034E QUERY OCCUPANCY: No match found using this criteria. I tried to remove the node and I'm still getting this message. Operation Results ANR2339E REMOVE NODE: Object sets still exist for node PGSP022. Failed. Am I doing something wrong? Thank you in advance for any suggestions. Joni Moyer Highmark Storage Systems Work:(717)302-6603 Fax:(717)302-5974 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Node will not delete
On Sep 29, 2004, at 1:36 PM, Joni Moyer wrote: Hi! That APAR is exactly what is occurring. I have run the select statement and there are no volumes associated with the data, but it will not delete the filespace. I can't go to the client because the client server doesn't exist any longer. I was doing maintenance deletions on old decomissioned servers, so I'm out of luck on that one. ... Joni - You can use -VIRTUALNodename=NODE13 to pose as the late node. Richard Sims
Re: Node will not delete
Hi! That APAR is exactly what is occurring. I have run the select statement and there are no volumes associated with the data, but it will not delete the filespace. I can't go to the client because the client server doesn't exist any longer. I was doing maintenance deletions on old decomissioned servers, so I'm out of luck on that one. I have put in a request to upgrade our server from 5.1.8.3 to 5.2.4, so I am hoping that this will resolve the issue. Thank you for your help! Joni Moyer Highmark Storage Systems Work:(717)302-6603 Fax:(717)302-5974 [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Richard Sims" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: "ADSM:To Dist Stor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Manager" cc <[EMAIL PROTECTED] .EDU> Subject Re: Node will not delete 09/29/2004 01:11 PM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] .EDU> Interesting problem. APAR IC39957 may pertain. Life with defects... Some things I would try: - Attempt 'dsmc del fi' from the client, and choose it by number, and see if that makes it go away. - Do 'SELECT * FROM VOLUMEUSAGE WHERE NODE_NAME='NODE13' and if that reveals any volumes, try deleting those first. In the future, do not name nodes with '13' in the name. ;-) Richard Sims http://people.bu.edu/rbs On Sep 29, 2004, at 12:51 PM, Joni Moyer wrote: > Hi all! > > I had actually already ran the delete filespace command and it just > will > not delete that remaining filespace /usr. I query occupancy again and > there is still no data and I have issued the delete filespace command > numerous times without any luck. It just will not delete the > filespace. I > have looked at the logs and there is no ending/error message for the > deletion of the filespace. It really just appears as if it > disappeared, > which is very bizarre. Not quite sure why this is ocurring or how to > get > rid of it... Thanks!
Re: Node will not delete
Joni, I had a similar problem on an earlier level of 5.1. First thing to try is an audit of the stgpool, either "aud vol" if on tape, or "dsmserv audit diskstg" (check the manual for correct spelling) if on disk. If you have to do it on a disk pool, drain it first, and the audit will fly. If that doesn't work, support can step you thru the deletion commands for the DB. At 12:51 PM 9/29/2004 -0400, you wrote: Hi all! I had actually already ran the delete filespace command and it just will not delete that remaining filespace /usr. I query occupancy again and there is still no data and I have issued the delete filespace command numerous times without any luck. It just will not delete the filespace. I have looked at the logs and there is no ending/error message for the deletion of the filespace. It really just appears as if it disappeared, which is very bizarre. Not quite sure why this is ocurring or how to get rid of it... Thanks! Joni Moyer Highmark Storage Systems Work:(717)302-6603 Fax:(717)302-5974 [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Stapleton, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ERBEE.COM> To Sent by: "ADSM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dist Stor cc Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject .EDU> Re: Node will not delete 09/29/2004 12:40 PM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] .EDU> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joni Moyer >q occ node13 >Results: ANR2034E QUERY OCCUPANCY: No match found using this criteria. > >q filespace node13 >Results: >Node Name Filespace FSID Platform Filespace Is CapacityPct >Name Type Filespace (MB) >Util >Unicode? >NODE13 /usr 2 AIX JFS No984.0 >93.7 > >When I tried to delete the node I received the following message: > > Operation Results >ANR2152E REMOVE NODE: Inventory references still exist for node NODE13. You have to remove the filespace as well. del filesp node13 2 namet=fsid Then remove the node. -- Mark Stapleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Berbee Information Networks Office 262.521.5627 Fred Johanson ITSM Administrator University of Chicago 773-702-8464
Re: Node will not delete
Interesting problem. APAR IC39957 may pertain. Life with defects... Some things I would try: - Attempt 'dsmc del fi' from the client, and choose it by number, and see if that makes it go away. - Do 'SELECT * FROM VOLUMEUSAGE WHERE NODE_NAME='NODE13' and if that reveals any volumes, try deleting those first. In the future, do not name nodes with '13' in the name. ;-) Richard Sims http://people.bu.edu/rbs On Sep 29, 2004, at 12:51 PM, Joni Moyer wrote: Hi all! I had actually already ran the delete filespace command and it just will not delete that remaining filespace /usr. I query occupancy again and there is still no data and I have issued the delete filespace command numerous times without any luck. It just will not delete the filespace. I have looked at the logs and there is no ending/error message for the deletion of the filespace. It really just appears as if it disappeared, which is very bizarre. Not quite sure why this is ocurring or how to get rid of it... Thanks!
Re: Node will not delete
On Sep 29, 2004, at 12:23 PM, Joni Moyer wrote: Hello all! I am still locked out of adsm.org due to our company's smart filter, ... How about the alternate sites: www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?adsm-l www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ?
Re: Node will not delete
Hi all! I had actually already ran the delete filespace command and it just will not delete that remaining filespace /usr. I query occupancy again and there is still no data and I have issued the delete filespace command numerous times without any luck. It just will not delete the filespace. I have looked at the logs and there is no ending/error message for the deletion of the filespace. It really just appears as if it disappeared, which is very bizarre. Not quite sure why this is ocurring or how to get rid of it... Thanks! Joni Moyer Highmark Storage Systems Work:(717)302-6603 Fax:(717)302-5974 [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Stapleton, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ERBEE.COM> To Sent by: "ADSM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dist Stor cc Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject .EDU> Re: Node will not delete 09/29/2004 12:40 PM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] .EDU> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joni Moyer >q occ node13 >Results: ANR2034E QUERY OCCUPANCY: No match found using this criteria. > >q filespace node13 >Results: >Node Name Filespace FSID Platform Filespace Is CapacityPct >Name Type Filespace (MB) >Util >Unicode? >NODE13 /usr 2 AIX JFS No984.0 >93.7 > >When I tried to delete the node I received the following message: > > Operation Results >ANR2152E REMOVE NODE: Inventory references still exist for node NODE13. You have to remove the filespace as well. del filesp node13 2 namet=fsid Then remove the node. -- Mark Stapleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Berbee Information Networks Office 262.521.5627
Re: Node will not delete
Hi Joni, I had the same problem with a ghost filespace. Do what Guillaume suggests and you should be OK. Sometimes the filespace does not appear in the listing, but a del fi nodename * did the trick for me. Rich -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Guillaume Gilbert Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 12:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Node will not delete Try del fi nodename * Sometimes there is a ghost filespace that hangs around. Guillaume Gilbert IT Specialist - TSM Infrastructure Services Delivery IBM Global Services Tel.: (514) 964-2795 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Joni Moyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2004-09-29 12:23 Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" To [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc Subject Node will not delete Hello all! I am still locked out of adsm.org due to our company's smart filter, so I have to ask this question again... I deleted all filespace information for a node, but it will not delete the node due to the fact that it still thinks data is associated with the node. Any suggestions? Thank you in advance! Joni Moyer Highmark Storage Systems Work:(717)302-6603 Fax:(717)302-5974 [EMAIL PROTECTED] This e-mail may be privileged and/or confidential, and the sender does not waive any related rights and obligations. Any distribution, use or copying of this e-mail or the information it contains by other than an intended recipient is unauthorized. If you received this e-mail in error, please advise me (by return e-mail or otherwise) immediately. Ce courriel est confidentiel et prot+AOk-g+AOk-. L'exp+AOk-diteur ne renonce pas aux droits et obligations qui s'y rapportent. Toute diffusion, utilisation ou copie de ce message ou des renseignements qu'il contient par une personne autre que le (les) destinataire(s) d+AOk-sign+AOk-(s) est interdite. Si vous recevez ce courriel par erreur, veuillez m'en aviser imm+AOk-diatement, par retour de courriel ou par un autre moyen.
Re: Node will not delete
Try del fi nodename * Sometimes there is a ghost filespace that hangs around. Guillaume Gilbert IT Specialist - TSM Infrastructure Services Delivery IBM Global Services Tel.: (514) 964-2795 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Joni Moyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2004-09-29 12:23 Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" To [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc Subject Node will not delete Hello all! I am still locked out of adsm.org due to our company's smart filter, so I have to ask this question again... I deleted all filespace information for a node, but it will not delete the node due to the fact that it still thinks data is associated with the node. Any suggestions? Thank you in advance! Joni Moyer Highmark Storage Systems Work:(717)302-6603 Fax:(717)302-5974 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Node will not delete
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joni Moyer >q occ node13 >Results: ANR2034E QUERY OCCUPANCY: No match found using this criteria. > >q filespace node13 >Results: >Node Name Filespace FSID Platform Filespace Is CapacityPct >Name Type Filespace (MB) >Util >Unicode? >NODE13 /usr 2 AIX JFS No984.0 >93.7 > >When I tried to delete the node I received the following message: > > Operation Results >ANR2152E REMOVE NODE: Inventory references still exist for node NODE13. You have to remove the filespace as well. del filesp node13 2 namet=fsid Then remove the node. -- Mark Stapleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Berbee Information Networks Office 262.521.5627
Re: Node will not delete
There is likely a filespace the node knows about but has not backed up, (hence the no occupancy). Run a "delete file node13 *" and then you should be able to delete the node. If not, it's gonna take IBM assistance. Ben -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joni Moyer Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 10:33 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Node will not delete Hi! The name of the server is node13. q occ node13 Results: ANR2034E QUERY OCCUPANCY: No match found using this criteria. q filespace node13 Results: Node Name Filespace FSID Platform FilespaceIs Capacity Pct Name Type Filespace (MB) Util Unicode? --- --- - - - NODE13 /usr 2 AIX JFS No984.0 93.7 When I tried to delete the node I received the following message: Operation Results ANR2152E REMOVE NODE: Inventory references still exist for node NODE13. I tried to remove the node through the GUI, but it didn't work... I couldn't think of any other info. that might be needed. This is on a TSM 5.1.8.3 server on the mainframe and the client is an AIX server. Thanks again! Joni Moyer Highmark Storage Systems Work:(717)302-6603 Fax:(717)302-5974 [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Stapleton, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ERBEE.COM> To Sent by: "ADSM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dist Stor cc Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject .EDU> Re: Node will not delete 09/29/2004 12:25 PM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] .EDU> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joni Moyer >I am still locked out of adsm.org due to our company's smart filter, so >I have to ask this question again... I deleted all filespace >information for a node, but it will not delete the node due to the fact >that it still thinks data is associated with the node. Any >suggestions? Thank you in advance! Details please. Commands run, error messages that result, and anything else that might be relevant. -- Mark Stapleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Berbee Information Networks Office 262.521.5627
Re: Node will not delete
Hi! The name of the server is node13. q occ node13 Results: ANR2034E QUERY OCCUPANCY: No match found using this criteria. q filespace node13 Results: Node Name Filespace FSID Platform FilespaceIs Capacity Pct Name Type Filespace (MB) Util Unicode? --- --- - - - NODE13 /usr 2 AIX JFS No984.0 93.7 When I tried to delete the node I received the following message: Operation Results ANR2152E REMOVE NODE: Inventory references still exist for node NODE13. I tried to remove the node through the GUI, but it didn't work... I couldn't think of any other info. that might be needed. This is on a TSM 5.1.8.3 server on the mainframe and the client is an AIX server. Thanks again! Joni Moyer Highmark Storage Systems Work:(717)302-6603 Fax:(717)302-5974 [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Stapleton, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ERBEE.COM> To Sent by: "ADSM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dist Stor cc Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject .EDU> Re: Node will not delete 09/29/2004 12:25 PM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] .EDU> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joni Moyer >I am still locked out of adsm.org due to our company's smart >filter, so I have to ask this question again... I deleted all >filespace information for a node, but it will not delete the >node due to the fact that it still thinks data is associated >with the node. Any suggestions? Thank you in advance! Details please. Commands run, error messages that result, and anything else that might be relevant. -- Mark Stapleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Berbee Information Networks Office 262.521.5627
Re: Node will not delete
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joni Moyer >I am still locked out of adsm.org due to our company's smart >filter, so I have to ask this question again... I deleted all >filespace information for a node, but it will not delete the >node due to the fact that it still thinks data is associated >with the node. Any suggestions? Thank you in advance! Details please. Commands run, error messages that result, and anything else that might be relevant. -- Mark Stapleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Berbee Information Networks Office 262.521.5627